WWI Digest 1436 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Halberstadt finish: WAS: Pegasus Web site by Shane Weier 2) RE: "Small Part Detail" Photos on the WW I Modeling Page by Shane Weier 3) Re: Pasadena model show.. by KarrArt@aol.com 4) RE: Un/subscribing by "Jack Berlien" 5) RE: Un/subscribing by Shane Weier 6) Re: Things that float... by Mick Fauchon 7) Re: Things that float... by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 8) Re: White Paint.... by lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) 9) Re: Halberstadt finish: WAS: Pegasus Web site by Alberto Rada 10) RE: Halberstadt finish: WAS: Pegasus Web site by Shane Weier 11) Re: "Small Part Detail" Photos on the WW I Modeling Page by KarrArt@aol.com 12) RE: "Small Part Detail" Photos on the WW I Modeling Page by Shane Weier 13) Another scrap of fabric.... by Zulis@aol.com 14) SPAD 11 by Matthew E Bittner 15) WWI Fabric MvR !!??!?!?? by Mike Dicianna 16) RE: Murphy and decals.. by Bill Neill 17) Re: Russian DR1. ? by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 18) Taps - and Last Post. by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 19) Re: Taps - and Last Post. by Zulis@aol.com 20) RE: Quiet? by ModelerAl@aol.com 21) Don Rinker by Bob Pearson 22) The bloody Red Baron industry marches on..... by "Sandy Adam" 23) RE: The bloody Red Baron industry marches on..... by "Diego Fernetti" 24) Re: The bloody Red Baron industry marches on..... by Carlos Valdes 25) RE: Quiet? by "Landon, James D" 26) RE: The bloody Red Baron industry marches on..... by "Diego Fernetti" 27) triplanes, red by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 28) Re: Taps - and Last Post. by "Andy Kemp" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:35:38 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Halberstadt finish: WAS: Pegasus Web site Message-ID: Franco, > Shane > looking at the BM box art I wonder how to do the camo of the > aft fuselage.... > I need a tip.... I mixed or chose five(?) colours to match the descriptions given in the datafile and/or on the box. Then I sprayed the fuselage and wing centre section in one of them (grey?? don't recall) Using each of the others in turn I fired splotches of colour over the aircraft to give a more or less even distribution of each colour. Because I use a Badger 350 I did this by spraying through a small hole in a hand held card mask (a good single action brush would have been easier) Finally, without the mask, and with the gun set to spray a fine mist, I held the gun a LONG way from the model and lightly speckled it overall with each of the colours in turn. At that point I thought the finish looked great, but when I put the gloss coat (future) on it darkened more than I'd anticipated and hid some of my hard work. Ah well, it still looks okay, and I think the same techniques and colours will work on my 1/48 kit. If only I had the slightest idea what the colours were.... (Apologies to the list member for whom I was researching this :-( ) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:38:23 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: "Small Part Detail" Photos on the WW I Modeling Page Message-ID: Hi all, Experimenting with the Nikon, I've taken a detail shot of el Biffo which Al has kindly placed with my other photos on his site. Question: Is this the level and type of detail we want? Question: Is Al interested in adding a bunch of such details from all of us? Question: Are the warts too annoying - the photo appears about 2 1/2 times life size on my screen Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 16:59:27 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pasadena model show.. Message-ID: In a message dated 2/7/99 10:11:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, eatcrow@hotmail.com writes: << I had a great time today out at the show in Pasadena.. haven't really been to a good one before and this was a fun day for me.. the meeting of other list members. Bob Karr and his family, Candice, Tom Cleaver, and others that weren't list members that I also had fun talking to.. but the highlight for me was seeing the stuff that they had brought in.. Bobs HP-400 and the Blenheim were "drop you in your socks" killers.. the pics on the web sites don't even begin to give them there due.. Candice had a Alb DV and the Gotha in 1/48 that were superb.. great wood finish on the Alb, and you just have to see the Gotha... Tom Cleaver had three Albatri, one being the D-II with the "Passen.. conversion set" .. all the good thing said about it on the list are true... You have to see one of Toms wood finishes.. The low point of the day was, any thoughts that I may have had of becoming a big time "digital photo guy" are nil..;-) a blind guy could have taken better pics.. will be hanging on to the day job.. I dare anyone to go to one of these and not spend money, no matter what you say to yourself before hand.. wall to wall unbuilts at home, and I buy more.... All in all, a pretty good Sunday afternoon..;-) P. Crow >> Hello All! Yesterday was a long day, and I'm just now fully rejoining the world. I must concur with Peter- all in all, a pretty good Sunday afternoon. It's always nice to meet an e-mail pal face to face and discover a genuinely delightful and positive entity behind the monitor! Nice to see ya Peter! Also got to visit with Candice again - always a pleasure (glad you guys both got your hands on the new Eduard HD). No major purchases on my part- I DID manage to get the Williams Bros 1/6 Lewis and Vickers for $3 a piece. Not sure what I'll do with 'em. I also saw Tom Cleaver's build-up of the Eduard- Passchendaele D III>D II. LUST!!!! When I finally squash Boris( the Spider) I'm diving into that sucker pronto. I think I'll be contrary and do D I. The HP 0/400 came in second to an Eduard Nieuport 17 done up Belgian style. This may be one of the few perfect models I've ever seen. Flawless- wherever one looked, it was great- and it looked REAL, not just a good looking model. The Blenheim lost to a competant 1/32 Phantom from a kit, dripping with aftermarket stuff. (don't get me started). Kid Tony got second and third in the juniors with the AM Yak on skis and his carrier Hornet loaded with Doolittle's B-25s ( he bought the Toko Snipe and is fingering it right now). Thanks for the nice words Peter and let's see your work! Robert K. (who's spending a bit of today catching up on e-mail) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 16:22:31 -0800 From: "Jack Berlien" To: Subject: RE: Un/subscribing Message-ID: <000c01be53c2$4b600f60$0730a8c0@rna0186964> Thanks, but how does it know what email address to use? What if I want it to go to a different email address than I am sending from? Thanks, Jack -----Original Message----- From: Shane Weier [mailto:sdw@qld.mim.com.au] Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 1:00 PM To: 'j-berlien@ti.com' Subject: Un/subscribing Importance: High Jack >Would someone please remind me how to unsubscribe / re-subscribe under >a different email address? The web site is unclear whether the commands go >in the Subject field or the first line of the message. send unsubscribe wwi in the first line of the body of the message to wwi-request@pease1.sr.unh.edu leave the subject blank See you again soon! Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:22:18 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Un/subscribing Message-ID: Jack, Sorry, I forgot the *resubscribing* bit. AFAIK the only way you can resubscribe is to do so from the *new* address. Same procedure except subscribe wwi I guess the list server picks up the address from the "from" ield in the mail message. I sort of doubt if you can redirect from your current address because if so it would theoretically be possible for some nasty little creep to subscribe and send the list mail to hundreds of unwitting (and unwilling) recipients. While our stuff is harmless enough, there are undoubtedly list servers on the web you'd rather not have the output from Shane > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Berlien [mailto:j-berlien@ti.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 9 February 1999 8:15 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Un/subscribing > > > Thanks, but how does it know what email address to use? What > if I want > it to go to a different email address than I am sending from? > > Thanks, > > Jack > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shane Weier [mailto:sdw@qld.mim.com.au] > Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 1:00 PM > To: 'j-berlien@ti.com' > Subject: Un/subscribing > Importance: High > > > Jack > > >Would someone please remind me how to unsubscribe / > re-subscribe under > >a different email address? The web site is unclear whether > the commands go > >in the Subject field or the first line of the message. > > send > > unsubscribe wwi > > in the first line of the body of the message to > > wwi-request@pease1.sr.unh.edu > > leave the subject blank > > See you again soon! > > Shane > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:42:03 +1100 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Things that float... Message-ID: Paul, > A member in my IPMS club has a 1/232 scale Revell kit of the Seeadler he wants to sell at a very reasonable price. Although familiar with the history of this commerce raider, I have no knowledge about the kit itself. Does anyone have any input as to its authenticity and color scheme suggested by Revell? I just happen to have one salted away at home 80) From memory, its pretty well typical of the older generic Revell kits, with details changed to protect the innocent, cf. Eagle, Gorch Fock: the hulls and major fittings are the same, only the details, eg. deck-houses, etc, have been changed, and armament added. As to the colour scheme, I'm not sure, but if you want, I could check it out at home. Cheers, Mick. -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 16:54:36 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Things that float... Message-ID: >As to the colour scheme, I'm not sure, but if you want, I could check it out at home. >Cheers, >Mick. If you have a few minutes to spare, that would be great, Mick. Just wanted to be sure it is accurate "within reason" to make it worth building. (Not that something labeled as a bad kit has ever stopped me in the past!) Any light you can shed on this kit is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:37:58 GMT From: lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: White Paint.... Message-ID: <36bf8235.2182845@legend.firstsaga.com> On Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:42:05 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >Personally, I have always gotten very good results from Floquil >Primer White - yes, the heavy duty, xylene-based stuff. I use the >ever-popular Dio-Sol to thin, plus a couple of drops of Retarder. >Airbrush on in several thin coats. Thanks for all the replies concerning the white paint. I haven't used floquil for some years. Back in the late sixties, early seventies, I was more a model railroader and swore by Floquil...don't know why it didn't come to mind. (Maybe to many Dio-Sol fumes back then.) As far as Testors owning Polly Scale, I believe that RPM, who owns Floquil and Polly Scale now owns Testors. If you visit their web page you'll see: "Testors - an RPM Company". Well, I think I acutally have some reefer-white floquil stashed away, along with some Dio-Sol - have to dig it out. Thanks again, Len ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 20:57:52 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Halberstadt finish: WAS: Pegasus Web site Message-ID: <36BF880F.E46A8E15@argonaut.net> Hi Americal has Nos. 89-90-91-92 Austro-Hungarian Autumn and Summer Leaf Camouflage and this looks very close to it, any thoughts about it ? SALUDOS Alberto Shane Weier wrote: > Franco, > > > Shane > > looking at the BM box art I wonder how to do the camo of the > > aft fuselage.... > > I need a tip.... > > I mixed or chose five(?) colours to match the descriptions given in the > datafile and/or on the box. > > Then I sprayed the fuselage and wing centre section in one of them (grey?? > don't recall) > > Using each of the others in turn I fired splotches of colour over the > aircraft to give a more or less even distribution of each colour. Because I > use a Badger 350 I did this by spraying through a small hole in a hand held > card mask (a good single action brush would have been easier) > > Finally, without the mask, and with the gun set to spray a fine mist, I held > the gun a LONG way from the model and lightly speckled it overall with each > of the colours in turn. At that point I thought the finish looked great, but > when I put the gloss coat (future) on it darkened more than I'd anticipated > and hid some of my hard work. Ah well, it still looks okay, and I think the > same techniques and colours will work on my 1/48 kit. > > If only I had the slightest idea what the colours were.... (Apologies to the > list member for whom I was researching this :-( ) > > Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:14:58 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Halberstadt finish: WAS: Pegasus Web site Message-ID: Alberto > Americal has Nos. 89-90-91-92 Austro-Hungarian Autumn and > Summer Leaf Camouflage > > and this looks very close to it, any thoughts about it ? I'd have thought that the Autumn/Summer leaf patterns would be too coarse to represent the speckles, and in what, two? colours? Maybe if you used the 1/72 stuff on 1/48 it'd look okay, especially with a dabbling of a third colour, but that would defeat the purpose, which I presume was to avoid some rather messy work. Neat lateral thinking though Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:29:13 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: "Small Part Detail" Photos on the WW I Modeling Page Message-ID: In a message dated 2/8/99 1:54:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << Hi all, Experimenting with the Nikon, I've taken a detail shot of el Biffo which Al has kindly placed with my other photos on his site. Question: Is this the level and type of detail we want?>> Dadgummit yes! <> Nope- your warts don't annoy me- I enjoyed being able to almost touch your Biff- I got a real "feel" for your craftsmanship, and I like it. I'd love to be able to see a lot more models like this- I could appreciate a bit more what others have done and maybe learn a new lick or two.... Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:03:28 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: "Small Part Detail" Photos on the WW I Modeling Page Message-ID: Robert, > > Question: Are the warts too annoying - the photo appears > > about 2 1/2 times life size on my screen > > Nope- your warts don't annoy me- I enjoyed being able to > almost touch your Biff- I got a real "feel" for your > craftsmanship, and I like it. I'd love to > be able to see a lot more models like this- I could > appreciate a bit more what others have done and maybe > learn a new lick or two.... Talking about learning a lick or two - as in every blasted model I ever built, a positive flood of new Biff info has arrived since the thing was done. I had had a lot of trouble finding photos that show the engine side of the firewall, and a little trouble believing that it was entirely bare with just a lip for the rear of the cowl to sit on, but either couldn't see conclusively in shots, or suspected the aircraft was in maintenance mode with equipment removed. A couple of days ago I finally found a WW1 Aero with more cockpit, engine etc photos than I knew existed, AND a couple which conclusively showed me to be right. In THAT detail. ....but proved me wrong in another where I'd had clear photos which showed (apparently) that the cross wires from the top of the forward cabane struts fix to the top of the firewall behind cutouts in the engine cowl. In *fact* they continue onwards across the front face of the firewall and connect to the opposite engine bearer where it adjoins the firewall. I had been fooled because reflection of light fron the metal face of the firewall had flared in the camera lens and blurred out the narrow black lines of the wires - which show painfully clearly in the new photo. Ah well, at least its a dead easy fix, but it shows that however well you know the subject, too much reference material is never enough (and incidentally points out that detail shots will probably also garner replies along the line of "you left out the anti-hermeti-clungerator knob" from someone else who forgot he had THE definitive reference until just that moment :-) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:34:21 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Another scrap of fabric.... Message-ID: For those who have an interest in the occasional scraps of WWI-vintage aircraft fabric being sold: "This unusual item is an actual piece of camoflage wing cloth (measuring 9-1/2 by 1-1/2 inches) from a German WWI Halb CL IV Airplane . This piece was originally sold by the planes pilot (Ernst Strahle) through the Cross and Cockades Magazine, in the 1970s, when he was still alive." http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=65120862 Includes photo of small swatch of purple/green material. Paul Strahle I have heard of - but I dont have anything on Ernst. Regards, Dave Zulis ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:51:42 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: SPAD 11 Message-ID: <19990208.205143.-803687.0.mbittner@juno.com> I'm still trying to track down more info on the SPAD 11, if there's anything new that has come up lately. Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 20:26:25 +0000 From: Mike Dicianna To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: WWI Fabric MvR !!??!?!?? Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990208202625.0068bd34@dnc.net> Another listing found during my daily Ebay search of "fokker" Another piece of the "red baron's" final aircraft. Seller says his documentation is good, who knows....interesting pictures. PITA music and a large file that takes forever to load. Item is up to over $300.00 right now. Ya think I should take out a second mortgage on the house to bid on this? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=65042532 Mikedc "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:13:12 -0500 From: Bill Neill To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: Murphy and decals.. Message-ID: <199902090014_MC2-69C2-8AE7@compuserve.com> Last night I got to try to put the upper and lower wing roundels on the Triplane. I remarked before how the Eduard decals were reluctant to release from the backing. Well the upper wing roundels would not release at all, but after 20 minutes soaking, they cracked to pieces (the pieces are still firmly stuck to the backing). I found two sheets of old Superscale RFC roundels,(72-006) but they are much darker than the Eduard ones. The fuselage roundel is on, and varnished,as are the rudder stripes, and I am reluctant to try to get them off again to get a color matched set. Anyone know of a good, available, sheet of RFC roundels which will be a near enough match for the Eduard? The blue on the Eduard is about FS 35183. Thanks Bill Neill The murphy bit? I had a look in my BM DH2 kit to see if I could do anything with the decals there. I got a set of Camel decals. Anyone got a BM Camel with DH2 decals?? Bill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:42:29 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Russian DR1. ? Message-ID: <199902090542.VAA01682@compass.OregonVOS.net> Brad writes: > I was just reading Last Train Over Rostov Bridge by Marion Aten when I >came across the following passage. > "A couple of Bolshie fighters had come up against us. They were >obvious tyros, and Kink [Sam Kinkead], deeming the bombers [DH9s] safe >under the protection of Tommy [Burns-Thompson] and myself, had collaborated >with Eddie Fulford in downing one of them, a lethargic Spad. Then Eddie had >chased a Fokker triplane rather deep into Red territory, till he thought >better of it and turned around." > My first guess is that this was a mis-identified Sopwith Tripe. I am >finding the accuracy of this book in general, suspect. I checked the Imrie >Triplane book and found no mention of DR1.s in foreign service of any kind. >Given the nature of the war though, you never know. > Do any of you know if the DR1. did serve in Russia? If so, what >references? I'm looking for a different scheme to apply to the Hawkeye >kit. ...Riordan? Seems -most- unlikely that any Dr.Is ended up in Russia. Certainly nothing I've ever seen a reference on. Still, there was -one- Dr.I which got shipped to Ungarische Allgemeine Maschinenfabrik AG in Hungary in 1918. Who knows where that might have ended up after the collapse of the Austro- Hungarian Empire. Former AH aircraft seemed to end up lots of strange places in the years immediately after the end of the war and it is not, I suppose, beyond the realm of possibility that this Fokker may have survived the end of the war and ended up in some strange place as well - although the utility of a single example of the type would seem minimal at best. Alas for different markings however, even if this triplane did somehow migrate from Hungary to Russia, the MAG triplane was of the V.7 variety with a fuselage some 21" longer than the standard Dr.I fuselage. A replica of a V.7 Dr.I would involve some rather radical surgery on any of the existing Dr.I kits. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:11:00 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Taps - and Last Post. Message-ID: <199902090711.XAA04083@compass.OregonVOS.net> The following was picked up off of rec.aviation.military this evening. ------------------------------------------------------------ The current issue of "Over the Front" rolled in in todays mail and buried in the back are a couple of footnotes to our century. Harold Edwards, 1896-1998. The last survivor of the 3,400 men who served in the Australian Flying Corps in World War one died in Brisbane at the age of 102. He was an instrument fitter who served with #3 Squadron, A.F.C., and in April, 1918 was one of the Honor Guards on the body of Manfred vonRichtofen. He engraved the nameplates for the Baron's first coffin and grave marker. Otto Roosen, 1896-1998. The last surviving pilot of the Imperial German Air Service passed away in Heintsville, Ontario, Canada on May 27, 1998. He served in Fleiger Abteilung 4, 16, and 17. He flew Rumpler C.IV, C.VII, Junkers J.I, Hannover CL.III and Halberstadt CL.II aircraft and was shot down three times. He emmigrated to Canada after W.W.II, and now he is gone. Sad! He died a long way from the country to which he donated the best years of his life. I don't think there are any American pilots left from the First War, I'm not sure about British or French. Bill Shuey IPMS 10292 ----------------------------------------------------------- Can't vouch for any of this as with the current screw ups with the Over the Front subscriptions, I'm still waiting for -all- of my 1998 copies. Still, may Messrs. Roosen and Edwards rest in peace and I come to attention and give a salute in honor of their memories. It was all so long ago but their courage and sacrifice still deserve to be remembered - and honored. "Bugler! Sound Last Post!" Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 02:21:02 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Taps - and Last Post. Message-ID: <518aa7a4.36bfe1de@aol.com> In a message dated 2/9/99 2:12:34AM, Bill Shuey writes: << Otto Roosen, 1896-1998. The last surviving pilot of the Imperial German Air Service passed away in Heintsville, Ontario, Canada on May 27, 1998. >> FYI for any list members who keep archives, etc. That location should read "Huntsville, Ontario, Canada." Dave Z. Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 02:22:27 EST From: ModelerAl@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Quiet? Message-ID: Jim Landon wrote: >P.S. I found 81 new e-mails on my computer here at work this morning. >There would have been more if I hadn't been here Saturday. It's going to >take me till lunch time to read them all and respond to a few. I may have >to unsubscribe to keep from getting fired. We'll see how it goes this week. You might want to try switching to the digest format - that way you'll get a day's worth of postings in one email. HTH, Al ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:58:29 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Don Rinker Message-ID: <199902090758.XAA18281@spare.rapidnet.net> Greetings all, Does anyone have a recent email address for Don Rinker, I didn't see him among the list recipients and drinker@fast.net is user unknown, Regards, Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:39:10 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: The bloody Red Baron industry marches on..... Message-ID: <199902091042.KAA13622@beryl.sol.co.uk> How many more books on Reichspudding can we take?!!! My book club has sent me note of Peter Kilduff's latest title "The Illustrated Red Baron" published by Arms & Armour Press at 20GBP. The blurb says "Many of the pictures are published for the first time and give a fresh insight into the personality and the exploits of the famous fighter". Fresh insight? We'll see. Presumably Peter does it because it sells and presumably many will flock to buy it. Will it really add much to what we already have though? Pity Peter couldn't concentrate his many talents on an "Illustrated North Sea Seaplanes" title or an "Illustrated German Bomber Squadrons", or...... anything other than the ubiquitous Prussian PR Prodigy. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:14:21 -0200 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: The bloody Red Baron industry marches on..... Message-ID: <000401be541d$5848bfa0$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> -----Mensaje original----- De: Sandy Adam >How many more books on Reichspudding can we take?!!! Sandy MvR, like the Beatles, seems to have spend his whole life posing for the cameras, ain't he? But although I can't dare to say "fresh" to a story with many books about it, I like to see new stuff about him from time to time. As a modeler, who knows what nice picture can bring a new idea for dioramas or paint schemes? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 10:11:54 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The bloody Red Baron industry marches on..... Message-ID: <36C0503A.2EDA@conted.gatech.edu> Thanks for the word on the new title, Sandy. If it wasn't for your pathological hatred of this central figure in WWI aviation I may not have learned of the coming appearance of this no doubt useful volume any time soon. If I could offer a bit of advice, maybe you can let off some further steam by stepping on a few Albatros D.III kits (which could be expensive, unfortunately, but what price mental health?)or tossing a couple of darts at a photo--you know, one of the many that are out there--of the evil man himself. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 08:11:12 -0700 From: "Landon, James D" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Quiet? Message-ID: <98B98E951BA0D1119A590000F8045A47025166D1@emss02m05.ems.lmco.com> <> Thanks. I had that in the back of my mind. Will give it a try. Jim Landon, Staff Engineer, Lockheed Martin Astronautics Div. Launch Systems Dept., Electrical Systems Design Group Phone: (303) 971-1038, Fax: (303) 977-9738 or 977-8323 E-mail: James.D.Landon@lmco.com WWW: http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/landoni/index.html > ---------- > From: ModelerAl@aol.com > Reply To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 1999 12:22 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Quiet? > > Jim Landon wrote: > > >P.S. I found 81 new e-mails on my computer here at work this morning. > >There would have been more if I hadn't been here Saturday. It's going to > >take me till lunch time to read them all and respond to a few. I may > have > >to unsubscribe to keep from getting fired. We'll see how it goes this > week. > > You might want to try switching to the digest format - that way > you'll > get a day's worth of postings in one email. > > HTH, > Al > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:10:17 -0200 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: The bloody Red Baron industry marches on..... Message-ID: <000e01be543e$4e267000$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> -----Mensaje original----- De: Carlos Valdes > If I could offer a bit of advice, maybe you can let off some further >steam by stepping on a few Albatros D.III kits NNOOOOOOO give it all to meeeeeeeeeee!!!!!! D. the Albatros serial builder ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:07:24 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: triplanes, red Message-ID: <01BE541C.600AF1A0.panz-meador@vsti.com> ha, gotcha sandy! this is in response to the querry about tripes used by the bolsheviks. in lennart andersen's book "soviet aircraft and aviation 1917-1941" there is a chapter entitled "aircraft taken over by the red air fleet, 1917-1920". only a pair of fokker d.viii's (captured from the poles) are mentioned under that entry. however, under sopwith, in addition to camels, snipes, a pup, and strutters, was a single triplane, viz: "Triplane N5486 arrived with the British Military Mission to Russian in the Spring of 1917. It ended up with the RKKVF and was assigned to the 1st Military School of Pilots, where it remained until being written off in 1925. This aircraft was preserved and still survives in the Soviet AF Museum at Monino." RKKVF: (Workers and Peasants Red Air Fleet) HTH, phillip ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:48:59 -0000 From: "Andy Kemp" To: Subject: Re: Taps - and Last Post. Message-ID: <006801be546e$837d1120$b902d3d4@whatever> There are a couple of Brits left that I know of. I believe (though others may have more up to date information) that Roy Shillinglaw (ex of 100 Sqn FE2 & HP man) is still alive and well on the Isle of Man - and I've just heard this week of a 102 yr old FE2 pilot from 22 & 101 Sqns (what is it about night bomber pilots that gives them longevity??) still going strong in South Africa. Wont be long now though ... and we'll all be researching ancient, rather than living history :-( Andy >I don't think there are any >American pilots left from the First War, I'm not sure about British or >French. > > Bill Shuey ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1436 **********************