WWI Digest 1425 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: February Internet Modeler by Matthew E Bittner 2) Re: Feb. IM by Matthew E Bittner 3) Re: February Internet Modeler by Pedro e Francisca Soares 4) RE: February Internet Modeler by Shane Weier 5) RE: February Internet Modeler by "Chris Banyai-Riepl" 6) Hello all! by Yak23Flora 7) Re: Work in progress..... by Bill Neill 8) RE: Work in progress..... by "Robert Woodbury" 9) Re: Hello all! by Matthew E Bittner 10) Re: Hello all! by Kevin Wenker 11) Re: Hello all! by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) 12) RE: Hello all! by "John Glaser" 13) Jean Navarre by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 14) FMP sale by Bob Pearson 15) Re: [Re: Hello all!] by Yak23Flora 16) RE: February Internet Modeler by Bob Pearson 17) Re: [Re: Hello all!] by Yak23Flora 18) RE: FMP sale by "Robert Woodbury" 19) Re: Web page at last! by Dennis Ugulano 20) Re: February Internet Modeler by Mike Fletcher 21) Re: FMP sale by Mike Fletcher 22) RE: Jean Navarre by "Diego Fernetti" 23) fund raising in SA by "Diego Fernetti" 24) RE: Jean Navarre by "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" 25) Help on Bristol Scout by Dennis Ugulano 26) 1/167 survivors by Dennis Ugulano 27) Re: MoS Type I by Matthew E Bittner 28) Ugulano's planes by "Diego Fernetti" 29) RE: Blue Max DH2 interior by Bill Neill 30) RE: Visit to UK - Science Museum by knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 31) RE: MoS Type I by "Richard Caudron" 32) Wicker seats? Was: DH-2 by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:05:12 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: February Internet Modeler Message-ID: <19990201.160750.-846057.4.mbittner@juno.com> Thanks to everybody for the kind words. If it wasn't for this list, my WW1 building would be even more infrequent. :-) Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:05:45 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Feb. IM Message-ID: <19990201.160750.-846057.5.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:08:43 -0500 (EST) "Steven M. Perry" writes: >Of course, when the subject is WWI, well, it's only better. Matt, your MoS >is a first rate piece of work! So stop Lagg-ing behind and fooling with >Il-usions and let's see that Strutter finished :-) Oooo...you cheeky devil! :-) Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 22:54:22 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: February Internet Modeler Message-ID: <36B6309D.B1F49487@mail.telepac.pt> Kevin Wenker wrote: > Bob Pearson wrote: > > > > Greetings all, > > > > Before Matt or Pedro scoop me yet again I'll announce that the new Internet > > Modeler is now up. > > Thanks for a nice issue, Bob. One thing, though, which is really > peripheral to IM, but a direct result of it (huh?!?!): Bob Karr needs > to be banned from this group. We can use the public reason that he has > modelled too many WWII thingies. That'll work. The real reason, as we > all know, is he is just too darn good. We need to reduce the field > among us to our lowest common denominator skill level. That means he is > out and that Bittner fella is not far behind. OFF WITH THEIR THUMBS. > > Kevin W Kev, You have my vote. Off with them. and while at it ban that fellow Pearson too, and the other with the strange surname (after all he is as guilty as the rest of them).... (oh I wish it was March already :-) Thanks a bunch guys, you're a continuous source of inspiration .......(and envy ;-)....) Um abraco Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:11:09 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: February Internet Modeler Message-ID: Kevin, > We can use the public reason that he has > modelled too many WWII thingies. That'll work. The real > reason, as we > all know, is he is just too darn good. We need to reduce the field > among us to our lowest common denominator skill level. That > means he is out and that Bittner fella is not far behind. OFF WITH THEIR THUMBS. > SECONDED ! Hey, and that Bittner creep even admits that he only builds WW1 stuff because we MAKE him. Hah! Now we know the horrid little pervert doesn't really belong here with his teeny weeny (and his little models too ;-) Great big ;-) Hey, Chris, Bob, RK, Matt, Tom (etc) - great issue even if the WW1 content is a trifle small (or a small trifle) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:33:32 -0800 From: "Chris Banyai-Riepl" To: Subject: RE: February Internet Modeler Message-ID: <002e01be4e3b$47beb4b0$9b4ffbce@chris> > You have my vote. Off with them. and while at it ban that fellow > Pearson too, and > the other with the strange surname (after all he is as guilty as > the rest of > them).... > Oh, sure, blame the messenger..... Chris Banyai-Riepl Publisher/Editor Internet Modeler http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn ------------------------------ Date: 1 Feb 99 18:47:52 CST From: Yak23Flora To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Hello all! Message-ID: <19990202004752.22319.qmail@ww183.netaddress.usa.net> Hi guys! I'm returning to the list after a year or so absence, hope all is well and the gang is still tight. I missed all the great banter and superb info! I'm using a dedicated mail account for this list, and I hope to be a participant often, but I may lurk for stints from time to time. Anyway, glad to be back! Cheers! Scott M. Head IPMS/Houston Scale Model Forum http://web-hou.iapc.net/~smh ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:56:18 -0500 From: Bill Neill To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Work in progress..... Message-ID: <199902011956_MC2-68D5-951A@compuserve.com> Sopwith Triplane (Eduard). Basically together, waiting for the paint to cure, then decalling and final assembly. I think I need to be in the right mood to get that stack of wings together correctly. I got all the joints fixed up with brass pins, so should be a case of stack it all up, cajole it into shape, then run superglue into the joints. DH2 (Blue Max) Got ot all trimmed out and cleaned, and the nacelle mostly done. The kit interior looks lumpy, so I think I am going to clean out the existing detail, and redo it with etched brass and stuff. This is a very visible cockpit! Bill Neill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:43:39 +0800 From: "Robert Woodbury" To: Subject: RE: Work in progress..... Message-ID: <000701be4e4d$7514d360$91107482@robertw-pc-fl.per.clw.csiro.au> > > DH2 (Blue Max) > Got ot all trimmed out and cleaned, and the nacelle mostly done. The kit > interior looks lumpy, so I think I am going to clean out the existing > detail, and redo it with etched brass and stuff. This is a very visible > cockpit! > Bill, It sounds like you're racing ahead there. What are you doing about the wicker seat? Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:39:25 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hello all! Message-ID: <19990201.204603.-842525.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:49:57 -0500 (EST) Yak23Flora writes: >Hi guys! I'm returning to the list after a year or so absence, hope >all is >well and the gang is still tight. I missed all the great banter and >superb >info! I say we ban him just because of his email "name". Gads... :-) Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:09:14 -0600 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hello all! Message-ID: <36B66C5A.5A3A9B69@interaccess.com> OH NO. You can't change the subject and get off that easy. NO, NO, NO. Go build a Williams Bros B-10. Matthew E Bittner wrote: > On Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:49:57 -0500 (EST) Yak23Flora > writes: > > >Hi guys! I'm returning to the list after a year or so absence, hope > >all is > >well and the gang is still tight. I missed all the great banter and > >superb > >info! > > I say we ban him just because of his email "name". Gads... :-) > > Matt Bittner > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:18:09 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hello all! Message-ID: Scott says: >>Hi guys! I'm returning to the list after a year or so absence Matt retorts: >I say we ban him just because of his email "name". Gads... :-) I say: Welcome back Scott! Loved your old IPMS web site (particularly the photos of your Hannover Cl.III model). Anything new and on-topic there? And...by the way...how about changing that E-mail name! Gak! Kevin Barrett. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:04:26 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: Hello all! Message-ID: <000401be4e61$1f866c10$40464a0c@jg_notebook> Welcome back fellow Houstonian! Now there's three of us - Phillip, Scott & me. We could be more than 50% of the WW1 modelers in Houston :). - John -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu] On Behalf Of Yak23Flora Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 6:51 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Hello all! Hi guys! I'm returning to the list after a year or so absence, hope all is well and the gang is still tight. I missed all the great banter and superb info! I'm using a dedicated mail account for this list, and I hope to be a participant often, but I may lurk for stints from time to time. Anyway, glad to be back! Cheers! Scott M. Head IPMS/Houston Scale Model Forum http://web-hou.iapc.net/~smh ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:17:09 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Jean Navarre Message-ID: <199902020417.UAA29752@compass.OregonVOS.net> Diego Fernetti writes: >-snips-In fact, I always >wanted to have a Jean Navarre's MS (don't know exactly what type) and M. Navarre's aircraft was a Type "L" parasol, I believe. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:57:34 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: FMP sale Message-ID: <199902020457.UAA29163@spare.rapidnet.net> Greetings all, There is a sale on at Flying Machines Press. All of the softcovers and a few of the hard covers are at 40-50% off. FMP can be found at http://www.flying-machines.com now everyone can have a copy of the VC book on their shelf :-) Regards, Bob Pearson Visit my WW1 aviation page at http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1 ------------------------------ Date: 1 Feb 99 23:13:38 CST From: Yak23Flora To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: [Re: Hello all!] Message-ID: <19990202051338.12952.qmail@ww181.netaddress.usa.net> Matt wrote: > I say we ban him just because of his email "name". Gads... :-) Well, at least it was a crappy plane, even if it had no rigging! I should have thought of that before- maybe it should have been Ansaldo or Balila or something more appropriate, eh? But I've always had a knack for trying to put square pegs in round holes. I see the group is just as lively as always, and I guess I ought to get out my flak jacket and keep it close! Glad to be back, and glad so many of the fellows I remember are still at it! Cheers! Scott M. Head ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:14:07 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: RE: February Internet Modeler Message-ID: <199902020514.VAA29290@spare.rapidnet.net> Diego, As Presentation machines are sorta on-topic I'll answer here. As was the practice in WW1, during WW2 groups and individuals could 'purchase' an aircraft, tank or whatever they wanted for the war effort. Such machines were deemed to have been "Presented" to the armed forces and carried the name of the donor. The cost of nine Whirlwinds was raised by the Bellows Foundation of South America. I'm not sure if this was confined to Argentina or not.. Regards, Bob PS does anyone know where I can find another catalog of all the Phoenix Phollies? Mine was lost when I moved five years ago. Are they still available? ---------- > From: "Diego Fernetti" > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: February Internet Modeler > Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:37:41 -0500 (EST) > > I'm very impressed again. I have an abandoned MS from temeks gathering dust > on my shelves, and Monsieur Bittner article demonstrates what a beautiful > plane it could be with a little work and a lot of skill. In fact, I always > wanted to have a Jean Navarre's MS (don't know exactly what type) and M. > Bittner has inspired me again. Maybe one of this days I'll face the > challenge. > Off topic question: Mr. Pearson did a great job again, the tank, > mousquettiËre and profiles. The intriguing fact is the legend on the > Whirlwind "Bellows Argentina N† 2". Would you explain this for me off list, > Bob? Thanks. > And about Mr. Karr... Well, I'm wordless. ------------------------------ Date: 1 Feb 99 23:28:04 CST From: Yak23Flora To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: [Re: Hello all!] Message-ID: <19990202052804.9475.qmail@ww183.netaddress.usa.net> wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu wrote: > Scott says: > > >>Hi guys! I'm returning to the list after a year or so absence > > Matt retorts: > > >I say we ban him just because of his email "name". Gads... :-) > > I say: > > Welcome back Scott! Loved your old IPMS web site (particularly the photos > of your Hannover Cl.III model). Anything new and on-topic there? And...by > the way...how about changing that E-mail name! Gak! Zip-O, no updates to content on the IPMS/Houston website yet (yeah, I know, it's been ages- I've been busy and family matters have taken attention from it for a while, but the club is in a fresh new mode and updates will begin again in earnest this coming month). That Hannover is still not finished! I bought a kit from one of you ages ago to get the lower tailplanes and haven't installed them yet- talk about lazy! Been working on a Toko Pfalz though- neat kit, fun, E-Z! As for the name, I guess I'll just have to rub some folks the wrong way- Matt already proposed a ban, and I've only been back a few hours! Whew! ;-) Actually, if you read Yak23Flora backwards, it spells Arolf 32 "Kay", the little known but all-important triplane version of the Arolf 30 "Minnie" of 1916. I don't have to tell anyone here that the Arolf line of seaplanes were instrumental in securing the Caspian Sea frontier in the Kosmliev Uprising of 1918. Of course everyone knew that! Cheers! Scott M. Head, banned ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:37:02 +0800 From: "Robert Woodbury" To: Subject: RE: FMP sale Message-ID: <000001be4e6e$0f681100$91107482@robertw-pc-fl.per.clw.csiro.au> Thanks for the tip Bob. I'm ordering some stuff! Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:38:27 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Web page at last! Message-ID: <199902020038_MC2-68DC-FC14@compuserve.com> >> Nice Voisin. I'm still amazed at how fast you can put such complicated kits together. << Had to think about this for a few days. I think I have built vacs and poor kits for so long that if you give me a good injection mold, it falls together for me. Thank all of you for your nice comments on the web page and my models. It is very encouraging for me. Let me say that in the 2 months I have been here, I have thoroughly enjoyed myself. For the first time in my WW1 modelling period, I have people who know and appreciate what I build. I have picked up many tips in the short time I've been here and more people asked about my rigging in one month than in the past 20 years. You may never use it, but at least you asked. That means a lot to me. For that I thank you. Enough of this seriousness. Its completely out of character for me. My favorite comment was from Ernest. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 00:15:36 -0800 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: February Internet Modeler Message-ID: <3111C828.11B94637@mars.ark.com> Navarre's 'Vengeur'(sp?) was a prototype MoS N specially modified for him with a different spinner and a different top fuselage decking. -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 00:37:29 -0800 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FMP sale Message-ID: <3111CD49.7ADC5D84@mars.ark.com> darn - the three books (French AF and 2 * AH) I am interested are not on sale yet... -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:09:37 -0200 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Jean Navarre Message-ID: <002401be4e8b$c31e0de0$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> >Diego Fernetti writes: > >>-snips-In fact, I always >>wanted to have a Jean Navarre's MS (don't know exactly what type) and M. > >Navarre's aircraft was a Type "L" parasol, I believe. > Oops, sorry. I realize that my recognition skills on french aircraft are poor. That's why I have so many unconfirmed kills ;-) D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:07:18 -0200 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: fund raising in SA Message-ID: <002f01be4e93$d1aeb780$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Thank you Bob, for your kind explanation. It made me recall that here in my city the english and irish inmigrants and their families (surprisingly there's many brits or their descendants down here) knitted hundreds of wool sweaters and socks for the Royal Navy during WW1 and 2. Bellows Foundation could be part of that kind of war effort. As you may know, Argentina's population were made largely of european inmigrants as the U.S.. At the same time that the brits were raising funds to support war effort, the germans made the same organising beer parties and all that stuff. So did the french. All collectivities kept always very good relationships with each other and I think that it would be a better world if all the kaisers and politicians lived far from home during the wars ;-) Thanks again for the explanation. You forgot to mention in the editorial of IM that internet is a fast method to get further info directly from the author in a fast way. Regards. Diego. -----Mensaje original----- De: Bob Pearson Para: Multiple recipients of list >Diego, > >As Presentation machines are sorta on-topic I'll answer here. As was the >practice in WW1, during WW2 groups and individuals could 'purchase' an >aircraft, tank or whatever they wanted for the war effort. Such machines >were deemed to have been "Presented" to the armed forces and carried the >name of the donor. The cost of nine Whirlwinds was raised by the Bellows >Foundation of South America. I'm not sure if this was confined to Argentina >or not.. > >Regards, > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 06:52:09 -0700 From: "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Jean Navarre Message-ID: <5DA4C4BE65D9D111A6FC0060081FD2189E71DE@SNEFFELS> Diego Fernetti writes: >-snips-In fact, I always >wanted to have a Jean Navarre's MS (don't know exactly what type) and M. Navarre's aircraft was a Type "L" parasol, I believe. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Cave ab homine unius librum." In fact, I believe that his markings are in the Eduard 1/48 M.S. L. If that's your scale. If not, I could try scanning the instructions and sending them to you. Let me know Hi ho! Michael Satin Michael.Satin@shepards.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:04:41 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Help on Bristol Scout Message-ID: <199902020904_MC2-68E7-9912@compuserve.com> All, I presently have under construction the Bristol Scout by AEROCLUB and LIBRAMODELS (yes, I'm building two at the same time) and need some help with the colors on one version I'm building. In PROFILE 139 page 11, a photo shows an excellent cockpit shot of one Scout stationed at Imbros. I want to build this one because of the very unusual Lewis gun set up. According to the profile, the RNAS had N5393 and N5398, among others, in service. The color is assumed to be PC10 but I cannot tell from the photo if the PC covered the metal to the cowling. It appears to go to the cowling. Any help will be greatly appreciated. (Hurry, you know how fast I build) Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:04:40 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: 1/167 survivors Message-ID: <199902020904_MC2-68E7-9911@compuserve.com> To all Out of (cereal) Box folks, Went through a box of misc stuff last night and found two 1/167 survivors. I still have a Albatros D.II and Sopwith Pup. So cancel my request for 1/167 Lozenge decals. :-). The lively discussion that followed mentioned Brad Hansen and his book. It came to me that Brad Hansen gave me the models about 12 years or so ago. Oh, dear, oh dear, how things fade with the passing of time. Also, I have made contact with Brad's wife at her shop here in town but have not had any contact as of date. I'll track him down and and find out what he is up to. Would sure like to see him back into modelling. He is an excellent builder. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:11:09 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: MoS Type I Message-ID: <19990202.081314.-990775.13.mbittner@juno.com> Dennis, > Your MoS Type I is beautiful. And your write up is very >detailed >and informative. Excellent work. Thank you! Any more photo's of your work? Matt ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:45:12 -0200 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "WW1 mailing list" Subject: Ugulano's planes Message-ID: <000701be4eba$a46ddea0$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Dear Dennis: I took a ride over your page and I was delighted. Beautiful! I never knew the Siemens triplane before. It looked like a very dangerous war machine, specially for the pilot... Congratulations. I'm waiting to see more. D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:18:37 -0500 From: Bill Neill To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: Blue Max DH2 interior Message-ID: <199902021319_MC2-68F4-81EE@compuserve.com> Well, the kit seat was one of the reasons for redoing the interior. I got a Tom's modelworks brass set, but the seat still doesn't look convincing. so, either I try to find a better brass one, or I weave one from wire, but first try will be to tweak the Tom's one, using a method I used for 'wood' effect on the Triplane struts..... Paint overall light beige color, draw in details with colored pencils, then Tamiya clear yellow or orange varnish. I wonder if I can do this while the seat is still in the flat, then bend it up. Can but try I suppose. Other stuff on the interior... The top decking looked way too thick for a ply shell, so that has got thinned near the cockpit opening. Now the rear bulkhead does not fit, so that gets redone, from wood veneer. I do not know what to make of the two blobs for the control panels so I will make something up. Anyone got photos or diagrams of the 1:1? The top longerons will get scraped down, and redone. This is partly to give the inner struts something to locate on. The floor or whatever the 'D' shape under the gun pillar is does not seem to fit too well, and I cannot so far figure whether it is supposed to go all the way down at floor level, or higher up. I'm guessing that it is a structural support rather than a floor, and it maybe lines up with the horizontal seam around the nose of the nacelle. Actually, back to the seat, it now occurs to me that I could find a piece of fabric of about the right texture, stick it to the inside of the Toms seat for shape (the outside of the seat is pretty much invisible anyhow) and paint it up. Maybe even find it near the right color... Bill Neill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:21:20 +0100 (CET) From: knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Visit to UK - Science Museum Message-ID: <199902021921.UAA07666@login-2.eunet.no> Richard and others: The Science Museum is in Central London, you enter from Exhibition Road, there is a whole series of museums in the area, just south of Hyde Park. You can walk from Paddington or Victoria railway stations or take a bus or tube to get there. Driving yourself in London is not recommended.... In London they have painted "look left/right" at pedestrian crossings, in Folkstone it will possibly be Port/Stbd. Eders Knut Erik >Wonderfull ... >Do you know the exact address, and the approximal distance betwen it and >London or Folkestone ? >Maybe a raid with a few friends during springs ? >Regards, >Richard Caudron > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of >> Knut Erik Hagen >> Sent: zaterdag 30 januari 1999 1:05 >> To: Multiple recipients of list >> Subject: Visit to UK - Science Museum >> >> >> Richard asked: >> >Do that museum have any Web site ? or do you have an idea of their >> >collections ? >> In South Kensington, based on my recollections and Bob Ogdens book: >> Avro 504K, Cody biplane, Fokker E.III, SE5A, Roe I triplane, Vickers Vimy >> Wright Flyer (replica), Lillenthal (replica?), Levasseur Antoinette >> and a lot of engines, instruments and guns. >> It is dark and dusty there, so photgraphy is a challenge. >> >> There is a lot of weird and wonderful off-topic stuff as well: >> Hill Pterodactyl, Supermarine S.6B, Gloster E.28/39, Cierva C.30 >> and Hawker Hurricane to mention some of my favourites. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:47:38 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: RE: MoS Type I Message-ID: <000001be4ee4$e378b000$1a2b5c8b@PCCE.cim-hardi.be> Matthew, What a wonderfull kit. I went on the site, and discover it. Thanks for all the tips. I never saw before a Temek kit in Western Europe. Is that a new label ? Regards, Richard Caudron > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Matthew E Bittner > Sent: maandag 1 februari 1999 11:53 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: MoS Type I > > > For those who care, the "full size digital" images of the Temeks MoS Type > I are on my site at: > > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook/ww1_fr.html > > > Matt Bittner > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 12:58:13 -0700 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Wicker seats? Was: DH-2 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990202125813.006dca4c@mail> How about sculpting wicker seats from Milliput or A+B? I haven't tried it yet, but have been toying with it. I have done quite a bit of figure sculpting with these materials in the past, so am quite familiar with their capabilities. "Weaving" a wicker seat from wire or whatever is a neat idea, and the efforts I have seen look fine, but there are two problems. One is that it is a lot of work. The other is that, well, it looks okay, but not ideal. The problem of course is scale. Even in 1/28 or 1/24 it's hard to get a scale effect with wire. At least the pictures I have seen of real wicker seats show a weave too fine to simulate by actually weaving. In addition, it appears that some of them had patterns that would be even more difficult to duplicate with wire. But by sculpting a seat from putty, I think one would achieve a better scale appearance, and you could duplicate patterns fairly simply. I have been intending to trying this, starting out with some sheet plastic to hold the epoxy putty. Once you've smeared some on and smoothed it out, it's a simple matter of texturing the putty with an awl or the like. Even better, after you've made a really good one, you can use RTV rubber and resin to cast copies. Well, it's just a suggestion. One day I hope to try it for myself. Dane ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1425 **********************