WWI Digest 1579 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: M-S logo by Matthew E Bittner 2) Re: shops in England by Matthew E Bittner 3) Toko Strutter (Comic) by Matthew E Bittner 4) Re: News from Prague by Ernest Thomas 5) More Comics by Matthew E Bittner 6) Re: News from Prague by Mike Fletcher 7) Re: Rib Tapes on the SSW... by Tom Solinski 8) Re: Almost forgot by Ernest Thomas 9) Re: Almost forgot by "Bob Pearson" 10) Re: shops in England by Tom Solinski 11) Re: Hometowns WAS Re: Scale Wars by "David Vosburgh" 12) Re: Toko Strutter (Comic) by "K. Hagerup" 13) Re: Another one by "David Vosburgh" 14) Bristol M.1C by "Brad Gossen" 15) Re: Toko Strutter (Comic) by Matthew E Bittner 16) Re: Another one by Dennis Ugulano 17) Re: Jim Pliml by John Huggins 18) Re: Another one by "DAVID BURKE" 19) I'll get to it by roguerpj 20) Re: Belated Response to Ilya Muromets Question by roguerpj 21) Re: Shops in England by David & Carol Fletcher 22) Cardinal Sin (was:Re: Another one) by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) 23) Re: Shops in England by Pedro e Francisca Soares 24) Motor books (was Re: Shops in England) by Pedro e Francisca Soares 25) Off-Topics by John & Allison Cyganowski 26) Re: Book Shops in England by "Charles and Linda Duckworth" 27) Re: Belated Response to Ilya Muromets Question by smperry@mindspring.com 28) Pup Info by "David Vosburgh" 29) Re: Pup Info by Ernest Thomas 30) Official Designations by "cameron rile" 31) Re: Pup Info by smperry@mindspring.com 32) Re: Official Designations by "Sandy Adam" 33) Re: Cardinal Sin (was:Re: Another one) by Albatrosdv@aol.com 34) Re: Pup Info by Albatrosdv@aol.com 35) Re: Pup Info by Ernest Thomas 36) Re: Toko Strutter (Comic) by "richard eaton" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:35:54 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: M-S logo Message-ID: <19990514.182435.-804495.3.mbittner@juno.com> On Fri, 14 May 1999 08:31:51 -0400 (EDT) Scottfking@aol.com writes: > I have seen it in 1/48 and that was in the Flashback kit of the MoS > Type I - > would be nice if there were MoS (and Pfalz) logos in 1/48 and 1/72. Maybe Ivan or whomever in CR can convince MPD to do them? They have some great ones on the HR MoS Type L decal sheet. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:15:44 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: shops in England Message-ID: <19990514.182435.-804495.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Fri, 14 May 1999 07:52:29 -0400 (EDT) "LEJEUNE, Philippe" writes: > I'm new in the list and I think I could not arrive in a better place > for > beginning in WW1 1/72e modeling Oh boyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboy He builds 1/72nd, and he's French! You, sir, are more than welcome! :-) Hopefully you build 1/72nd WW1 French as well. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 18:24:33 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Toko Strutter (Comic) Message-ID: <19990514.182435.-804495.4.mbittner@juno.com> Well, my Toko Comic Strutter showed up today (Thanks, You-Know-Who!). Kevin's right. These are nice kits. I would dare say the best Toko WW1 kit yet. In comparing it with the Flashback, Toko has everything much thinner than the Flashback. Which means - in my case - a definite center strut breakage. :-) I am impressed with this kit! Do I "discount", or "take back" my thoughts about the Flashback kit? Not at all. I still think it's the best WW1 kit out there. But at twice the price of a Toko, you kind of would expect it. Do I recommend the Toko Strutter's? You bet! This is a great kit. While Toko failed on two counts - the "sweep-up" of the turtledeck and the lack of a kingpost - the exceeded in two areas Flashback missed: the exhaust channel, and the area under the horizontal tail is far more accurate. How would I rate these? If you have the money - and are interested in a contest-quality model - buy the Flashback and add the areas they missed. If you want to build two Strutters for the price of one, go Toko. You can still build the Toko into a contest winning entry. No doubt. If you're a sadist, find a Merlin. If you want completeness, find a Pegasus. However, if you haven't bought any Strutter's, I would say (sacriledge!) buy Toko. As I previously said, though, I still stand by my thoughts and comments about the Flashback. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 18:22:58 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: News from Prague Message-ID: <373CB052.3810@bellsouth.net> Chris Banyai-Riepl wrote: > > >> 1/72 Fokker Dr.I Stripdown > > > Jeers! > > How could you possibly jeer this one?!?!?! Now we can FINALLY depict MvR's > timely demise accurately, with hordes of Australian soldiers walking away > with bits and pieces of red fabric Well now I have to buy one. :) E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 18:31:30 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: More Comics Message-ID: <19990514.183132.-804495.5.mbittner@juno.com> So, does anybody know of good references for Strutter Comics? Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:50:52 -0700 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: News from Prague Message-ID: <373CB6DC.BC4FE048@mars.ark.com> thx :) "Robert M. Farrar" wrote: > > Mike, > I was there the other day...I think it's www.eduard.com oddly enough:-). > Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Fletcher > To: Multiple recipients of list > Date: Friday, May 14, 1999 4:01 PM > Subject: Re: News from Prague > > >Does Eduard have a web site of their own? > >-- > >Mike Fletcher ___ ., > >mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; > >mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" > >icq=19554083 @ > > -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 18:51:30 -0500 From: Tom Solinski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rib Tapes on the SSW... Message-ID: <373CB702.3430CB09@ionet.net> Dave, >my question: would a SSW D.IV have rib tape on the underside of the wings? >From a full scale stand point: Rib tape is used to locally reinforce the fabric covering over the ribs. It prevents the rib stitching from pulling through the covering material, which would allow the covering to pull off. (not good). Even though the lower surface of a wing is under less strain than the upper it still needs to have reinforcement to stand up to the stresses. I have no photographic proof but the full scale process would lead to a YES answer to your question. Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 19:02:33 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Almost forgot Message-ID: <373CB999.311@bellsouth.net> Michal Beran wrote: > Happy praying and modeling On a more serious note, why don't we try the technologically advanced twentieth century approach and have everyone send an E-MAIL to the actual Eduard company. I think we'd have a better chance of getting it, as opposed to having every one chant in the general direction of Prague? Or how's about some sort of list petition? And while we're at it, why not suggest clear wings for ANY subject that could have had CDL wings top and bottom at some point. This would be a nice feature on the Alb C-III. One way or another, I'm sure they would be glad to hear that we're so interested in what they're doing. How do you start a list petition? E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:07:46 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Almost forgot Message-ID: <199905150019.RAA31353@mail.rapidnet.net> E queries .. >How do you start a list petition? >E. I think you just did. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 19:05:08 -0500 From: Tom Solinski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: shops in England Message-ID: <373CBA34.FBD1A06F@ionet.net> An another one bite the dark. (side) Matthew E Bittner wrote: > Oh boyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboy > > He builds 1/72nd, and he's French! You, sir, are more than welcome! :-) > > Hopefully you build 1/72nd WW1 French as well. ;-) > > Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:23:13 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Hometowns WAS Re: Scale Wars Message-ID: <003b01be9e69$1f6dd940$2f7433cf@Pvosburg> -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Adam Date: Friday, May 14, 1999 5:44 AM Subject: Re: Hometowns WAS Re: Scale Wars Sandy writes: >Absolutely David - Ewan is a big celebrity around here - he went to >Morison's Academy which is directly opposite my house and regularly >re-visits the school to encourage the drama groups etc. His Dad still >teaches there. (His uncle is another Crieff actor - Denis Lawson - who was >the over-sexed hotel owner in "Local Hero" and currently stars in some BBC >production about the UK Ambassador to Ireland.) ... well, it was ALMOST my last word. Wasn't Denis Lawson also 'Wedge' in the original 'Star Wars' movies? 'Local Hero' was one of my favorite movies... I'm listening to Mark Knopfler's soundtrack to it right now, in fact. DV >Sandy > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 19:25:52 -0500 From: "K. Hagerup" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Toko Strutter (Comic) Message-ID: <373CBF10.5A38@prodigy.net> Someone wrote: > If you're a sadist, find a Merlin. Why? Does the Merlin not like to be built? Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:37:35 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Another one Message-ID: <00ab01be9e6b$221a70c0$2f7433cf@Pvosburg> -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Ugulano To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, May 14, 1999 12:56 AM Subject: Another one Dennis First, congrats on the finish. <> >fishing leader worked great. I wonder what fly tying line would look like? > I may have to check that out soon. I've been using something from an Orvis store the salesman called 'tippet' (any fly-fishermen out there?) for rigging, and it looks dead-on for 1:72 rigging to me. I can find out more if you're interested. It's extremely fine, a dull silver-grey, and ties like a dream. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:33:37 -0400 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Bristol M.1C Message-ID: <199905150037.UAA14703@mail5.globalserve.net> I just got home with a lovely little 1/48 resin Bristol monoplane from a company called SPIN MODEL (never heard of them). The molds seem very clean, no pin holes or bubbles. A cursory inspection shows a favourable comparison to the datafile drawings, everything appears spot on. Fuselage is molded in two halves with cockpit wall detail molded in. A nice simple PE cockpit and struts sheet is provided as well as two sets of wheels although there is no explanation for this inclusion, hopefully the datafile will provide a clue. The Le Rhone leaves a bit to be desired. Mine has a lot of flash and a few pin holes in the pots. A not too bad Vickers is provided (although I think an Aero Club might be in order) and a strange looking thing which I believe is meant to be a camera gun to go with the Turnberry School of Air Fighting version. Decals are provided for the afore mentioned version, Bright red sunburst, wings and tail with a red net pattern fuselage as seen on the cover of the datafile. The other schemes provided are for a Macedonian machine C4907 (as seen on the rear of the datafile) and C4994 which is an orange dragon bedecked machine which I believe is now on display in the RAFM. The decals are by MPD and appear to be very good quality. All and all not a bad kit for $55.00 Cdn. (about $30.US). It'll sure look pretty sitting up there on top of the pile. Especially in the morning when the sunlight makes the gathering dust appear to dance on the ever increasing mountain of kit boxes. Brad BigglesRFC@globalserve.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:54:21 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Toko Strutter (Comic) Message-ID: <19990514.205453.-827459.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Fri, 14 May 1999 20:27:17 -0400 (EDT) "K. Hagerup" writes: > Why? Does the Merlin not like to be built? Whoops! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:23:56 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Another one Message-ID: <199905142224_MC2-75C9-90DD@compuserve.com> Dave, >> I've been using something from an Orvis store the salesman called 'tippet' (any fly-fishermen out there?) for rigging, and it looks dead-on for 1:72 rigging to me. I can find out more if you're interested. It's extremely fine, a dull silver-grey, and ties like a dream. << Sounds like what I'm looking for. I'm happy with the thread for the wires but was looking for something thinner for control lines. The dull-silver sounds exactly what I'm looking for. Let me check out my local stores. If I can't find it, I let you know. Thanks so much. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 3/26/99 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 21:33:23 -0500 From: John Huggins To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jim Pliml Message-ID: >Jim, A friend and I are both going to ScaleFest, could you send date & time. >For some reason I can't get a message to you...keeps failing. >Thanks, >Bob >p.s. ' 91-A1 45acp. >"Honor,Duty,Country"...Jeff Cooper For info on ScaleFest and a link to a very good map page see http://www.ipmsnct.org from there you can find the info you need. JPH ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:06:09 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Another one Message-ID: <000e01be9e80$30d01ba0$4ef410d1@dora9sprynet.com> Yeah, Sporting goods stores and fly-fishing stores are real goldmines to the modeler! I have found extremely fine brass and silery-metal wire and fly-tying tools at a ff store here, and other stuff too. It wasn't really expensive either. I like wire instead of thread, I usually used it to put a good droop in the antenna wires of my FW-190D's, and I like that it can be pulled taught. Also, very thinned paints (I use lacquer thinner) 'creep' well on it (spread and cover by themselves). Waxed thread isn't nearly as versatile. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Ugulano To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, May 14, 1999 9:27 PM Subject: Re: Another one >Dave, > >>> I've been using something from an Orvis store the salesman called >'tippet' >(any fly-fishermen out there?) for rigging, and it looks dead-on for 1:72 >rigging to me. I can find out more if you're interested. It's extremely >fine, a dull silver-grey, and ties like a dream. << > > >Sounds like what I'm looking for. I'm happy with the thread for the wires >but was looking for something thinner for control lines. The dull-silver >sounds exactly what I'm looking for. Let me check out my local stores. If >I can't find it, I let you know. > > Thanks so much. > >Dennis Ugulano >email: Uggies@compuserve.com >http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies >Page Revised 3/26/99 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:39:36 -0500 From: roguerpj To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: I'll get to it Message-ID: <373CEC77.7B77AFD5@mninter.net> Sorry to those who have responded to my IM post. I was cut off from my ISP yesterday. I now have access once more with a new ISP. (though they don't offer DSL service :-( Thus I will be reading you all a little slower these days) I will catch up tonight and get back to you all. rob johnson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:04:39 -0500 From: roguerpj To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Belated Response to Ilya Muromets Question Message-ID: <373CF257.A56C766D@mninter.net> I have looked closer at the references and feel that the mold lines are correct though the trailing edge seem to thick IMUEO This is based at looking at the pictures of crashed IMs in the book. As to external wooden battens. I would like to help however that would require knowing what those are? :-) Also, I noted that most of the close up shots show that the fabric is vary transparent (that should be fun to try and model??) so it is hard to tell if you are seeing rib tape or the ribs them self. I think scanning the photos might not be a bad idea as I seem to have a different layout than you Steven. (does you copy have numbers for the pictures and english captions for these as well?) Brent wrote: >Howdy! > >> As I look at the > >book I see that the line on the leading edge is wrong but the rib tape lines > >are hard to tell. > >Look on page 11 & 17. You can see the rib caps wrap around the leading edge >from the top of the wing to the bottom. > >Steven Perry wrote: > >>Say more about the wing ribs. Do they have external wooden battens? If so, >>then the Maquette wing's raised rib detail may be the more accurate and >>require only minimal sanding. > >I think the way they are shown is wrong. If I were going to show them it would >be a single fine line. Perhaps I will post the above mentioned photos to >illustrate. > >Later! > >Brent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:04:31 -0700 From: David & Carol Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Shops in England Message-ID: <373CE43F.2E1D@mars.ark.com> Bienvenue des Canadiens en Colombie Britannique, Phillipe! MotorBooks was a great reference stop on my last rip to London (and they have taken two orders of my book !). The whole area around Charing Cross has many new and used bookstores and is worth a bit of time and shoe leather. Dave Fletcher Courtenay, B.C., Canada ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 04:38:48 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Cardinal Sin (was:Re: Another one) Message-ID: David Burke writes (flagrantly!): >I like wire instead of thread, I usually used it to put a >good droop in the antenna wires of my FW-190D's... Aaaaaak! Please! Have mercy on our virgin ears, David. Kevin Barrett. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:21:43 +0100 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Shops in England Message-ID: <373D3CA7.15B8F618@mail.telepac.pt> David & Carol Fletcher wrote: > Bienvenue des Canadiens en Colombie Britannique, Phillipe! > > MotorBooks was a great reference stop on my last rip to London (and they > have taken two orders of my book !). The whole area around Charing > Cross has many new and used bookstores and is worth a bit of time and > shoe leather. > > Dave Fletcher > Courtenay, B.C., Canada Bienvenu Phillipe. You probably are the closest list member to where I stand (Portugal) so you deserve a special Welcome ;-). And Dave, you're absolutely right. Uncle Sniffy took me browsing through a lot of bookstores around charing cross and there's plenty to choose from there. Um abraco Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:25:49 +0100 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Motor books (was Re: Shops in England) Message-ID: <373D3D9C.4793B193@mail.telepac.pt> David & Carol Fletcher wrote: > > > MotorBooks was a great reference stop on my last rip to London ( Just one thing more. I found motorbooks by chance while strolling after Graham had quit, and even though the shop is full of goodies, I couldn't help but feel even stronger "bad vibes" from the guy who ran the shop, than those from the hannatns guys at Colindale. Any of you experienced this too? (Werll if they took orders for Dave's book maybe they're not such bad blokes after all ;:-) Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 07:36:11 -0400 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Off-Topics Message-ID: <373D5C2B.2B7F@worldnet.att.net> To all the new folks welcome, It is not that we don't like 1-oh' thingies or other off topics. On the contrary, I have a large collection of references and kits that are definetly not WWI and many of the other folks do as well. It is just that the bandwidth (and the hobby when you come right down to it) is so completly dominated by these other topics, that we stringbag afficiandos are really crowded out. This is why we have this little corner of cyber space; so we WWI folks can come together and exchange ideas and thoughts. The only way to do this is to keep the signal to noise ratio in our favor. Most of us are not purists. We all indulge in a little off-topic banter now and then. Please try to adhere to the list charter and limit the off-topic subjects. You could always set-up a little list for a side discussion. Thanks for taking this in the spirit in which it was intended. Regards Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 06:49:55 -0500 From: "Charles and Linda Duckworth" To: Subject: Re: Book Shops in England Message-ID: <004801be9ec9$77bc5940$725cdfd1@q1p5x0> I recommend the 'Aviation Book Shop' in London nice OT selection of books and as a remember from both trips they were nice guys to deal with as well. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 09:13:13 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Belated Response to Ilya Muromets Question Message-ID: <000f01be9ed4$b044b220$b72845cf@smp> >As to external >wooden battens. I would like to help however that would require knowing >what those are? :-) Rob On some of the older designs wooden strips were fastened over each rib after the wing was covered with fabric. They served the same purpose as rib stitching, kept the fabric to the airfoil in spite of wind, slipstream and Bernouli's principal attempting to pull it away. As technology evolved, designers found that rib stitching would accomplish the same thing but was much lighter & cheaper. Rib tapes evolved to cover the stitches, seal the stitching holes and generally reenforce the area. >Also, I noted that most of the close up shots show >that the fabric is vary transparent (that should be fun to try and >model??) so it is hard to tell if you are seeing rib tape or the ribs >them self. This is likely the answer to my question, very translucent linen, especially if backlit, might make the ribs appear dark enough to suggest external battens. >I think scanning the photos might not be a bad idea as I seem >to have a different layout than you Steven. (does you copy have numbers >for the pictures and english captions for these as well?) Afraid I don't have the book yet, but I'll be ordering it from NKR before I begin my Ilya which I have been avoiding ;-) I have the HP 0/400 and now Phillip has said there is hope of the Stakken in 1:72 as well, so I better get on the stick and build the Ilya or I will get hopelessly behind . Make that behinder sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 09:40:08 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: Pup Info Message-ID: <003b01be9ed8$82c7a880$067433cf@Pvosburg> Does anyone have a clear picture of the gun butt/windscreen arrangement on the Pup? I'm referring to the sizeable "D" shaped crash pad suspended at the rear of the Vickers... I need to know how it was attached to the receiver, and what (if anything) was in the center --- the photos I have don't show whether there was glass or what. Did Lee's 'Chin-Chow' have this setup? The photo I have for reference on Dimmock's machine ('Normie') at Sutton's Farm isn't clear enough to tell. I seem to recall some discussion about this in re: the similar (identical?) arrangement on the Triplane a while back, but can't find the thread. TIA, DV ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 09:23:11 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pup Info Message-ID: <373D834F.3770@bellsouth.net> David Vosburgh wrote: > > Does anyone have a clear picture of the gun butt/windscreen arrangement on > the Pup?(snip) > I seem to recall some discussion about this in re: the similar (identical?) > arrangement on the Triplane a while back, but can't find the thread. Hey Dave, Yeah, I have the picture of the triplane detail. The padded 'D' does have a piece of glass in the center. Hard to describe the mounting, but it looks like there's a bracket on the mg which spreads out to attach to the corners of the 'D'. Sorry, but I don't have a scanner, and the picture is a bit out of focus. How soon did you need it? E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:32:19 -0300 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Official Designations Message-ID: <199905150733316@cameron.prontomail.com> What were the oficial shorthand designations for the German JG/Jasta's for example how was JGI/Jasta11 written as shorthand by the Germans. Also were the RNAS Naval squads reffered to as differantly than 1 RNAS or 10 RNAS? cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:42:27 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Pup Info Message-ID: <000601be9ee1$2801f640$062d45cf@smp> >Hey Dave, > >Yeah, I have the picture of the triplane detail. The padded 'D' does >have a piece of glass in the center. Hard to describe the mounting, but >it looks like there's a bracket on the mg which spreads out to attach to >the corners of the 'D'. Sorry, but I don't have a scanner, and the >picture is a bit out of focus. How soon did you need it? >E. Have scan of said photo. Want a copy? sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:54:51 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Official Designations Message-ID: <001601be9ee2$e55b0e60$1ae8b094@sandyada> >What were the oficial shorthand designations for the German JG/Jasta's >for example how was JGI/Jasta11 written as shorthand by the Germans. just as you wrote it. > >Also were the RNAS Naval squads reffered to as differantly than >1 RNAS or 10 RNAS? > 1 (Naval) Squadron, 1(N) Sqdn or "Naval 10" Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:03:57 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cardinal Sin (was:Re: Another one) Message-ID: <82172ab7.246ef4ed@aol.com> In a message dated 99-05-15 04:33:24 EDT, you write: << Aaaaaak! Please! Have mercy on our virgin ears, David. >> Bf-109! Fw-190!! Spitfire!!! Hurricane!!!! P-51!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MiG-15!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Boo! TC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:07:39 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pup Info Message-ID: <360ccaed.246ef5cb@aol.com> In a message dated 99-05-15 09:39:25 EDT, you write: << Did Lee's 'Chin-Chow' have this setup? The photo I have for reference on Dimmock's machine ('Normie') at Sutton's Farm isn't clear enough to tell. >> According to the drawing I had, yes. Which is how I did it - if you aren't building in the eensy-weensy scale, and are rather doing the manly Eduard kit, it has the photoetch brass to do the mount with no problem. TC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 11:57:57 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pup Info Message-ID: <373DA795.4DCB@bellsouth.net> smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > Have scan of said photo. Want a copy? You scanned my picture without my permission? You Bastard! :) E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:11:30 -0500 From: "richard eaton" To: Subject: Re: Toko Strutter (Comic) Message-ID: <199905151711.MAA10152@sierra.onr.com> I picked a Conic up the other day and have to second Matt's recomendation. Just a great little kit. I feel like pinching myself. Toko's molds are getting better with each kit and they are committed to an interesting wwi line of subjects! I will probably replace the motor and guns but that is about it. Regards. Richard ---------- > From: Matthew E Bittner > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Toko Strutter (Comic) > Date: Friday, May 14, 1999 6:20 PM > > Well, my Toko Comic Strutter showed up today (Thanks, You-Know-Who!). > Kevin's right. These are nice kits. I would dare say the best Toko WW1 > kit yet. > > In comparing it with the Flashback, Toko has everything much thinner than > the Flashback. Which means - in my case - a definite center strut > breakage. :-) I am impressed with this kit! Do I "discount", or "take > back" my thoughts about the Flashback kit? Not at all. I still think > it's the best WW1 kit out there. But at twice the price of a Toko, you > kind of would expect it. > > Do I recommend the Toko Strutter's? You bet! This is a great kit. > While Toko failed on two counts - the "sweep-up" of the turtledeck and > the lack of a kingpost - the exceeded in two areas Flashback missed: the > exhaust channel, and the area under the horizontal tail is far more > accurate. > > How would I rate these? If you have the money - and are interested in a > contest-quality model - buy the Flashback and add the areas they missed. > If you want to build two Strutters for the price of one, go Toko. You > can still build the Toko into a contest winning entry. No doubt. If > you're a sadist, find a Merlin. If you want completeness, find a > Pegasus. However, if you haven't bought any Strutter's, I would say > (sacriledge!) buy Toko. > > As I previously said, though, I still stand by my thoughts and comments > about the Flashback. > > > Matt Bittner ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1579 **********************