WWI Digest 1428 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Uggie's Web page by Shane Weier 2) Re: Uggie's Web page by Bob Pearson 3) Re: Uggie's Web page by Mike Dicianna 4) Re: Hit Kit Albatros D.III by Mike Dicianna 5) Re: DH2 struts color by Matthew E Bittner 6) Re: Uggie's Web page by Matthew E Bittner 7) Attn Mike Muth by Matthew E Bittner 8) Re: Union Jack decals by "Peter Crow" 9) Re: Help on Bristol Scout by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 10) Re: Hit Kit Albatros D.III by mkendix 11) RE: Hit Kit Albatros D.III by Shane Weier 12) Re: Hit Kit Albatros D.III by Zulis@aol.com 13) RE: 1999 Toko kits by "Richard Caudron" 14) RE: Maquette/RPM DH9A by "Richard Caudron" 15) Re: February Internet Modeler by KarrArt@aol.com 16) Re: February Internet Modeler by KarrArt@aol.com 17) Re: February Internet Modeler by KarrArt@aol.com 18) RE: Uggie's Web page by "Diego Fernetti" 19) Le Vengeur and Navarre by "Diego Fernetti" 20) Re: Uggie's Web page by "Sandy Adam" 21) Re: Uggie's Web page by Ernest Thomas 22) Re: Uggie's Web page by Matthew E Bittner 23) Re:Scans by bucky@ptdprolog.net 24) Re: DH2 struts color CONFUSED BUNNY STRIKES AGAIN by Dennis Ugulano 25) Re: Help on Bristol Scout by Dennis Ugulano 26) Re: Uggie's Web page by Dennis Ugulano 27) Re: DH2 struts color by fedders 28) Re: DH2 struts color CONFUSED BUNNY STRIKES AGAIN by "David R.L. Laws" 29) Thinning fuselage sides by "David R.L. Laws" 30) Re: Thinning fuselage sides by "Steven M. Perry" 31) fuselage thinning by "Diego Fernetti" 32) Re: Thinning fuselage sides by Bob Pearson 33) Thinning fuselage sides by Bill Neill 34) French profiles by Bob Pearson 35) Re: Uggie's Web page by Pedro e Francisca Soares ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:16:46 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Uggie's Web page Message-ID: Dennis, > Tech Support worked the glitch out of DURAS on my Web > Page and we added two more models to the file. This is > turning out to be a lot of fun. > New models are very nice. The Roland is especially interesting to me since I'd planned to build just that aircraft but so far have turned up no evidence that the scheme shown actually ever existed. Do you mind telling me what your reference was? I'm guessing the old Profile. (Incidentally, even if I can't find photographic evidence, the scheme is very tempting) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:13:52 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Uggie's Web page Message-ID: <199902040413.UAA13909@spare.rapidnet.net> Dennis writes ... > Tech Support worked the glitch out of DURAS on my Web Page and we > added two more models to the file. This is turning out to be a lot of fun. Ain't it tho' !!!!!!! Someone stop me before i update again :-) Bob PS how many more until you make your Y2K goal? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:32:27 +0000 From: Mike Dicianna To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Uggie's Web page Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990203203227.0069f99c@dnc.net> Another couple of great models Dennis....Can't wait for more... Mikedc "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:36:22 +0000 From: Mike Dicianna To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hit Kit Albatros D.III Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990203203622.00695908@dnc.net> At 08:27 PM 2/3/99 -0500, you wrote: >I purchased Hit Kit's 1/72nd scale Albatros D.III (Offag) ser.53/153. I >expect any amount of clean-up inkit due to excess moldings etc. I am not >really able to sculpt the engine out of the pieces of plastic that are >supposed to represent it. In addition, the top wing is missing part of >its trailing edge. > >Is anyone having this problem? Is this the standard for this kit? Does >anyone know of a U.S. address for this company? > >Michael > >My issue of this kit has very well formed fuselage/wings. The rest of the "detail" parts are blobs of white goo! In beginning research on this kit, I am wondering what to do about the engine...a total scratchbuild to make it look right sounds scary....Does anyone produce a resin or white metal correct engine for the Offag versions of the D.III? The extra P/E goodies are kind of worth the price of admission though! >mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu > > > Mikedc "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:40:56 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: DH2 struts color Message-ID: <19990203.224124.-847751.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:56:21 -0500 (EST) "David R.L. Laws" writes: >Does anyone know of a source for the union jack ( makers' ? ) >transfers >which are often seen on English aircraft ?? Pegasus. Even in "your" scale, I think. ;-) Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:40:01 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Uggie's Web page Message-ID: <19990203.224124.-847751.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:05:46 -0500 (EST) Dennis Ugulano writes: > Tech Support worked the glitch out of DURAS on my Web Page and >we >added two more models to the file. This is turning out to be a lot of >fun. Great work! Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:42:48 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Attn Mike Muth Message-ID: <19990203.224256.-847751.3.mbittner@juno.com> Sorry list, but I lost Mike's address. Email me, Mike, please! Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:40:51 PST From: "Peter Crow" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Union Jack decals Message-ID: <19990204044052.17882.qmail@hotmail.com> > >Pete > >Thanks for the heads up and I'm standing by - I now hope your filing >system is better than mine $%$%#@! Filing system... Ha.... that means I would be organized and know where everything is.. anyway, I found them after going through a box that I'd already had gone through.. there no info with mine.. its just a small sheet with assorted sizes.. not sure if its the same thing that Dennis has or not.. what size to you need, and how many?? if its just for one plane, then I can get up off of what you need if I have it.. P. Crow ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:47:07 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Help on Bristol Scout Message-ID: <199902040447.UAA18135@compass.OregonVOS.net> Dennis writes: >Bill, > >> is this the weird set up with the >Lewis gun on the port side of the fuselage firing through the propeller >arc? SN/8996? << > It goes a little further than that. It has a Lewis on both sides >of the cockpit firing through the propeller. > The caption on the photo reads: "Cockpit and side mounted Lewis >guns of a Scout D of No. 2 Wing, R.N.A.S., Imbros. The taping of the >airscrew in the line of fire of the guns can be seen in this photograph." > The guns are mounted in line with the lower attachment of the >cabanes and it appears the rear of the gun is in line with the forward edge >of the cockpit. The guns fire parallel with the fuselage. > Any ideas? OK, I think I have the same photo on page 32 of the datafile. The caption identifies the photo as being taken at Mitylene rather than Imbros but the other data matches yours and the photograph matches yer description. Your question was the color of the cowling? It's tought to tell for sure from the photo but the pattern of the reflections would lead me to think that bare aluminum is more likely than either PC 10 or "battleship grey" on the cowling. This is reinforced, a little, by a series of photos of s/n 8996 of "C" flight of No.2 wing supposedly based at Imbros. This aircraft appears to have retain the bare aluminum cowling while sporting PC 10 on the wings, tailplane, and fuselage decking with CDL on the fuselage sides - a pattern quite similar to the pattern in your cockpit photo. Still, it is tough always distinguish the grey for the bare aluminum in these photos - s/n 8996 -might- have a grey cowling and metal areas but it clearly isn't PC 10. So, that's my best guess - aluminum as a first choice, grey for second, and I'm pretty sure PC 10 is out for the cowling and metal areas. Best of luck - sorry I can't be more definitive. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:47:29 -0500 (EST) From: mkendix To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hit Kit Albatros D.III Message-ID: Mike: On the one hand, "Misery loves company" but on the other, I can't expect a replacement that looks any better. I must admit some relief because when I looked at those engine bits, I wondered if my lack of knowledge /experience was the issue here. I thought, perhaps it's meant to look like some sort of intestinal tract with all those bumps; I'm not an engineer, what do I know? The globs are not confined to the engine parts, unfortunately. I'm going to try and return it. I feel a bit "suckered in" by the photo etch parts. Michael mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Mike Dicianna wrote: > At 08:27 PM 2/3/99 -0500, you wrote: > >I purchased Hit Kit's 1/72nd scale Albatros D.III (Offag) ser.53/153. I > >expect any amount of clean-up inkit due to excess moldings etc. I am not > >really able to sculpt the engine out of the pieces of plastic that are > >supposed to represent it. In addition, the top wing is missing part of > >its trailing edge. > > > >Is anyone having this problem? Is this the standard for this kit? Does > >anyone know of a U.S. address for this company? > > > >Michael > > > >My issue of this kit has very well formed fuselage/wings. The rest of the > "detail" parts are blobs of white goo! In beginning research on this kit, > I am wondering what to do about the engine...a total scratchbuild to make > it look right sounds scary....Does anyone produce a resin or white metal > correct engine for the Offag versions of the D.III? > > The extra P/E goodies are kind of worth the price of admission though! > >mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu > > > > > > > Mikedc > "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:15:09 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Hit Kit Albatros D.III Message-ID: Mike(s) > I am wondering what to do about the engine...a total > scratchbuild to make it look right sounds scary.... > Does anyone produce a resin or white metal > correct engine for the Offag versions of the D.III? Barry at Rosemont has a 200hp Daimler Inline listed in his Roseparts resin line. Umm, should be right (or close enough) for a D.III OEF Rosemonts website is http://www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby or Barry's email is BSTETT3770@AOL.COM ...according to the list ! Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:33:11 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hit Kit Albatros D.III Message-ID: In a message dated 2/3/99 11:38:23PM, Michael wrote; << Is anyone having this problem? Is this the standard for this kit? >> Sounds exactly like mine, too. I could hardly complain, though. They had them in the bargain bin at the local model shop and could probably be persuaded to give them away to any customer who looked as if his heart could take it. I literally looked at the "engine" for a while before I was absolutely sure of what it was supposed to be. They tried to make up for it by sticking an amazing array of decals in the kit, most of them from different sources, judging by their appearance. Not pretty, but perhaps Toko will soon come to the rescue .... Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 07:33:47 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: RE: 1999 Toko kits Message-ID: <000101be5008$52025e80$062b5c8b@PCCE.cim-hardi.be> We are all preying ... But, not only god. Please do not forget Saint Eduard of for some PE. It is in nyway time to order the Aeroclub pack for the gothas. I bought it for my vacu GIV, and it is great, including the guns, engines, screws ... Regards, Richard Caudron > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Franco Poloni > Sent: woensdag 3 februari 1999 19:57 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: 1999 Toko kits > > > > >Gotha G.II,III,IV,Va,Vb > > OOHHH...... > oh my God.......I prey, make it possible.... > > Franco Poloni > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 07:33:41 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: RE: Maquette/RPM DH9A Message-ID: <000001be5008$4e5f9540$062b5c8b@PCCE.cim-hardi.be> I have the ExpoModel one, unbuilt. I am not home for the momnt, but will come back to you on saturday morning, belgian time. Regards, Richard Caudron > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > mkendix > Sent: woensdag 3 februari 1999 19:23 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Maquette/RPM DH9A > > > Has anyone done the 1/72nd scale DH9a with photo etchings? if so, would > you care to comment as to the model's quality, did you havea good > time? etc. > > Michael > > > mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:28:52 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: February Internet Modeler Message-ID: <2ba51831.36b94c34@aol.com> In a message dated 2/1/99 8:10:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, tomwerner.hansen@of.telia.no writes: <<....... the airfield in Northern Finland where Bob went clandestinly to photograph the exterior shots of the Finnish Air Force's most closely guarded secret: the still operational Blenheim squadron the Finns have kept secret from the Russians for years............ Tom>> Nobody's supposed to know about this OR the squadron of OT Nieuports operated just down the road... RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:28:54 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: February Internet Modeler Message-ID: In a message dated 2/1/99 6:59:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, kwenker@interaccess.com writes: << Bob Karr needs to be banned from this group. We can use the public reason that he has modelled too many WWII thingies. That'll work. The real reason, as we all know, is he is just too darn good. We need to reduce the field among us to our lowest common denominator skill level. That means he is out and that Bittner fella is not far behind. OFF WITH THEIR THUMBS. Kevin W >> I NEED my thumbs- that way I can make more WW I things! AND scratch...... RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:28:53 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: February Internet Modeler Message-ID: <44d177d4.36b94c35@aol.com> In a message dated 2/1/99 7:39:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar writes: << And about Mr. Karr... Well, I'm wordless. >> Thanks Diego, and everyone else who said nice and/or rude things about the off-topic low wing monoplane thingy! RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 07:36:58 -0200 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Uggie's Web page Message-ID: <005601be5021$ea2fda20$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Great job in the Salamander camo! The Roland is one of my favorite 2 seaters! very impressive whale, Dennis. And in the right scale too! -----Mensaje original----- De: Dennis Ugulano Para: Multiple recipients of list Fecha: Jueves 4 de Febrero de 1999 2:15 AM Asunto: Uggie's Web page >Everyone, > > Tech Support worked the glitch out of DURAS on my Web Page and we >added two more models to the file. This is turning out to be a lot of fun. > >Dennis Ugulano >email: Uggies@compuserve.com >http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies >Page Revised 2/3/99 > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:15:32 -0200 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Le Vengeur and Navarre Message-ID: <000801be5027$4d7ae980$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> >John & Allison Cyganowski wrote: > >> Say, I think "Le Vengeur" was flown by Eugene Gilbert and not Navarre, >> n'est ce pas? >> >> John Cyg. > >Oui, John, you're right. He downed 2 a/c with it. > >Pedro Yesterday I flipped the pages of Apostolo &Begnozzi's "Storia dell' Aviazione" and states the Gilbert MoS profile as a N model, with a pointy spinner (like those cupolas in the Kremlin) Weird!. Besides, Jean Navarre had a MoS Nm and in order to modify the temeks kit I have to change the spinner for a two-piece deeper one, front decking, add a Hotchkiss 7.7 mm gun and split windshield. And by the same profile, I should keep the stitching in the fuselage side. Further improvements may be done as Monsieur Bittner wisely pointed out. Cowl color were red, heavily weathered and from a photo I have, the MS logo on the starboard side of the cowl was missing. Navarre's ground crew wasn't very perfectionist, ain't them? D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:10:22 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Uggie's Web page Message-ID: <199902041131.LAA00089@beryl.sol.co.uk> Nice models Denis, like the whale-scales. Pity you don't model in Whale Scale! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 06:22:17 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Uggie's Web page Message-ID: <36B990F9.52B4@bellsouth.net> Dennis Ugulano wrote: > > Everyone, > > Tech Support worked the glitch out of DURAS on my Web Page and we > added two more models to the file. Still hating you... E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 07:16:35 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Uggie's Web page Message-ID: <19990204.072205.-909683.3.mbittner@juno.com> On Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:36:44 -0500 (EST) "Diego Fernetti" writes: >Great job in the Salamander camo! The Roland is one of my favorite 2 >seaters! very impressive whale, Dennis. And in the right scale too! AMEN!! Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 08:48:45 -0500 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re:Scans Message-ID: <36B9A53D.B0173E2@ptdprolog.net> Matt If you don't mind sending the scans to Al, I'll try and think up some text. Thanks again. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:51:26 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: DH2 struts color CONFUSED BUNNY STRIKES AGAIN Message-ID: <199902040851_MC2-692D-FF24@compuserve.com> David, After I sent the message, it appears the sheet can be used for both 1/72 and 1/48. If not some of the Union Jacks are going to cover a awful lot of airplane. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 2/3/99 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:51:27 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Help on Bristol Scout Message-ID: <199902040851_MC2-692D-FF28@compuserve.com> Bill, Thank you very much for the Bristol information. Armed with your information I'm back to the modelling table. Watch out X-acto knife, here I come. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 2/3/99 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:51:27 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Uggie's Web page Message-ID: <199902040851_MC2-692D-FF26@compuserve.com> Bob, >> PS how many more until you make your Y2K goal? << The collection presently sits at 85 with two Bristol Scouts under construction. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies Page Revised 2/3/99 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:39:21 -0600 (CST) From: fedders To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: DH2 struts color Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, David R.L. Laws wrote: > Speaking of struts ... > > Does anyone know of a source for the union jack ( makers' ? ) transfers > which are often seen on English aircraft ?? > > thanks > > david > Americals has union jacks on at least some of its Brit sheets. peter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 01:01:34 +1000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: DH2 struts color CONFUSED BUNNY STRIKES AGAIN Message-ID: <36B7133B.2EA9@webtime.com.au> Dennis I think we are at cross-purposes I'm after the jacks which appear as small transfers/ decals on struts, not the old style national flag marking which was replaced by roundels - but appreciate the heads up Very nice models on your site too - You'll have to tell us in rdetail haw you did that hand-painted scale on the Roland - stunning effort ! regards david ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 01:07:01 +1000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Thinning fuselage sides Message-ID: <36B71483.65B6@webtime.com.au> Seeking the collective wisdom on thinning fuselage sides in a bought injection moulded kit of a fabric cover aeroplane Seems to me with all these slab sides one could be a bit clever with clear or very thin card and just replace sections of the chooonky ( shades of Benny Hill if anyone recalls the sketch ) thick plastic about cockpits and other relevant areas with this thinner material Anyone tried it / ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 10:36:51 -0500 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Thinning fuselage sides Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990204103651.00689584@pop.mindspring.com> >Seems to me with all these slab sides one could be a bit clever with >clear or very thin card and just replace sections of the thick plastic about >cockpits and other relevant areas with this thinner material > >Anyone tried it / > David: Sort of. On the Testors Nie 17 I am presently building, I had to replace the bottom of the fuselage with 005 card. This was needed due to sanding the fuselage halves at an angle to make the tapered sides had made the bottom into an inverted vee. I just skinned over it with the card. After sanding, & painting, you cannot tell. On the ICM Ilya Mourmets, there is nice framework & bracing wire detail on top & bottom of the rear fuselage that will be destroyed dealing with the seam between the halves. I plan to join the halves, then remove the sections on the top & bottom of the fuselage and replace them with card that has had the framework & bracing cable detail embossed from the inside. I don't see why radical surgery to thick injection molded fuselage sides cannot be performed and then the whole area skinned over with card. Probably quicker than using the dremel and certianly less messy. sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:19:29 -0200 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "WW1 mailing list" Subject: fuselage thinning Message-ID: <000501be5051$c3329e00$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> A friend of mine had the same feeling about fuselage sides of a FokDVII model in 1/48. I don't remember the brand of the kit (Smerd??). He made patterns of the surfaces between the structure members around sides of the cockpit, cut them on frisket film and applied carefully over the exterior of the kit pieces. Then he traced the shapes, and he would cut them out. Later, he filed and sanded a little of the outer surface of the remaining "formers" left between the holes. He made the cockpit, seat, inst. panel, PE bits, etc. and painted everything.Then he used the patterns to produce the fuselage sides but in thin clear celluloid (he used plastic from a blister package), and applied the interior 5 color lozenge decal. Strips of styrene added to the aft and fore side hole edges (out of view from the cockpit opening) helped the new sides to attach firmly. He didn't glue the back of the formers. If carefully cut, the new sides only need minor sanding/filling in the edges. Note that he used top decking and bottom as provided (thick) to prevent wriggling and distortion of the structure. The unnatural thickness would be hidden by coaming, inst. panel, floor and rear panel/seat. Then he finished the rest of the plane as usual, lozenge decals et al. Results were astounding, he had almost translucent cockpit walls!. I tried to use the same method on my 1/48 Lindberg SE5a, but I chickened out. The plastic is too brittle and I'm too clumsy. I don't know if this method would work well in smaller scales. Regards D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:36:36 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Thinning fuselage sides Message-ID: <199902041636.IAA17447@spare.rapidnet.net> David writes . . Seeking the collective wisdom on thinning fuselage sides in a bought > injection moulded kit of a fabric cover aeroplane > > Seems to me with all these slab sides one could be a bit clever with > clear or very thin card and just replace sections of the chooonky ( > shades of Benny Hill if anyone recalls the sketch ) thick plastic about > cockpits and other relevant areas with this thinner material > > Anyone tried it / The TC resin 1/48 Felixstowe has the interior cleared out, except it has 1/4 thick walls which will be visible below the cockpit opening as a shelf. I cut away the sides of the hull at the cockpit and replaced it with plastic card . . haven't decided about the rear posistion yet. Regards, Bob Pearson Visit my WW1 aviation page at http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1 Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:14:53 -0500 From: Bill Neill To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Thinning fuselage sides Message-ID: <199902041215_MC2-6945-701E@compuserve.com> Start with a vacform! Bill Neill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:22:54 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: French profiles Message-ID: <199902041722.JAA17823@spare.rapidnet.net> Greetings all, As requested I have added some French profiles to my page. This time there are 18 of them from Escadrilles 12, 15, 87, 158 and 4 unknowns (Naval Sopwith Triplane, 2 SPAD A.2s and black-nosed MS N 393). Regards, Bob Pearson Visit my WW1 aviation page at http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1 Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:09:49 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Uggie's Web page Message-ID: <36B9F07D.5FDA014D@mail.telepac.pt> Diego Fernetti wrote: > Great job in the Salamander camo! The Roland is one of my favorite 2 > seaters! very impressive whale, Dennis. And in the right scale too! > -. Couldn't agree more. Great Stuff Dennis! The remnants of my failed whale are still in the garage... I wanted it to look like yours... Oh well, now that you did it, no need for me to bother, I guess :-) In the past days I've seen so many beautiful models that I'm really getting the urge for finishing something. Thanks. Um abraco Pedro ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1428 **********************