WWI Digest 1530 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: off topic book request by bucky@ptdprolog.net 2) RE: Some new kits for 1999 by Shane Weier 3) Re: More stupid questions... by Suvoroff@aol.com 4) good book available by Eric Fisher 5) HR MoS L update by Matthew E Bittner 6) Re: good book available by Matthew Zivich 7) Re: Some new kits for 1999 by "richard eaton" 8) Is 'French Aeroplanes before the Great War' out? by "Charles and Linda Duckworth" 9) More N17 Q's ( stitching, metal and panels ) by "cameron rile" 10) Re: More N17 Q's ( stitching, metal and panels ) by Matthew E Bittner 11) Re: good book available by Eric Fisher 12) Re: Some new kits for 1999 by KarrArt@aol.com 13) (no subject) by "Lee J Mensinger" 14) Re: Is 'French Aeroplanes before the Great War' out? by "David Vosburgh" 15) Re: FW: Details, details by "Allan Wright" 16) Paasche AB wasRe: (no subject) by KarrArt@aol.com 17) RE: FW: Details, details by "Diego Fernetti" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:10:57 -0400 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: off topic book request Message-ID: <370D1B61.3FC85D34@ptdprolog.net> Thanks to Brad and Skippy about the book title and author. Now, off to a book store to find a copy ;-)) Mike Muth I knew this list would know the answer! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:21:15 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Some new kits for 1999 Message-ID: Michal, > Eduard Nieuport 11(1/48) This is good news. > Well the things are going better, This is even *better* news. I'm sure most of us never knew of your accident, and equally certain all of us wish you well. Nice to have you back among us, in - I hope - good health Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:38:44 EDT From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: More stupid questions... Message-ID: <120285a7.243e7be4@aol.com> Thanks to everybody for the cogent answers to my questions. I will let you know when (if) they pay off with the successful completion of a model. Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:40:25 -0800 From: Eric Fisher To: WW1 modelers mailing list Subject: good book available Message-ID: Achtung Jasta fans -- just found this good book for sale while browsing the web: "Eisernes Kreuz und Balken Kreuz (Markings of German A/C in WWI 1914 - 1918)" by Heinz Nowarra. Cost is $40 (plus $3.50 s&h), from: Collectors Cabinet, 532 Cumberland Ave., Teaneck, NJ (USA), 07666-2651; phone (201) 836-3384; Email . Although this is a thin volume (for a hard-bound book), it has a lot of useful info (German and English text). It also has lots & lots of interesting photos (all of small size, unfortunately), plus some nice color plates/profiles. A classic & must-have for the Jastaphile. Cheers, Eric. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:26:27 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: HR MoS L update Message-ID: <19990408.202628.-836181.0.mbittner@juno.com> Upon further examination of both the kit and the Datafile - although I have yet to look through the FMP book on the type - I have come to the conclusion the HR MoS Type L resin is meant to build the early type. Proof: shorter fuselage; no cutout in the wing leading edge; wide "V" undercarriage struts. However, you could build a "mid" production because HR does supply the narrower undercarriage. Again, I bet you could replace the narrow legs with Barry's, since cleaning up the kit struts could break them. One other thing. HR only supplies the fuselage as a single seater. Not a problem for most of us to "convert", but I thought a head's up was appropriate. Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:38:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Zivich To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: good book available Message-ID: Eric: If you have this book, what is depicted in the color plates/profiles? Matt Z On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Eric Fisher wrote: > Achtung Jasta fans -- just found this good book for sale while browsing the > web: > "Eisernes Kreuz und Balken Kreuz (Markings of German A/C in WWI 1914 - > 1918)" by Heinz Nowarra. Cost is $40 (plus $3.50 s&h), from: Collectors > Cabinet, 532 Cumberland Ave., Teaneck, NJ (USA), 07666-2651; phone (201) > 836-3384; Email . > > Although this is a thin volume (for a hard-bound book), it has a lot of > useful info (German and English text). It also has lots & lots of > interesting photos (all of small size, unfortunately), plus some nice color > plates/profiles. A classic & must-have for the Jastaphile. > > Cheers, Eric. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:49:59 -0500 From: "richard eaton" To: Subject: Re: Some new kits for 1999 Message-ID: <199904090149.UAA13771@sierra.onr.com> Michal, I was not aware of your accident. Very sorry to hear of that. Great to have you back in the fold. Thanks for the update and best wishes. Richard ---------- > From: Michal Beran > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Some new kits for 1999 > Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 12:54 AM > > I am just browsing through the pages of latest issue of our Aviation and Cosmonautic magazine. There is a list of news of the year. Some of them could be new to you as well as they were new for me: > Condor/MPM Hansa Brandenburg CI(1/72) > Eduard Nieuport 11(1/48) > Eduard Sopwith F.1 Camel(1/48) > Flashback Aviatik Berg (1/48) > Flashback Etrich Taube (1/48) > > I would like to take this opportunity and appologize to anyone who contacted me off and on list in last four months. I am still recovering from bad car crash wounds, which put me out of action and work in those days. The days could be happier, when I had an internet connection on my home PC, but this is not the case. I have sent some messages to list from my office PC during my short visits but was not able to answer any questions. > Well the things are going better, my office PC is uploaded with wwi digests for last three months and I hope to be more active on list > > Thanks and happy modelling > > Michal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:58:59 -0500 From: "Charles and Linda Duckworth" To: "ww1list" Subject: Is 'French Aeroplanes before the Great War' out? Message-ID: <001901be822c$8acfd200$809259d8@cnlduckwor> Has anyone seen/purchased this book by Leonard Opdycke. Would like to see any comments as to picture quality, any GA drawings, text etc? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:23:19 -0300 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: More N17 Q's ( stitching, metal and panels ) Message-ID: <199904081924224@cameron.prontomail.com> I have puttied over the stitching detail between the cockpit and cowl but am stuck as to what to replace it with. Does anyone have a suggestion as to how I could mimic the N17's stitching detail in that area? Is the crease on the plastic that runs from aft of the cockpit to the base of the fuselage a ribtape, a ribbing jutting through or a crease of a panel joining? Is the cowl cover the only metal part on the forward part of the fuselage? and out of interest what is under the panels on either side of the fuselage under the eliptical panels? cam AFC page at http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:49:49 -0500 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: More N17 Q's ( stitching, metal and panels ) Message-ID: <19990408.215005.-851543.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:25:01 -0400 (EDT) "cameron rile" writes: >I have puttied over the stitching detail between the cockpit and >cowl but am stuck as to what to replace it with. Does anyone have >a suggestion as to how I could mimic the N17's stitching detail >in that area? Two ways. Either with Fotocut p/e, or someone (Woody Vondracek?) makes a rub on. >Is the crease on the plastic that runs from aft of the cockpit >to the base of the fuselage a ribtape, a ribbing jutting through >or a crease of a panel joining? I think it's ribbing jutting through. >Is the cowl cover the only metal part on the forward part of the >fuselage? and out of interest what is under the panels on either >side of the fuselage under the eliptical panels? Do you mean the forward fuselage, right behind the cowl? Access to parts of the carb and such. Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:53:33 -0800 From: Eric Fisher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: good book available Message-ID: Matt, The book has a total of 159 pp. First section (55 pp.) is text; small type, 1st half German, 2nd English. Next section (majority of book, pp. 56 to 127) is devoted to b&w photos, usually 3 per pg. (each about 2x3 inches!), with additional room for legends. Final 30 or so pp. are color plates, most of which are profiles (2 per pg.) of fighter a/c, of numerous variety & Jastas. 13 plates are of single a/c (fighters + 2-seaters), shown in 'action' in oblique view. At least some of these latter figures are actually color renditions of familiar b&w photos: for example, pg. 151 is the Albatros D.V of v.Schleich -- the same view recently shown on pp. 216 & 217 in the article "Steeds for the Black Knight..." (O.T.F., 13/3, 1998), by Greg V.W. The size of the book is 7" x 9.5" x 1/2" HTH, Eric. >Eric: > If you have this book, what is depicted in the color >plates/profiles? > >Matt Z > >On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Eric Fisher wrote: > >> Achtung Jasta fans -- just found this good book for sale while browsing the >> web: >> "Eisernes Kreuz und Balken Kreuz (Markings of German A/C in WWI 1914 - >> 1918)" by Heinz Nowarra. Cost is $40 (plus $3.50 s&h), from: Collectors >> Cabinet, 532 Cumberland Ave., Teaneck, NJ (USA), 07666-2651; phone (201) >> 836-3384; Email . >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:32:44 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Some new kits for 1999 Message-ID: In a message dated 4/7/99 10:55:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, beran@cm-sec.cz writes: << I am still recovering from bad car crash wounds, which put me out of action and work in those days. The days could be happier, when I had an internet connection on my home PC, but this is not the case. I have sent some messages to list from my office PC during my short visits but was not able to answer any questions. Well the things are going better, my office PC is uploaded with wwi digests for last three months and I hope to be more active on list Thanks and happy modelling Michal >> Yes- please get perfectly well soon! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 23:58:28 -0500 From: "Lee J Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <370D88F4.267EF2C7@wireweb.net> Sorry group. this message has been sent to Mike twice and returned. Seems this may be the only way he will get it. Lee Sorry Mike I own Paasche. Two of them and I recommentd them highly. I do go to lots of the shows and I have seen the Omni 5000 at most of them. There goes all of my "expertise". But I have used Air Brushes since 1958 and I was probably among some of the first to use them for plastic models of aircraft. I have had two of my own since 1962. All I have owned were Paasche. Cleaning of most are a bit of a chore but not all as bad as some would have you believe. One of mine is so easy that all I have to do is stick the nose end into a small glass of solvent and away it goes. No significant. disassembley. It has no paint inside. The only air brush I have that even holds the paint on the outside of the brush. Cool. A Paasche type A-B. Way different. And quite expensive whe I got it.. In the late 70's it was over $130.00. The paint must be the consistancey of ink and it will make lines 1/64 of an inch wide. It can also spray several overlying colors so you can see through all of them like worn off layers of real paint. Love it. Especially good for seeing through worn out "snow" camouflage as on many German planes in Russia come spring. It was water soluble and came off in the rain. Faster when the plane was airborne. If you have any special questions I will try to answer those a bit better. Lee Mike I have sent this twice to no avail. It appears there is a problem with address from ytour message header. To: mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu Subject: Re: T&C Omni 5000 airbrush ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:17:26 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Is 'French Aeroplanes before the Great War' out? Message-ID: <001c01be827a$8d222a00$06d690d0@Pvosburg> Charlie I haven't seen it yet, but Leonard told me an interesting story in connection with it once a long time ago. As I recall, about ten years ago he got an opportunity to go to Germany to study a bunch of archived photos which he hoped to use in the book, and flew out of NY en route to Europe. Everything went O.K., until somewhere around Newfoundland he noticed sparks coming out of one of the engines on the airliner, and calmly told the flight attendant that she ought to tell the pilot that he had a problem in whichever engine it was. She kind of blew him off and came back a while later, saying there was nothing to worry about, everything was under control. So Leo made her lean over, look out the window, and pointed out the fireworks, which by now were plainly visible blowing out into the slipstream. I guess she shot back up to the cockpit, and shortly thereafter they did an emergency landing at the nearest field... Nice to see he's finished the project after all this time. Leo is extremely knowledgeable and a real gentleman --- I'm sure it's a great book, and I can't wait to see it. DV ----Original Message----- From: Charles and Linda Duckworth To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 9:58 PM Subject: Is 'French Aeroplanes before the Great War' out? >Has anyone seen/purchased this book by Leonard Opdycke. Would like to see >any comments as to picture quality, any GA drawings, text etc? > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:28:11 -0400 From: "Allan Wright" To: Shane Weier Cc: wwi Subject: Re: FW: Details, details Message-ID: <9904091028.ZM1022@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Shane, Thanks for the image. Image and comments are on your page. -Allan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:12:21 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Paasche AB wasRe: (no subject) Message-ID: <2142c522.243f8ef5@aol.com> In a message dated 4/8/99 9:59:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lemen@wireweb.net writes: << A Paasche type A-B. Way different. And quite expensive whe I got it.. >> Is that the strange turbo-wheel thing that kinda flings micro-droplets off the end of a vibrating reed? Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:36:45 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: FW: Details, details Message-ID: <000401be82af$8cd353a0$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Beautiful! What a hand you have, inShane. What did you use to make the cables? Keep showing us those pictures! D. -----Mensaje original----- De: Allan Wright Para: Multiple recipients of list Fecha: Viernes 9 de Abril de 1999 11:42 AM Asunto: Re: FW: Details, details >Shane, > > Thanks for the image. Image and comments are on your page. > >-Allan > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1530 **********************