WWI Digest 1553 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow by "richard eaton" 2) Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow by "roguerpj" 3) RE: Albatros D.III Colors by "Chris Banyai-Riepl" 4) Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow by "Mike" 5) RE: the Dragodile revisited by "Robert Woodbury" 6) Morane Parasol to Pfalz E.III by "Robert Woodbury" 7) Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow by bucky@ptdprolog.net 8) Going down by Dennis Ugulano 9) Re: Morane Parasol to Pfalz E.III by Bob Pearson 10) Re: Control Horns by "David Vosburgh" 11) RE: For Allan is a jolly good fellow by Shane Weier 12) Horn Dilemma by "David Vosburgh" 13) Re: Horn Dilemma by "Steven M. Perry" 14) Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow by Ernest Thomas 15) Cyranno's a Spaniard? was Re: Control Horns by Ernest Thomas 16) Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow by Matthew E Bittner 17) Re: Control Horns by Matthew E Bittner 18) Re: Horn Dilemma by Matthew E Bittner 19) Re: Cyranno's a Spaniard? was Re: Control Horns by "David Vosburgh" 20) Re: Horn Dilemma by "David Vosburgh" 21) Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow by Carlos Valdes 22) Re: White/Elemers glue (was: What's on your work bench?) by "Eli Geher" 23) Re: Control Horns by KarrArt@aol.com 24) Re: White/Elemers glue (was: What's on your work bench?) by KarrArt@aol.com 25) Re: Control Horns by KarrArt@aol.com 26) Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow by KarrArt@aol.com 27) Re: White/Elemers glue (was: What's on your work bench?) by KarrArt@aol.com 28) Re: Albatros D.III Colors by KarrArt@aol.com 29) Re: White/Elemers glue (was: What's on your work bench?) by KarrArt@aol.com 30) Re: wood grain redux by KarrArt@aol.com 31) Re: White/Elemers glue (was: What's on your work bench?) by KarrArt@aol.com 32) Re: Albatros D.III Colors by KarrArt@aol.com 33) Re: Control Horns by KarrArt@aol.com 34) Re: White/Elemers glue (was: What's on your work bench?) by KarrArt@aol.com 35) Re: penlight people/ by KarrArt@aol.com 36) RE: wood grain redux by Shane Weier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:16:04 -0500 From: "richard eaton" To: Subject: Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow Message-ID: <199904282324.SAA08096@sierra.onr.com> A toast to our illustrious host and Steven (who just sent me two great shots of his BE2a) too! Great job guys! Regards, Richard ---------- > From: Steven M. Perry > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow > Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 5:50 PM > > > >Thanks again for your time efforts and generous dedication. We all owe > >you a huge round. > > Here Here! > A sincere thanks from me! > sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:00:16 -0500 From: "roguerpj" To: Subject: Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow Message-ID: <015101be91d3$4405a460$05f99ed0@robjohn.swdata.com> Salute!!!!!!!!! And thanks. rob -----Original Message----- From: richard eaton To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 6:27 PM Subject: Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow >A toast to our illustrious host and Steven (who just sent me >two great shots of his BE2a) too! Great job guys! > >Regards, > >Richard > >---------- >> From: Steven M. Perry >> To: Multiple recipients of list >> Subject: Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow >> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 5:50 PM >> >> >> >Thanks again for your time efforts and generous dedication. We all owe >> >you a huge round. >> >> Here Here! >> A sincere thanks from me! >> sp > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:04:24 -0700 From: "Chris Banyai-Riepl" To: Subject: RE: Albatros D.III Colors Message-ID: <000101be91d3$d717f0f0$6e5a33d1@ntworkstation> << Though perhaps not always - there are still books being published which regurgitate old info without any critical assesment of it and disregarding (or unaware) of later research. >> As always, there are two sides to every story. In my contacts with Hall Park Books, this very issue came up. It seems that Hall Park Books repeatedly contacted the site webmaster asking about the pictures and permission to use them. At the same time, an attorney was asked about the copyright issue regarding online images and their usage. There was no replies from the webmaster and the attorney came back with the phrase "public domain", so the pictures were used. The current copyright law regarding the Internet, to the best of my knowledge, is only on the US lawbooks, and isn't international. Other countries are working on getting the Internet included into their lawbooks as far as copyright goes, but it isn't in place yet. To the best of their knowledge, Hall Park did everything they could, and when they got what they thought was an official word that it was public domain, they used the photos. Now that they know the current law as it sits on US lawbooks, they are abiding by it, even though technically there is a loophole they can use to get by it. The quality of research put into the Warpaint books is like any other series. Some are really, really good, while others are merely OK. The amount of information presented and the types covered, though, is on average quite good and overall well worth the money. Now to return to the world of on-topic material, I thought I would announce to the world that my Flashback Strutter is 98% done! Yessiree folks, that is true! I have another model almost done! And on-topic to boot! I didn't have the strut problems that Matt had, luckily. I think that was because I started that little bit of work several hours after my morning coffee, and well before my bedtime. Well rested, past the morning coffee jitters. I glued the W struts to the upper wing first with CA gel, then while those were slowly drying I set the wing on top of the fuselage and moved it around until the struts were at the right angle to everything. The wing stayed in place while the CA dried, at which point I tacked the struts onto the fuselage with CA and put the rest of the struts in. Went pretty quickly, really, and once I got it rigged it was strong enough for my 2yr old to stand on. OK, maybe not, but it's still pretty sturdy. :-) Chris Banyai-Riepl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:04:37 -0700 From: "Mike" To: Subject: Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow Message-ID: <000c01be91d3$dff11bc0$ca8c3ace@default> >From one who has found a wealth of new friends from around the world, Thank you Allan! Mike Dicianna ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:45:38 +0800 From: "Robert Woodbury" To: Subject: RE: the Dragodile revisited Message-ID: <000001be91d9$99ec8d20$91107482@per.clw.csiro.au> Bob wrote: > > Speaking of updated. . can someone please tell me if/how Rimell's new > painting of Albatros C.III 766/16 in the updated C.III datafile > differs from > mine on the rear cover of OTF 12/2 .. I still haven't seen his take on it. > Bob, I received the new Dataflie a few weeks back- it's really amazing, I almost thought that your paintings had been used in the Datafile- of course it's a little difficult to judge because of the small size of the datafile drawings. But, they look the same to me. Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:52:56 +0800 From: "Robert Woodbury" To: Subject: Morane Parasol to Pfalz E.III Message-ID: <000101be91da$9e94c300$91107482@per.clw.csiro.au> Hi All, It looks like the Morane Parasol is a popular topic this month, I picked one up at a club meeting last night with the intention of converting it to a Pfalz E.III. My references are limited to a 1:144 drawing of the type which appears identical to the Morane. Is this really the case? How difficult is the conversion? I've also put the finishing touches to my Eduard/Paschendaele Alb D.II model. WWI model number three finished and I'm really happy with the results. Lots of nice comments from the other guys too which is great. Cheers, Rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:05:23 -0400 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow Message-ID: <3727B053.328E5712@ptdprolog.net> Well Said. Here, here. Ditto. etc. The other Mike Mike wrote: > >>From one who has found a wealth of new friends from around the world, > > Thank you Allan! > > Mike Dicianna ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:16:35 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Going down Message-ID: <199904282116_MC2-73C6-46AA@compuserve.com> All, It's my turn for a computer problems. As my wife says, its a 10 minute repair or a few days. Let's hope for the best. I will be back as soon as possible Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 3/26/99 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:23:55 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Morane Parasol to Pfalz E.III Message-ID: <199904290123.SAA24136@mail.rapidnet.net> Robert writes . . .. > It looks like the Morane Parasol is a popular topic this month, I picked one > up at a club meeting last night with the intention of converting it to a > Pfalz E.III. My references are limited to a 1:144 drawing of the type which > appears identical to the Morane. Is this really the case? How difficult is > the conversion? I was going to do some profiles of various Pfalz A&E types for FMP but Alan Durkota beat me to it :-( In all the photos I saw they they are identical. . at least down to the logo on the cowl. . the Pfalz has a Pfalz Logo instead of a MS one. There are photos of the Pfalz A and E types in the Morane Sauliner Type L Datafile. Regards, Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:28:19 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Control Horns Message-ID: <00c301be91df$9172b1a0$72d690d0@Pvosburg> -----Original Message----- From: Leonard Endy Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 10:43 PM Subject: Re: Control Horns I wrote: >>And don't anybody DARE tell me via a pair of 1:72 shackles >>fastened by a nut, bolt & split pin... To which Len replied: >CA - don't ask me to spell it....cyra...super-glue. I think it's actually "cyranno-acrylate"... it was invented by some Spaniard named Cyranno de Acrylate who used it to hold his enormous false nose in place after his real one got slammed in a window by some girl he'd been writing poems to. Seems she thought he was this other guy... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:19:15 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: For Allan is a jolly good fellow Message-ID: Pedro, > Please correct me if I'm wrong but The List must have turned 5 one of > these last days. Right Al? Well I've only been here for about 4 1/2 years so I'm not sure, but by Micks account it must be so. > > Thanks again for your time efforts and generous dedication. We all owe > you a huge round. I might as well add my thanks to this biannual and well deserved recurring thread, but I'd like to modify the sentiment slightly on the occasion of the probable 5th birthday. Alan is the heart of the list, and without him we'd not be here. But *all* the members comprise the "soul" of the list, and for this group of people to get along so well through all the existence of the list is a remarkable thing. In my wandering through the internet I've never come across a list, newsgroup or any other forum which works so well without any moderation except the rarest and mildest of admonitions from Al. I can remember very,very few moments of temper, and the few serious disagreements between members haven't blighted their or anyone elses friendships. For all of your efforts to support Al in this endeavour I suggest we lift our glasses to "The list, and the Listmaster"....and sing For we are jolly good (gender non-specific)fellows ! Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:42:49 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: Horn Dilemma Message-ID: <00c501be91e1$97807580$72d690d0@Pvosburg> Anyway, thank you all for the various suggestions. I got home today to find a pair of 1:72 Eduard Sopwiths in the mail (Baby and Schneider), both of which contain PE control horns. So now the question becomes whether to swipe some of those, or go ahead and make them out of shim stock? Styrene was the first thing I tried, but seemed too flimsy for my ham-fisted methods. Of course, I could always backdate the Schneider to the early wing-warping version and then I wouldn't need the aileron horns that came with that kit... DV ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:50:23 -0400 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Horn Dilemma Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990428215023.006acbfc@pop.mindspring.com> At 09:40 PM 4/28/99 -0400, you wrote: >Anyway, thank you all for the various suggestions. I got home today to find >a pair of 1:72 Eduard Sopwiths in the mail (Baby and Schneider), both of >which contain PE control horns. So now the question becomes whether to swipe >some of those, or go ahead and make them out of shim stock? Styrene was the >first thing I tried, but seemed too flimsy for my ham-fisted methods. > >Of course, I could always backdate the Schneider to the early wing-warping >version and then I wouldn't need the aileron horns that came with that >kit... > >DV IIRC, the Schnider came with a few extra horns. I was able to replace the odd lost one for several kits after I finished the Schnider. sp > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:50:32 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow Message-ID: <3727BAE8.4F99@bellsouth.net> > Mike wrote: > >From one who has found a wealth of new friends from around the world, > > Thank you Allan! Me too. :) E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:55:00 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Cyranno's a Spaniard? was Re: Control Horns Message-ID: <3727BBF4.1655@bellsouth.net> David Vosburgh wrote: > I think it's actually "cyranno-acrylate"... it was invented by some Spaniard > named Cyranno de Acrylate And now that you've pissed off the French folks on the list... :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:57:13 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow Message-ID: <19990428.210350.-833183.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:50:50 -0400 (EDT) "Steven M. Perry" writes: > > >Thanks again for your time efforts and generous dedication. We all > owe > >you a huge round. > > Here Here! > A sincere thanks from me! Add my voice, too! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:01:13 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Control Horns Message-ID: <19990428.210350.-833183.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:26:49 -0400 (EDT) "David Vosburgh" writes: > I think it's actually "cyranno-acrylate"... it was invented by some > Spaniard > named Cyranno de Acrylate who used it to hold his enormous false > nose in > place after his real one got slammed in a window by some girl he'd > been > writing poems to. Seems she thought he was this other guy... ROTFL!!!! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:04:44 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Horn Dilemma Message-ID: <19990428.210458.-833183.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:50:15 -0400 (EDT) "Steven M. Perry" writes: > IIRC, the Schnider came with a few extra horns. I was able to > replace the > odd lost one for several kits after I finished the Schnider. If you have the Flashback Strutter, there are at least *four* extra horns with that kit. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:09:45 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Cyranno's a Spaniard? was Re: Control Horns Message-ID: <00e601be91e5$5b151840$72d690d0@Pvosburg> Shoot... I was thinking of Don Quixote... but that's probably O.K. since Yves was our only Frenchman (n'est ce pas?) and last I heard from him he's gone digest and doesn't even have time to read those. DV -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 10:22 PM Subject: Cyranno's a Spaniard? was Re: Control Horns >David Vosburgh wrote: > >> I think it's actually "cyranno-acrylate"... it was invented by some Spaniard >> named Cyranno de Acrylate > >And now that you've pissed off the French folks on the list... >:) > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:12:49 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Horn Dilemma Message-ID: <00ed01be91e5$c8a753a0$72d690d0@Pvosburg> Thanks, Matt & Steven... This is great! Between the two kits it looks like I'm all set. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew E Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 10:27 PM Subject: Re: Horn Dilemma >On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:50:15 -0400 (EDT) "Steven M. Perry" > writes: > >> IIRC, the Schnider came with a few extra horns. I was able to >> replace the >> odd lost one for several kits after I finished the Schnider. > >If you have the Flashback Strutter, there are at least *four* extra horns >with that kit. > > >Matt Bittner > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:50:39 -0400 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow Message-ID: <3727C8FF.6329@conted.gatech.edu> > Thank you Allan! Double ditto. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:28:04 -0500 From: "Eli Geher" To: Subject: Re: White/Elemers glue (was: What's on your work bench?) Message-ID: <00b801be91f0$980e38c0$5a6086d0@eligeher> From: Bill Neill >My first (non flying) models were not even plastic. There were KielKraft >'solids', you got some wooden blocks of roughly the right shape, to whittle >and sand upon, and paper markings to cut out and stick on. I enjoyed them a >lot and was very proud of them! This struck a nerve! I've just returned from the kit storage room, where I fondled a 1950s vintage balsa kit of an off topic subject. It was by an outfit called CZ Models. I picked it up at a show in the '70s, purely for the nostalgia value. This was the way most of us got into this hobby back in the early postwar years. I wonder if I still have the skills to build one this way? Hmmm. Eli Geher ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:07:26 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Control Horns Message-ID: <5ec1de34.245934fe@aol.com> In a message dated 4/28/99 6:28:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dave@vga-graphics.com writes: << To which Len replied: >CA - don't ask me to spell it....cyra...super-glue. I think it's actually "cyranno-acrylate"... it was invented by some Spaniard named Cyranno de Acrylate who used it to hold his enormous false nose in place after his real one got slammed in a window by some girl he'd been writing poems to. Seems she thought he was this other guy... >> RATS! You beat me to it! RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:07:47 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: White/Elemers glue (was: What's on your work bench?) Message-ID: <2c6f63b3.24593513@aol.com> In a message dated 4/28/99 4:19:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > Yeah, and the crawl was uphill both ways! We didn't have x-acto knives- we > had to rip the parts from the sprue with our naked teeth. > Robert K. And the only plastic kit in existance was the Aroura Me-109. E. >> well....we DID have the Hawk Nieuport 17 and its instructions which told us to build it using carbon tetrachroride! RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:07:49 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Control Horns Message-ID: In a message dated 4/28/99 2:42:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, cbbs@almac.co.uk writes: << > What the hell is a combination wench anyway? > E. Well, "combinations" over here means the sort of long-sleeved and long-legged underwear that my grandfather used to wear. Now, just how you would use the wench when wearing the combies..... Sandy >> I'm not sure either, except it involves a hemostat, two bamboo skewers and some teflon tape.... Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:07:29 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: For Allan is a jolly good fellow Message-ID: <3d3524b2.24593501@aol.com> In a message dated 4/28/99 3:52:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, smperry@mindspring.com writes: << >Thanks again for your time efforts and generous dedication. We all owe >you a huge round. Here Here! A sincere thanks from me! sp >> yyyyyyyyyeeepp- same from here too! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:07:40 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: White/Elemers glue (was: What's on your work bench?) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/28/99 9:47:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Albatrosdv@aol.com writes: << I must admit, learning to find the airplane in the block of wood certainly made taking a razor saw to a plastic kit - no matter how expensive - an easy, easy task. Of course it helped that back then the cheap kits really were cheap enough one could screw up and not feel a need to recompute the national debt. Tom >> That may have been the best psycological training for deep conversions. Those old wooden kits taught you that the world didn't end if the knife ( or single edge razor blade0 went a bit squirrely, in my case, usually slicing the side of my thunb. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:07:53 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Albatros D.III Colors Message-ID: In a message dated 4/27/99 11:15:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Albatrosdv@aol.com writes: << I love to go to shows - how do you think I ever met the marvelous RK??? ...... Tom Cleaver >> Don't make me blush! But meeting other modelers is one of the benefits of hangin' out at contests. Not only did TC meet me at a contest, I met him! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:07:35 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: White/Elemers glue (was: What's on your work bench?) Message-ID: <95126733.24593507@aol.com> In a message dated 4/28/99 2:16:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << RK admits > we had to rip the parts from the sprue with our naked teeth. > Robert K. > It must be a comfort to know that tecnology has advanced far enough to save you from ripping the parts of with your gums now that your dotage is fast approaching :-) Shane >> Dotage has approached, landed, and moved on. I'm deep in the middle of my third childhood. Robert K.( relaxing after a hard day re-doing 2D Snipe wheels) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:07:52 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: wood grain redux Message-ID: <11eab7d3.24593518@aol.com> In a message dated 4/27/99 5:27:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, huggins@onramp.net writes: << You can try the local cigar shop. They normally have some of the wood tube liner scraps on hand. These are the thin wood sheets that are used to line the insides of the more expensive cigars. JPH >> It IS good stuff. I've got a few bits left in my little shoe box full of odd wood. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:07:45 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: White/Elemers glue (was: What's on your work bench?) Message-ID: <3ad046d3.24593511@aol.com> In a message dated 4/28/99 5:44:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Janah@worldnet.att.net writes: << > > Yeah, and the crawl was uphill both ways! We didn't have x-acto knives- we > had to rip the parts from the sprue with our naked teeth. > Robert K. Ha! No wonder so many of the group have sharp tongues! Cyg (who is only a little sorry for that.) >> The sharp tongues came from the decals we had to lick, printed on rocks. RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:07:35 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Albatros D.III Colors Message-ID: In a message dated 4/28/99 2:21:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << Though perhaps not always - there are still books being published which regurgitate old info without any critical assesment of it and disregarding (or unaware) of later research. Shane >> Platz anyone? Platz? RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:07:51 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Control Horns Message-ID: <6f831433.24593517@aol.com> In a message dated 4/27/99 7:21:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << Steven M. Perry wrote: > > Isn't that what RK uses to keep his little engineers happy? OH..you said > wrenches not wenches. What the hell is a combination wench anyway? E. >> one that'll take on any little Fokker....... sorry RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:07:42 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: White/Elemers glue (was: What's on your work bench?) Message-ID: <16b08a36.2459350e@aol.com> In a message dated 4/28/99 8:27:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, billneill@csi.com writes: << My first (non flying) models were not even plastic. There were KielKraft 'solids', you got some wooden blocks of roughly the right shape, to whittle and sand upon, and paper markings to cut out and stick on. I enjoyed them a lot and was very proud of them! Bill Neill >> Along about 1966, I discovered that little ground crew and pilots were waiting to be released from balsa blocks. Just hack away everything that wasn't needed! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:07:41 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: penlight people/ Message-ID: In a message dated 4/28/99 8:35:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Albatrosdv@aol.com writes: << My complaint wasn't about the judges. Most of them actually do/have built models. Tom >> Yeah, the penlight brigade seems to be mostly composed of lookers and theoretical proctologists who never really build. My experience has been that the judges, even the rare complete bozo, at least sink their teeth into real, genuine, minature doodad construction! The ones that scare me are the ones with the lights AND dental mirrors. Maybe they're hoping to one day luck out at a contest and find an accurately detailed build-up of the old Renwal Visible Woman kit. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:24:43 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: wood grain redux Message-ID: RK notes: > It IS good stuff. I've got a few bits left in my little shoe > box full of odd wood. The things people save stuff in.....and the garbage people (modellers anywise) save..... I don't have any "little" shoe boxes, but I use the ones my size 13's come in to store stuff. And the strong flat boxes comms equipment cards come in..and so on. Where would we all be if not for the other peoples junk Shane ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1553 **********************