WWI Digest 1435

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Additional Dr.1 References
	by Modelhound@aol.com
  2) Re: Additional Dr.1 References
	by Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
  3) Re: Additional Dr.1 References
	by KarrArt@aol.com
  4) Re: Additional Dr.1 References
	by KarrArt@aol.com
  5) Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
	by Ashley9862@aol.com
  6) Re: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
	by Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
  7) RE: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
	by "Robert Woodbury" <Robert.Woodbury@per.clw.csiro.au>
  8) Re: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
	by BStett3770@aol.com
  9) Re: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
	by "Lee J Mensinger" <lemen@wireweb.net>
 10) Re: White Paint....
	by SMS <sms@netins.net>
 11) Re: White Paint....
	by "Lee J Mensinger" <lemen@wireweb.net>
 12) Pasadena model show..
	by "Peter Crow" <eatcrow@hotmail.com>
 13) Re: White Paint....
	by Rick Milas <rmilas@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
 14) RE: Quiet?
	by "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 15) RE: "Small Part Detail" Photos on the WW I Modeling Page
	by "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 16) Re: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
	by Matthew E Bittner <mbittner@juno.com>
 17) RE: if you have some extra cash lying around . . .
	by "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 18) RE: The Big Apple
	by "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 19) Re: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
	by John & Allison Cyganowski <Janah@worldnet.att.net>
 20) Re: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
	by John & Allison Cyganowski <Janah@worldnet.att.net>
 21) Re: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
	by Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
 22) Things that float...
	by "Paul Schwartzkopf" <PSchwartzkopf@transcrypt.com>
 23) Names .. was  if you have some extra cash lying around . . .
	by "Sandy Adam" <cbbs@almac.co.uk>
 24) Russian DR1. ?
	by "Brad Gossen" <bigglesrfc@globalserve.net>
 25) RE: White Paint....
	by "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" <Michael.Satin@shepards.com>
 26) Re: Homepage
	by Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
 27) RE: White Paint....
	by "Mark Shanks" <mshanks@fltdyn.com>
 28) RE: Quiet?
	by "Landon, James D" <james.d.landon@lmco.com>
 29) Vickers FB.5 Gunbus kit (fwd)
	by Allan Wright <aew>
 30) RE: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
	by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" <panz-meador@vsti.com>
 31) RE: JaPo Oeffag Albatros book
	by "Landon, James D" <james.d.landon@lmco.com>
 32) RE: JaPo Oeffag Albatros book
	by "Mark Shanks" <mshanks@fltdyn.com>
 33) RE: Finishes, was JaPo Oeffag Albatros book
	by "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" <Michael.Satin@shepards.com>
 34) RE: Quiet?
	by "Landon, James D" <james.d.landon@lmco.com>
 35) Re: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
	by Ashley9862@aol.com
 36) RE: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
	by "Jack Berlien" <j-berlien@ti.com>
 37) RE: Finishes, was JaPo Oeffag Albatros book
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 38) RE: Pegasus Web site
	by Franco Poloni <frank@lo.itline.it>

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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:38:39 EST
From: Modelhound@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Additional Dr.1 References
Message-ID: <fec5ec21.36be5c3f@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/7/99 7:27:33 PM Pacific Standard Time,
bshatzer@orednet.org writes:

<< 
 I've no idea what a "pulsometer" might be - >>

I write:
I believe, and I've been known to be wrong, that a pulsometer confirms the
fuel pressure/flow, by allowing the pilot to see the fuel pulse up into an
inverted glass bowl.  Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong here.

Mike Franklin
Bellingham, WA

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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:35:26 -0800
From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
To: WW1 Mailing list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Additional Dr.1 References
Message-ID: <199902080335.TAA09022@spare.rapidnet.net>


Bill queries ..

> I've no idea what a "pulsometer" might be - unless they are
> referring to the ignition switch - maybe it doesn't translate
> from the German very well but I can't imagine what 'pulses'
> might be or why one would wish to meter them.  Probably something
> I'm completely overlooking here but I've never before heard
> of a "pulsometer".  

The pulsometer is a small glass tube that shows fuel flowing through it. If
you have the F1 Camel Datafile (#26) it can be seen in a photo on page 28.
It is the small glass tube in the second photo from the bottom right beside
the two switches.


Regards,
         Bob Pearson

Visit my WW1 aviation page at
http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1

Managing Editor / Internet Modeler
http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn/

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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:42:58 EST
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Additional Dr.1 References
Message-ID: <418792d8.36be5d42@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/7/99 3:07:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, gabertp@cpis.net
writes:

<< 
 Both the big Revell kit and the DML Dr.1 feature a hand fuel pump, Revell
 has it on the cockpit's left, DML on the right.  Are either of these
 correct?
 
 The Hawkeye kit lists a few additional references particuarly the Feb 89
 and May 90 issues of WW1 Aero.  I haven't checked to see if back  issues of
 these two copies are available but would appreciate an honest opinion on
 their usefulness.  TIA for any help received.
 
 Paul G.
  >>

 A long day and a real quick partiasl answer- I think for some reason the
revell 1/28 cockpit is backwards- a mirror inmage. It took me years to notice.
Also, I think I have the WW I Aeros in question, and I'll dig around tomorrow!
Tired and thirsty
Robert K.

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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:43:01 EST
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Additional Dr.1 References
Message-ID: <8c1c9f58.36be5d45@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/7/99 7:27:33 PM Pacific Standard Time,
bshatzer@orednet.org writes:

<< 
 I've no idea what a "pulsometer" might be - unless they are
 referring to the ignition switch - maybe it doesn't translate
 from the German very well but I can't imagine what 'pulses'
 might be or why one would wish to meter them.  Probably something
 I'm completely overlooking here but I've never before heard
 of a "pulsometer".  
  >>
 A little glass dome that showed the oil was flowing- it showed the pulses of
the oil through the system- used with rotary engines.
Robert K.

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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:07:53 EST
From: Ashley9862@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
Message-ID: <333aa718.36be6319@aol.com>

Hi Guys,

   Does anybody have a preferred source of 1/48 detail sets for WWI aircraft,
specifically weapons (Lewis, Spandau, parabellum), scarf rings.....and all
that good stuff.  I can't stand to do another Photoetch weapons detail torture
session !!

Candice

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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 20:09:08 -0800
From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
To: WW1 Mailing list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
Message-ID: <199902080409.UAA09319@spare.rapidnet.net>


Candice writes ...

>I can't stand to do another Photoetch weapons detail torture
> session !!

There is no torture in model making .. only degrees of enjoyment :-)

Bob

PS  Aeroclub has decent weapons in different configurations.

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:25:11 +0800
From: "Robert Woodbury" <Robert.Woodbury@per.clw.csiro.au>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
Message-ID: <000301be531b$042af8a0$91107482@robertw-pc-fl.per.clw.csiro.au>

>    Does anybody have a preferred source of 1/48 detail sets for
> WWI aircraft,
> specifically weapons (Lewis, Spandau, parabellum), scarf rings.....and all
> that good stuff.  I can't stand to do another Photoetch weapons
> detail torture
> session !!
>

Hi Candice,

Aeroclub does a number of these items in white metal. Though I can't speak
to accuracy, I can say though that with the few that I've been able to
compare I'd prefer to stick with photoetched because of the finesse
possible.

Rob


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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:25:50 EST
From: BStett3770@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
Message-ID: <2c2aa9f6.36be674e@aol.com>

Hi Candice

I've got Resin , Spandaus & Vickers in 1/48

Keep Modeling
Barry
Rosemont Hobby
www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby

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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:25:02 -0600
From: "Lee J Mensinger" <lemen@wireweb.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, Ashley9862@aol.com
Subject: Re: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
Message-ID: <36BE752E.F5FC0A47@wireweb.net>

There are a couple of plans in the Model Airplane News book Scale Aircraft
Drawings Volume ! World War I.  May not be best but it's available.  Lee

Ashley9862@aol.com wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
>    Does anybody have a preferred source of 1/48 detail sets for WWI aircraft,
> specifically weapons (Lewis, Spandau, parabellum), scarf rings.....and all
> that good stuff.  I can't stand to do another Photoetch weapons detail torture
> session !!
>
> Candice


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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:27:45 -0600
From: SMS <sms@netins.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: White Paint....
Message-ID: <36BE75CE.11F6EA52@netins.net>



Leonard Endy wrote:

> I need some recommendations for a good white paint that will work well
> thru an airbrush.  I've used Testors Model Master and the results vary
> from one session to the next which untimately leads to some serious
> frustration....and the need for some oven cleaner (I'll do that later
> tonight.).
>
> So what are your personal preferences, preferred solvents, and mixing
> ratios ?
>
> Len,
> (Whose wife will probably say: "Dear, while your using that easy-off
> on your model could you spray a little in the oven ?)

Floquil White, the lacquer base type available in their railroad and
military colors.  It is very flat, but covers everything extremely well.
Works well as a primer on metal.  Must be sprayed on plastic but has a
good "bite".

Steve S.



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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:37:47 -0600
From: "Lee J Mensinger" <lemen@wireweb.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, sms@netins.net
Subject: Re: White Paint....
Message-ID: <36BE782A.D9D46E4A@wireweb.net>

Not a real pro, but I have used the model Railroad Floquil paints for 37
years and they are a wonder to use.  Great coverage, very thin layers
possible with a paint that has the grain ground to 1/83rd scale to keep it
in the correct relationship with modeling.  Thin Gently, 10-15 percent and
go.  Can not be brush painted on plastics with out a layer of their product
called Barrier and even then I do not recommend it.  Airbrush in thin
layers, dries to the touch in less than 5 minute.   From the bottle very low
gloss with  glossy coats in light, medium and high available.  Can copy the
shine on a sunlite lake with a coat of Crystalkote.  Good stuff.   They make
a great primer also.Lee

SMS wrote:

> Leonard Endy wrote:
>
> > I need some recommendations for a good white paint that will work well
> > thru an airbrush.  I've used Testors Model Master and the results vary
> > from one session to the next which untimately leads to some serious
> > frustration....and the need for some oven cleaner (I'll do that later
> > tonight.).
> >
> > So what are your personal preferences, preferred solvents, and mixing
> > ratios ?
> >
> > Len,
> > (Whose wife will probably say: "Dear, while your using that easy-off
> > on your model could you spray a little in the oven ?)
>
> Floquil White, the lacquer base type available in their railroad and
> military colors.  It is very flat, but covers everything extremely well.
> Works well as a primer on metal.  Must be sprayed on plastic but has a
> good "bite".
>
> Steve S.


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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 22:10:08 PST
From: "Peter Crow" <eatcrow@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Pasadena model show..
Message-ID: <19990208061009.9533.qmail@hotmail.com>


I had a great time today out at the show in Pasadena.. haven't really 
been to a good one before and this was a fun day for me.. the meeting of 
other list members. Bob Karr and his family, Candice, Tom Cleaver, and 
others that weren't list members that I also had fun talking to.. but 
the highlight for me was seeing the stuff that they had brought in.. 
Bobs HP-400 and the Blenheim were "drop you in your socks" killers.. the 
pics on the web sites don't even begin to give them there due.. Candice 
had a Alb DV and the Gotha in 1/48 that were superb.. great wood finish 
on the Alb, and you just have to see the Gotha... Tom Cleaver had three 
Albatri, one being the D-II with the "Passen.. conversion set" .. all 
the good thing said about it on the list are true... You have to see one 
of Toms wood finishes.. 

  The low point of the day was, any thoughts that I may have had of 
becoming a big time "digital photo guy" are nil..;-) a blind guy could 
have taken better pics.. will be hanging on to the day job..

  I dare anyone to go to one of these and not spend money, no matter 
what you say to yourself before hand.. wall to wall unbuilts at home, 
and I buy more....

  All in all, a pretty good Sunday afternoon..;-)

  P. Crow

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 01:05:42 -0600 (CST)
From: Rick Milas <rmilas@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: White Paint....
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990208005005.3046B-100000@staff2.cso.uiuc.edu>

I've used Poly Scale white with fine results. I always filter Poly Scale
through a nylon as I'm puring it into my airbrush bottle. I've learned the
hard way that Poly Scale, even brand new, can have some nasty lumps in it
that may go through the airbrush, but still mess up the finish on the
model. Filtering it really helps. I use Poly Scale airbrush thinner for
thinning purposes. 
FWIW I hear that Testors has a new line of acrylic paints, but I haven't
used them. I also understand that Testors now owns Poly Scale. One hobby
shop owner told me that Poly Scale may even be discontinued sometime early
in the coming century. 
I've never tried Aeromaster acrylics, but I hear good things about them. I
just don't have a source for Aeromaster where I live.
Happy painting,
Rick Milas


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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 07:08:00 -0200
From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Quiet?
Message-ID: <002301be5342$879ccde0$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>



>I just joined today.
>


Welcome Great Landoni. I've seen your web page. Good work!
Diego Fernetti


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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 07:34:39 -0200
From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: "Small Part Detail" Photos on the WW I Modeling Page
Message-ID: <007d01be5346$4053c340$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>



>   Nicole Kidman's face, under a microscope, would look like a disgusting
>landscape of desquamating epithelium.


No kid(man)ding!

Sorry. I couldn't resist.
D.


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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 04:52:22 -0600
From: Matthew E Bittner <mbittner@juno.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
Message-ID: <19990208.045556.-845433.1.mbittner@juno.com>

On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:12:18 -0500 (EST) Ashley9862@aol.com writes:

>   Does anybody have a preferred source of 1/48 detail sets for WWI 
>aircraft,
>specifically weapons (Lewis, Spandau, parabellum), scarf rings.....and 
>all
>that good stuff.  I can't stand to do another Photoetch weapons detail 
>torture
>session !!

Rosemont has just cast some wonderful resin pieces.  Roll Models carries
the entire line of Aeroclub white metal, as does Sopwith Hobbies, I
believe.


Matt Bittner

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 07:57:50 -0200
From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: if you have some extra cash lying around . . .
Message-ID: <00dc01be5349$7dbfea80$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>


-----Mensaje original-----
De: Mike Fletcher <mdf@mars.ark.com>
>I learn something new everyday<g> A fletcher is indeed an arrow maker
>(or more specificly the process of adding the feathers or 'fletching'
>the arrow).
>I was told it was derived from Norse (perhaps an older version of the
>language?) and speard by the Viking invasions, which expalined why it
>appeared so similar in many European languages (French, German, English
>etc).


Spanish too. Arrows means "flechas" down here. So, regards Miguel Flecha!
D.


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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:25:06 -0200
From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: The Big Apple
Message-ID: <013f01be534d$4cda1360$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

>I don't know of any museums focusing exclusivly on WWI, but the USS
>Intrepid is supposed to have a lot of great off topic aircraft, not just
>Navy. I hear they also have an on-topic SE5a repo.
>
>Cyg.
>

They have a SE5, yes. In US markings. They let me take some pictures behind
the ropes, because I asked nicely and did the "amazed southamerican" act. It
always work.
Now seriously, they're friendly people.
Regards.
D.


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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 06:27:45 -0500
From: John & Allison Cyganowski <Janah@worldnet.att.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
Message-ID: <36BECA31.2D60@worldnet.att.net>

Hi Candice,

I like 2 sources for non-photoetch details. Aeroclub makes some nice
bits and the can be had at Roll Models (rollmodels.com).  I can also
highly recommend Rosemont Hobby Shop.  Barry has purchased and is
re-releasing / renovating the entire Atlee line of resin details.  The
Spandaus are primo for resin guns.  I am also dying to see the new
Vickers, which Barry has created from scratch. Rosemont can be found at
http://www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby/

Best Regards,
John Cyg.

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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 06:34:07 -0500
From: John & Allison Cyganowski <Janah@worldnet.att.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
Message-ID: <36BECBAF.2F26@worldnet.att.net>

Whoops,  I for got about Sopwith Hobbies.  Definetly try them as well. 
Their Email is sopwithusaAaol.com

Cyg.

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 07:39:09 -0500
From: Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
Message-ID: <199902080739_MC2-699E-29B9@compuserve.com>

Candice,

        Head for Aeroclub.  There you will find an excellent line of 1/48th
guns, engines, props and etc that look very nice when completed.  

Dennis Ugulano
email:  Uggies@compuserve.com
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies
Page Revised 2/3/99

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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 07:59:27 -0600
From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" <PSchwartzkopf@transcrypt.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Things that float...
Message-ID: <s6be9974.012@transcrypt.com>

A member in my IPMS club has a 1/232 scale Revell kit of the Seeadler he wants to sell at a very reasonable price.  Although familiar with the history of this commerce raider, I have no knowledge about the kit itself.  Does anyone have any input as to its authenticity and color scheme suggested by Revell?  

Paul A. Schwartzkopf


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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:34:38 -0800
From: "Sandy Adam" <cbbs@almac.co.uk>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Names .. was  if you have some extra cash lying around . . .
Message-ID: <199902081438.OAA10806@beryl.sol.co.uk>

Having exhaustively corrected each other endlessly about the fact that a
Fletcher made arrows - which I am sure we all knew anyway, can I ask that
we don't do the same for Wrights, Coopers, Tanners, Turners, Smiths,
Millers, Farmers, Hunters..........

Otherwise I'll have to tell you all where my name comes from.....
Sandy Adam 

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:40:51 -0500
From: "Brad Gossen" <bigglesrfc@globalserve.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Russian DR1. ?
Message-ID: <199902081443.JAA04481@smtp2.globalserve.net>


    I was just reading Last Train Over Rostov Bridge by Marion Aten when I
came across the following passage.

       "A couple of Bolshie fighters had come up against us. They were
obvious tyros, and Kink [Sam Kinkead], deeming the bombers [DH9s] safe
under the protection of Tommy [Burns-Thompson] and myself, had collaborated
with Eddie Fulford in downing one of them, a lethargic Spad. Then Eddie had
chased a Fokker triplane rather deep into Red territory, till he thought
better of it and turned around."

    My first guess is that this was a mis-identified Sopwith Tripe. I am
finding the accuracy of this book in general, suspect. I checked the Imrie
Triplane book and found no mention of DR1.s in foreign service of any kind.
Given the nature of the war though, you never know.
    Do any of you know if the DR1. did serve in Russia?  If so, what
references?  I'm looking for a different scheme to apply to the Hawkeye
kit. ...Riordan?

Brad
BigglesRFC@globalserve.net  

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 07:54:51 -0700 
From: "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" <Michael.Satin@shepards.com>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: White Paint....
Message-ID: <5DA4C4BE65D9D111A6FC0060081FD2189E7209@SNEFFELS>

"I need some recommendations for a good white paint that will work well
thru an airbrush.  I've used Testors Model Master and the results vary
from one session to the next which untimately leads to some serious
frustration....and the need for some oven cleaner (I'll do that later
tonight.).

So what are your personal preferences, preferred solvents, and mixing
ratios ?

Len"

Len,
	I agree about the Model Master, it just doesn't seem to work right.
I have had very good luck with AeroMaster's enamel white.  It's not so good
with a brush, since it's rather thin out of the bottle, but works very well
in an airbrush.  I thin with Xylol (or it's substitute since you can't get
the original any more) until just about the consistency of milk.
Incidentally, I like all of AeroMaster's enamels (I'm old fashion and can't
seem to get acrylics to work for me).  I've used Floquil, though not their
white, and like it too, using good old DioSol (ah, the rather fuzzy memories
;-x) to thin.  Good luck!

Hi ho!

Michael

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:56:36 -0500
From: Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Homepage
Message-ID: <199902080956_MC2-69A5-AB13@compuserve.com>

Dane,

        Thank you for your comments.  I guess we do have our own way of
inflicting pain and enjoying it.  And we keep doing it.  Is there no hope
for us?

Dennis Ugulano
email:  Uggies@compuserve.com
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies
Page Revised 2/3/99

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 07:41:43 -0700
From: "Mark Shanks" <mshanks@fltdyn.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: RE: White Paint....
Message-ID: <199902081531.HAA00219@mailhost.fltdyn.com>

Personally, I have always gotten very good results from Floquil 
Primer White - yes, the heavy duty, xylene-based stuff. I use the 
ever-popular Dio-Sol to thin, plus a couple of drops of Retarder. 
Airbrush on in several thin coats. If you want a semi-gloss finish 
(no one wants a really gloss finish, now, do you?), I start with the 
Floquil, and finish with a top coat of Humbrol Satin White. I've been 
using Floquil for decades, and haven't had a problem with yellowing 
yet.

Mark
mshanks@fltdyn.com

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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 08:56:49 -0700
From: "Landon, James D" <james.d.landon@lmco.com>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Quiet?
Message-ID: <98B98E951BA0D1119A590000F8045A47025166C1@emss02m05.ems.lmco.com>

Hi Michal,

Thanks for the welcome.  Did you take a peek at my web page?  It's very
amateurish compared to everybody else's on this list.  Do you have one?

P.S.  I found 81 new e-mails on my computer here at work this morning.
There would have been more if I hadn't been here Saturday.  It's going to
take me till lunch time to read them all and respond to a few.  I may have
to unsubscribe to keep from getting fired.  We'll see how it goes this week.

Jim Landon, Staff Engineer, Lockheed Martin Astronautics Div.
Launch Systems Dept., Electrical Systems Design Group
Phone: (303) 971-1038, Fax: (303) 977-9738 or 977-8323
E-mail: James.D.Landon@lmco.com
WWW: http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/landoni/index.html


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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:29:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Allan Wright <aew>
To: wwi
Subject: Vickers FB.5 Gunbus kit (fwd)
Message-ID: <199902081629.LAA12851@pease1.sr.unh.edu>

Forwarded message:
>From Delavpub@aol.com  Mon Feb  8 10:25:50 1999
From: Delavpub@aol.com
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:26:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Vickers FB.5 Gunbus kit
To: aew@unh.edu
Message-id: <a29d02c8.36bf0219@aol.com>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.i  for Windows sub 179
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit

Hi Allan,

Been looking at your website and think it's first class.

Just to let you know that WW1 modellers might be interested to know that we
are just starting work on our first short run injection kit, the Vickers FB5
Gunbus. This should be out this summer with decals and all the usual
trimmings. The range will be the Delta "Wings72".

If that goes okay we are going to do the Maurice Farmen MF.11 next.

With our Delta Decals we are to release a sheet of WW1 German aircraft soon
and later a limited edition booklet/decals (a bit like Aeromaster) featuring
16 Blue Max winners.

Anyone who wants info can contact me at either:

delavpub@aol.com  or delavpub@compuserve.com

or Delta Aviation Publishing
38 Hawksley Avenue
Hillsborough
Sheffield S6 2BE
S. Yorks
England

Tel/Fax:  (0114) 233 4187


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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:56:26 -0600
From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" <panz-meador@vsti.com>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
Message-ID: <01BE5351.AD43A320.panz-meador@vsti.com>

Candice:

although someone else already gave the e-mail for sopwith hobbies, their full address is:

	sopwith hobbies
	p.o. box 560442
	miami, FL  33256-0442
	(305) 665-5730 (voice) ["best 4-9 p.m. EST zone, M-F, 10 a.m.-7 p.m. Saturday"]
	(305) 662-1647 (fax)

it's a couple bucks for their catalog, but well worth it.

HTH,

phillip


-----Original Message-----
From:	Ashley9862@aol.com [SMTP:Ashley9862@aol.com]
Sent:	Sunday, February 07, 1999 10:12 PM
To:	Multiple recipients of list
Subject:	Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc

Hi Guys,

   Does anybody have a preferred source of 1/48 detail sets for WWI aircraft,
specifically weapons (Lewis, Spandau, parabellum), scarf rings.....and all
that good stuff.  I can't stand to do another Photoetch weapons detail torture
session !!

Candice


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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:04:40 -0700
From: "Landon, James D" <james.d.landon@lmco.com>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: JaPo Oeffag Albatros book
Message-ID: <98B98E951BA0D1119A590000F8045A47025166C4@emss02m05.ems.lmco.com>

"mkendix" said:

<<Off to Sea, Land & Air later today (home of the S.E.5a with the crumbled
wing) to purchase some Testors Dullcoat, I definitely prefer it to
Semi-gloss because I think you have to be a really good modeller to get away
with a semi-gloss finish.  Maybe I'll get there one day.>>

Thanks Michael for posting that tidbit.  I think I will look into Dullcoat,
since my modeling abilities are rank amateur.  Besides an old WWI biplane
just "ought to be" dull in MHO.

Jim Landon, Staff Engineer, Lockheed Martin Astronautics Div.
Launch Systems Dept., Electrical Systems Design Group
Phone: (303) 971-1038, Fax: (303) 977-9738 or 977-8323
E-mail: James.D.Landon@lmco.com
WWW: http://www.freeyellow.com/members6/landoni/index.html


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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:15:09 -0700
From: "Mark Shanks" <mshanks@fltdyn.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: RE: JaPo Oeffag Albatros book
Message-ID: <199902081705.JAA01447@mailhost.fltdyn.com>

> "mkendix" said:
> 
> <<Off to Sea, Land & Air later today (home of the S.E.5a with the crumbled
> wing) to purchase some Testors Dullcoat, I definitely prefer it to
> Semi-gloss because I think you have to be a really good modeller to get away
> with a semi-gloss finish.  Maybe I'll get there one day.>>

Jim Landon replied:
 
> Thanks Michael for posting that tidbit.  I think I will look into Dullcoat,
> since my modeling abilities are rank amateur.  Besides an old WWI biplane
> just "ought to be" dull in MHO.

FWIW: I now prefer Humbrol Matte - it is DEAD flat, without 
the peculiar "scaling" or "pearling" I seem to get with Dullcote 
(which I have been using in one form or another since the 60s).

As far as dull - "satin" is a better approach, at least for newer, 
showier aircraft (but I'm currently biased by that one-off Albatross 
Dr I....)

Mark
mshanks@fltdyn.com

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:20:07 -0700 
From: "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" <Michael.Satin@shepards.com>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Finishes, was JaPo Oeffag Albatros book
Message-ID: <5DA4C4BE65D9D111A6FC0060081FD2189E720E@SNEFFELS>


As far as dull - "satin" is a better approach, at least for newer, 
showier aircraft (but I'm currently biased by that one-off Albatross 
Dr I....)

Mark
mshanks@fltdyn.com

I beg your pardon, I don't THINK I'm dull! ;-)  I've tried going to paint
companies and demanding free samples based on unauthorized use of my name,
but no luck so far.  On a more serious note, is "satin" finish glossy enough
for WWI finishes?

Hi ho!
Michael Satin (really!)

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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:31:14 -0700
From: "Landon, James D" <james.d.landon@lmco.com>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Quiet?
Message-ID: <98B98E951BA0D1119A590000F8045A47025166C6@emss02m05.ems.lmco.com>

<<Welcome Great Landoni. I've seen your web page. Good work! Diego
Fernetti>>

Thanks.

	Jim Landon

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:31:56 EST
From: Ashley9862@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
Message-ID: <d6b9fee8.36bf3bac@aol.com>

Hi Bob,
   You must indeed be an optimist on life........

Candice

PS....thanks for the DR1 pics.....came through great

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:39:26 -0800
From: "Jack Berlien" <j-berlien@ti.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Source of Resin/White Metal Guns,Scarf Rings, etc
Message-ID: <000301be53b3$e5529ac0$0730a8c0@rna0186964>

Would someone please remind me how to unsubscribe / re-subscribe under
a different email address?  The web site is unclear whether the commands go
in the Subject field or the first line of the message.

Thanks and best regards,

Jack


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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 06:57:02 +1000 
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Finishes, was JaPo Oeffag Albatros book
Message-ID: <A1654E835D0CD111B0730060B06865CDA9F57F@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

Michael,

> On a more serious note, is "satin"  finish glossy enough
> for WWI finishes?

Strictly speaking, probably not, unless it's a fairly glossy satin. However
in my opinion (and I stress that it's only opinion, not based on any
empirical data) models can stand to be a little less glossy than the real
thing. Whether this is "scale effect" or not I wouldn't know, but a model
made as glossy as many WW1 aircraft appear in photos (EVEN the old and
battered ones) would just look like a toy.

Shane
(anyone need rain? We've had 20+ inches and it's getting a bit damp in my
garage - plays hell with the airbrush)

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 22:08:02 +0100
From: Franco Poloni <frank@lo.itline.it>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: RE: Pegasus Web site
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980208220802.006ab950@lo.itline.it>

>Beautiful isn't it? Having not long completed his 1/72 Pegusus kit of the
>same aircraft in the same scheme it's a pity that I'll probably prefer to
>use a different scheme. 

Shane
looking at the BM box art I wonder how to do the camo of the aft fuselage....
I need a tip.... 

Franco Poloni

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