WWI Digest 1562 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: List Newbie, etc. by Dennis Ugulano 2) Re: List Newbie, etc. by "Robert M. Farrar" 3) Re: Rogues Gallery by Allan Wright 4) Re: List Newbie, etc. by "Mike" 5) Rogues Gallery by Allan Wright 6) German Aircraft Designations by "Sandy Adam" 7) Admin test by Allan Wright 8) Re: Another one bites the dust by "Mark Shanks" 9) RE: Another one bites the dust by "Diego Fernetti" 10) Re: Another one bites the dust by "Sandy Adam" 11) Re: Blue Max Walfisch by Albatrosdv@aol.com 12) Re: Blue Max Walfisch by Albatrosdv@aol.com 13) Re: Blue Max Walfisch by Albatrosdv@aol.com 14) RE: Blue Max Walfisch by "Diego Fernetti" 15) Re: Another one bites the dust by "Bill Neill" 16) Re: Another one bites the dust by peter crow 17) Re: Rogues Gallery by KarrArt@aol.com 18) Re: German Aircraft Designations by KarrArt@aol.com 19) Re: List Newbie, etc. by KarrArt@aol.com 20) Re: Rogues Gallery by Albatrosdv@aol.com 21) Re: List Newbie, etc. by Albatrosdv@aol.com 22) Re: Rogues Gallery by KarrArt@aol.com 23) Re: Rogues Gallery by mkendix 24) Re: Rogues Gallery by David_Zulis@wsib.on.ca 25) Re: Rogues Gallery by "cameron rile" 26) Re: List Newbie, etc. by "Robert M. Farrar" 27) Re: Rogues Gallery by KarrArt@aol.com 28) Re: Rogues Gallery by KarrArt@aol.com 29) Re: Cartoons WAS Re: Rogues Gallery by "David Vosburgh" 30) Re: Cartoons WAS Re: Rogues Gallery by David_Zulis@wsib.on.ca 31) Re: Another one bites the dust by "Robert M. Farrar" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 08:44:54 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: List Newbie, etc. Message-ID: <199905050844_MC2-7493-7CE6@compuserve.com> Hi Bob, Just got back from a computer upgrade so I missed a few days. So a belated welcome to the group from someone who showed up only in February of this year. In that short period I have increased my knowledge of WW1 more than I can imagine, Any questions, just ask. Then jump back and wait for the response. For my information, what scale do you build in? We have quite a rivalry between 1/72 and 1/48, all in good nature of course. Right Everyone? Just fun? Right? Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 3/26/99 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 07:51:51 -0500 From: "Robert M. Farrar" To: Subject: Re: List Newbie, etc. Message-ID: <000601be96f6$0d839140$3d3288cf@rmf> Hi Dennis, I prefer 1/72 but the 1/48 is talkin' to me! -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Ugulano To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 7:49 AM Subject: Re: List Newbie, etc. >Hi Bob, > > Just got back from a computer upgrade so I missed a few days. So a >belated welcome to the group from someone who showed up only in February of >this year. In that short period I have increased my knowledge of WW1 more >than I can imagine, Any questions, just ask. Then jump back and wait for >the response. > For my information, what scale do you build in? We have quite a >rivalry between 1/72 and 1/48, all in good nature of course. Right >Everyone? Just fun? Right? > >Dennis Ugulano >email: Uggies@compuserve.com >http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies >Page Revised 3/26/99 > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:00:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rogues Gallery Message-ID: <199905051300.JAA12060@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > He's rubbing his hands like > > Dirk Dastardly in the Dudly Doright cartoons...... > > Beg pardon - the villan in Dudley Doright was Snidely Whiplash. Oops! What a Faux Pas! Sorry! What cartoon was Dirk Dastardly from? Oh yeah - he was in the Hannah Barbara stuff..... Back to WWI content now.... =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 06:08:52 -0700 From: "Mike" To: Subject: Re: List Newbie, etc. Message-ID: <005401be96f8$6d48dca0$b08c3ace@default> Welcome to our little group of crazies....where do you hail from? Greetings fromt he great Northwest of the USA Mike Dicianna > Dear listvolk, > I had no clue that WW1 was so well supported. I have built, collected, etc. > for years but > decided that since more and better is now availiable, the early stuff is for > me. > Thanks for the list, > Bob Farrar > ps > Real airplanes have at least 1 radial (ok ok inline and vee too) engine and > drag their butts:-) > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:14:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Rogues Gallery Message-ID: <199905051314.JAA12266@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Thanks to all who sent me photos overnight. The gallery is up to 9 photos. I guess we're not a shy bunch. Looks like I have to bring a camera with me next time I go to Rienbeck. Most of you have photos of yourselves in front of airplanes - go figure! -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:35:00 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: German Aircraft Designations Message-ID: <015201be9704$940261c0$38e8b094@sandyada> Just had a chance to read Tom's piece on Al's site. Without wishing to fall out with him - I am moved by his comments about exactitude. Once Idflieg established type designations, they chose mnemonics that would readily convey the purpose of the aeroplane. Thus G for Grossflugzeug, R for Riesienflugzeug etc. This did not however progress logically through the single letter alphabet and this explains the gaps in the alphabet and use of classes such as Dr for Dreidecker (note spelling). Whether D- and E-types meant Doppeldeckers (note spelling) and Eindeckers (sp) or a continuation of the earlier Type A, B, C etc seems totally pointless to me - the fact is that these type-classifications fulfilled both requirements anyway. A fact that would have been very obvious to all at the time. Tom says there is "a breakdown in clear Teutonic thinking ..(in) calling a TWO wing airplane Dopple instead of the logical, numeric Zwi (two)?" Well, that there may be - but I'm afraid Doppeldecker (sp) is the correct German term for a biplane. And exactly this explains why a D-type has become universally known as a Doppeldecker. (Zweidecker (note spelling) would have roughly the same meaning as "two-winger" in English -which you might use occasionally but is more propely expressed as "biplane") So, in the spirit of exactitude, lets not have sweeping statements that D for Doppeldecker is wrong. It is not. D is definitely and unarguably for D-type - but with a system that classes a machine as a G-type because it is a Grossflugzeug - or an N-type because it is a Nachteinsaetzer, who is seriously going to tell me that Idflieg did not feel that D-type very neatly fitted for a Doppeldecker einsaetzer? Oh yes - the Razor. It started life as an E-type then became a D-type. So what:? This is an anomaly - but there were other anomalies. C-types were used extensively as unarmed trainers - but were not re-classified as B-types. Tom's description of Idflieg classifications will be very useful to newcomers - but a bit one-sided, I think, regarding D-types. Perhaps he would not mind adding a line to say that this is his personal opinion and that there are other views on the subject? Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 10:55:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Admin test Message-ID: <199905051455.KAA12955@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Hello all, Please ignore this message. I did some housekeeping and I want to make sure I didn't break anything. -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 08:19:29 -0700 From: "Mark Shanks" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust Message-ID: <199905051520.IAA08102@elvis.fltdyn.com> Mike Muth writes: > Sometimes, I just feel like crying. Was trying to attach the top > wing to the Dutch Strutter...slips out of my hand....smashes into too > many piece. Much wailing and gnashing of teeth. Oh well, maybe I can > keep the Hanriot in one piece. Ohhhhhhhhhh..................... I've had similar experiences. Once caught an off-topic model, well-hollowed out with cockpit, panels opened, etc, between my knees when it slipped from my fingers. Fast reflexes - smashed model...... Take two shots of Tullamore Dew and look at it again in the morning..... Mark mshanks@fltdyn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:36:02 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Another one bites the dust Message-ID: <000f01be970c$fc183840$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> -----Mensaje original----- De: bucky@ptdprolog.net > Thanks to all who commented over the fate of the Dutch Strutter. I >may well pick it up again after a loooong break working on other things. >Back to the Hanriot. >Mike Muth > Beware! if you take a break toooooo long, you'll end haunted by the guilty thought of fixing the strutter instead of doing anything you are doing at that time. And that kind of feeling takes out all the fun of it. As someone well known for all of us said once: "Never turn your back and try to run away from an enemy fighter". It seems to be appropiate in this case. Dictum #6 don't apply here so well ;-) D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 16:51:01 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust Message-ID: <017601be970f$15513620$38e8b094@sandyada> >> Sometimes, I just feel like crying. Was trying to attach the top >> wing to the Dutch Strutter...slips out of my hand....smashes into too >> many piece. Much wailing and gnashing of teeth. Oh well, maybe I can >> keep the Hanriot in one piece. Take Heart Mike - we've probably all been there. I did it just a week or so back with one of my Camels (six months work) which I was trying to get ready to show at the Nationals here. Midnight. I had the top wing attached to the cabane struts and had rigged all round these with mono thread. I was about to start interplane struts when it slipped....... Just like the real F.1 Camel the 1/48 BM has a heavy engine right in the nose. It did an alarmingly realistic stall and crashed upside down on the workbench. Four brass struts fired out and the top wing stayed attached by the tensioned thread. What a mess! I called it a day (well, with a few expletive adjectives added) and thought about whether the 2F.1 could be readied in time. Next evening I carefully jigged up the wing and popped the struts in. A few drops of CA, some paint touch-up and - good as new! So, take a break, try something else maybe for a bit, then have another look. Good Luck! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 11:57:01 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Blue Max Walfisch Message-ID: <9230ed00.2461c44d@aol.com> In a message dated 99-05-05 06:25:54 EDT, you write: << Hi Tom Tell me, tell me, tell me, Does this kit have a decent interior detailing? Floorboards, structure, radio equipment, inst. panel, etc.? I >> It's there, but there Blue Max style, which means a bit of work - but a lot less than eensy-weensy scale. Come....come young master...join us on the dark side.... Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:00:24 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Blue Max Walfisch Message-ID: <805a9e13.2461c518@aol.com> In a message dated 99-05-05 06:32:32 EDT, you write: << Bummer. My only question is has anybody contacted Gannon and told him about this? Maybe - just maybe - he doesn't know about it. >> I have spoken to Gannon personally (by e-mail) about this a couple of times, without getting much of a positive response to it. And I did it politely. Those others who might wish to say something could do so with this address: chris@pegasusmodels.com I would say if there is a tone to be taken, it is how much everyone likes his work and subject matter choices, and how this problem - which has nothing to do with the work of his designs - makes that work almost for nought. Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:01:36 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Blue Max Walfisch Message-ID: <59ac7717.2461c560@aol.com> In a message dated 99-05-05 06:34:32 EDT, you write: << Don't forget, Flashback/Eduard has announced an Albatros D.V and Fokker Dr.I... :-) Matt Bittner >> Come, come young master...join us on the dark side...your eyes will fail too, someday. Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 13:10:39 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Blue Max Walfisch Message-ID: <000801be9711$d1781a60$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> For all the moons of Endor! if I haven't seen your portrait I would have swear that your face were covered with a black metal mask... D. -----Mensaje original----- De: Albatrosdv@aol.com Para: Multiple recipients of list Fecha: Miércoles 5 de Mayo de 1999 1:16 PM Asunto: Re: Blue Max Walfisch >In a message dated 99-05-05 06:34:32 EDT, you write: > ><< > Don't forget, Flashback/Eduard has announced an Albatros D.V and Fokker > Dr.I... :-) > > > Matt Bittner > >> >Come, come young master...join us on the dark side...your eyes will fail too, >someday. > >Tom C > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:10:47 -0700 From: "Bill Neill" To: Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust Message-ID: <002d01be9712$ccbe9480$7d38c0d8@bill> Isaac Newton was always the enemy of the aviator. I spend so much time looking for stuff on the floor that I have seriously thought of wearing one of those baby bibs with the food catcher bit at the bottom. Maybe one of those trays that ice cream and cigarette sellers used to have slung around the neck, with parts being worked on in it. Could then carry on modelling while eating, walking around, etc. Bill Neill > Mike Muth writes: > > > Sometimes, I just feel like crying. Was trying to attach the top > > wing to the Dutch Strutter...slips out of my hand....smashes into too > > many piece. Much wailing and gnashing of teeth. Oh well, maybe I can > > keep the Hanriot in one piece. > > Ohhhhhhhhhh..................... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:54:34 -0700 (PDT) From: peter crow To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust Message-ID: <19990505165434.14736.rocketmail@web706.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bill Neill wrote: > Isaac Newton was always the enemy of the aviator. > I spend so much time looking for stuff on the floor > that I have seriously > thought of wearing one of those baby bibs with the > food catcher bit at the > bottom. I actually do something along those lines.. have an old white pillow case that I've gotten into the habit of keeping in my lap.. While it doesn't catch everything, its caught enough... P. Crow _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 13:24:56 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rogues Gallery Message-ID: <107b4a9.2461d8e8@aol.com> In a message dated 5/5/99 6:02:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, aew@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: << > He's rubbing his hands like > > Dirk Dastardly in the Dudly Doright cartoons...... > > Beg pardon - the villan in Dudley Doright was Snidely Whiplash. Oops! What a Faux Pas! Sorry! What cartoon was Dirk Dastardly from? Oh yeah - he was in the Hannah Barbara stuff..... Back to WWI content now.... ==================== >> Well, vaguely on-topic- I've got an old plastic toy doo-dad that came out of of a cereal box. It's some kind of strange villianous cartoon character flying a highly scallop-wing biplane. Mustache, scarf, sneering- it's from a cartoon show, but I can't remember which one. The guy may have had a dog. What is it? Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 13:24:58 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: German Aircraft Designations Message-ID: In a message dated 5/5/99 7:36:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, cbbs@almac.co.uk writes: << Oh yes - the Razor. It started life as an E-type then became a D-type. So what:? This is an anomaly - but there were other anomalies. C-types were used extensively as unarmed trainers - but were not re-classified as B-types. >> I've wondered about Fokker's later products- D XXI and C V and such. Did the Dutch company just carry over the old WW I German system? Did "D" just become an arbitrary designation for fighter, and "C" standing for two seater? Any continuity here? Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 13:24:55 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: List Newbie, etc. Message-ID: <5d8658ab.2461d8e7@aol.com> In a message dated 5/5/99 5:47:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Uggies@compuserve.com writes: << For my information, what scale do you build in? We have quite a rivalry between 1/72 and 1/48, all in good nature of course. Right Everyone? Just fun? Right? Dennis Ugulano >> The 1/32 and 1/28 guys and large scale R/C folks are laughing! Yes, welcome Bob! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 13:29:35 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rogues Gallery Message-ID: <922f78de.2461d9ff@aol.com> In a message dated 99-05-05 13:26:56 EDT, you write: << Well, vaguely on-topic- I've got an old plastic toy doo-dad that came out of of a cereal box. It's some kind of strange villianous cartoon character flying a highly scallop-wing biplane. Mustache, scarf, sneering- it's from a cartoon show, but I can't remember which one. The guy may have had a dog. What is it? Robert K. >> "Curse You, Red Baron!" screamed Snoopy has his sopwith Camel spiraled down... I cannot believe an American of your age, living in the media capital of the planet, could have forgotten this one... :-) Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 13:31:31 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: List Newbie, etc. Message-ID: In a message dated 99-05-05 13:29:35 EDT, you write: << We have quite a rivalry between 1/72 and 1/48, all in good nature of course. Right Everyone? Just fun? Right? >> Ve haff vays of dealink mit schmartmoutzes like yoo. Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 13:37:46 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rogues Gallery Message-ID: In a message dated 5/5/99 10:32:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Albatrosdv@aol.com writes: << << Well, vaguely on-topic- I've got an old plastic toy doo-dad that came out of of a cereal box. It's some kind of strange villianous cartoon character flying a highly scallop-wing biplane. Mustache, scarf, sneering- it's from a cartoon show, but I can't remember which one. The guy may have had a dog. What is it? Robert K. >> "Curse You, Red Baron!" screamed Snoopy has his sopwith Camel spiraled down... I cannot believe an American of your age, living in the media capital of the planet, could have forgotten this one... :-) Tom C >> No- that's not it- this is from one the really cheesy early 70s Saturday morning shows. I think the premise was somekind of race every week. Horrible thing, bad "animation". This will eat my brain all day now! Robert K. BTW, being the kind who never throws anything away, I've got an old article around here somewhere from Model Airplane News about building an R/C flying model of Sn*****'s doghouse. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 14:21:10 -0400 (EDT) From: mkendix To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rogues Gallery Message-ID: On Wed, 5 May 1999 KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > << Well, vaguely on-topic- I've got an old plastic toy doo-dad that came out > of > of a cereal box. It's some kind of strange villianous cartoon character > flying a highly scallop-wing biplane. Mustache, scarf, sneering- it's from > a > cartoon show, but I can't remember which one. The guy may have had a dog. > What is it? > Robert K. > >> This sounds a lot like the cartoon featuring Dick Dastardly (not Dirk) and his sidekick, Mutley the dog. The theme tune was something like "Catch that pigeon, catch that pigeon,..(repeated ad nauseum)" and these two had a couple of oddball associates with their own flying machines. One of these was called Tilly(?) who was always scared and another, whose name escapes me, spoke in what I believed then to be Texan (I know better now of course), and his every word had to be translated. This foursome's mission was to stop this sickeningly cute carrier pigeon from getting his messages through; their attempts consisted of using ridiculous mechanical inventions designed to capture the pigeon in an absurd manner as possible. Dastardly would occasionally award Mutley medals for good deeds and rip them off his chest again for misdeeds. The programme appeared in Britain around 1970 so it was probably in the U.S a little earlier. HTH (although it probably doesn't). Michael mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 13:42:08 -0400 From: David_Zulis@wsib.on.ca To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rogues Gallery Message-ID: <85256768.0060CDCF.00@Notes.Server5.wcb.on.ca> << Well, vaguely on-topic- I've got an old plastic toy doo-dad that came out of of a cereal box. It's some kind of strange villianous cartoon character flying a highly scallop-wing biplane. Mustache, scarf, sneering- it's from a cartoon show, but I can't remember which one. The guy may have had a dog. What is it? Robert K. >> "Curse You, Red Baron!" screamed Snoopy has his sopwith Camel spiraled down... I cannot believe an American of your age, living in the media capital of the planet, could have forgotten this one... :-) Tom C >> Actually, Tom - I am pretty certain this isnt Snoopy from Peanuts. I am almost embarassed to admit I recall having seen a show on Saturday mornings which is a sort of cartoon race. I wasnt going to say anything because I dont remember the details, but I remember the dog which Robert mentioned had an evil snicker which I rather liked. I cant believe I am sitting at work thinking about this.... :-) Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 14:56:02 -0300 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rogues Gallery Message-ID: <199905051159093@cameron.prontomail.com> >Actually, Tom - I am pretty certain this isnt Snoopy from Peanuts. >I am almost embarassed to admit I recall having seen a show on >Saturday mornings which is a sort of cartoon race. Yeh had Penelope Pitstop, the Chicago Mob ( which is what the Chicago AFL team is called ), Dick Dastardly, Muttley, The Arkansas Buzzsaws? I think the cartoon was called the "Wacky Races" or Racers I also think Muttley proved popular enough to get his own show. cam AFC page at : http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm RB2 page at : http://members.xoom.com/artattack/index.htm ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 13:41:31 -0500 From: "Robert M. Farrar" To: Subject: Re: List Newbie, etc. Message-ID: <002301be9729$f826d3a0$371d88cf@rmf> Mesquite (Dallas) Texas Bob -----Original Message----- From: Mike To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 8:13 AM Subject: Re: List Newbie, etc. >Welcome to our little group of crazies....where do you hail from? > >Greetings fromt he great Northwest of the USA > >Mike Dicianna > > > >> Dear listvolk, >> I had no clue that WW1 was so well supported. I have built, collected, >etc. >> for years but >> decided that since more and better is now availiable, the early stuff is >for >> me. >> Thanks for the list, >> Bob Farrar >> ps >> Real airplanes have at least 1 radial (ok ok inline and vee too) engine >and >> drag their butts:-) >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:02:46 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rogues Gallery Message-ID: <35a5a92b.2461efd6@aol.com> In a message dated 5/5/99 11:31:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu writes: << The theme tune was something like "Catch that pigeon, catch that pigeon,..(repeated ad nauseum)" and these two had a couple of oddball associates with their own flying machines. One of these was called Tilly(?) who was always scared and another, whose name escapes me, spoke in what I believed then to be Texan (I know better now of course), and his every word had to be translated. This foursome's mission was to stop this sickeningly cute carrier pigeon from getting his messages through; their attempts consisted of using ridiculous mechanical inventions designed to capture the pigeon in an absurd manner as possible. Dastardly would occasionally award Mutley medals for good deeds and rip them off his chest again for misdeeds. The programme appeared in Britain around 1970 so it was probably in the U.S a little earlier. HTH (although it probably doesn't). Michael >> Yep- I believe you've tagged it! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:02:45 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rogues Gallery Message-ID: <317c7427.2461efd5@aol.com> In a message dated 5/5/99 11:37:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, David_Zulis@wsib.on.ca writes: << I wasnt going to say anything because I dont remember the details, but I remember the dog which Robert mentioned had an evil snicker which I rather liked. I cant believe I am sitting at work thinking about this.... :-) Dave Z >> The little toy itself is neat, and well molded in styrene with about 4-5 pieces that snapped together. The airplane is a vague charicature of an Albatros. The dog snicker rings a bell- I you've got it! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:20:10 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Cartoons WAS Re: Rogues Gallery Message-ID: <004201be972c$60a2f4c0$8bd690d0@Pvosburg> -----Original Message----- From: KarrArt@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 2:15 PM Subject: Re: Rogues Gallery > No- that's not it- this is from one the really cheesy early 70s Saturday >morning shows. I think the premise was somekind of race every week. Horrible >thing, bad "animation". This will eat my brain all day now! >Robert K. Does "Wacky Racers" ring any bells, or am I thinking of something else? I seem to remember a girl in a pink car too (funny that should stick in my mind. Even at that age, I guess...). I suspect it was a poor rip-off of "The Great Race" --- still one of my favorite movies --- and the bad guy seemed to be loosely based on Professor Fate. Remember his acoustical homing torpedo? The dog resurfaced in a number of HB cartoons. Had a name like "Snivelly" or something like that, didn't he? His snicker sounded like somebody repeatedly squeezing a turkey baster really fast... DV ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:44:14 -0400 From: David_Zulis@wsib.on.ca To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cartoons WAS Re: Rogues Gallery Message-ID: <85256768.006B5F75.00@Notes.Server5.wcb.on.ca> I was just thinking. Conversations like these must make the people at Eduard and Pegasus crazy. Here is RK saying good things about a 5-piece snap-together cartoon character's airplane which only vaguely resembles an Albatros. Of course, it is all a matter of context, but it must leave them shaking their heads all the same. Now here is an idea for the list. Next time some cereal company makes a small freebie like this, or something similar becomes available elsewhere, we should scoop up about 30 of them, distribute them to list members who are interested, and compare what they can make out of them. They might make nice companion pics to the rogues' gallery. Really must get some work done here.... Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 14:56:05 -0500 From: "Robert M. Farrar" To: Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust Message-ID: <006701be9731$65f1f520$371d88cf@rmf> Boy do I know about repairs! I have a 10 year old Lockheed PV-1 Ventura (WW2) in 1/72 that has had the antenna rigging repaired-replaced at least 4 times.Not nearly as complex as WW1 stuff, but the average person apparently has no idea of the time and work involved. For what it's worth I use stretched sprue (because it can be BENT; unlike monofilament) and white glue (cleans up w/ water...easily removeable). Also I have a spare Pegasus Ansaldo SVA5...any trades? Bob -----Original Message----- From: Diego Fernetti To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 10:40 AM Subject: RE: Another one bites the dust >-----Mensaje original----- >De: bucky@ptdprolog.net > >> Thanks to all who commented over the fate of the Dutch Strutter. I >>may well pick it up again after a loooong break working on other things. >>Back to the Hanriot. >>Mike Muth >> > >Beware! if you take a break toooooo long, you'll end haunted by the guilty >thought of fixing the strutter instead of doing anything you are doing at >that time. And that kind of feeling takes out all the fun of it. As someone >well known for all of us said once: "Never turn your back and try to run >away from an enemy fighter". It seems to be appropiate in this case. Dictum >#6 don't apply here so well ;-) >D. > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1562 **********************