WWI Digest 1446 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Hannover CL.II / III / IIIa and Roland D.II by "Hirohisa Ozaki" 2) RE: Albatross DrI Rigging by Dennis Ugulano 3) Bristol Scout progress report by Dennis Ugulano 4) Re: Hobby Shop Basillicas, Was: Back on list by "The Shannons" 5) Re: Albatross DrI Rigging by "Mark Shanks" 6) RE: Albatross DrI Rigging by "Mark Shanks" 7) Re: Albatross DrI Rigging by Matthew E Bittner 8) RE: Albatross DrI Rigging by Shane Weier 9) Extra parts/ was: Albatross DrI Rigging by mkendix 10) Eduard kit bits was RE: Albatross DrI Rigging by "Robert Woodbury" 11) RE: Eduard kit bits was RE: Albatross DrI Rigging by Shane Weier 12) Re: Eduard kit bits was RE: Albatross DrI Rigging by Mick Fauchon 13) RE: Eduard kit bits was RE: Albatross DrI Rigging by Shane Weier 14) Re: Sopwith Camel Magazine reviews by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 15) Re: Sopwith Triplane details by Ernest Thomas 16) RE: Eduard kit bits was RE: Albatross DrI Rigging by Mick Fauchon 17) Re: Sopwith Triplane details by Bob Pearson 18) RE: New Images on the Website by "Diego Fernetti" 19) "Skinning" wings by Matthew E Bittner 20) Re: "Skinning" wings by "Sandy Adam" 21) OAW Triplane by "David Vosburgh" 22) RE: Americal/Gryphon Info by "Richard Caudron" 23) Off Topic : Help ! Your belgian firend is lost in Denver by "Richard Caudron" 24) Sopwith Camel article on the Web today by "Edward Swaim" 25) Re: Sopwith Camel article on the Web today by "cameron rile" 26) RE: Off Topic : Help ! Your belgian firend is lost in Denver by "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" 27) Re: Off Topic : Help ! Your belgian firend is lost in Denver by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 28) Re: Extra parts/ was: Albatross DrI Rigging by "Mark Shanks" 29) RE: Albatross DrI Rigging by Matthew Zivich 30) Re: Sopwith Camel article on the Web today by KarrArt@aol.com 31) Re: Sopwith Camel article on the Web today by Bob Pearson 32) Re: Albatross DrI Rigging by Allan Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:12:18 +0900 From: "Hirohisa Ozaki" To: Subject: RE: Hannover CL.II / III / IIIa and Roland D.II Message-ID: <011501be5941$03e15d40$b11db684@dosv64.miln.mei.co.jp> Bob, Matt, Peter, Richard, I thank you to informations. These are most helpful. I will check my Datafile tonight. Thanks again, Hiro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:12:42 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: Albatross DrI Rigging Message-ID: <199902151912_MC2-6A91-13C0@compuserve.com> Mark, >> This leaves me with eight or more unexplained holes in the fuselage. << While sending one message, there is another. The photos I have show the plane with very little rigging and I saw none going to the fuselage with the exception of the wire from the nose. Having never seen the Eduard kit, I am at a loss as to the 8 holes in the fuselage. Could they be for the control lines at the rear of the plane? Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 2/3/99 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:25:23 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Bristol Scout progress report Message-ID: <199902151925_MC2-6A8F-C823@compuserve.com> All, Just a note to bring you up to date on my latest project. Two Bristol Scouts are nearing final assembly stage. If all goes well, I hope to have the top wings on by Wednesday. DURAS shortly thereafter and two more kits for the collection. I'm building two at the same time because it only takes twice as long to build two as one. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 2/3/99 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:37:16 -0600 From: "The Shannons" To: Subject: Re: Hobby Shop Basillicas, Was: Back on list Message-ID: <005501be5944$81dc4fe0$b6215dcf@default> In the greater Phoenix area, I have found a couple in Mesa and Tempe. If you are there, the one in Tempe is (I believe) Depot Hobbies, the one in Mesa's name excapes me. I am not a resident of that area, but I have relatives in Mesa and I have to repair time damage on a few of the gifts I've given them when I visit. Anyway, both stores looked promising, the Depot Hobbies was well established with backissues of magazines and a lot of good bargains and helpful people. The Mesa store looked like they kept a smaller stock, but were also friendly and helpful. Neither is a real Mecca, but both have people who speak our language. .Mark. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Shanks To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 10:34 AM Subject: Re: Hobby Shop Basillicas, Was: Back on list >Mark wrote: > >GOOD hobby shops are scarcer than phoenix eggs. Speaking of Phoenix - >I was amazed that they don't have what I would consider a GOOD hobby >shop (what with all the military and retirees there) - only stores >that share their space with the afore-mentioned dolls, gimcracks, >geegaws, and downright frilly foolery. A veritable wasteland, in more >ways than one. (One place, Desert Hobbies, closed before I settled in >- it looked promising, from my single visit.) Avoid altogether. >Mark >mshankls@fltdyn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:39:54 -0700 From: "Mark Shanks" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Albatross DrI Rigging Message-ID: <199902160030.QAA12355@mailhost.fltdyn.com> Dennis Ugulano wrote: ----mucho deleto---- > There is an excellent shot of the ailerons and per Ray Rimell "All > three wings were fitted with ailerons which were connected with vertical > steel struts and operated through control rods passing through the centre > wing." > > I hope this helps. Yes sir, it does. Many thanks! Mark mshanks@fltdyn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:43:32 -0700 From: "Mark Shanks" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Albatross DrI Rigging Message-ID: <199902160034.QAA12413@mailhost.fltdyn.com> Dennis Ugulano writes: > The photos I have show the plane with very little rigging and I saw > none going to the fuselage with the exception of the wire from the nose. > Having never seen the Eduard kit, I am at a loss as to the 8 holes in the > fuselage. Could they be for the control lines at the rear of the plane? Eduard includes three small fittings with holes for each fuselage side, near the bottom and just aft of the cockpit. The control lines at the rear of the aircraft get their own set of fittings. I can't see anything like these on the single photo I have - and am left to conjecture just what purpose they could serve. Mark mshanks@fltdyn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:29:08 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Albatross DrI Rigging Message-ID: <19990215.193112.-738715.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:37:17 -0500 (EST) Matthew Zivich writes: >I mentioned something about this subject some time ago when I >purchased >this kit, but got no further information about rigging from anyone. >(It >seems there is only the one photo of this craft in existence.) My >guess >was the wing rigging does go to the middle of the lower wing under >the >fuselage. Also I remain puzzled about how the ailerons were activated >by >the pilot. Anybody know? There are drawings - and two pics - in the _Albatros Experimentals_ book. The drawings include rigging info. LMK off list. ;-) Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:01:53 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Albatross DrI Rigging Message-ID: Mark > Eduard includes three small fittings with holes for each fuselage > side, near the bottom and just aft of the cockpit. The control lines > at the rear of the aircraft get their own set of fittings. I can't > see anything like these on the single photo I have - and am left to > conjecture just what purpose they could serve. It is not unknown for Eduard to include extras of small photoetch parts. If they don't appear in the instructions, maybe they are just there for dills like myself who lose about 1 in 3 of the small bits? Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:30:32 -0500 (EST) From: mkendix To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Extra parts/ was: Albatross DrI Rigging Message-ID: Shane: After I had finished Eduard's, 1/72nd scale Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter, I had two aileron control horns left over, not including the ones that when I cut them off the brass fret, they went spinning into dimension six. One explanation for the remainder is that given by Shane below, the other possiblity does not bear thinking about. Michael mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Shane Weier wrote: > Mark > > It is not unknown for Eduard to include extras of small photoetch parts. If > they don't appear in the instructions, maybe they are just there for dills > like myself who lose about 1 in 3 of the small bits? > > Shane > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:41:43 +0800 From: "Robert Woodbury" To: Subject: Eduard kit bits was RE: Albatross DrI Rigging Message-ID: <000301be5955$e3268fc0$91107482@robertw-pc-fl.per.clw.csiro.au> > > It is not unknown for Eduard to include extras of small photoetch > parts. If Anyone ever figure out why Eduard included the dress makers pins in their early kits? Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:47:40 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Eduard kit bits was RE: Albatross DrI Rigging Message-ID: Rob, > Anyone ever figure out why Eduard included the dress makers > pins in their early kits? Cheap, easy source of brass (nickel plated) rod ? Buy a box of 100 pins, then wander down to the local hobby shop and pay twice as much for a 300mm length of brass rod to see the economics for a short run manufacturer. (and they couldn't injection mould thin styrene rods back then) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:20:35 +1100 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Eduard kit bits was RE: Albatross DrI Rigging Message-ID: Robert, > Anyone ever figure out why Eduard included the dress makers pins in their > early kits? If my memory hasn't abandoned me, I suspect they were gun barrels... or axles.....or maybe even prop-shafts. Mick. > > Rob > > -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:41:45 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Eduard kit bits was RE: Albatross DrI Rigging Message-ID: Mick, > > Anyone ever figure out why Eduard included the dress makers > > pins in their early kits? > > If my memory hasn't abandoned me, I suspect they were > gun barrels... or axles.....or maybe even prop-shafts. Nope. At least in the MS-L they provided yer actual stainless steel tubing for gun barrels and a pin for the control column. Oh, and tubing for axles too - a hell of a waste of useful tubing, so mine is secreted away for use as gun barrels if fellow list member and doctor, Graham Steel ever gets deregistered and loses access to all those syringes ;-) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 16:19:03 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sopwith Camel Magazine reviews Message-ID: <36C8FFC7.AAAE19F1@tac.com.au> > From: "Graham Nash" > Subject: Re: Sopwith Camel Magazine reviews > > I would be happy to give you a de-limited file of Sopwith Camel > appearances if that would help. > > Let me know what criteria you want. > > Best, > > Uncle SNiffy Hi Uncle Sniffy, Now why didn't I think of you in the first place :->>. The criteria would along the lines of any model reviews, articles, but not scratchbuilts in modelling magazines in all scales & going back as far as say, early Airfix Magazines. I have a pretty good selection of the following magazines: Windsock Airfix Magazines Scale Aircraft Modelling Scale Models (International), which BTW, is dropping to a bi-monthly rate DARN!!!! Scale Aviation Modeller - Yes I know how good it is!!! Also any club magazine would be helpful as well. I've most probably made myself clear as mud :-( In return for all the help I got in this, when the DB(Lotus approach files) is finished(at least a couple of months away :-(( ), I'll make it available to the list. Thanks Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:32:01 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sopwith Triplane details Message-ID: <36C902D1.6317@bellsouth.net> Bill Neill wrote: > I can't see any indication of a windshield, is there none? Or is it just > not evident on any of the photos I can find? > Bill, I'm looking for my pics from Aerodrome, but iirc, the windscreen is a piece of clear somethingorother in the center of padded breech. Sorry, I don't know about the shape of the padded D or smallish square. I'll let you know when I find the Aerodrome pics. Guess you don't have a Datafile? > Thanks > Bill Neill You're welcome, EtH. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 16:54:37 +1100 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Eduard kit bits was RE: Albatross DrI Rigging Message-ID: Shane, > > gun barrels... or axles.....or maybe even prop-shafts. > > Nope. ****! No wonder it didn't work for gun-barrels, ha-ha! At least in the MS-L they provided yer actual stainless steel tubing > for gun barrels and a pin for the control column. Oh, and tubing for axles > too - a hell of a waste of useful tubing, so mine is secreted away for use > as gun barrels if fellow list member and doctor, Graham Steel ever gets > deregistered and loses access to all those syringes ;-) Hmmmmm! What are they worth to ya? I have a son who's a nurse 80) Pins I can get from my wife's sewing-box.....if I can find anything in it 80) Mick. > > Shane > -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:36:53 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Sopwith Triplane details Message-ID: <199902160736.XAA03547@spare.rapidnet.net> Bill, Go to my website and check the photo page .. i have a shot of the Triplane cockpit there. Both versions of the padding are correct, however the shot I have is of the square pad. Regards, Bob Pearson Visit my WW1 aviation page at http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1 Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn/ ---------- > From: Bill Neill > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Sopwith Triplane details > Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:17:42 -0500 (EST) > > After a short break brought about by a combination of wedding anniversary > and Valentine day, I'm getting into nitty gritty detail on my 48 Triplane. > Some things I need help with, please..... > There is presumably a fuel filler cap somewhere on the top front cowling. > What is it's position, and what's it look like/made of? > The Vickers breech padding is confusing me. I got some photos of the > replica Triplane at Old Warden, they show a smallish square leather pad. > The Eduard instructions indicate a larger 'D" shape leather pad. Which is > correct, or are both possible? > I can't see any indication of a windshield, is there none? Or is it just > not evident on any of the photos I can find? > > Thanks > Bill Neill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 06:50:13 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: New Images on the Website Message-ID: <000c01be5991$c0be9cc0$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> -----Mensaje original----- De: Matthew E Bittner Para: Multiple recipients of list Fecha: Lunes 15 de Febrero de 1999 4:02 PM Asunto: Re: New Images on the Website >On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:52:37 -0500 (EST) Allan Wright > writes: > >> Annother moded gallery added today. Some really nice photos of >>Franco Poloni's Caproni bomber. > >Beautiful. Most awesome. > >Franco, how about some text to go with the pictures? Like who made the >model - or if it's scratched; paints used; etc. > >That is one great model. > > >Matt Bittner > I fully endorse Signor Bittner. Please tells us how you did the excellent work. Do you have detail shots of the beautiful cockpit tub?. Great model Franco! D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 05:50:12 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: "Skinning" wings Message-ID: <19990216.055013.-845271.3.mbittner@juno.com> If I was to skin a 1/72nd wing with either .005 or .010 plastic sheet, what glue should I use? I've been trying to figure this out to no avail. TIA! Matt Bittner nb: Off-Topic and Flashback Strutter ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:08:26 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: "Skinning" wings Message-ID: <199902161207.MAA21952@beryl.sol.co.uk> I usually attach the "skin" with double-sided tape. then run non-soluble cement (CA or similar) along the TE join. I've got models over twenty years old where the tape is still holding the skin firmly in place. If its got rounded wingtips that's where you have fun. Not sure about wing thickness if skinning a 1/72 wing mind you. HTH Sandy ---------- > From: Matthew E Bittner > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: "Skinning" wings > Date: 16 February 1999 11:47 > > If I was to skin a 1/72nd wing with either .005 or .010 plastic sheet, > what glue should I use? I've been trying to figure this out to no avail. > TIA! > > > Matt Bittner > > nb: Off-Topic and Flashback Strutter > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:33:48 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: OAW Triplane Message-ID: <000301be59b0$fca2dac0$14d690d0@Pvosburg> In re: the Alb. Dr.I thread last night, I was looking through some OAW stuff for Shane a few weeks ago and came across a photo in WWI Aero No.133 of an Austrian-built Albatros tripe (serialed 50.14) in some pictures in Grosz's ARCHIV section. It's a shot from above and astern, and it appears to be a completely different a/c than the one under discussion, judging by the picture in Thetford & Grey and my copy of the Eduard kit: a much cleaner and generally more attractive empennage & fuselage, incorporating an intergal headrest, ailerons on the top wing only, and with a different arrangement of the center section. I looked through the rest of T&G, and couldn't find any mention of an Oeffag tripe... anyone know any more details? Is there a possible conversion lurking here? DV ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:59:05 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: RE: Americal/Gryphon Info Message-ID: <000001be59b4$844ee1a0$b8906420@PCCE.cim-hardi.be> Extracted from a brand new price list : 18, British roundels large A/C is 6.5 19, same, but small is 6.5 36, same 1/48 is 6.5 Add 2.3 for 1st class and 4.50 for overseas Cheers, Richard Caudron > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > David Vosburgh > Sent: vrijdag 12 februari 1999 1:53 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Americal/Gryphon Info > > > Just got back online, and am wondering if anybody with a current > A/G catalog > could kindly tell me how much sheets Nos.18, 19, & 36 would be > with S&H? My > price list is over a year old and I have them at $6.50 ea. and $2.30 > postage. > > TIA > > Dave V. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:11:16 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: Off Topic : Help ! Your belgian firend is lost in Denver Message-ID: <000001be59b6$3804a120$43906420@PCCE.cim-hardi.be> Hi List, Do anybody know a good address in Denver, Colorado, for Scale Modelling ? Thank you for any answer before Saturday, when I fly back home. Regards, Richard Caudron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 07:06:12 PST From: "Edward Swaim" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Sopwith Camel article on the Web today Message-ID: <19990216150612.19476.qmail@hotmail.com> In the electronic version of today's Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, there is a feature article on the Sopwith Camel in our aerospace museum. http://www.ardemgaz.com/today/fea/easopwith16.html Edward Swaim Little Rock, Arkansas ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:28:11 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sopwith Camel article on the Web today Message-ID: <199902160732102@cameron.prontomail.com> Interesting, have to pencil in Arkansas in places to visit. Out of interest where are the other 6 surviving Camels housed or displayed? How many SE5a's are displayed or housed? Did any of the less popular type aircraft like the BE2 survive? cam Visit my homepage at http://www.prontomail.com/Prontomail/users/cameron ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:31:33 -0700 From: "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Off Topic : Help ! Your belgian firend is lost in Denver Message-ID: <5DA4C4BE65D9D111A6FC0060081FD2189E7259@SNEFFELS> Try Colpar Hobbies, 804 S. Havana St., Aurora. Best hobby shop in Denver and one of the best I've ever been in, period. Hi ho! Michael -----Original Message----- From: Richard Caudron [mailto:richard_caudron@ibm.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 7:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Off Topic : Help ! Your belgian firend is lost in Denver Hi List, Do anybody know a good address in Denver, Colorado, for Scale Modelling ? Thank you for any answer before Saturday, when I fly back home. Regards, Richard Caudron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:11:17 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Off Topic : Help ! Your belgian firend is lost in Denver Message-ID: >Do anybody know a good address in Denver, Colorado, for Scale Modelling ? >Thank you for any answer before Saturday, when I fly back home. >Regards, >Richard Caudron Is "Mile High Hobbies" still open in Denver? If so, they should be in the yellow pages--I don't remember the address. Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:16:47 -0700 From: "Mark Shanks" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Extra parts/ was: Albatross DrI Rigging Message-ID: <199902161607.IAA18685@mailhost.fltdyn.com> On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Shane Weier wrote: > It is not unknown for Eduard to include extras of small > photoetch parts. If they don't appear in the instructions, maybe > they are just there for dills like myself who lose about 1 in 3 of the > small bits? Sounds like too much Vegimite! Well, checking again, I noticed that I made a mistake in describing what I had. These three-per-side fittings are *forward* of the cockpit area, and *are* present on the DV/DVa versions of the plane, being right on the wing root. If the DrI is a direct descendant/offshoot of the DV, it seems reasonable that there would be vestigal remnants in the design. (These are also shown in the kit instructions, and unfortunately, there aren't any extra bits included.) They look like a re-enforcement for some sort of rigging path, but I can't see any lines that pass through these points, either on the DrI OR the DV. And for what it's worth, my current modeling area is carpeted with chocolate brown shag (it was there when we bought the house, and yes, I plan on recarpeting some day!). There must be a brass-mine of fiddly bits in that damned stuff - HUD mounts, sway braces, probably *hundreds* of buckles, bezels, throttles, and all the other sub-atomic slivers that look so important on a model but when introduced into our human-scale dimension acquire the power of invisibility...... Mark mshanks@fltdyn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:57:16 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Zivich To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Albatross DrI Rigging Message-ID: There aren't any control horns visible on any of the wings. Matt Z On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Mark Shanks wrote: > Shane writes: > > > Regarding ailerons - I don't even recall if they are on all wings. But I'd > > *guess* that since the lower wing doesn't join the fuselage it's most likely > > done like the D.V - I emphasise that this is a guess until I look at the > > photo (then it'll probably still be a guess !!) > > Yes, there do appear to be ailerons on all wings. They are connected > like venetian blinds (well, SORT of!) with what LOOK to be > airfoil-section wooden struts something less than 1/2 the width of > the main wing struts. Since the middle wings mount directly into the > fuselage, it would seem likely (possible, anyone?) that the control > linkage went from the stick through the middle wing, and that wing's > ailerons acted as the master, with the top and bottom wings' ailerons > mechanically slaved to them. Just a guess. > > This leaves me with eight or more unexplained holes in the fuselage. > Eduard doesn't show ALL of the rigging, either. Hmmm - I'll be > hitting the Squadron book some more to see what the Albatross > engineers thoughts on the subject may have been...... > > Thanks! > > Mark > mshanks@fltdyn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:02:55 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sopwith Camel article on the Web today Message-ID: <72159bb0.36c9b2cf@aol.com> In a message dated 2/16/99 7:29:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, cameron@prontomail.com writes: << Interesting, have to pencil in Arkansas in places to visit. Out of interest where are the other 6 surviving Camels housed or displayed? How many SE5a's are displayed or housed? Did any of the less popular type aircraft like the BE2 survive? cam >> This is the old Frank Tallman Camel. WW I Aero had an article a couple of years ago about its restoration. It's finished in Field Kindley's markings, an Arkansas ace from the 148thAS, usually listed as having 12 victories. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:03:16 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Sopwith Camel article on the Web today Message-ID: <199902161803.KAA06007@spare.rapidnet.net> > << Interesting, have to pencil in Arkansas in places to visit. Out of interest > where are the other 6 surviving Camels housed or displayed? How many SE5a's > are displayed or housed? Did any of the less popular type aircraft like the > BE2 survive? Cam, The NAM in Ottawa has a BE2, Junkers J.I and AEG G.IV as examples of rarely seen types. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:19:00 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Albatross DrI Rigging Message-ID: <199902161819.NAA16477@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > > This leaves me with eight or more unexplained holes in the fuselage. > > Eduard doesn't show ALL of the rigging, either. Hmmm - I'll be > > hitting the Squadron book some more to see what the Albatross > > engineers thoughts on the subject may have been...... I think there is an Albatros Dr-I photo in the back of the Harleyford Fighters book and a couple of photos in the Trimpanes softcover. If you don't have either of these let me know. -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1446 **********************