WWI Digest 1426 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Wicker seats? Was: DH-2 by "Tom Werner Hansen" 2) Re: Wicker seats? Was: DH-2 by Matthew E Bittner 3) Re: MoS Type I by Matthew E Bittner 4) Re: FMP sale by "Sandy Adam" 5) Le Vengeur by John & Allison Cyganowski 6) RE: Finding a pilot (Bertrab/Bertrass) by Mick Fauchon 7) RE: Finding a pilot (Bertrab/Bertrass) by Shane Weier 8) Re: Finding a pilot (Bertrab/Bertrass) by "David Vosburgh" 9) Re: Hello all! by Pedro e Francisca Soares 10) New images by Matthew E Bittner 11) Re: Wicker seats? Was: DH-2 by Bill Neill 12) 1999 Toko kits by Bob Pearson 13) RE: 1999 Toko kits by Shane Weier 14) RE: Wicker seats? Was: DH-2 by "Robert Woodbury" 15) Re: 1999 Toko kits by Matthew E Bittner 16) Re: 1999 Toko kits by mkendix 17) Re: 1999 Toko kits by Matthew E Bittner 18) Re: FMP sale by Bob Pearson 19) RE: 1999 Toko kits by "Steven M. Perry" 20) Re: Ugulano's planes by Dennis Ugulano 21) Eduard Hannover CL III Help by Ashley9862@aol.com 22) Re: Eduard Hannover CL III Help by Bob Pearson 23) Re: Ugulano's planes by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 24) Re: Eduard Hannover CL III Help by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 25) Re: Help on Bristol Scout by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 26) SSDr1 by "Diego Fernetti" 27) Re: SSDr1 by Dennis Ugulano 28) Re: Help on Bristol Scout by Dennis Ugulano 29) Off topic? by Carlos Valdes ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:34:14 +0100 From: "Tom Werner Hansen" To: Subject: Re: Wicker seats? Was: DH-2 Message-ID: <199902022028.VAA22089@d1o211.telia.com> Dane. Maybe you'd be interested in what Robert K wrote about this subject before he went off on his trip to Finland to photograph "his" Blenheim.: I hope he doesn't mind, this would probably be sitting somewhere in the archives anyway. Tom. He wrote: Wicker seats Anyway, as for silk- what I have been doing for wicker seats is taking a square of pantyhose nylon ( oh, maybe 2"x2"), and stretching it out with straight pins stuck in a block of balsa wood so it resembles a small trampoline. This opens the weave and then I slobber on some "wicker" colored craft acrylic. I blow the excess out of the tiny holes in the weave and repeat the process when the first coat is dry.When completely dry, I de-pin the thing and I've got a sheet of woven wicker stock that I can cut several seats from. I use nylon for this because it doesn't fuzz up, and it's strechy- at least before I get done with it! I can't really explain it all- maybe I'll do an article abpout this sometime- the process really needs pictures. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:52:35 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Wicker seats? Was: DH-2 Message-ID: <19990202.160043.-845115.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:59:18 -0500 (EST) "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> writes: >How about sculpting wicker seats from Milliput or A+B? Why not check out Steven Perry's site, and use his tips? Go to: http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/PWWIP.htm Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:55:26 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: MoS Type I Message-ID: <19990202.160043.-845115.3.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:47:50 -0500 (EST) "Richard Caudron" writes: >Matthew, What a wonderfull kit. Thanks. >I went on the site, and discover it. >Thanks for all the tips. Hope they help! >I never saw before a Temek kit in Western Europe. Is that a new label >? Not really new. They're a company out of Belarus, but I saw on Hannants that Eastern Express now has the mold and/or distribution rights. Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:45:06 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: FMP sale Message-ID: <199902022344.XAA04887@beryl.sol.co.uk> Thanks for the tip Bob - I was about to order the soft cover books anyway - you've just saved me some money! Anybody know if they have an e-mail address (maybe I'm just blind, but couldn't see one on web page?) Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:43:52 -0500 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Le Vengeur Message-ID: <36B78DB8.3DDB@worldnet.att.net> Say, I think "Le Vengeur" was flown by Eugene Gilbert and not Navarre, n'est ce pas? John Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:44:02 +1100 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Finding a pilot (Bertrab/Bertrass) Message-ID: Shane, > > No, I'd still go with red on [camouflage] purple. See > > my up-coming post to Dave V. for a more detailed account. > > Not fair mate. I've been waiting on you for ages and still no post about > the JvB Albatros D.III Eh?!!! I sent it the other day. Did anybody else get it? In case I have to re-cap., which particular part of my hare-brained theory were you interested in? > The Profipack version of the Eduard Albatros D.III includes the comet > marking (in eccchhy pink and white) and tells you to paint the fuselage "WW1 > Purple". Maybe, but I'd have thought it'd predate the general use of > German purple in camo schemes so *if* it's really purple the paint may just > a s likely be locally mixed. Yep, that "red" makes you want to puke.....I'd go with a darker red, rather than black, which doesn't make a lot of sense for a comet. > > FWIW, I doubt if it's purple. With ortho film it'd need to be a very reddish > (liver coloured) purple to be as black as it appears. JUST an off the cuff > opinion. I'd love to hear Rimells and other expertens analyses. Going from the enlargement I have, I'd go with purple, as the black outling og the EKs stands out quite distinctly against it. So is it the same motif as on the captured Ni.-17? I'd like to hazard a tentative "likely". ????? Cheers, Mick. -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:00:43 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Finding a pilot (Bertrab/Bertrass) Message-ID: Mick, > > > > No, I'd still go with red on [camouflage] purple. See > > > my up-coming post to Dave V. for a more detailed account. > > Not fair mate. I've been waiting on you for ages and still > > no post about the JvB Albatros D.III > > Eh?!!! I sent it the other day. Did anybody else get it? > In case I have to re-cap., which particular part of my > hare-brained theory were you interested in? Well, I never saw it. This mornings was the third Mick F post since the post quoted above. None of the others was about JvB. > > > > The Profipack version of the Eduard Albatros D.III includes > > the comet marking (in eccchhy pink and white) > Yep, that "red" makes you want to puke.....I'd go with > a darker red, rather than black, which doesn't make a lot of sense for a comet. Frankly, neither makes much sense. FWIW the Superscale sheet says the comet is yellow with grey outlines. BUT assuming the photo was taken with ortho film (likely) both yellow and red would photograph in dark tones which may be why Eduard went with the odd faded tone. Standard disclaimers apply of course, but if it's yellow it'd need to be a greenish yellow (lemon) rather than a reddish (chrome) yellow. Again, FWIW I think this is a subject where you can just please yourself and dare the damned critics prove you wrong. > Going from the enlargement I have, I'd go with purple, > as the black outling og the EKs stands out quite distinctly against it. FWIW I can see the border around the fuselage cross. And I don't believe that its appearance as a different tone from the fuselage means it's a different colour *because* in places it seems darker than the fuselage and in other places lighter. This is a consequence of the reflection of light, and I think indicates not a different colour, but a different surface finish (matt vs gloss, brushed vs sprayed, old vs new) or subsurface (white cross surrounds or ply fuselage) seen through slightly translucent paint. In any case there is so much doubt that any "judge" who damns your interpretation is no judge, so to speak. > So is it the same motif as on the captured Ni.-17? I'd > like to hazard a tentative "likely". ????? Afraid I have no idea what captured Nie you're on about. It doesn't look the least bit like the Belgian comets recently discussed though. Another lovely mystery. Don't you just love WW1? An absolute horror story for all those FS-deck wielding self proclaimed authorities :-) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:03:05 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Finding a pilot (Bertrab/Bertrass) Message-ID: <000e01be4f10$f6cdb520$14d690d0@Pvosburg> ----Original Message----- From: Mick Fauchon Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 9:22 PM Subject: RE: Finding a pilot (Bertrab/Bertrass) <> > Eh?!!! I sent it the other day. Did anybody else get it? Nope. But if it's any consolation, Mick, I had two posts to the list go awry over the weekend... I hit "Reply To" as usual, and they apparently never made it to the server. > Cheers, > > Mick. Prosit, DV ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:12:31 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hello all! Message-ID: <36B7865E.8EFC4F31@mail.telepac.pt> Yak23Flora wrote: > Hi guys! Great to have you back Scott. I too have been looking every now and then at your Model Forum for news.... Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:47:53 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: New images Message-ID: <19990202.204754.-883197.0.mbittner@juno.com> There are some new images on my club's site. Go to: http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook/ww1.html and look in the France, Germany and Italy section. Wonderful models! Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:31:00 -0500 From: Bill Neill To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Wicker seats? Was: DH-2 Message-ID: <199902022231_MC2-6900-E2A@compuserve.com> Yes, I did consider weaving up a seat a la Steve Perry, but nitpicker that I am I fast came to the conclusion that doing a reasonably to scale seat would take about the same work as making a 1:1 example. That's when I started looking for pre woven stuff of about the right texture. Panty hose sounds about right, my wife does not wear them, and opportunties to closely examine the weave are therefore limited. :-) Bill Neill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:28:19 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: 1999 Toko kits Message-ID: <199902030328.TAA04390@spare.rapidnet.net> Grettings all, A freind in Slovakia has forwarded the following list of upcoming Toko kits to me .... the last one seems interesting. . Bob ---------- I got infos about new TOKO models under construction for the Year 1999: 1/72: Hansa Brandenburg D.I Berg D.I Fokker E.V Fokker D.VI Fokker Dr.1 Sopwith 1 1/2 in following variants: - two seater-fighter - two-seater-bomber - single-seater-bomber - night fighter - training A/C Sopwith Salamander Nieuport XVI with skies Gotha G.II,III,IV,Va,Vb 1/48: Polikarpov I-15 Gladiator ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:46:28 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: 1999 Toko kits Message-ID: Bob, > I got infos about new TOKO models under construction for the > Year 1999: > 1/72: > Hansa Brandenburg D.I > Berg D.I > Fokker E.V > Fokker D.VI > Fokker Dr.1 > Sopwith 1 1/2 in following variants: > - two seater-fighter > - two-seater-bomber > - single-seater-bomber > - night fighter > - training A/C > Sopwith Salamander > Nieuport XVI with skies > Gotha G.II,III,IV,Va,Vb > Salamander is already available I believe. But the dinky scale Gothas sound promising Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:51:55 +0800 From: "Robert Woodbury" To: Subject: RE: Wicker seats? Was: DH-2 Message-ID: <000301be4f28$8a87e300$91107482@robertw-pc-fl.per.clw.csiro.au> > Yes, I did consider weaving up a seat a la Steve Perry, but nitpicker that > I am I fast came to the conclusion that doing a reasonably to scale seat > would take about the same work as making a 1:1 example. That's when I > started looking for pre woven stuff of about the right texture. > Panty hose sounds about right, my wife does not wear them, and > opportunties > to closely examine the weave are therefore limited. :-) > Bill, I have to agree with you- though I actually spent the time weaving one and just wasn't happy with the results. I too have to rely on the observations of others when it comes to the weave of pantyhose. Back to the DH2 though. Reading the construction notes and the Datafile last night I did note that struts were apparently painted in light grey. However, going through my photos of British AC for WWI (taken at various museums) I note that the vast majority had natural wood varnished struts. Also interesting to note towards the back of the data file is a photo of part of a strut with the Airco decal on it and it's clearly a light coloured wood. Any comments? Rob (Still looking for a better mousetrap or wicker seat) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:54:09 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1999 Toko kits Message-ID: <19990202.215543.-845069.3.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:38:29 -0500 (EST) Bob Pearson writes: >A freind in Slovakia has forwarded the following list of upcoming Toko >kits >to me .... the last one seems interesting. . Superb. Was there any VVS on the list, or was that the total list? The E.V is another "why" (like the W.29), but the rest is welcome. Well, we shall see about the Dr.I, as compared to Hawkeye. Yes, Hawkeye is a lot more expensive, but is the ultimate Dr.I. :-) Have you thought anymore about the Roseplane Hanriot? Matt ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:13:06 -0500 (EST) From: mkendix To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1999 Toko kits Message-ID: Matt: Of course, I wouldn't want to discourage _any_ manufacturer from making a WWI kit but I wonder why there are all those Sopwith Strutters, given that Eduard currently has 2 excellent kits - a 1 and a 2 seater. Still, a little competition never did consumers any harm. Shane's right, I have the Sopwith Salamander kit. Michael mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Matthew E Bittner wrote: > On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:38:29 -0500 (EST) Bob Pearson > writes: > > >A freind in Slovakia has forwarded the following list of upcoming Toko > >kits > >to me .... the last one seems interesting. . > > Superb. > > Was there any VVS on the list, or was that the total list? > > The E.V is another "why" (like the W.29), but the rest is welcome. Well, > we shall see about the Dr.I, as compared to Hawkeye. Yes, Hawkeye is a > lot more expensive, but is the ultimate Dr.I. :-) > > Have you thought anymore about the Roseplane Hanriot? > > > Matt > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:17:35 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1999 Toko kits Message-ID: <19990202.222312.-897935.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:53:27 -0500 (EST) Matthew E Bittner writes: Sorry, list, about posting a personal message. DOH! Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:21:03 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: FMP sale Message-ID: <199902030421.UAA04819@spare.rapidnet.net> Sandy, I didn't see any email address on the sale page either .. . just snail, phone and fax Bob ---------- > From: "Sandy Adam" > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: FMP sale > Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:44:37 -0500 (EST) > > Thanks for the tip Bob - I was about to order the soft cover books anyway - > you've just saved me some money! > Anybody know if they have an e-mail address (maybe I'm just blind, but > couldn't see one on web page?) > Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:36:20 -0500 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: 1999 Toko kits Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990202233620.00a40154@pop.mindspring.com> At 10:45 PM 2/2/99 -0500, you wrote: >Bob, > > >> I got infos about new TOKO models under construction for the >> Year 1999: >> 1/72: >> Hansa Brandenburg D.I >> Berg D.I >> Fokker E.V >> Fokker D.VI >> Fokker Dr.1 >> Sopwith 1 1/2 in following variants: >> - two seater-fighter >> - two-seater-bomber >> - single-seater-bomber >> - night fighter >> - training A/C >> Sopwith Salamander >> Nieuport XVI with skies >> Gotha G.II,III,IV,Va,Vb >> > >Salamander is already available I believe. But the dinky scale Gothas sound >promising > >Shane An interesting note on the Salamander. At tonights club meeting someone threw a bagged Pegasus Salamander into the raffle pile with the comment, "I have the Toko kit now." Unfortunately I missed it. sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:23:06 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Ugulano's planes Message-ID: <199902030023_MC2-6908-51EE@compuserve.com> D, >> I never knew the Siemens triplane before. It looked like a very dangerous war machine, specially for the pilot... << It was very dangerous. It only got a few feet off the ground on its maiden flight and crashed. There are only 2 known photos of the plane. One in pristine condition and the other, how do you say in English, broke. It was never rebuilt. As the comments in the reference made, it seemed strange that a triplane was being built this late in the war. While making the kit, my thoughts went to the pilot trying to get in and out under the best of conditions. But it was a fun project and I thank you for your comments. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:27:40 EST From: Ashley9862@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Eduard Hannover CL III Help Message-ID: <92f08e13.36b7de4c@aol.com> Hi Guys, I've been monitoring this group for over a year now....but I haven't seen anything on the project I am currently starting....the eduard Hannover C3......does anybody have any tips, clues, advice before I start this thing Candice Uhlir ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:38:17 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Eduard Hannover CL III Help Message-ID: <199902030538.VAA05319@spare.rapidnet.net> Candice, Sorry I can't help with the build, however since many of us have the kit could you please post your experiences as you build it. I can offer ideas for other markings for it though :-) And a belated welcome to the list. Regards, Bob Pearson Visit my WW1 aviation page at http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1 Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn/ ---------- > From: Ashley9862@aol.com > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Eduard Hannover CL III Help > Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:27:45 -0500 (EST) > > Hi Guys, > I've been monitoring this group for over a year now....but I haven't seen > anything on the project I am currently starting....the eduard Hannover > C3......does anybody have any tips, clues, advice before I start this thing > > Candice Uhlir ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:09:24 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Ugulano's planes Message-ID: <199902030609.WAA29937@compass.OregonVOS.net> Dennis writes: >>> I never knew >the Siemens triplane before. It looked like a very dangerous war machine, >specially for the pilot... << > It was very dangerous. It only got a few feet off the ground on >its maiden flight and crashed. There are only 2 known photos of the plane. > One in pristine condition and the other, how do you say in English, broke. "Triplanes" by Bowers and McDowell has two photos of this bird - a front three-quarters and a rear three-quarters shot - both in pristine condition. Make that at least three known photos, I think. > It was never rebuilt. As the comments in the reference made, it seemed >strange that a triplane was being built this late in the war. Well, the first (and only) flight was in November of 1917 - while the Fokker Dr.I and the Pfalz triplanes were still in production and, indeed, while Fokker was still screwing around with the absurd appearing V.8 -quintuple- plane. At this stage of aircraft development, the ideal arrangement was still far from fixed. Sopwith played around with a Tripehound in the postwar period, I believe, indicating that even as late as 1919, some folks still saw promise in the multiplane design. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 10:19:03 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard Hannover CL III Help Message-ID: <36B89317.5441@ricochet.net> Ashley9862@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Guys, > I've been monitoring this group for over a year now....but I haven't seen > anything on the project I am currently starting....the eduard Hannover > C3......does anybody have any tips, clues, advice before I start this thing Although I've not built the kit, I remember several things. First of all, certain parts provided in the photo etch, such as the intake manifold, control stick(?) and others do not look right in two dimensions. Check references carefully. Also, there are no grenade racks or flare 'loops' for the sides or top of the fuselage around the observer/gunner's cockpit. Either one or the other of these are present in most photos of this 'plane. Empty grenade racks would be fairly easy to scratch. Lozenge decals too bright (Aeromaster 5-color is a reasonable, generally available alternative) and color profiles not really accurate. Most C.IIs/IIIs/IIIas had their irregular fuselage lozenge oversprayed with dark green or blue. Koster Aero Enterprises sells the decal sheet from their excellent C.II/III vac kit (which has both grenade racks and flare loops) separately for around $4. Highly recommended. FWIW, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:25:03 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Help on Bristol Scout Message-ID: <199902030825.AAA05838@compass.OregonVOS.net> Dennis U writes: > >All, > > I presently have under construction the Bristol Scout by AEROCLUB >and LIBRAMODELS (yes, I'm building two at the same time) and need some help >with the colors on one version I'm building. > > In PROFILE 139 page 11, a photo shows an excellent cockpit shot of >one Scout stationed at Imbros. I want to build this one because of the >very unusual Lewis gun set up. Not having the Profile, I must ask, is this the weird set up with the Lewis gun on the port side of the fuselage firing through the propellor arc? SN/8996? Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:45:02 -0200 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "WW1 mailing list" Subject: SSDr1 Message-ID: <005601be4f59$dff03e60$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> >But it was a fun project and I thank you for your comments. > >>Dennis Ugulano > You're welcome, Dennis. Interesting story about this freaky plane. Sometimes I wonder why the german high command allowed such a strange machines and in the same time another highly effective and modern designs. It looks as they haven't a clue about wich way to go when they ordered prototypes. So were the british. Have you seen the stange multiplanes designed for coastal command? I don't remember exactly, but an article of them appeared in Aviation History Magazine last year. Indeed they were intrepid men in their flying (?) machines. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:56:58 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: SSDr1 Message-ID: <199902030757_MC2-6906-590E@compuserve.com> D, >> Have you seen the stange multiplanes designed for coastal command? I don't remember exactly, but an article of them appeared in Aviation History Magazine last year. Indeed they were intrepid men in their flying (?) machines. << No, I haven't seen this but I agree with you about strange. That's one of the reasons why I like WW1 aviation. At the time of WW1, man had been in the air with powered flight about 10 years and now they are turning their planes into war machines. I like the beginnings of eras and this is definitely a beginning. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:56:57 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Help on Bristol Scout Message-ID: <199902030757_MC2-6906-590D@compuserve.com> Bill, >> is this the weird set up with the Lewis gun on the port side of the fuselage firing through the propeller arc? SN/8996? << It goes a little further than that. It has a Lewis on both sides of the cockpit firing through the propeller. The caption on the photo reads: "Cockpit and side mounted Lewis guns of a Scout D of No. 2 Wing, R.N.A.S., Imbros. The taping of the airscrew in the line of fire of the guns can be seen in this photograph." The guns are mounted in line with the lower attachment of the cabanes and it appears the rear of the gun is in line with the forward edge of the cockpit. The guns fire parallel with the fuselage. Any ideas? Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/uggies ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:55:48 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Off topic? Message-ID: <36B85564.6EC4@conted.gatech.edu> In case anyone's searching for a scratch-building project . . . Carlos W. E. Moeckel Theoretical aerodynamic coefficients of two-dimensional supersonic biplanes NACA TN 1316, Jun 1947, pp. 33. Abstract: The effect of varying the design of supersonic biplanes has been theoretically investigated to determine the configuration required for optimum aerodynamic performance. The investigation was chiefly concerned with biplanes having lower and upper airfoils of equal chord length and of triangular cross section. In case anyone wants to read it, it can be found at: http://naca.larc.nasa.gov/reports/1947/naca-tn-1316/ ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1426 **********************