WWI Digest 1570 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Bertrab D.III yet again by "Steven M. Perry" 2) Re: OT Politics. was Re: Eduard new releases by David & Carol Fletcher 3) Re: Comment to the big and the little dark side was:Re: Eduard by KarrArt@aol.com 4) Re: Champlin N.28 wasRe: German Grey-Green and Lozenge by KarrArt@aol.com 5) Re: Eduard new releases by KarrArt@aol.com 6) Taube gripping wasRe: Eduard new releases by KarrArt@aol.com 7) picking wasRe: OT Politics. was Re: Eduard new releases by KarrArt@aol.com 8) UFAG C.I Question by "richard eaton" 9) Thoughts and such by Matthew E Bittner 10) Spring 1999 OTF by "John C Glaser" 11) Re: Thoughts and such by KarrArt@aol.com 12) Re: Spring 1999 OTF by Matthew E Bittner 13) re:UFAG C-I Question by "richard eaton" 14) Re: Spring 1999 OTF by "Brad Gossen" 15) Re: Dumping Airfixes by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 16) Re: Bertrab D.III yet again by Mike Fletcher 17) Re: OT Politics. was Re: Eduard new releases by Ernest Thomas 18) Re: OT Politics. was Re: Eduard new releases by "David Vosburgh" 19) Re: Blue Max SPAD 7 C.1 - an out of box review. by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> 20) Re: German Aircraft Designations by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> 21) Re: Champlin N.28 wasRe: German Grey-Green and Lozenge by Albatrosdv@aol.com 22) Farman progress by Dennis Ugulano 23) Re: Dumping Airfixes by Dennis Ugulano 24) Re: OT Politics. was Re: Eduard new releases by Dennis Ugulano 25) Rouges gallery by Dennis Ugulano 26) Re: Eduard new releases by Ernest Thomas 27) Re: Thoughts and such by "Robert M. Farrar" 28) Re: Blue Max new releases by Albatrosdv@aol.com 29) Re: OT Politics. was Re: Eduard new releases by "Robert M. Farrar" 30) Re: Farman progress by "Robert M. Farrar" 31) Re: Blue Max new releases by "Robert M. Farrar" 32) Re: OT Politics. was Re: Eduard new releases by David Kinnear 33) Re: Blue Max new releases by "Robert M. Farrar" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 11:04:37 -0400 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Bertrab D.III yet again Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990508110437.00912094@pop.mindspring.com> At 10:46 AM 5/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >Ive done a couple of scanms fo the Bertab pic, my home scanner >couldnt get enough detail so did it on the one at work. Cam: Thanks for the neat pics! sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 10:15:01 -0700 From: David & Carol Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OT Politics. was Re: Eduard new releases Message-ID: <37347115.5808@mars.ark.com> Gentlemen (since no ladies have entered this debate), There are other lists where members can rage on about each other's politics, let us not degenerate to that level - especially, as all the debate has centered on American politics! It is my experience that most modellers are sufficiently right wing as to consider Attila the Hun as the founder of socialism, so we are only talking small degrees of difference anyway. And, as even the most left-wing of American parties is somewhat to the right of most non-American right-wing parties, there is no meaningful comparison for international members of this list. If we continue at this level, our American friends will be debating their right to mount twin Spandaus on hood of their VW New Beetles. In Canada, the wearing of short-sleeved parkas is considered as exercising the right to bare arms... As I said, there is no meaningful comparison. Now, can we get back to soaring over the (pick your scale) trenches. Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 14:32:36 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Comment to the big and the little dark side was:Re: Eduard Message-ID: <9c24421.2465dd44@aol.com> In a message dated 5/8/99 6:36:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Janah@worldnet.att.net writes: << Of course one could argue that I am only making things worse! ;-) Cyg. >> Please continue your "worsening"........! RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 14:32:38 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Champlin N.28 wasRe: German Grey-Green and Lozenge Message-ID: <61d3379f.2465dd46@aol.com> In a message dated 5/7/99 11:47:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Albatrosdv@aol.com writes: << (the only good Republican is face down in a pool of blood - too many warbird owners are Republicans.). Maybe they'll finally get that right when it isn't a bunch of kiddies living on their daddy's oil money. >> Yeah, we need more responsible stewards like Lady Bird Johnson, who ordered one of the B-52 prototypes destroyed before it could be dealt with for the AFM. It didn't fit in with her highway beautification plot. Damned ugly airplanes and war toys cluttering up the landscape. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 14:32:37 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard new releases Message-ID: <3ba84c4d.2465dd45@aol.com> In a message dated 5/8/99 6:28:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, smperry@mindspring.com writes: << ROBSOTALMFDIAPOBRAO >> Say this quickly three times and your biplanes will rig themselves. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 14:32:39 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Taube gripping wasRe: Eduard new releases Message-ID: In a message dated 5/7/99 9:37:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > I probabaly go for it, but I'll be disgruntled and end up making my own > translucent wings unless Eduard can figure that one out! > Why not give em a holler and suggest it? I'll even forgive you for the production delay you're bound to cause, if they can do it. E. >> Yeash but if they do this, I won't have anything to gripe about! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 14:38:27 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: picking wasRe: OT Politics. was Re: Eduard new releases Message-ID: <39f52c4a.2465dea3@aol.com> In a message dated 5/8/99 11:27:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dcf@mars.ark.com writes: << Now, can we get back to soaring over the (pick your scale) trenches. Dave Fletcher >> Or even picking the scales off our trench sores! sorry Robert K. I'll go to my corner now ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 14:20:43 -0500 From: "richard eaton" To: Subject: UFAG C.I Question Message-ID: <199905081920.OAA19871@sierra.onr.com> Well I'm still in my Austro-Hungarian period. If anyone has drawings of the UFAG C.I two seater I would love to see a front view. My blue Rider kit has only side views! Otherwise a supurb vac. Please contact me off list. Regards, and Thanks in Advance! Richard ---------- > From: David & Carol Fletcher > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: OT Politics. was Re: Eduard new releases > Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 1:26 PM > > Gentlemen (since no ladies have entered this debate), > > There are other lists where members can rage on about each other's > politics, let us not degenerate to that level - especially, as all the > debate has centered on American politics! It is my experience that most > modellers are sufficiently right wing as to consider Attila the Hun as > the founder of socialism, so we are only talking small degrees of > difference anyway. And, as even the most left-wing of American parties > is somewhat to the right of most non-American right-wing parties, there > is no meaningful comparison for international members of this list. > > If we continue at this level, our American friends will be debating > their right to mount twin Spandaus on hood of their VW New Beetles. In > Canada, the wearing of short-sleeved parkas is considered as exercising > the right to bare arms... As I said, there is no meaningful comparison. > > Now, can we get back to soaring over the (pick your scale) trenches. > > Dave Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 15:24:44 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Thoughts and such Message-ID: <19990508.152447.-843981.3.mbittner@juno.com> I for one am grateful for the Internet. Mainly for this list, and all of the opportunities it has opened up. If it wasn't for the Internet, I would have never received a photocopy of a Scale Models article from Mike Franklin (thanks again, Mike!) nor would my modeling be as such as it is today. I would like to thank the list collectively for all the help through the years. It is because of it that I am a better modeler today. So, thank you list! :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 15:36:49 -0500 From: "John C Glaser" To: "WW1 Mail List" Subject: Spring 1999 OTF Message-ID: I haven't received my Spring 1999 OTF yet. Anybody else missing theirs? TIA - John ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 16:50:06 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Thoughts and such Message-ID: <4a6048e7.2465fd7e@aol.com> In a message dated 5/8/99 1:20:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mbittner@juno.com writes: << I would like to thank the list collectively for all the help through the years. It is because of it that I am a better modeler today. So, thank you list! :-) Matt Bittner >> Change "years" to a year and three quarter, and this nails my sentiments exactly Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 15:57:48 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Spring 1999 OTF Message-ID: <19990508.155750.-807461.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 8 May 1999 16:39:33 -0400 (EDT) "John C Glaser" writes: > I haven't received my Spring 1999 OTF yet. Anybody else missing > theirs? Yup. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 16:37:14 -0500 From: "richard eaton" To: Subject: re:UFAG C-I Question Message-ID: <199905082136.QAA06072@sierra.onr.com> Thanks to Matt, Peter, and Ken I how have excellent drawings to proceed with. The list is incredible as always. Regards, Richard ---------- > From: Matthew E Bittner > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Spring 1999 OTF > Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 3:53 PM > > On Sat, 8 May 1999 16:39:33 -0400 (EDT) "John C Glaser" > writes: > > > I haven't received my Spring 1999 OTF yet. Anybody else missing > > theirs? > > Yup. > > > Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 18:10:23 -0400 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: Spring 1999 OTF Message-ID: <199905082215.SAA15236@mail6.globalserve.net> Forget the Spring '99! I still haven't received Winter '99 or any of my '98 journals! I sent a money order to cover '98 and '99 last October. Brad ---------- > From: John C Glaser > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Spring 1999 OTF > Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 4:39 PM > > I haven't received my Spring 1999 OTF yet. Anybody else missing theirs? > > TIA > > - John ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 15:38:47 -0700 (PDT) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Dumping Airfixes Message-ID: <199905082238.PAA05566@compass.OregonVOS.net> In addition to the Pfalz, Alb. W.4 (2) Fokker E.V/D.VIII (2) Breguet 14 (2) Sopwith 1 1/2 strutter Roland D.II DH.5 DH.9A Vickers FB.5 "Gunbus" Nieuport 11 "Bebe" I thought I had a Halberstadt D.II but I can't seem to find that 'un. But, I'll keep looking for that - it -may- be available if I can find it. Cheers, Bill > >On Sat, 8 May 1999 01:15:08 -0400 (EDT) bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill >Shatzer) writes: > >> PS: I'd like to dump my Merlins as well but I don't suppose that >> there is much interest in those? > >Depends on which ones you have. ;-) > > >Matt Bittner > > -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "You don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows." -Bob Dylan- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 15:48:18 -0700 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Bertrab D.III yet again Message-ID: <3734BF32.6D41CC9B@mars.ark.com> Whats the story behind the all red SE5 profile that lurks in that directory? -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 18:11:20 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OT Politics. was Re: Eduard new releases Message-ID: <3734C498.7937@bellsouth.net> David & Carol Fletcher wrote: > If we continue at this level, our American friends will be debating > their right to mount twin Spandaus on hood of their VW New Beetles. It's not a question of rights. It's a matter of practicabilty. They mount so much easier in the old Beetles. :) E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 19:32:00 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: OT Politics. was Re: Eduard new releases Message-ID: <002f01be99aa$f9f007a0$66d690d0@Pvosburg> -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Thomas Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 7:51 PM Subject: Re: OT Politics. was Re: Eduard new releases Dave F. wrote: <>...our American friends will be debating >> their right to mount twin Spandaus on hood of their VW New Beetles. To which EtH replies: >It's not a question of rights. It's a matter of practicabilty. They >mount so much easier in the old Beetles. :) >E. This reminds me of the TR-3a I had in the early '70s with the Lewis gun on a Foster mount above the windscreen. It worked pretty well, but it got sure got interesting when you had to change the drum, shift, and steer at the same time... I got two NSUs and an Amphicar with it, though. DV ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 17:43:05 -0600 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Blue Max SPAD 7 C.1 - an out of box review. Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990508174305.007ca4c0@mail> At 06:50 AM 08/05/99 -0400, you wrote: >>Of course the best case I've yet seen made for the BM Spad VII is Sandy >>Adam's lovely built-up example, available for viewing on the W.W. I page. >>Great job Sandy. >> >>Dane > > >Well thank you very much Dane. > >That is actually a DML conversion though - using the spare BM radiator and >decals! >I built it side-by-side with the BM as a Vieux Charles, but I have only >finished rigging that one, this last few evenings - I'll post pictures along >with the BM Camels shortly. >Sandy > > ARRRGH! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 17:45:50 -0600 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: German Aircraft Designations Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990508174550.007cdb30@mail> German aircraft designations? How about "targets," for Billie and Collie? Dane ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 19:50:54 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Champlin N.28 wasRe: German Grey-Green and Lozenge Message-ID: In a message dated 99-05-08 14:34:10 EDT, you write: << Yeah, we need more responsible stewards like Lady Bird Johnson, who ordered one of the B-52 prototypes destroyed before it could be dealt with for the AFM. It didn't fit in with her highway beautification plot. Damned ugly airplanes and war toys cluttering up the landscape. >> I never thought of the Johnsons as Democrats, just Texans - who as we all know (and I carry a RoT passport) are completely unlike anyone or anything else, TC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 20:07:07 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Farman progress Message-ID: <199905082007_MC2-74FB-1E26@compuserve.com> All, Just to give you an update on the ROSEPLANE Farman F40bis. After letting it get the best of me, I dove and it is almost ready for rigging. Its a big plane, almost 9" wingspan. Its not as delicate as the Voisin. This will give me three French pushers (Caudron G.3 and Voisin). This plane now inspires me to go back to my Otto Doppledecker and complete it. It's about 50% complete. The computer is day by day. Tech support is having fits installing a new hard drive due one corrupted file that we cannot delete on the old hard drive. I hide under the bed when I hear ugly sounds coming from the computer room. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 3/26/99 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 20:07:06 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Dumping Airfixes Message-ID: <199905082007_MC2-74FB-1E25@compuserve.com> Bill, If you find the Halberstadt, I'd be interested. That was the first Merlin release. Not a bad kit. As far as the others, the W.4. DH-5, DH-9a, Gunbus, and D.VIII are not bad kits for anyone who may be interested in Bill's kits. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 3/26/99 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 20:07:04 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: OT Politics. was Re: Eduard new releases Message-ID: <199905082007_MC2-74FB-1E23@compuserve.com> Dave, Thank you and I second that. Please, take this off line. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 3/26/99 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 20:19:42 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Rouges gallery Message-ID: <199905082019_MC2-750A-7482@compuserve.com> Someone, I have my internet access back. Can someone give the the location of our Rouges gallery? The address is in the files that got lost. TIA Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 3/26/99 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 19:26:48 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard new releases Message-ID: <3734D648.65A@bellsouth.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 5/8/99 6:28:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > smperry@mindspring.com writes: > > << ROBSOTALMFDIAPOBRAO >> > > Say this quickly three times and your biplanes will rig themselves. > Robert K. WOW! It really works. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 19:38:45 -0500 From: "Robert M. Farrar" To: Subject: Re: Thoughts and such Message-ID: <000601be99b4$4d5917c0$962e88cf@rmf> Hear, hear, urrah! urrah! Bob -----Original Message----- From: Matthew E Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 3:21 PM Subject: Thoughts and such >I for one am grateful for the Internet. Mainly for this list, and all of >the opportunities it has opened up. If it wasn't for the Internet, I >would have never received a photocopy of a Scale Models article from Mike >Franklin (thanks again, Mike!) nor would my modeling be as such as it is >today. > >I would like to thank the list collectively for all the help through the >years. It is because of it that I am a better modeler today. So, thank >you list! :-) > > >Matt Bittner > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 20:40:38 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Blue Max new releases Message-ID: <1f80ecb8.24663386@aol.com> Spent an enjoyable afternoon at Chino today with David Hannant, in-country on vacation and visiting air museuems and such. My a2a session with the Museum's SBD was cut short by an in-flight emergency when they lost hydraulics. It was a tense moment or ten pumping down the gear, but the world's population of operational Dauntlesses has not been reduced by one-third. Anyway, David had brought along some goodies, and among them were yet another Roland C.II and the new SE.5a. This Roland kit did not have the wing ripple. Nice to know, and at the same time more frustrating, since I really don't think a modeler should have to pay $50 for something where they open the box with a sense of dread at what may lurk within. This question of quality control really needs to be brought up to BM, and since the members of this list constitute a not-inconsiderable percentage of total sales from a production run of 1500, perhaps some sort of concentrated effort might have a result. I mean, if Eduard can conquer this problem, what is BM's problem?? The SE.5a: quality up there with the Camel and Bristol fighter as regards surface detail. Wing ripple only found on underside of lower wings, and not so bad that one could probably get away with leaving it alone and letting it hide under a coat of paint. Decals for James McCudden, 56 Squadron, 1917, and Elliot White Springs, 85 Squadron, 1918. Worth the effort, tho one will need some heavy-gauge sand paper to thin the fuselage halves in the vicinity of the cockpit, which will likely mean scratchbuilding the bits of decking inside the cockpit. The Vickers machine gun looks OK, but I would replace the Lewis with an Aeroclub Lewis gun. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 20:07:06 -0500 From: "Robert M. Farrar" To: Subject: Re: OT Politics. was Re: Eduard new releases Message-ID: <001f01be99b8$439ac040$962e88cf@rmf> Will gladly be a butt...it IS a question of RIGHTS. ALL Guns are INANIMATE objects. iod. You all know the rest of the old saw. PERIOD. Bob p.s. NRA Life Member pee.ess.ess. Anyone on the list in the DFW area (or elsewhere) who is not sure, or would like to go shoot, contact me. I won't mention this again unless provoked.:-) -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 6:14 PM Subject: Re: OT Politics. was Re: Eduard new releases >David & Carol Fletcher wrote: > >> If we continue at this level, our American friends will be debating >> their right to mount twin Spandaus on hood of their VW New Beetles. > >It's not a question of rights. It's a matter of practicabilty. They >mount so much easier in the old Beetles. :) >E. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 20:12:14 -0500 From: "Robert M. Farrar" To: Subject: Re: Farman progress Message-ID: <003401be99b8$fd877de0$962e88cf@rmf> Oui,uoi, Computers (Win.'95) really bite at least half of the time. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Ugulano To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 7:10 PM Subject: Farman progress >All, > > Just to give you an update on the ROSEPLANE Farman F40bis. > > After letting it get the best of me, I dove and it is almost ready >for rigging. Its a big plane, almost 9" wingspan. Its not as delicate as >the Voisin. This will give me three French pushers (Caudron G.3 and >Voisin). > > This plane now inspires me to go back to my Otto Doppledecker and >complete it. It's about 50% complete. > > The computer is day by day. Tech support is having fits installing >a new hard drive due one corrupted file that we cannot delete on the old >hard drive. I hide under the bed when I hear ugly sounds coming from the >computer room. > >Dennis Ugulano >email: Uggies@compuserve.com >http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies >Page Revised 3/26/99 > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 20:22:40 -0500 From: "Robert M. Farrar" To: Subject: Re: Blue Max new releases Message-ID: <004f01be99ba$70df4600$962e88cf@rmf> Well, How about ALL of us e-mailing Chris Gannon to tell him what we think? Vac's are one thing but injection is another...especially since we know what Pegasus, B M, can do! Bob p.s. I lost CG's e-mail, send it to me and I'll write! -----Original Message----- From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 7:41 PM Subject: Re: Blue Max new releases >Spent an enjoyable afternoon at Chino today with David Hannant, in-country on >vacation and visiting air museuems and such. My a2a session with the >Museum's SBD was cut short by an in-flight emergency when they lost >hydraulics. It was a tense moment or ten pumping down the gear, but the >world's population of operational Dauntlesses has not been reduced by >one-third. > >Anyway, David had brought along some goodies, and among them were yet another >Roland C.II and the new SE.5a. > >This Roland kit did not have the wing ripple. Nice to know, and at the same >time more frustrating, since I really don't think a modeler should have to >pay $50 for something where they open the box with a sense of dread at what >may lurk within. This question of quality control really needs to be brought >up to BM, and since the members of this list constitute a not-inconsiderable >percentage of total sales from a production run of 1500, perhaps some sort of >concentrated effort might have a result. >I mean, if Eduard can conquer this problem, what is BM's problem?? > >The SE.5a: quality up there with the Camel and Bristol fighter as regards >surface detail. Wing ripple only found on underside of lower wings, and not >so bad that one could probably get away with leaving it alone and letting it >hide under a coat of paint. Decals for James McCudden, 56 Squadron, 1917, >and Elliot White Springs, 85 Squadron, 1918. Worth the effort, tho one will >need some heavy-gauge sand paper to thin the fuselage halves in the vicinity >of the cockpit, which will likely mean scratchbuilding the bits of decking >inside the cockpit. The Vickers machine gun looks OK, but I would replace >the Lewis with an Aeroclub Lewis gun. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 18:30:59 -0700 From: David Kinnear To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OT Politics. was Re: Eduard new releases Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19990508183059.007ea3a0@danube.cisco.com> Actually, on the way back from the work office party last year, I swear I saw a revolver running across the parking lot shouting something about having bare arms. I've had the misfortune to be in the same room when talk shows are on and, living in California, thought that this is probably normal. David CFC At 09:07 PM 5/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >Will gladly be a butt...it IS a question of RIGHTS. ALL Guns are INANIMATE >objects. iod. >You all know the rest of the old saw. >PERIOD. >Bob >p.s. NRA Life Member >pee.ess.ess. >Anyone on the list in the DFW area (or elsewhere) who is not sure, or would >like to go shoot, contact me. I won't mention this again unless provoked.:-) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ernest Thomas >To: Multiple recipients of list >Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 6:14 PM >Subject: Re: OT Politics. was Re: Eduard new releases > > >>David & Carol Fletcher wrote: >> >>> If we continue at this level, our American friends will be debating >>> their right to mount twin Spandaus on hood of their VW New Beetles. >> >>It's not a question of rights. It's a matter of practicabilty. They >>mount so much easier in the old Beetles. :) >>E. >> > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 20:27:23 -0500 From: "Robert M. Farrar" To: Subject: Re: Blue Max new releases Message-ID: <006401be99bb$1993c000$962e88cf@rmf> List, Please describe what the RIPPLE looks like....gettin' paraniod. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 7:41 PM Subject: Re: Blue Max new releases >Spent an enjoyable afternoon at Chino today with David Hannant, in-country on >vacation and visiting air museuems and such. My a2a session with the >Museum's SBD was cut short by an in-flight emergency when they lost >hydraulics. It was a tense moment or ten pumping down the gear, but the >world's population of operational Dauntlesses has not been reduced by >one-third. > >Anyway, David had brought along some goodies, and among them were yet another >Roland C.II and the new SE.5a. > >This Roland kit did not have the wing ripple. Nice to know, and at the same >time more frustrating, since I really don't think a modeler should have to >pay $50 for something where they open the box with a sense of dread at what >may lurk within. This question of quality control really needs to be brought >up to BM, and since the members of this list constitute a not-inconsiderable >percentage of total sales from a production run of 1500, perhaps some sort of >concentrated effort might have a result. >I mean, if Eduard can conquer this problem, what is BM's problem?? > >The SE.5a: quality up there with the Camel and Bristol fighter as regards >surface detail. Wing ripple only found on underside of lower wings, and not >so bad that one could probably get away with leaving it alone and letting it >hide under a coat of paint. Decals for James McCudden, 56 Squadron, 1917, >and Elliot White Springs, 85 Squadron, 1918. Worth the effort, tho one will >need some heavy-gauge sand paper to thin the fuselage halves in the vicinity >of the cockpit, which will likely mean scratchbuilding the bits of decking >inside the cockpit. The Vickers machine gun looks OK, but I would replace >the Lewis with an Aeroclub Lewis gun. > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1570 **********************