WWI Digest 1472 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Upcoming Aeroclub kits by Albatrosdv@aol.com 2) Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler by Kevin Wenker 3) Re: New image by "Peter Crow" 4) Re: New image by "Steven M. Perry" 5) Club Meeting by "Steven M. Perry" 6) Re: Upcoming Aeroclub kits by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 7) RE: Upcoming Aeroclub kits by Shane Weier 8) Re: Making Water (was Re: Progress report..) by "David R.L. Laws" 9) Re: Attention Markings Sleuths! by "David R.L. Laws" 10) Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler by Ernest Thomas 11) Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler by Ernest Thomas 12) Re: Upcoming Aeroclub kits by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 13) Re: Water Babies by "Bill Neill" 14) Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler by Albatrosdv@aol.com 15) RE: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler by Shane Weier 16) Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 17) Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler by Kevin Wenker 18) RE: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler by Shane Weier 19) Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler by Kevin Wenker 20) Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler by Kevin Wenker 21) RE: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler by Shane Weier 22) RE: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler by Shane Weier 23) drunkaroo's, was grumbling down under or some such inverted nonsense ... by Ernest Thomas 24) RE: drunkaroo's, was grumbling down under or some such inverted n by Shane Weier 25) Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 26) Re: Hanriot by Mick Fauchon 27) Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler by Kevin Wenker 28) Re: Brumowsky Alb DIII by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 29) RE: water by Mick Fauchon 30) Re: Water Babies by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 31) Re: Albatros Question by Mick Fauchon 32) RE: Albatros Question by "Diego Fernetti" 33) Brumowski's red by "Diego Fernetti" 34) Re: Brumowski's red by "Steven M. Perry" 35) Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler by "Sandy Adam" 36) Re: Water Babies by "Sandy Adam" 37) Re: Albatros Question by Suvoroff@aol.com 38) Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler by "David Vosburgh" 39) Re: New image by Dennis Ugulano ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:21:50 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Upcoming Aeroclub kits Message-ID: <8ef8e2f6.36dc8eae@aol.com> In a message dated 99-03-02 19:57:10 EST, you write: << Could someone please post Aeroclubs home page or a link to a hobby store that sells them? Thanks >> Aeroclub doesn't have a website (yet). e-mail them at: aeroclub@compuserve.com Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 20:16:13 -0600 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler Message-ID: <36DC9B6D.775CC083@interaccess.com> I'm sure it is, Ernie. After all, when one mentions the United States, one does not then go on to list every state. Same with Great Britian - one need not list every minor possession...... :-o > Shane Weier wrote: > > > Imagine leaving Australia off the list of countries who used it - and > > actually *in* WW1 unlike most of the list ! > > I listed Great Britain, isn't that the same thing? > :) :) :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 18:29:01 PST From: "Peter Crow" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New image Message-ID: <19990303022901.27876.qmail@hotmail.com> > ...has Peter Crow's Toko SSW D.III. Excellent job, Peter! > >Gee, between Richard, Dennis and Peter, they're building for the rest of >us that don't produce as much. > >Keep up the great work, guys! > > >Matt Bittner Thanks Matt... I seem to go in spurts when it comes to building.. right now I'm in a groove..;-) when I get a little burnt on planes, I'll either work on a figure or one of the paper ships... plus not being really involved with anyone at the moment tends to free up ones time..;-) also, I'm just sort of doing them "out of the box" without all the attention to detail that you guys are putting into your efforts.. I have a lot of respect for the way you all build... P. Crow ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 21:55:49 -0500 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New image Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990302215549.006d37d0@pop.mindspring.com> Lovely SSW D.III Peter! I LIKE that model. Great work! sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 22:52:00 -0500 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Club Meeting Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990302225200.006d69ac@pop.mindspring.com> There were three of us who showed up with WWI models. More than usual :-). Mike Fletcher and his Nieuport page got a very favorable mention by Jack Gartner who did an Eduard Nie.17 SOOB as a review for the IPMS Journal. Jack did his Nie as Guynemer's plane with light brown/ med. green wings with silver outlining and Celon center section. Jack is a great modeler and this is a beautiful model. There was an Airfix Dr.1 in I forget whom's markings built OOB but looking quite nice. I had my 2 Dr.1's and the Itallian Nie.17. This meeting was also the annual swap meet. I was able to rescue a lonely looking K&B Alb C.III complete with vac formed base from purgatory on a pile of one-o-thingies. It's a happy kit now snuggled up next to all those boxes with pictures of 2 winged airplanes on them. sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:27:01 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Upcoming Aeroclub kits Message-ID: <36DD62D5.F00@ricochet.net> David Kinnear wrote: > > Could someone please post Aeroclubs home page or a link to a hobby store that sells them? Thanks Squadron mail order usually has them, and sometime they're on sale in the monthly supplements. They're one of the links on Al's WWI modeling page. Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:40:58 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Upcoming Aeroclub kits Message-ID: Rio of the many names says: > David Kinnear wrote: > > > > Could someone please post Aeroclubs home page or a link to > a hobby store that sells them? Thanks > > Squadron mail order usually has them, and sometime they're on sale in > the monthly supplements. They're one of the links on Al's > WWI modeling page. Aeroclub? I usually see Blue Max and Pegasus (same thing) but don't recall them having Aeroclub, at least in the last 5 years Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 15:06:08 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Making Water (was Re: Progress report..) Message-ID: <36DD4FDF.13B5@webtime.com.au> Alberto Rada has some really convincing water ( including a wake ) with his model of the Macchi M 5 - I believe his method is set out on his model images on the main WW1 List site david ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 15:08:30 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Attention Markings Sleuths! Message-ID: <36DD506E.5B94@webtime.com.au> > > Kurks??? who are they?? > > Tom The Kurds Saddam didn't slaughter ? david ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 22:49:51 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler Message-ID: <36DCBF6F.603A@bellsouth.net> Kevin Wenker wrote: > > I'm sure it is, Ernie. After all, when one mentions the United States, one > does not then go on to list every state. Same with Great Britian - one > need not list every minor possession...... :-o K, We really need to stop straining U.S./Aussie relations. I didn't mean to leave them of the list, I just forgot em. Or Chris Gannon forgot, if truth be known. But they are kinda hard to see way down there below the equator. :) E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 22:51:50 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler Message-ID: <36DCBFE6.5F56@bellsouth.net> Shane Weier wrote: > Actually, we are fairly proud that Australia has one of the oldest air > forces in the World (and I mean the Army Air Corps 1913, not the RAAF which > only goes back to 1921), and the only one of the new Empire nations with > their own flying corps. And don't forget the Fosters and kangaroos.(a deadly mix!) E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:55:37 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Upcoming Aeroclub kits Message-ID: <36DD6989.527F@ricochet.net> Shane Weier wrote: > Aeroclub? I usually see Blue Max and Pegasus (same thing) but don't recall > them having Aeroclub, at least in the last 5 years Duuh...Shane's right, of course. I was thinking of Blue Max. I was under the influence of too-thick pizza... Sorry, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:52:42 -0800 From: "Bill Neill" To: Subject: Re: Water Babies Message-ID: <004901be6531$e4dacce0$c7ccafce@bill> I found a copy of G R Duval's book 'British float planes'. It's got some photos of Babies in the water and on land, including one of the Eduard schemes (the checker cowling one) on a handling trolley. Some of the other photo's clearly show that the Baby was moved around on a two wheeler airplane wheel trolley under the main floats, and muscle power on the tail float. When it got where it was going, trestles got put under all 3 floats. The checks on the cowling are badly smeared at lower front and sides, so that when I make a mess of them, at least I can claim correctness. Interestingly, when the Baby was in the water, the whole rear of the main floats, up to the rear struts, was submerged, the tail float barely touches the water, and that's without the driver on board. Bill Neill. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 23:56:58 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler Message-ID: <45bec92f.36dcc11a@aol.com> In a message dated 99-03-02 23:52:46 EST, you write: << But they are kinda hard to see way down there below the equator. >> Upside down, aren't they??? :-) Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 15:09:04 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler Message-ID: > << But they are kinda hard to see way down there below the equator. >> > > Upside down, aren't they??? :-) > Next you guys are going to tell me that in the Northern Hemisphere maps have the North pole at the top and Australia at the bottom. Gimme a break ! If that was so this rain would be p*ssing UP Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 09:05:25 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler Message-ID: <36DD6BD5.674C@ricochet.net> Ernest Thomas wrote: > We really need to stop straining U.S./Aussie relations. In an effort to help smooth things over, I'll probably finish one of my SEs as a No. 2 Sq. machine and maybe even one of my Biffs as No. 1 Sq. Any of these PC12? Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 23:20:02 -0600 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler Message-ID: <36DCC682.7F000840@interaccess.com> How do you fit a kangaroo into a Foster's? Ernest Thomas wrote: > Shane Weier wrote: > > > Actually, we are fairly proud that Australia has one of the oldest air > > forces in the World (and I mean the Army Air Corps 1913, not the RAAF which > > only goes back to 1921), and the only one of the new Empire nations with > > their own flying corps. > > And don't forget the Fosters and kangaroos.(a deadly mix!) > E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 15:21:01 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler Message-ID: Rio, > In an effort to help smooth things over, I'll probably finish > one of my SEs as a No. 2 Sq. machine and maybe even one of my Biffs as > No. 1 Sq. Now you're talking. How about Liuetenant Frank Alberry of 2AFC. He was an infantryman until losing a leg in France, but still wanted to fight afterwards and couldn't do it in the trenches. Volunteered for pilot training and went to 2AFC where he scored a couple (and a couple of OoC's for what *that* is worth) He was actually memorialised on an Australia Post Aerogram (which I have by my left hand). Nice colour planview artwork of an SE-5a over a WW1 landscape and the legend "1918" and "Asutralia's One-Legged World War One Fighter Ace. I have two spare. Anyone a philatelist? > Any of these PC12? Not AFAIK, but what about a PC.10 and white asymetric scheme from late in the Palestine campaign. Would sure stand out ! > Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 23:22:07 -0600 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler Message-ID: <36DCC6FF.5CCA3527@interaccess.com> But Shane - that's why we in the Northern Hemisphere use the expression "Go p*ss up a rope." Shane Weier wrote: > > << But they are kinda hard to see way down there below the equator. >> > > > > Upside down, aren't they??? :-) > > > > Next you guys are going to tell me that in the Northern Hemisphere maps have > the North pole at the top and Australia at the bottom. Gimme a break ! If > that was so this rain would be p*ssing UP > > Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 23:24:07 -0600 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler Message-ID: <36DCC777.7A1C5462@interaccess.com> Riordan - please send me your address again - I need to send your N17 to you. I can't find it in my filing system - one which I modelled after an Australian. Seriously, I've got this kit all packed up and went to address it and can't find yours anywhere. Thanks Kevin mgoodwin@ricochet.net wrote: > Ernest Thomas wrote: > > > We really need to stop straining U.S./Aussie relations. > > In an effort to help smooth things over, I'll probably finish one of my > SEs as a No. 2 Sq. machine and maybe even one of my Biffs as No. 1 Sq. > Any of these PC12? > > Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 15:24:47 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler Message-ID: Kevin > How do you fit a kangaroo into a Foster's? Ha. Clearly *you* live at the bottom of the world, or you'd know it's the other way round. *And* that you gotta be fast, agile, and brave or extremely foolhardy to attempt this without appropriate safety equipment Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 15:27:59 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler Message-ID: Kevin > one which I modelled after an > Australian. ...is apparently getting back on topic ! And he spelled "modelled" with two "l"'s too ! My hero :-) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 23:31:50 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: drunkaroo's, was grumbling down under or some such inverted nonsense ... Message-ID: <36DCC946.26D1@bellsouth.net> Kevin Wenker wrote: > > How do you fit a kangaroo into a Foster's? Well... You need a food processor, and then you can only fit one. But you can fit several Fosters into a kangaroo and the result is much more entertaining. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 15:40:21 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: drunkaroo's, was grumbling down under or some such inverted n Message-ID: EtH says > you can fit several Fosters into a kangaroo and the result is > much more entertaining. > It depends on your point of view. Like modelling the *process* might be even more entertaining than the *product* - especially given you guys up under would presumably attempt to put the Fosters in the wrong end Shane (who thinks anywhere between Alaska and Florida is a good place for Fosters ) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 09:39:56 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler Message-ID: <36DD73EC.2FF5@ricochet.net> Kevin Wenker wrote: > > Riordan - please send me your address again - I need to send your N17 to you. I can't find it in my filing system - I know how that is. I was beginning to think it had been brought down enroute by engine trouble, ground fire, or the USPS! Riordan Goodwin 3865 Burton Common Fremont, CA 94536-6038 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:44:04 +1100 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Hanriot Message-ID: > > Han re oh > > Bob Hmmmmmm! Obviously from the other side of the continent..... or he would have dropped the "h" 80) Mick [Having survived six weeks contending with Quebecois 80( ] -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 00:50:27 -0600 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler Message-ID: <36DCDBB3.64854F97@interaccess.com> Actually it was delayed by a week's worth of the flu. Ugh. It felt like a kangaroo in my stomach. mgoodwin@ricochet.net wrote: > Kevin Wenker wrote: > > > > Riordan - please send me your address again - I need to send your N17 to you. I can't find it in my filing system - > > I know how that is. I was beginning to think it had been brought down > enroute by engine trouble, ground fire, or the USPS! > > Riordan Goodwin > 3865 Burton Common > Fremont, CA 94536-6038 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 22:53:11 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Brumowsky Alb DIII Message-ID: <199903030653.WAA09789@compass.OregonVOS.net> Diego writes: >Hi list: >Yesterday I was looking an article about AH aircraft and I saw two pictures >of the Oeffag DIII of Brumowsky. Since I'm not the happy owner of the >pertinent datafile, I'd like to know what colour this plane were (with the >skull on his side). In one of the pictures, there's a device over the top >wing, a thing that looked like the gun mount over the nieuport wings. Is it >possible? And in the other picture, the plane is upside down, with a bottom >wing broken, and the wheel hub shows a darker outer ring. Wich colour was >this? The color of this aircraft is traditionally given as overall red and I see no reason to doubt that conclusion. I don't see the "darker outer ring" on the wheel hub that you do - I think that is just a shadow. Other photos of this aircraft seem to show the wheel covers matching the rest of the fuselage and thus they are likewise presumably red. I've no idea what the "doohickey" on the top wing might be but it appears much too insubstantial to be a gun mount. Perhaps an aerometer? Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:05:51 +1100 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: water Message-ID: > Or the current Internet Modeller. Is this a pun?......or just a running joke? 80) Mick. -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 23:09:14 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Water Babies Message-ID: <199903030709.XAA13332@compass.OregonVOS.net> >Scott Spencer has a book I gave him, "The British Aircraft Carrier," which has >photos of Sopwith Babies sitting on the original HMS "Eagle," a seaplane >carrier. Scott's e-mail is: scotts@faasig.org - and he is the kind of guy >who would have no problem scanning a photo and e-mailing it to you. According to my references, HMS Eagle was never anything but a flight deck aircraft carrier - I can't find refence to an HMS Eagle seaplane carrier. Perhaps you're thinking of the original circa 1915 HMS Ark Royal which was a seaplane carrier? Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:16:45 +1100 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Albatros Question Message-ID: Matthew and James, > > I have been staring at the NASM Albatros book some more, and STROPP has a > > strange little "spigot" coming out the port side forward and below the > > cockpit. It is not apparently a common fitting, since I can't see it in most > > Albatros photographs. Does anybody have any idea what this thing is? After much delay.....and copious research 80) Sounds like the fuel-tank drain petcock to me. Short of heaving the whole tank [actually, both tanks, as the reserve tank sits over the main tank] out of the aircraft, there's no other way of emptying it except by an external petcock. I'm pretty sure that's it. But as always, I'm prepared to stand corrected. Cheers, Mick. -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 07:19:54 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Albatros Question Message-ID: <009101be655f$6282f280$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> -----Mensaje original----- De: Mick Fauchon Para: Multiple recipients of list > Sounds like the fuel-tank drain petcock to me. Short of heaving >the whole tank [actually, both tanks, as the reserve tank sits over the >main tank] out of the aircraft, there's no other way of emptying it except >by an external petcock. I'm pretty sure that's it. > But as always, I'm prepared to stand corrected. > > > Cheers, > > Mick. > That's a good point. I wonder if this equipment was fitted in all the Albatros planes, but on a different location on the fuselage (since not all pictures show this "spigot"). D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 07:31:12 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "WW1 mailing list" Subject: Brumowski's red Message-ID: <00a001be6560$f66f2ee0$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Bill, Dennis, Steven Thanks for all the useful info about Brumowski's mount. I printed all your messages and saved them for future reference. Now only remains a doubt, the red paint hue: should be like the Austrian or the Hungarian blood? ;-) Thanks again Count D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 05:51:29 -0500 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Brumowski's red Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990303055129.006d2acc@pop.mindspring.com> At 05:31 AM 3/3/99 -0500, you wrote: >Bill, Dennis, Steven > Thanks for all the useful info about Brumowski's mount. I printed all >your messages and saved them for future reference. Now only remains a doubt, >the red paint hue: should be like the Austrian or the Hungarian blood? ;-) >Thanks again >Count D. > Diego: I'm holding the color guide that comes with the Glencoe A-H Albatros. It shows Godwin as having 2 red Aldatri. 153.209 and 153.45 Both have skulls though slightly different. 153.45, listed as Nov 1917 has a Eisern kruze with thin white outline on the rudder. 153.209 listed as June 1918 has an Eisern kruze on a white square on the rudder. I'll scan it at work today ttyl sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:54:18 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler Message-ID: <199903031141.LAA09046@beryl.sol.co.uk> > But they are kinda hard to see way down there below the equator. :) > E. Look them in the eyes, man - not below the waist! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:52:53 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Water Babies Message-ID: <199903031141.LAA09041@beryl.sol.co.uk> The book you want, but don't know you want until now!, is called "Royal Navy Shipboard Aircraft Developments 1912-1931" by Dick Cronin and published by Air-Britain. It is currently still on special offer for a tenner (Sterling) including world-wide postage!!!!!! Incredible bargain - its packed with pics and diagrams of aircraft, ships, lighters, launchers, maps etc etc etc. See http://www.air-britain.com/book3.html for details - they take credit cards. HTH Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 07:00:48 EST From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Albatros Question Message-ID: <4e689b8a.36dd2470@aol.com> "After much delay.....and copious research 80) Sounds like the fuel-tank drain petcock to me. Short of heaving the whole tank [actually, both tanks, as the reserve tank sits over the main tank] out of the aircraft, there's no other way of emptying it except by an external petcock. I'm pretty sure that's it. But as always, I'm prepared to stand corrected." Well, perhaps, but wouldn't you have wanted to install this BELOW the bottom of the main tank? And why does it seem (from what is a rather brief scan of Albatros photos) to be an uncommon fitting? I am hardly an expert, so perhaps they had reasons for doing it that way that I don't understand, but it does seem a little unlikely. Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 08:22:48 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler Message-ID: <003801be6578$ef38a3a0$13d690d0@Pvosburg> -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 2:14 AM Subject: Re: Grumble, grumble - Internet Modeler The Great Heretic Writeth: > >And don't forget the Fosters and kangaroos.(a deadly mix!) >E. > Do any of our Australian mates know whether it's against the Queen's Law to give kangaroos Foster's? David?? The reason I ask is because I heard on the radio this morning that there's actually a law on the books in Maine which makes it illegal to give a Moose alcohol. Also, it's illegal to push them out of an aeroplane (WWI or otherwise, one would presume). Sounds rather more like the credits to a Monty Python movie than the General Laws of the State of Maine. DV ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 08:34:03 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: New image Message-ID: <199903030835_MC2-6C8E-5086@compuserve.com> Peter, >> I'm just sort of doing them "out of the box" without all the attention to detail that you guys are putting into your efforts. << From one OOB modeller to another, excellent job. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 2/27/99 ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1472 **********************