WWI Digest 1596 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Ilya (Was:DONE Oh-Thingie) by "K. Hagerup" 2) Re: DONE Oh-Thingie by Dennis Ugulano 3) Re: greetings/toko strutters by Dennis Ugulano 4) Re: Ilya (Was:DONE Oh-Thingie) by smperry@mindspring.com 5) Re: DONE Oh-Thingie by smperry@mindspring.com 6) wing ribs was greetings by Len Smith 7) Re: greetings/toko strutters by Zulis@aol.com 8) returned by "Lee J Mensinger" 9) Re: NAM Report by "Brad Gossen" 10) Jenny by BEN8800@aol.com 11) Re: greetings/toko strutters by "Mike" 12) Re: greetings/toko strutters by Dave Wadman 13) Re: greetings/toko strutters by bucky@ptdprolog.net 14) Hanriot Update by bucky@ptdprolog.net 15) Favorite Part by bucky@ptdprolog.net 16) Re: Favorite Part by smperry@mindspring.com 17) Re: Favorite Part by Ernest Thomas 18) Re: Jenny by Ernest Thomas 19) Re: greetings/toko strutters by "richard eaton" 20) Re: Favorite Part by "Aidrian Bridgeman-sutton" 21) Wicker was: Re: Favorite Part by smperry@mindspring.com 22) Re: Favorite Part by peter crow 23) On topic STUFF by Tom Solinski 24) Re: greetings/toko strutters by peter crow 25) Re: Back Again by Albatrosdv@aol.com 26) Re: Favorite Part by Albatrosdv@aol.com 27) Re: Favorite Part by Albatrosdv@aol.com 28) Re: Favorite Part by Albatrosdv@aol.com 29) Re: greetings/toko strutters by Dennis Ugulano 30) Re: Jenny by BEN8800@aol.com 31) greetings etc, by Len Smith 32) Re: The Master Scratch Builders by KarrArt@aol.com 33) Re: low self esteme was Back Again by KarrArt@aol.com 34) Re: Breguet 14 by KarrArt@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 08:18:22 -0500 From: "K. Hagerup" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Ilya (Was:DONE Oh-Thingie) Message-ID: <3748001E.6D5C@prodigy.net> smperry@mindspring.com wrote: ~snip~ > So, I've put off the Ilya as long as I can, (though > the Pegasus Roland D.II is talking to me). How many current or > prospective Ilya Mourmets builders do we have out there now? I've got one in the works. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 09:42:45 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: DONE Oh-Thingie Message-ID: <199905230943_MC2-76C3-41C7@compuserve.com> SP, >> How many current or prospective Ilya Mourmets = builders do we have out there now? Must be two or three in addition to = myself. << I have one completed in my collection. It is a BIIIIIIG model. And you will have many hours of modelling enjoyment with the rigging. I have 3 hours just in the tail section. Get those spiders fat and sassy before turning them loose on this one. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 3/26/99 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 09:42:44 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: greetings/toko strutters Message-ID: <199905230942_MC2-76C3-41C6@compuserve.com> Good Morning Ken, At least it still morning is sunny central California. Just got back from your page and nice work. The Farman is especially nice looking. Especially since its built in the only true scale. (Oh, I'm going to catch it for that.) And you build fast to boot. 40 models in 6 years rivals my production. My collection is 89 completed with 11 to go reach my goal of 100 kits by the end of 2000. I build all of the countries planes, being split about 50/50 between Allied and Axis powers. Vacuform is about 1/3rd of the collection at present with one scratchbuilt. Anyway, welcome to the group. There are a lot of interesting and crazy people here. Of, course, I'm not one of them (crazy, that is). Questions are quickly answered and you are going to find the knowledge level here to be incredibly high. You will enjoy yourself. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 3/26/99 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 09:43:00 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Ilya (Was:DONE Oh-Thingie) Message-ID: <005101bea522$2ccf3240$3b2b45cf@smp> > smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > > ~snip~ > > > So, I've put off the Ilya as long as I can, (though > > the Pegasus Roland D.II is talking to me). How many current or > > prospective Ilya Mourmets builders do we have out there now? > > I've got one in the works. Great! I just placed an order with NKR for the Ilya book they carry and also for one on the S.16. So Ken, where are you on your Ilya project? I have removed all the parts fron the sprues, done some preliminary cleaning up of parts and have them all bagged according to sub-assembly. I still haven't decided how to deal with the rear fuselage seam and still keep the detail. I'm down to two options, entirely cut out the top & bottom sections containing the seam and replace with 5 thou card that has the detail embossed or just sand the seam to invisibility along with the detail and replace the detail with strip & stretched sprue that gets sanded down to match the original detail. What sort of interior detail are you planning for yours? sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 09:53:02 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: DONE Oh-Thingie Message-ID: <007501bea523$93d99060$3b2b45cf@smp> > And you will have many hours of modelling enjoyment with the rigging. I > have 3 hours just in the tail section. Get those spiders fat and sassy > before turning them loose on this one. Dennis: I hear that. 3 weeks on the 1 OH thingie and all the rigging I got to do was one stinking antenna wire. I need a string fix :-) I' guess the Ilya will provide that. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 99 15:26:12 GMT From: Len Smith To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: wing ribs was greetings Message-ID: <990523152612.n0000035.lensmith@mail.clara.net> Hello .....Steve(?) Sorry, but I don't know anyone here yet! Wing ribs are 5thou. Evergreen sheet, sanded down on the sheet, cut into the smallest strips that I can see, fixed with liquid poly (Mek Pak if that means anything to you) then sanded down once more when dry with 600 or 1200 wet and dry. Thanks for the kind words, compliments are always wecome, especially when not deserved. Happy modelling! Len Smith http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 10:54:42 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: greetings/toko strutters Message-ID: In a message dated 99-05-23 07:10:13 EDT, Len wrote: << Greetings! This is newmember Len Smith speaking to you, in English, from London,England. >> Welcome, Len! Very nice models and excellent photos, too. The Farman is a plane I have always had difficulty visualizing - loads of pics, but they are so busy and cluttered that I generally cant make anything out. For most planes, GA drawings make everything clear, but the Farmas have such a birdcage of rigging that they are pretty cluttered too. Your pics of the Farman model are the first that I have seen which really allowed me to grasp the layout of the entire plane - great! I am certain you are going to enjoy exchanging ideas with some of the modellers on this list.... Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 10:05:52 -0500 From: "Lee J Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: returned Message-ID: <37481950.9911BE74@wireweb.net> Ubsubscribed for a week to take a brief trip. Back again. Lee ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 11:04:59 -0400 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: NAM Report Message-ID: <199905231510.LAA06408@mail6.globalserve.net> Thanks Kevin. I obviously missed your photos on Al's site. I just had a look, most excellent! As I said I was greatly surprised by the changes since I was last there in '94. I took several shots of the Shorthorn and Jenny as well. If they come out OK I'll hand them over. I didn't get cockpit shots of the N.12 as the Museum Police were hanging about giving me the hairy eyeball. How did you ever manage to wangle a ladder out of them to take those AEG cockpit shots? I got some extreme close-ups of the landing gear and bomb racks on the AEG. I'll give you a shout off list about scanning. I'm looking forward to Rhinebeck. Anyone else on the list game for the pilgrimage on June 12th and 13th? Brad ---------- > From: Kevin & Kimberley > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: NAM Report > Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 6:58 AM > > Brad reports: > > >I just got back from a day trip to the NAM in Ottawa. > > Took lot's of > >pic's. If they turn out I'll see if I can talk someone (Bob) into scanning > >them. > > > > Brad, > > Photos of all the planes are on Al's web site from my last trip to NAM in > February. However, Matt was looking for cockpit shots of the Nie.12. I > would like to see more photos of the Shorthorn now too. You can pass on any > photos you want scanned to me and I'll do them for you. I'm still planning > to go to Rheinbeck next month. > > Kevin Barrett. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 11:18:16 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Jenny Message-ID: Here's my first question on the Jenny. Believe it or not, I have a ton of information and photos and not any photos or details show the ailerons except in a plan view. My question is, are the aileron ribs lightened like the trailing area of the other full lightened ribs? I would think so but am not sure. Ben Lankford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 08:27:20 -0700 From: "Mike" To: Subject: Re: greetings/toko strutters Message-ID: <006001bea530$c0dbdc00$a48c3ace@default> Greetings and welcome to the list, by the looks of your site and it's wonderful photos, you will fit in well with the rest of us village idiots! "It takes a village to raise an idiot...." (at least that's what Hillary Clinton sez....) Mike Dicianna "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" > Greetings! This is newmember Len Smith speaking to you, in English, from > London,England. > > Over the last six years I have built 40 plus models (only another 60 plus to > go), all 1/72 (is there another scale?) , all WW1 or earlier, all Allied (no > germaniacs for me), mostly vacforms and mostly poorly. Photographs of some of > the less objectionable are at http://home.clara.net/lensmith. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 09:33:00 -0700 From: Dave Wadman To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: greetings/toko strutters Message-ID: <37482DBC.E37@nucleus.com> > On Sun, 23 May 1999, Len Smith wrote: > > > Greetings! This is newmember Len Smith speaking to you, in English, from > > London,England. Greetings Len from yet another ex-patriate Londoner and welcome to the list. I'm from Hendon. Dave W ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 11:52:23 -0400 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: greetings/toko strutters Message-ID: <37482437.873D171E@ptdprolog.net> Len Greetings. Nice job on the Maurice Farman. What colors/make paint did you use for your CDL ? Mike Muth Len Smith wrote: > Greetings! This is newmember Len Smith speaking to you, in English, from > London,England. > > Over the last six years I have built 40 plus models (only another 60 plus to > go), all 1/72 (is there another scale?) , all WW1 or earlier, all Allied (no > germaniacs for me), mostly vacforms and mostly poorly. Photographs of some of > the less objectionable are at http://home.clara.net/lensmith. > > WARNING! Toko strutters have one major error and two minor. The main trouble > is that the undercarriage strut are approximately 1/4" too long, giving the poor > beast a very nose in the air stance. Check the length against the Datafile > drawing or the Flashback version which is correct. The other errors are no > dashboard ( but if you cannot scratch one what are you doing here?), and the > solid rear end to the fuselage. The Strutters, like many Sopwiths, had a naked > rear end, very sexy. However, due to the way Toko have set out the tailplan and > rudder this is also very easy to correct. > > Happy modelling! > > Len Smith > http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:02:11 -0400 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Hanriot Update Message-ID: <37482683.33E2008B@ptdprolog.net> OK group, here's my update on the Hanriot I'm building. The lower wing is attached to the fuselage and the painting is done. The 5-color French scheme used on the Hanriot is easier to apply than the SPAD scheme...closer to stsraight lines instead of real squiggly ones. I darkened up the PollyScale French Chestnut brown wwith a little black and it looks better. Middleston for the "beige" 2 greens and a black. As I mentioned earlier, the lower wing doesn't fit easily into the fuselage, so a lot of cutting, sanding, etc is needed. I used Modelmaster silver for the underneath color and it covers nicely. Decals went on the rudder and tailplane without problem. The yellow used seems a little too bright, I like the Americals and Blue Rider golden yellow better, but decided to go with the kit decals. Now, onto the rear fuselage. I decided to cut out part of the rear of the fuselage to show the internal structure, just like on the real ones. As expected, I cut too much off, but it's a lesson leearned. Anyway, upon careful looking at the Datafile, it appears that the round longerons at the top and bottom of the fuselage are a shiny black painted metal. So, I'm back to using the "rigging" wire from the Lindberg Jenny kit. It looks to be the right size. All this and I haven't started the rigging yet or the dreaded alignment of the top wing. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:06:54 -0400 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Favorite Part Message-ID: <3748279E.BBE9F976@ptdprolog.net> Maybe a new thead...I was reading the new FSM and there was a nice article about putting on decals. Anyway, the author made the bold statement that they could give him made and painted models, he just loved decalling. Anyway, it struck me that I sorta hate all the filling and sanding, and really like figuring out the rigging (yes, I am a masochist) and painting and yes, decalling. What is it the rest of you like best about your projects. (Matt, the answer: "1/72 Nieuports" isn't accepted!) Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:27:37 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: <001c01bea539$2c4e4b00$412a45cf@smp> What is it the rest of you like best about > your projects. I like detailing cockpits, rigging and most of all sitting back and looking at it whenever I've completed a major stage in the building process. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 11:28:59 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: <37482CCB.1BC9@bellsouth.net> bucky@ptdprolog.net wrote: What is it the rest of you like best about > your projects. To gaze longingly on the finished product. :) Challenging myself with scratchbuilt details is a hoot too. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 11:32:07 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jenny Message-ID: <37482D87.1F42@bellsouth.net> BEN8800@aol.com wrote: My question is, are the aileron ribs lightened like the > trailing area of the other full lightened ribs? I would think so but am not > sure. Not positive, but iirc, the ailerons might be made from from tube. If the listee who has my Jenny pics will come forward, I'm sure he could tell you. I'm almost positive I have a shot of the uncovered aileron in that stack. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 11:42:13 -0500 From: "richard eaton" To: Subject: Re: greetings/toko strutters Message-ID: <199905231641.LAA07531@sierra.onr.com> Welcome to the list Len from rapidly heating Central Texas. Congratulations on the site and models. Excellent! First time I have seen a finish Port Royal. Mine has been incubating for some years. You will find several folks on the list with very simular (almost to the point of being scary) interests. Right Dennis? Regards, Richard (fellow 1/72 enthusiast) http://www.onr.com/user/eatons/ ---------- > From: Len Smith > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: greetings/toko strutters > Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 6:08 AM > > Greetings! This is newmember Len Smith speaking to you, in English, from > London,England. > > Over the last six years I have built 40 plus models (only another 60 plus to > go), all 1/72 (is there another scale?) , all WW1 or earlier, all Allied (no > germaniacs for me), mostly vacforms and mostly poorly. Photographs of some of > the less objectionable are at http://home.clara.net/lensmith. > > WARNING! Toko strutters have one major error and two minor. The main trouble > is that the undercarriage strut are approximately 1/4" too long, giving the poor > beast a very nose in the air stance. Check the length against the Datafile > drawing or the Flashback version which is correct. The other errors are no > dashboard ( but if you cannot scratch one what are you doing here?), and the > solid rear end to the fuselage. The Strutters, like many Sopwiths, had a naked > rear end, very sexy. However, due to the way Toko have set out the tailplan and > rudder this is also very easy to correct. > > Happy modelling! > > Len Smith > http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 17:58:18 +0100 From: "Aidrian Bridgeman-sutton" To: Subject: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: <00ba01bea53d$7606d560$4785fad4@pc0973> Mike Muth used the sstaem type internet to ask : > What is it the rest of you like best about your projects. Favourite part? Not burning myself *too* badly with the soldering iron.I've been using these things for years, but my instincts haven't yet developed to the stage that my hands are aware that the sharp end is hot without thinking about it. Serious answer - detailing the cockpit in some respects. In others- making wicker seats for example - it's decidedly not fun, at least not while I'm actually doing it. I kind of like the results though. Rigging is the bit that differentiates the faithful from the common herd, so while I may not enjoy it at times, I can take an existentialist view when it gets to me. Now here's a thought - I'd have thought wicker seats might be a good thing to produce by PE techniques. Will some one reassure me that it hasn't been done - please? Aidrian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:13:07 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Wicker was: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: <003301bea53f$874ac6e0$412a45cf@smp> > Now here's a thought - I'd have thought wicker seats might be a good thing > to produce by PE techniques. Will some one reassure me that it hasn't been > done - please? > > > Aidrian The PART PE sheet for the Toko Snipe has a fairly good wicker seat in it. I also like doing wicker seats. (I also like it better when I'm done). My methods of madness are at the following URL http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/seat.htm What method do you use Aidrian? sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 10:18:03 -0700 (PDT) From: peter crow To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: <19990523171803.12271.rocketmail@web706.mail.yahoo.com> --- Ernest Thomas wrote: > bucky@ptdprolog.net wrote: > What is it the rest of you like best about > > your projects. > Rigging... especially some of the more flimsy vacs and seeing how the rigging helps hold the structure together.. P.Crow _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:16:53 -0500 From: Tom Solinski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: On topic STUFF Message-ID: <37483805.469B0F81@ionet.net> Again this isn't an endorsement just a nifty source. I received the "Wright Bros." catalogue from Sporties pilot shop in beautiful Batavia Oh. The summer edition has some nice WW-I and golden aged stuff. Specifically two posters depicting Rickenbacker's and MvR' aircraft and the Smithsonian's collection of fabric swatches from A/C they've restored. They are at 1 800-543-8633. Catalogs are free Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 10:26:51 -0700 (PDT) From: peter crow To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: greetings/toko strutters Message-ID: <19990523172651.1552.rocketmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> --- Len Smith wrote: > Greetings! This is newmember Len Smith speaking to > you, in English, from > London,England. Hello Len... I really enjoyed your site, and the models are fantastic.. would be great to see some of the others in your collection.. Also thanks for the info on the "Toko" Strutters.. Have two of these planned, and its nice to hear about errors like that before I start and not after, which is the norm for me..;-) P. Crow > _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:02:33 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Back Again Message-ID: <38f3ab28.24799cb9@aol.com> In a message dated 99-05-23 08:16:34 EDT, you write: << These days, the IRS is a bit more willing to help and answer questions on the phone. This time of year is better than phoning up on April 14. Don't make the mistake that because you are a pauper, the IRS will not audit you. If you're interested, the IRS has a web site that contains all their publications in adobe acrobat form, so you can read the rules for yourself. If I have time, I'll dig out the relevant pub and have a look. I don't work for the IRS, BTW. >> Actually, I am aware of the fact that the IRS is not all bad folks. There is a member of that organization who comes out to Chino often as an airplane lover, and has been known to let them know how to stay well away from any alarms and other trip wires the IRS has. It was from that source that we learned that since models aren't "art," the "art" rules (which as an artist I am aware of and you clearly described correctly) don't apply. Also, if your "donation" doesn't go over $500, it doesn't trip any bells. What we do there, where someone like RK has donated the 1/32 Gotha, is he has a "market" from his sales to his collectors, and I am the Museum's "recognized expert" to give a valuation for the IRS deduction. It's worked so far with others. So far as audits are concerned, in other parts of the country, you may be right, however here in "Hollywierd" they wait for the paupers who suddenly become non-paupers with a screenplay sale or something similar, and then audit them the following year. Which is why, all indications of future success to the contrary, I still maintain my records and do my deductions properly, even when there is so little income as to make the 1040EZ the easy way out. They really have had their personnel ranks thinned, to the point where they do have to run a "cost-benefit analysis" on proposed audits, publicly-stated rules and policies to the contrary notwithstanding. This is the one good thing I can think of that has resulted from "nineties government" in Washington. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:11:25 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: In a message dated 99-05-23 12:09:15 EDT, you write: << Anyway, it struck me that I sorta hate all the filling and sanding, and really like figuring out the rigging (yes, I am a masochist) and painting and yes, decalling. What is it the rest of you like best about your projects. (Matt, the answer: "1/72 Nieuports" isn't accepted!) Mike Muth >> I like decalling, especially where I rummage through the decal dungeon and "cut and paste" bits from this and that sheet to do a scheme no one else has. Often the scheme will later be done correctly on a later sheet, but it's nice I did it myself. A good example of this (ah-oo-ga! ah-oo-ga! OT alert! OT alert! all hands man your GQ stations!!) was doing Alex Vraciu's Hellcat a few years back. The 1/48 sheet from SuperScale was inaccurate in that the personal markings were too big. They were also "too big" on the 1/72 sheet for a 1/72 airplane, but perfectly sized for a 1/48 model. Another OT example was doing Geoff Fisken's "Wairapa Wildcat" with a truly ancient personal marking from one of the very first MicroScale sheets (interesting the decal was useable 22 years later) since that personal marking was the right size in 1/48, though placed on a "1/72" sheet. I enjoy the "detective work" on figuring out that the decal sheet is wrong and getting the markings right. Fortunately, with modern WW1 kits, the manufacturers are getting it closer to right to begin with. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:12:11 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: In a message dated 99-05-23 12:31:10 EDT, you write: << To gaze longingly on the finished product. :) Challenging myself with scratchbuilt details is a hoot too. E. >> Hear! Hear! TC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:13:36 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Favorite Part Message-ID: In a message dated 99-05-23 12:57:49 EDT, you write: << Now here's a thought - I'd have thought wicker seats might be a good thing to produce by PE techniques. Will some one reassure me that it hasn't been done - please? >> Not PE that I know of, but Mike West at Lone Star Models has created some really excellent WW1 wicker seats in resin. In the Proper Scale, unfortunately for the teensy-weensy crowd. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:15:08 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: greetings/toko strutters Message-ID: <199905231415_MC2-76C0-3525@compuserve.com> Richard, >> You will find several folks on the list with very simular (almost to the point of being scary) interests. Right Dennis? Regards, Richard (fellow 1/72 enthusiast) << That is scary isn't it. Now there are at least three of us that build almost the same thing. Len, go over and look at Richard's page and you see what he's talking about. You will also hears rumors of a 1/4something scale. No truth to the rumors. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 3/26/99 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:34:21 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jenny Message-ID: In a message dated 5/23/99 12:34:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << Not positive, but iirc, the ailerons might be made from from tube. If the listee who has my Jenny pics will come forward, I'm sure he could tell you. I'm almost positive I have a shot of the uncovered aileron in that stack. >> I'm sure tha ailerons have wooden ribs. Hope you can find the photo. As to tubing, the rudder is tubing and leading edge of the horizontal stab and trailing edge of the elevator. Some rudders were all wood but I am going with a tube type so I can make it a britannia casting. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 99 19:40:24 GMT From: Len Smith To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: greetings etc, Message-ID: <990523194024.n0000050.lensmith@mail.clara.net> Greetings etc. My thanks to all for the generous welcomes and comments. Before I ventured to post to this august and knowledgable collection of eggheads I spent some time browsing some of the old lists to get the general feel of the list. I found it mainly insane, with a hint of madness and more than a toch of insanity. In short homely and enjoyable. I am glad to be aboard. Mike Muth wrote "Nice job on the Maurice Farman. What Colours/Make paint did you use for your CDL? For several years now all of my models have been painted in Citadel Miniature acrylics from Games Workshop. The last stateside address I have for them is Games Workshop 3431-C Benson Avenue, Baltimore, Maryland, 21227-1072, U.S.A. I use the scientific method for mixing the colours that I need, some of this, a dash of that, add abit of something else, and so on until I get acolour that I like. As far as i can remember I used Bleached Bone, Skull White and Vomit Brown. They have obviously never heard of Federal or British Standards! But they do make exceedingly good paints. Happy Modelling! Len Smith http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 15:01:18 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The Master Scratch Builders Message-ID: <9fb27b03.2479aa7e@aol.com> In a message dated 5/22/99 7:38:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cnlduckwor@ninenet.com writes: << Someone was looking for this this evening: The Master Scratch Builders : Tips & Techniques from the Master Aircraft Modelers by John Alcorn $39.95 Schiffer Publishing, Ltd.; ISBN: 0764307959 >> I couldn't stand by and wait for a comp copy, so I BOUGHT the damn thing Friday. EGAD! What the $%$%^% am I doing in this book with all these gifted, utterly unworldly modelers? Nevermind that I have a few small items in this tome- I would have bought the book anyway. Aside from John Alcorn's awe inspiring DH-9a, the WW I content includes a couple of shots of a fine fine Taube, Aviatik D.I, great how-to coverage of a Curtis HS-2L, a shot of an RE-8, Brandenburg D.I, and much more. The writing is witty, humorous yet informative. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 15:01:21 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: low self esteme was Back Again Message-ID: In a message dated 5/22/99 11:09:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, a.bs@virgin.net writes: << If models were poetry then I'd be Wiliam McGonagall: O, beautiful work bench nowhere near the silvery Tay, Alas I am very sorry to say, That tons of plastic need carting away On this May Suturday of ninteen ninety nine Which will be remembered for a very long time. Aidrian >> Welcome back to Aidrian B/S Without whose help I must confess a mini-Bristol would still be undressed and I would still be stressed.... sig..... I meant well! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 15:01:22 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Breguet 14 Message-ID: In a message dated 5/22/99 6:51:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dave@vga-graphics.com writes: << I have a short article on building a louver punch for sheet brass done by a model railroader in the UK, if I recall correctly. I don't see why it wouldn't work on styrene as well. It was a development of the one Gerald Wingrove (the Harry Woodman of auto modelling) detailed in his first book. I can dig it out if you or anyone else are interested. DV >> I've got that article somewhere, but working with metal always leaves me scarred and broken! Robert K. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1596 **********************