WWI Digest 1452 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Eduard announced by "David R.L. Laws" 2) Re: BANK CHARGES STATESIDE by "David R.L. Laws" 3) Nuremburg Show announcements by Carlos Valdes 4) RE: Nuremburg Show announcements by Shane Weier 5) Re: Albatros Question by Matthew Zivich 6) Re: Nuremburg Show announcements by Matthew E Bittner 7) Re: Albatros Question by Bob Pearson 8) RE: Albatros Question by Shane Weier 9) RE: Albatros Question by Mike Fletcher 10) RE: Albatros Question by Shane Weier 11) Re: Albatros Question by "David Vosburgh" 12) RE: Albatros Question by Shane Weier 13) RE: Eduard announced by "Richard Caudron" 14) RE: Albatros Question by Shane Weier 15) Re: Albatros Question by "Lee J Mensinger" 16) RE: Eduard announced by Shane Weier 17) Encoded messages by "R. Godfrey" 18) Re: Eduard announced by Ernest Thomas 19) Re: Encoded messages by Mike Fletcher 20) RE: Eduard announced by Bill Neill 21) Re: Eduard announced by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 22) RE: Eduard announced by Shane Weier 23) SAM index by "Tom Werner Hansen" 24) German Naval Enlisted Ranks by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 25) Re: Eduards HD-1 Price Error by Lubos.Vinar@euronova.cz 26) Re: Eduard announced by Albatrosdv@aol.com 27) Re: Eduard announced by Albatrosdv@aol.com 28) Re: Eduard announced by Lubos.Vinar@euronova.cz ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 10:47:11 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard announced Message-ID: <36CD412F.41A0@webtime.com.au> Lubos.Vinar@euronova.cz wrote: > > Hanriot HD.1 (1:48) now available (wery low cost - 7$ only) > Lubos Vinar > http://fly.to/vinar Good grief, where do you buy the HD 1 at $7:00 PLEASE - I'll buy 3 at this price !!!! david ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:04:28 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: BANK CHARGES STATESIDE Message-ID: <36CD453C.6E04@webtime.com.au> Andy Thanks Problem is that over here if I want an IMO for a $US10 purchase I have to pay $Au15 ( seriously !! ) for the forex and additional bank fees - It's a bloody obscene joke ! If there's a List member out there who's prepared to act as a trustee I'd be happy to send out a sum as a Visa or other credit card credit to their card or perhaps to a seperate card held in their name but with my money on it and liase with that member on the occassional purchase - If that were to occur then the card statement operates as the " bottom line " on costs and bank charges (including for cash advances to transfer money to personal cheque account - plus allowance for postage/ envelopes and cost of writing cheque - if I cann't buy on a card ) , I have immediate access to US funds when I need them and no one gets confused ... OK I'm dumb - I just trust you guys ! can anyone be bothered with the occassional hassle of this ? Any takers and I can send or pay to the credit of a card number $Au200 - 300 as a " float " david ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:49:27 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Nuremburg Show announcements Message-ID: <36CCB517.4378@conted.gatech.edu> These are some of the reported upcoming Eduard releases. I'm listing them here as I don't recall any mention of these particular items being made on the list. Carlos 1/48 Nieuport 11 1/48 Roland C II Profi-Pack 1/48 Sopwith F1 Camel 1/72 Fokker Dr.1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:04:26 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Nuremburg Show announcements Message-ID: Carlos, > These are some of the reported upcoming Eduard releases. I'm listing > them here as I don't recall any mention of these particular > items being > made on the list. > Carlos > > > > 1/48 Nieuport 11 > > 1/48 Roland C II Profi-Pack > > 1/48 Sopwith F1 Camel > > 1/72 Fokker Dr.1 > All of these but one were reported to the list by Rick Milas as far back as 19 January. The only new one is the Nie 11 - and Whooo boy, do I need a bunch of them. Plus the 1/48 SE-5a and 1/72 Albatros D.V are missing from the list posted then. Mmm, I suppose the changes could reflect changes in Eduards prioroties for release - as in - "which moulds will be finished next, and are they the ones we expected in january" Shane (shuddup Bittner. I am *not* going over to the dark side, Nieuport wise) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:05:08 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Zivich To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Albatros Question Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 Suvoroff@aol.com wrote: > I have been staring at the NASM Albatros book some more, and STROPP has a > strange little "spigot" coming out the port side forward and below the > cockpit. It is not apparently a common fitting, since I can't see it in most > Albatros photographs. Does anybody have any idea what this thing is? > > Yours, > James D. Gray > I recently had a chance to view this book and noticed the same fixture, located slightly fore and below the cockpit and about the size of the footstep. It's square and has a curved short pipe protruding and is painted dull green like the rest of the metal fittings. I too have never seen this device before on an Alb D series. (Located on the port side.) BTW the Mikesh book is a fantastic book covering every possible detail of a DVa. Matthew Z. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:00:28 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Nuremburg Show announcements Message-ID: <19990218.200225.-774371.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:03:36 -0500 (EST) Shane Weier writes: >(shuddup Bittner. I am *not* going over to the dark side, Nieuport >wise) Bwahahahahahaha!!! Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:56:13 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Albatros Question Message-ID: <199902190156.RAA28269@spare.rapidnet.net> I would say that the tube is a chute for the flare pistol .. this enables the pilot to fire it without having to place his hand outside of the cockpit. . My profile of Lulu on the rear cover of OTF 12/1 had the same thing fitted. Bob ---------- > From: Suvoroff@aol.com > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Albatros Question > Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:02:52 -0500 (EST) > > I have been staring at the NASM Albatros book some more, and STROPP has a > strange little "spigot" coming out the port side forward and below the > cockpit. It is not apparently a common fitting, since I can't see it in most > Albatros photographs. Does anybody have any idea what this thing is? > > Yours, > James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:24:15 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Albatros Question Message-ID: Hi all, James Gray says: > > I have been staring at the NASM Albatros book some more, > > and STROPP has a strange little "spigot" coming out the > > port side forward and below the cockpit. Legs Pearson replies > I would say that the tube is a chute for the flare pistol .. > this enables the pilot to fire it without having to place > his hand outside of the cockpit. . My profile of Lulu on > the rear cover of OTF 12/1 had the same > thing fitted. > Rats. I wish I had my Mikesh with me at the moment. When I first read James' post I thought "Ahah ! Pistol port!", and started to post an email to that effect. But....it occurred to me that a "port side forward and below the cockpit" is a strange place to have it. Unless the tube is angled backwards it'd surely require a burning flare to be fired through the wing gap (at the very least - unless the barrel was a tight fit to keep the thing accurately aimed it might go through the *wing*). If the tube is a tight fit he has to insert the pistol barrel with some accuracy wearing thick gloves, if it points backwards getting the barrel in would be hell (German flare pistol has a longer barrel than the Brit one) All of which made me wonder whether I might be wrong - and I still might be. Shane (more thought required) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:38:17 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Fletcher To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Albatros Question Message-ID: relief drain? On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Shane Weier wrote: > Hi all, > > James Gray says: > > > > I have been staring at the NASM Albatros book some more, > > > and STROPP has a strange little "spigot" coming out the > > > port side forward and below the cockpit. > > Legs Pearson replies > > > I would say that the tube is a chute for the flare pistol .. > > this enables the pilot to fire it without having to place > > his hand outside of the cockpit. . My profile of Lulu on > > the rear cover of OTF 12/1 had the same > > thing fitted. > > > > Rats. I wish I had my Mikesh with me at the moment. When I first read James' > post I thought "Ahah ! Pistol port!", and started to post an email to that > effect. > > But....it occurred to me that a "port side forward and below the cockpit" > is a strange place to have it. Unless the tube is angled backwards it'd > surely require a burning flare to be fired through the wing gap (at the very > least - unless the barrel was a tight fit to keep the thing accurately aimed > it might go through the *wing*). > > If the tube is a tight fit he has to insert the pistol barrel with some > accuracy wearing thick gloves, if it points backwards getting the barrel in > would be hell (German flare pistol has a longer barrel than the Brit one) > > All of which made me wonder whether I might be wrong - and I still might be. > > Shane > (more thought required) > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:50:27 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Albatros Question Message-ID: Mike. > > relief drain? > ROTFL. For Johann der Grosse? Shane (who will not be able to concentrate for the rest of *this* afternoon, while wondering if Eduard will shortly be attacked in the same way as Accurate Miniatures - initially jokingly - was over the absence of that usefull accessory in one of there OT kits) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:55:10 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Albatros Question Message-ID: <000a01be5bbb$a6a696e0$1fd690d0@Pvosburg> Here's two more cent's worth. If you look at the photos in the book showing the port side of the interior, there's no sign of the mystery fitting having an outlet into the cockpit, at least that I can see... judging by its position in re: the gun mount tube any opening would have to be forward of that and just above the can holding the cartridge belts, assuming there is one. That would seem to be a pretty inconvenient place to have a pistol port, or anything you had to access in flight. Just out of curiosity, where did the brass from the guns go? DV -----Original Message----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 12:30 AM Subject: RE: Albatros Question >Rats. I wish I had my Mikesh with me at the moment. When I first read James' >post I thought "Ahah ! Pistol port!", and started to post an email to that >effect. > >But....it occurred to me that a "port side forward and below the cockpit" >is a strange place to have it. Unless the tube is angled backwards it'd >surely require a burning flare to be fired through the wing gap (at the very >least - unless the barrel was a tight fit to keep the thing accurately aimed >it might go through the *wing*). > >If the tube is a tight fit he has to insert the pistol barrel with some >accuracy wearing thick gloves, if it points backwards getting the barrel in >would be hell (German flare pistol has a longer barrel than the Brit one) > >All of which made me wonder whether I might be wrong - and I still might be. > >Shane >(more thought required) > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:56:56 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Albatros Question Message-ID: Rats, > (who will not be able to concentrate for the rest of *this* > afternoon, while wondering if Eduard will shortly be attacked in the same way > as Accurate Miniatures - initially jokingly - was over the absence of that usefull accessory in one of theIR OT kits) My English is getting worse. ....wondering if there is an alternative Starboard fitting for pilots who dress to the right. Shane ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 04:59:35 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: RE: Eduard announced Message-ID: <000201be5bbc$43449560$bed82581@PCCE.cim-hardi.be> I suppose that these two models will be in the range Stripped down ? Beside the Fokker EV, EVIII, I do not think that Eduard produce a plastic kit under another label than Flashback. It should be so nice to have a new tooling for these airplanes ... Cheers, Richard Caudron > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Lubos.Vinar@euronova.cz > Sent: donderdag 18 februari 1999 14:49 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Eduard announced > > > This year, probably. > > > > > "Diego Fernetti" na 18.02.99 14:38:25 > > Odpovězte prosím - wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > > Komu: Multiple recipients of list > Kopie: (Na vědomí: Lubos Vinar/CZEURONOVA/EU/Ahold) > Předmět: RE: Eduard announced > > > > Content-type: text/plain; charset˙-ascii > > > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Lubos.Vinar@euronova.cz > >1:72 Fokker Dr.I > > Albatros D.V > > > > Great! When? Where? How? > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:03:01 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Albatros Question Message-ID: Dave, > Just out of curiosity, where did the brass from the guns go? Two holes, to starboard of the centre line and abreast of each other. They are just forward of the fuel tanks, and fed by two pipes which go forward from the guns, over the forward support bar and join together just aft of the engine rear before going more or less vertically to the bottom of the fuselage Added mine to two kits last night - hence the easy answer :-) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:19:39 -0600 From: "Lee J Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, "Lee Mensinger" Subject: Re: Albatros Question Message-ID: <36CCE65B.D793DBED@wireweb.net> Maybe he had prostate trouble and needed a relief tube. They work best when they are below the cockpit. Lee Matthew Zivich wrote: > On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 Suvoroff@aol.com wrote: > > > I have been staring at the NASM Albatros book some more, and STROPP has a > > strange little "spigot" coming out the port side forward and below the > > cockpit. It is not apparently a common fitting, since I can't see it in most > > Albatros photographs. Does anybody have any idea what this thing is? > > > > Yours, > > James D. Gray > > > I recently had a chance to view this book and noticed the same fixture, > located slightly fore and below the cockpit and about the size of the > footstep. It's square and has a curved short pipe protruding and is > painted dull green like the rest of the metal fittings. I too have never > seen this device before on an Alb D series. (Located on the port side.) > > BTW the Mikesh book is a fantastic book covering every possible detail of > a DVa. > > Matthew Z. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:16:44 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Eduard announced Message-ID: Richard posts: > > >1:72 Fokker Dr.I > > > Albatros D.V > I suppose that these two models will be in the range Stripped down ? > Beside the Fokker EV, EVIII, I do not think that Eduard > produce a plastic kit under another label than Flashback. > It should be so nice to have a new tooling for these airplanes ... Two comments One. Just because Eduard has *not* routinely released 1/72 kits does not mean they won't. Now that they have the technology to match most anyone in mould quality it makes good business sense to produce kits of well known subjects in order to capture the amount of sales necessary to pay for the new tooling - and filling the gaps in both 1/48 and 1/72 makes good sense too. In any case, for the sake of teeny scale modellers everywhere, I hope they *aren't* stripdowns. Two. I really need someone who *knows* to explain the relationship between Eduard and Flashback. As I understand it, Flashback is a separate "company" - which may be as small as one guy. He has purchased (or leased) some of Eduards older moulds, and has commissioned Eduard to produce plastic from them, plus to etch brass as well. This is not really different from Glencoe selling re-popped Aurora kits, yet we don't call Glencoe "Aurora" In addition, I understood that Flashbacks owner - or some third party subcontracting to him - is producing new tools, or new masters and Flashback is subcontracting Eduard to inject the plastic (or make tools from the master and then mould the parts). In addition he has contracted the resin bits to Aires or another party, the decals to yet another, box printing to another and the brass to Eduard. Finally (as I understand it) Flashback brings the lot together and markets the finished kits through Eduards channels. (why reinvent that wheel) Umm - if this is right, the Flashback kits ARE NOT Eduard (though the old ones may be *ex* Eduard) any more than a Tamiya kit is a Hang Won Low (tm) kit because a Korean toolmaker cut the moulds or Accurate Miniatures is Microscale because Microscale make the decals - Eduard is a contractor producing injection moulded components and etched parts from another companies designs. BUT...... Although I have read this information here (Ivan? or Michal?) and in several modelling magazines the assumption that Flashback == Eduard == Flashback persists, and I wonder if we can get a clear idea of who is doing what, to whom? Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:56:16 -0600 From: "R. Godfrey" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Encoded messages Message-ID: <4.1.19990218125355.00953ec0@pop.sound.net> Greetings Group, As a matter of curiosity, what are those often lengthy messages that seem to be encoded: 7V73pWs2WradDqNhMHikXIOOR7H3ry740eGNC02yTVrIC0uppdpgT7kmepx2xW X8GNZe11S40uacLBNGZEVu7jsPqM/lXXhcTKnLklscuKw8K9N1IKzPbp7nCkjBkPQmqI1BLa bMhKk9SDxVW7vCIiwwPl5BOK5y9nnuC0YdQe7A/yr2EeC9DrJtUiuv8AVycA4BUdaj8u6dh+ 9K7uhPp9Kw/DtpcSMCyMYgeCeDXpukaPA1uG2jceRk9KTfKK1zkJ7R2IDqxOeMDOKv2+lGSI NgZ7nFdUlhHDIfkBJ6j0q3bRQlGBQL+PWk2NRPjS7tpLad4ZUZJEOCGqFhjnBxXu3jrwVYav GZ7cCC8HRscN9a8k1fw1rFhIyS2UoweqrkH8qt07bHs4bGwqL3tGYQUYPr1pGTkcjn0q/b6N q1xIFSwnJP8As4Fdf4a8CuJBPqyZQdIgev1qFBy2NquLp0lds4JI5CdqoWJ9BXR6T4I1PVbQ zOBbDGU3jlq9YstK0y2RdlnBHgfKoUZq1PPEihEX5ugwM4pujGStL . . . for example. Thanks, Bob G. ___________________ RG-KC-US rgodfrey@sound.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 23:33:09 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard announced Message-ID: <36CCF795.6E98@bellsouth.net> Shane Weier wrote: > case, for the sake of teeny scale modellers everywhere, I hope they *aren't* > stripdowns. BOO!!! BOO!!! Stripdowns are awesome!!! Been thinking about moving the Camel up a bit in the to do pile.(ok, warehouse) I wish they'd start selling just the p-e ribs in 1/48. Maybe ribs and a few other harder to scratch parts like turtle deck formers and whatnot. E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:40:22 -0800 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Encoded messages Message-ID: <36CCF946.F335EE7C@mars.ark.com> it represents binary data, of which there are two basic types from an email - data from attachments (ie pictures or programs) or the program may be using a format that requires additional data to display correctly. If it is from a picture then the emailer has messed up. Microsloth's emailer is bad for it and so are some of the smaller 'shareware' programs. -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:38:46 -0500 From: Bill Neill To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: Eduard announced Message-ID: <199902190038_MC2-6B06-82DC@compuserve.com> I could do with a sensible SE5. I looked at the Blue Rider one, but $50 for the kit and $30 for the Datafile? I got the Lindbergh kit, if nothing better comes along, I guess I will give it a shot. Bill Neill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:45:04 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard announced Message-ID: <36CDA320.863@ricochet.net> Bill Neill wrote: > > I could do with a sensible SE5. I looked at the Blue Rider one, but $50 for > the kit and $30 for the Datafile? I got the Lindbergh kit, if nothing > better comes along, I guess I will give it a shot. FWIW, the Monogram kit is also worth searching out (I've seen it on shelves in the not too distant past) as it is better in some (many?) ways than the old Lindberg warhorse. Even at 15 USD, still arguably a good value. Also, please note that the list library has the original SE5A datafile. Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:52:55 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Eduard announced Message-ID: Ernest, I wrote: > > > case, for the sake of teeny scale modellers everywhere, I > > hope they *aren't* stripdowns. > > > BOO!!! BOO!!! > > Stripdowns are awesome!!! Been thinking about moving the > Camel up a bit in the to do pile. Yeah, yeah, but once you and the other guy that bought one get done, what the heck will the other 100,000 modellers stick their favourite aces markings onto? (Donning closet socialist cloth cap) The greater good of the greater number, comrade ! Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:18:41 +0100 From: "Tom Werner Hansen" To: Subject: SAM index Message-ID: <199902190606.HAA22556@d1o211.telia.com> Shane Would you like the rest of the index of the SAM volumes? The index goes up to 1994. I don't know where I got it from, quite possibly through some othre guy on the list. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:47:39 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: German Naval Enlisted Ranks Message-ID: <199902190647.WAA00619@compass.OregonVOS.net> Can anyone post a list of German Naval aviation enlisted ranks with their US or British equivelents? I'm having a heck of a time figuring out what a "Flugobermaat" or a "Flugzeugobermatrose" are. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 07:52:15 +0100 From: Lubos.Vinar@euronova.cz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduards HD-1 Price Error Message-ID: This price in Czech republic. Sorry. BStett3770@aol.com na 18.02.99 23:08:33 Odpovězte prosím - wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Komu: Multiple recipients of list Kopie: (Na vědomí: Lubos Vinar/CZEURONOVA/EU/Ahold) Předmět: Eduards HD-1 Price Error Content-type: text/plain; charset˙-ascii Hi Gang Sorry to take up the space. Due to a pricing error by our supplier. The Eduards 1/48 Hanriot HD-1 kits were sold to our customers at the wrong price. New Rosemont price is now $17.99 All whom purchased kits from us will be receiving a credit voucher in the mail. Sorry for the problem Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:22:31 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard announced Message-ID: <86400d1a.36cd1137@aol.com> In a message dated 99-02-19 00:17:14 EST, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << BUT...... Although I have read this information here (Ivan? or Michal?) and in several modelling magazines the assumption that Flashback == Eduard == Flashback persists, and I wonder if we can get a clear idea of who is doing what, to whom? Shane >> FWIW, I have dealt with Terrence Jones at Precision Parts, who used to be the sole North American importer of Eduard. Basically, the system is as Shane described in this note. As to who/how many constitute Flashback, it is like Classic Airframes, which is Jules Bringuer, and not even a secretary. Jules contracts with MPM and Eduard in exactly the same way Shane described Flashback (you can tell when he's done what with who - the good CA kits are Eduard molds, the others are MPM). Flashback does do new kits, viz the Me-163A "Komet," which was never in anyone else's product line. Even further back in history, during the Cold War when Eastern European modelers couldn't get Western kits, Eduard and MPM were one company: MPM. They did vacuforms. I remember in the late 80s/early 90s getting the I-15/I-152/I-153 series in 1/48, as well as a very good I-16. All vacuforms with surface detail as good as one gets nowadays with MPM and Eduard. I think one of their first limited-run injection molded kits was the Bucker Jungmann, a very good kit in 1992. Basically, what is going on over there is a bunch of people getting out from under 50 years of proof that a certain 19th Century German philosopher should never have been let out of the bathroom, and they are dividing and sub- dividing like amoebas. Some will survive, some won't. It's called "capitalism" folks. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:25:21 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard announced Message-ID: In a message dated 99-02-19 00:40:31 EST, you write: << I got the Lindbergh kit, if nothing better comes along, I guess I will give it a shot. >> If you give it a nice clean shot, it should make a hole in one right in the round file where it belongs. Basically, if you take the Lindberg and the Monogram re-do of the Aurora, and a lot of cutting and filing and fiddling between the two, you can make an S.E.5a that almost looks like one. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:05:50 +0100 From: Lubos.Vinar@euronova.cz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard announced Message-ID: Flashback is trade-mark firm AMC (Arthur Model Centrum - mail-order service) >From beginning AMC only repack kits from Eduard and complement is new PE parts (too Eduard), resin parts (Aires) and decal (Poland). Origin new kits is obscure (probably Eduard). Is possible ,that master kits originate in elsewhere (MPM ?). Excuse my poor English. Lubos Vinar Albatrosdv@aol.com na 19.02.99 08:22:37 Odpovězte prosím - wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Komu: Multiple recipients of list Kopie: (Na vědomí: Lubos Vinar/CZEURONOVA/EU/Ahold) Předmět: Re: Eduard announced Content-type: text/plain; charset˙-ascii In a message dated 99-02-19 00:17:14 EST, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << BUT...... Although I have read this information here (Ivan? or Michal?) and in several modelling magazines the assumption that Flashback ˙Eduard ˙ Flashback persists, and I wonder if we can get a clear idea of who is doing what, to whom? Shane >> FWIW, I have dealt with Terrence Jones at Precision Parts, who used to be the sole North American importer of Eduard. Basically, the system is as Shane described in this note. As to who/how many constitute Flashback, it is like Classic Airframes, which is Jules Bringuer, and not even a secretary. Jules contracts with MPM and Eduard in exactly the same way Shane described Flashback (you can tell when he's done what with who - the good CA kits are Eduard molds, the others are MPM). Flashback does do new kits, viz the Me-163A "Komet," which was never in anyone else's product line. Even further back in history, during the Cold War when Eastern European modelers couldn't get Western kits, Eduard and MPM were one company: MPM. They did vacuforms. I remember in the late 80s/early 90s getting the I-15/I-152/I-153 series in 1/48, as well as a very good I-16. All vacuforms with surface detail as good as one gets nowadays with MPM and Eduard. I think one of their first limited-run injection molded kits was the Bucker Jungmann, a very good kit in 1992. Basically, what is going on over there is a bunch of people getting out from under 50 years of proof that a certain 19th Century German philosopher should never have been let out of the bathroom, and they are dividing and sub- dividing like amoebas. Some will survive, some won't. It's called "capitalism" folks. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1452 **********************