WWI Digest 1597 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: NAM Report by KarrArt@aol.com 2) Re: greetings/toko strutters by KarrArt@aol.com 3) Re: Jenny by "Aidrian Bridgeman-sutton" 4) Re: Wicker was: Re: Favorite Part by "Aidrian Bridgeman-sutton" 5) Re: NAM Report by "David Vosburgh" 6) Louvres by "Aidrian Bridgeman-sutton" 7) Re: Back Again by Mike Fletcher 8) Re: NAM Report by Mike Fletcher 9) The Third Liberty Loan Poster by Mike Fletcher 10) Re: Breguet 14 by "Sandy Adam" 11) Re: Favorite Part by Mike Fletcher 12) Re:Favorite Part and Boxkite Q by "Charles and Linda Duckworth" 13) Re: Favorite Part by "Bob Pearson" 14) Re: DONE Oh-Thingie by Dennis Ugulano 15) Re: Favorite Part by Dennis Ugulano 16) Re: greetings/toko strutters by Dennis Ugulano 17) Re: greetings/toko strutters by Pedro e Francisca Soares 18) Re: Favorite Part by Matthew E Bittner 19) Re: greetings/toko strutters by Matthew E Bittner 20) Re: Favorite Part by Pedro e Francisca Soares 21) Re: greetings/toko strutters by Matthew E Bittner 22) Jenny by BEN8800@aol.com 23) Re: Favorite Part by Suvoroff@aol.com 24) Re: The Third Liberty Loan Poster by Mike Fletcher 25) Re: Favorite Part by Ernest Thomas 26) Welcome and Help w/a Prop by lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) 27) Re: Favorite Part by smperry@mindspring.com 28) Re: Welcome and Help w/a Prop by Ernest Thomas 29) I'm Back - I think by BStett3770@aol.com 30) Re: The Master Scratch Builders by "Robert Johnson" 31) Re: Ilya (Was:DONE Oh-Thingie) by "Robert Johnson" 32) Re: Favorite Part by "Robert Johnson" 33) Re: Favorite Part by "DAVID BURKE" 34) Re: Welcome and Help w/a Prop by "DAVID BURKE" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 15:01:16 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: NAM Report Message-ID: <8bf79bf1.2479aa7c@aol.com> In a message dated 5/22/99 7:50:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bigglesrfc@globalserve.net writes: << The Sop.Tripe, Pup and SPAD VII have been relegated to the rear storage area where they may still be viewed with some difficulty. The Tripe and Pup are wingless, >> IIRC, Carl Swanson was responsible for that Tripe, as well as the Nieuport 17 also in the museum. Sadly, according to the latest WW I Aero, he died Feb21 at age 78. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 15:01:23 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: greetings/toko strutters Message-ID: In a message dated 5/23/99 4:10:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lensmith@clara.net writes: << Greetings! This is newmember Len Smith speaking to you, in English, from London,England. >> Greetings! This is not-so-oldtimer (one year, nine month sentence served so far)Robert Karr writing from not-so-sunny Southern California. Howdy and welcome. I shall look at your work a bit later today after the usual Sunday afternoon dogfight for on-line time arond this house! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 20:14:37 +0100 From: "Aidrian Bridgeman-sutton" To: Subject: Re: Jenny Message-ID: <005201bea550$81c83160$1c84fad4@pc0973> Ben Nice to see you don't spend all your life bathing in whale oil. ( For those who've not had the pleasure, Mr Lankford designs some of the best wooden ship kits in the business- if his planes are as good I might end up needing to find somewhere to put a very large scale Jenny) I guess there will be an answer to this somewhere, but one thing I have found useful when looking for obscure constructional details is to take a look at some of the magazines that specialise in warbirds and classic aviation. many of these have small but useful pics of planes under restoration, and I have a vague feeling "Classic Wings" (or a similar title???) had a feature on a restored Jenny about three years ago. Owing to the fact that my bumf is in NZ, i can't look it up right now, but you might see if the local library has it. Aidrian -----Original Message----- From: BEN8800@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: 23 May 1999 19:35 Subject: Re: Jenny >In a message dated 5/23/99 12:34:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: > ><< Not positive, but iirc, the ailerons might be made from from tube. > If the listee who has my Jenny pics will come forward, I'm sure he could > tell you. I'm almost positive I have a shot of the uncovered aileron in > that stack. >> > >I'm sure tha ailerons have wooden ribs. Hope you can find the photo. > >As to tubing, the rudder is tubing and leading edge of the horizontal stab >and trailing edge of the elevator. Some rudders were all wood but I am going >with a tube type so I can make it a britannia casting. > >Ben > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 20:24:27 +0100 From: "Aidrian Bridgeman-sutton" To: Subject: Re: Wicker was: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: <005901bea551$e081f5a0$1c84fad4@pc0973> snip >I also like doing wicker seats. (I also like it better when I'm done). My >methods of madness are at the following URL > http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/seat.htm > >What method do you use Aidrian? > >sp Nothing as concincing as your method I fear. The same general approach to a brass frame, but soldered, and using fine woven brass mesh from the model railway shop for the wicker. Solder it up . Cut the mesh very slightly oversize, and solder it to the frame with solder paint rather than stick solder, so that you don't plug up the holes in the mesh. Trim with old scissors and a knackered needle file and paint it brown, with a drybrushing of slightly lighter brown. It's representational rather than accurate and sort of looks OK if you squint- a lot beter than a solid seat anyway. Aidrian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 16:08:37 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: NAM Report Message-ID: <001901bea558$0baf5e60$71d690d0@Pvosburg> -----Original Message----- From: Brad Gossen Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 12:06 PM Subject: Re: NAM Report Brad wrote: <> >I didn't get cockpit shots of the N.12 as the Museum Police were hanging about >giving me >the hairy eyeball. Couldn't you have claimed you were investigating something in an official capacity? Should've worn your uniform. <> >I'm looking forward to Rhinebeck. Anyone else on the list >game for the pilgrimage on June 12th and 13th? I'll be there, and I believe Cam is planning on going too. Regards, DV ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 21:28:53 +0100 From: "Aidrian Bridgeman-sutton" To: Subject: Louvres Message-ID: <002c01bea55b$2f9d5680$4385fad4@pc0973> I've not tried it with styrene, but if that's the Berntsen article it might well work on plastic, since the design is intended to stop the material deforming except where it's supposed to. It might be possible to build a heated version with an element from a soldering iron built into the die so the plastic forms and doesn't tear. Temp control could be fun - a light dimmer in the element circuit would probably do the trick. DON'T try it on wood though.... Aidrian > > I've got that article somewhere, but working with metal always leaves me >scarred and broken! >Robert K. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:04:35 -0700 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Back Again Message-ID: <37486D63.C3200DAC@mars.ark.com> Styrofoam packing boxes, with strips of soft tissue paper pinned into place in strategic places works well. Some rigging may have to be redone but it is minor compared to the options. I transported a Sopwith Pup (my first ww1 kit) and Fokker Triplane (the second) from Germany to the west coast of Canada (2 separate moves) in one piece. Of course a now ex-GF dropped a TV on the Pup but that was after it left its box. (fortunately her aim was poor - it only lost its prop and undercarriage) Aidrian Bridgeman-sutton wrote: > Now, all my models are still in New Zealand, and a little advice is sought > on the best way of packing them up so that the removal people don't smash > them utterly. -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:36:30 -0700 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: NAM Report Message-ID: <374874DE.8231ABF8@mars.ark.com> The AEG's wheels are (or were) wood which replaced the CF-100 wheels. NAM gets tyres by either shaving motorbike tyres, or making a special order to a company that makes short run vintage style tyres, but the AEG was a problem because of the size. The Nieuport 12 is actually in the original French colours that it carried when it was donated to Canada in late 1916. The reference to RNAS is rather confused but the first Canadian airial victory was from a Nieuport 10 which is similar enough that it is difficult for most folks to tell them apart. If you are building a kit of the 12, the ailerons should have a pronounced washout if it is not a Beardmore machine, and unfortunately this example was modified at one point into a pseudo Beardmore Nieuport and so still lacks the washout. The D.VII restoration was suspended indefinitely when I was there 5 years ago because of problems encountered having iirc to do with the identity and originality of the aircraft. It was sitting uncovered in the back on the storage floor then. I assume the Sopwith 2F1 was traded for the Nieuport 17 that is now over at the war museum. -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:48:18 -0700 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, wwi-l@raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: The Third Liberty Loan Poster Message-ID: <374877A2.411C4EC1@mars.ark.com> I am looking for a scan of this poster (it was pasted to the wings of Rickenbackers Nieuport 28) - can anyone help? -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 21:00:12 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Breguet 14 Message-ID: <006801bea556$dfbf9dc0$2ce8b094@sandyada> > I'd prefer a Salmson myself - > Same here- I love that airplane and I'd scratchbuild, but more louvres than >a Breguet . A kit would be quite fine yes indeed! Try the Wings 48 vac - I got one from Aviation USK - haven't built it yet but it looks excellent. Also includes a fully comprehensive decal sheet for just about every US Salmson flown! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:54:25 -0700 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: <37487911.9C88BA09@mars.ark.com> Filling/Sanding (especially if it involves major changes to the shape), Rigging (parrallel wires are a reasonable challenge) and decaling. I always hated painting - I guess I should do more German stuff. -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 17:05:47 -0500 From: "Charles and Linda Duckworth" To: Subject: Re:Favorite Part and Boxkite Q Message-ID: <00e001bea568$7bca7440$b95ddfd1@q1p5x0> Being a former art major (minor in European History) in college (24 years ago), my favorite part of the project is still the research in coming up with a scheme that compliments the aircraft design. On early a/c (1914-16) I like to use CDL even through the type may have been doped in PC10 in later years. I'll look through 5-10 books and mark particular pages on various color schemes and individual markings. Then painting and decalling the aircraft to match the research. I don't believe I've built over two or three kits using only the decals provided in the original kit. btw, another reason to use Future I found with my current project is it keeps the oils in your fingers from rubbing of the paint of the edges of your model when building it. Has anyone seen any shots of a Bristol Boxkite with Union Jack or red/white markings on the wings, several were in RNAS early in the war and am curious to know if they received anything other than the CDL finish and The Bristol Co. stencilling on the tail. The RNAS serial number book has one shot of a Boxkite with no markings at a airfield around 1914. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 15:17:40 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: <199905232227.PAA15678@mail.rapidnet.net> My lawyer writes . ... > Anyway, it struck me that I sorta hate all the filling and sanding, >and really like figuring out the rigging (yes, I am a masochist) and >painting and yes, decalling. What is it the rest of you like best about >your projects. (Matt, the answer: "1/72 Nieuports" isn't accepted!) >Mike Muth As I have around 20 kits in various stages of building (most awaiting painting) I would have to say I like all aspects of building. For some reason I hate painting them of late (I know, I know .... strange for an artist to say). I have more fun 'painting' them on the computer now. Regards, Bob Pearson Visit my WW1 Aviation page http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1 Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:24:16 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: DONE Oh-Thingie Message-ID: <199905231824_MC2-76C5-7994@compuserve.com> sp, >> I need a string fix :-) I' guess the Ilya will provide that. << I can guarantee that will happen with the Ilya. Be careful not to OD. Going from one string to all of these strings may overload the circuits. Be careful:-) Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 3/26/99 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:24:18 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: <199905231824_MC2-76C5-7995@compuserve.com> Mike, My favorite is the rigging even though it can be un-nerving at times. I love running all of the threads at one time and then trying to figure out if they are in the right place, that none cross over each other and that I can glue that hole because no other wire goes there. My least favorite is putty and sanding. I has to be done but if I falter, its in that department. And during construction I fly what ever part I'm working on. (Doesn't everyone?) I have to see what it will look like in flight. How else can I build it correctly if I don't fly it. And all of the parts have the same sound. I mean, they go on the same airplane. I guess there was too much Jonathan Winters and Bill Crosby in my formative years. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 3/26/99 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:24:19 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: greetings/toko strutters Message-ID: <199905231824_MC2-76C5-7997@compuserve.com> Robert, >> Robert Karr writing from not-so-sunny Southern California. Howdy and welcome. I shall look at your work a bit later today after the usual Sunday afternoon dogfight for on-line time around this house! << Sounds familiar here. I get my time before the crew wakes up. Right now Tech Support is fixing lunch so I'm free on the computer. But, in about a half hour, watch out, the computer is her's. Then Star Trek comes on and I'm free again on the computer. It was sunny this morning. Now there is a little drizzle. That not fair to a sun worshiper. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 3/26/99 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 00:05:12 +0100 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: greetings/toko strutters Message-ID: <374889A7.6C04FD33@mail.telepac.pt> Len Smith wrote: > Greetings! This is newmember Len Smith speaking to you, in English, from > London,England. > > Over the last six years I have built 40 plus models (only another 60 plus to > go), all 1/72 (is there another scale?) , .. Welcome from Portugal Len, Absolutely wonderful stuff on your site, and in the correct scale also. Hey Matt, another one for our ranks.... Um abraço Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:09:30 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: <19990523.181957.-834605.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 23 May 1999 12:08:02 -0400 (EDT) bucky@ptdprolog.net writes: > Maybe a new thead...I was reading the new FSM and there was a > nice > article about putting on decals. Anyway, the author made the bold > statement that they could give him made and painted models, he just > loved decalling. > Anyway, it struck me that I sorta hate all the filling and > sanding, > and really like figuring out the rigging (yes, I am a masochist) and > painting and yes, decalling. What is it the rest of you like best > about > your projects. (Matt, the answer: "1/72 Nieuports" isn't accepted!) 1/72nd Nie...ah, heck. You beat me to it. ;-) To be honest, besides working in/on the cockpit, my next favorite part is destroying the box after the model is on the shelf! :-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 17:57:30 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: greetings/toko strutters Message-ID: <19990523.181957.-834605.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 23 May 1999 07:08:47 -0400 (EDT) Len Smith writes: > Greetings! This is newmember Len Smith speaking to you, in English, > from > London,England. Welcome! > Over the last six years I have built 40 plus models (only another 60 > plus to > go), all 1/72 (is there another scale?) , all WW1 or earlier, all > Allied (no > germaniacs for me), mostly vacforms and mostly poorly. Photographs > of some of > the less objectionable are at http://home.clara.net/lensmith. No, there is no other scale. That "other one" is a figment in member's imaginations. ;-) Excellent models, BTW! Awesome work. > WARNING! Toko strutters have one major error and two minor. The > main trouble > is that the undercarriage strut are approximately 1/4" too long, > giving the poor > beast a very nose in the air stance. Check the length against the > Datafile > drawing or the Flashback version which is correct. The other errors > are no > dashboard ( but if you cannot scratch one what are you doing here?), > and the > solid rear end to the fuselage. The Strutters, like many Sopwiths, > had a naked > rear end, very sexy. However, due to the way Toko have set out the > tailplan and > rudder this is also very easy to correct. Toko also left off the "sweep-up" in front of the horizontal tail. The most difficult part to add in, BTW. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 00:07:57 +0100 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: <37488A4D.2ABB3D3B@mail.telepac.pt> bucky@ptdprolog.net wrote: > .What is it the rest of you like best about > your projects. . Finishing one and putting it on the shelf. It's such a rare occasion... ;-) Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:26:25 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: greetings/toko strutters Message-ID: <19990523.182712.-834605.4.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 23 May 1999 19:14:28 -0400 (EDT) Pedro e Francisca Soares writes: > Hey Matt, another one for our ranks.... Bwahahahahahahaha!!!! Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://www.discoveromaha.com/community/groups/plasticmodelers/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 19:59:15 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Jenny Message-ID: <98a02fba.2479f053@aol.com> I have been drawing the wing layouts for about a week now and find some very interesting things. Only factory drawings tell the real tale. The Jenny wings have two main "eye" beams. The tapers at the wing tips is most important, at least for a structural model. In plan view the aft side of the front beam tapers forward, and the forward side of the rear beam tapers aft. Looking aft (or forward) in section, both beams taper symmetrically both on top and bottom. What is interesting is the fact that the plan view taper and section view tapers don't start at the same point. Another interesting point is that all cap strips go on top (over) the beams. However the outboard ribs on both wings which are more narrow than the others because of the tapered beams have cap strips that are recessed into the beams so the caps are flush with the top (and bottom) of the beams. In a plastic model all this is of little importance. The wings are already tapered at the tips. But oh yes? Did the manufacturer taper the wing tips from the correct location. Some food for thought. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 21:10:08 EDT From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: Favorite part; Scratchbuilding detail Unfavorite part; Surface finish / painting. Though the scribing on an off-topic kit fuselage is catching up lately... Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:19:15 -0700 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, wwi-l@raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: The Third Liberty Loan Poster Message-ID: <3748A913.8CAECA0@mars.ark.com> got 2 copies now - thanks. -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 21:06:47 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: <3748B437.834@bellsouth.net> Dennis Ugulano wrote: > And during construction I fly what ever part I'm working on. Oh yeah, that reminds me. Part of the 'gaze longingly at the finished product' process involves about a hundred touch and go's of the coffee table. No traffic pattern here, just a wing-over to go from up-wind to final with the greatest of ease. E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 02:24:04 GMT From: lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Welcome and Help w/a Prop Message-ID: <3748b68f.25377333@legend.firstsaga.com> Okay, we only need to find six or seven more Len's... Very nice models Len. The rigging on the Farman looks beautiful along with the Hen...now that's an unusual project. Now the prop: I am finishing (finally) the Toko SSW D.III in Greven's scheme and all that remains is to add the landing gear and attach the rigging to the outer struts. Greven's plane did not have a spinner and the Toko prop leaves quite a bit to be desired, with or without the spinner. Anyone with ideas on a suitable replacement ? And no, I have trouble carving a turkey let alone a prop. Len ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:28:43 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: <001001bea58d$25405f20$010a56d1@smp> > Dennis Ugulano wrote: > > > And during construction I fly what ever part I'm working on. > > Oh yeah, that reminds me. Part of the 'gaze longingly at the finished > product' process involves about a hundred touch and go's of the coffee > table. No traffic pattern here, just a wing-over to go from up-wind to > final with the greatest of ease. > E. Of course! You don't think we work so hard on them just to sit them on a shelf do you? I can't wait to snap roll my Ilya Mourmets :-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 21:31:40 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Welcome and Help w/a Prop Message-ID: <3748BA0C.5AF5@bellsouth.net> Leonard Endy wrote: > Anyone with ideas on a suitable replacement ? And no, I have trouble > carving a turkey let alone a prop. > How's about a jet engine. :) Just cut the tail and add a pipe. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:45:40 EDT From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: I'm Back - I think Message-ID: <2facbc1b.247a1754@aol.com> Hi Gang Well, I'm back - I think, re subed tonight. Had a lot of personal items to take care of for the last month? Missed all your posts. So I'm back, even got a new computer, 500 MHz with a gazillion meg of ram, damn things a real hoot. Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:05:32 -0500 From: "Robert Johnson" To: Subject: Re: The Master Scratch Builders Message-ID: <000801bea53e$78438980$05f99ed0@robjohn.swdata.com> Thanks for the info rob johnson -----Original Message----- From: Charles and Linda Duckworth To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, May 22, 1999 9:38 PM Subject: The Master Scratch Builders >Someone was looking for this this evening: > >The Master Scratch Builders : Tips & Techniques from the Master Aircraft >Modelers >by John Alcorn $39.95 Schiffer Publishing, Ltd.; ISBN: 0764307959 > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:28:16 -0500 From: "Robert Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Ilya (Was:DONE Oh-Thingie) Message-ID: <003b01bea541$a537afe0$05f99ed0@robjohn.swdata.com> I to have a Ilya in my to build pile, though I have an OT project and the DML Fokker EV to finish befor I tackle it. I bought my kit from NKR and got the book that comes with the project. It is packed full of great photos. I was planing on sanding the seem and hope for the best, but the card stock idea is intriguing. How do you get the details embossed on the surface of the card stock. rob johnson -----Original Message----- From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 8:46 AM Subject: Re: Ilya (Was:DONE Oh-Thingie) > >> smperry@mindspring.com wrote: >> >> ~snip~ >> >> > So, I've put off the Ilya as long as I can, (though >> > the Pegasus Roland D.II is talking to me). How many current or >> > prospective Ilya Mourmets builders do we have out there now? >> >> I've got one in the works. > >Great! I just placed an order with NKR for the Ilya book they carry and >also for one on the S.16. > >So Ken, where are you on your Ilya project? I have removed all the parts >fron the sprues, done some preliminary cleaning up of parts and have them >all bagged according to sub-assembly. > >I still haven't decided how to deal with the rear fuselage seam and still >keep the detail. I'm down to two options, entirely cut out the top & bottom >sections containing the seam and replace with 5 thou card that has the >detail embossed or just sand the seam to invisibility along with the detail >and replace the detail with strip & stretched sprue that gets sanded down to >match the original detail. > >What sort of interior detail are you planning for yours? > >sp > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:39:24 -0500 From: "Robert Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: <005a01bea543$3381f7a0$05f99ed0@robjohn.swdata.com> This may sound crazy and I am not joking. The part I like best is the daydreaming. Visualizing the model in action. Imaging what it would be like to be in that seat I just put in the cockpit, or holding the model in the air and pretending it is flying after the wing is installed. This why it takes me forever to build a kit, but it is a labor of love that in the end I feel some how more attached to the subject I am recreating. rob johnson -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 11:31 AM Subject: Re: Favorite Part >bucky@ptdprolog.net wrote: > What is it the rest of you like best about >> your projects. > >To gaze longingly on the finished product. :) > >Challenging myself with scratchbuilt details is a hoot too. >E. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:09:07 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: <010a01bea597$4840bec0$8732c0d1@dora9sprynet.com> I like just about everything. Filling and sanding is low on my list, but I like it when I get a good, smooth surface on a gap or a sinkhole. Detailing cockpits is also on my list, as well as engines. I think a well-painted and detailed engine improves the model immensely! I'll try the wicker-seat ideas. Sounds like more fun! DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:36:16 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Welcome and Help w/a Prop Message-ID: <010d01bea597$4a830da0$8732c0d1@dora9sprynet.com> Hi Len, I finally found my Windsock Datafile on the SSW D.III and IV. You get 1/72 and 1/48 scale plans, including the props. If It was me, I would copy the page so that I could make a template for a styrene replacement. It shouldn't be too much trouble! Dave ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1597 **********************