WWI Digest 1422 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Blue Max DH2 by Bill Neill 2) Re: Blue Max DH2 by "Steven M. Perry" 3) CSM W.12 by Martin Ryan 4) RE: Model Comapanies by Shane Weier 5) Re: Model Comapanies by Matthew E Bittner 6) Fw: world war 1 model plane by Matthew E Bittner 7) Re: Model Comapanies by KarrArt@aol.com 8) Re: Model Comapanies by Ernest Thomas 9) Re: Model Comapanies by KarrArt@aol.com 10) Re: Model Comapanies by Ernest Thomas 11) Re: Blue Max DH2 by "David Vosburgh" 12) New web update by Matthew E Bittner 13) Re: New web update by John & Allison Cyganowski 14) WW I Survivors wasRe: Aussie D.H.9a / Aircraft Locations? by KarrArt@aol.com 15) Re: Model Comapanies by KarrArt@aol.com 16) Re: Model Comapanies by "David Vosburgh" 17) Re: Model Comapanies by KarrArt@aol.com 18) Re: New web update by KarrArt@aol.com 19) Re: Blue Max DH2 by Bill Neill 20) Re: Avro Triplane by Bill Neill 21) Re: Blue Max DH2 by Matthew E Bittner 22) Strutz by "David Vosburgh" 23) RE: WW I Survivors wasRe: Aussie D.H.9a / Aircraft Locations? by "John C Glaser" 24) Re: WW I Survivors wasRe: Aussie D.H.9a / Aircraft Locations? by KarrArt@aol.com 25) Re: New web update by Ernest Thomas 26) RE: Model Comapanies by Shane Weier 27) RE: Model Comapanies by Bob Pearson 28) RE: Model Comapanies by Shane Weier 29) Re: Model Comapanies by KarrArt@aol.com 30) Re: New web update by Pedro e Francisca Soares 31) RE: Model Comapanies by "Steven M. Perry" 32) Re: Blue Max DH2 by "David R.L. Laws" 33) RK = Richard Kraut . . or does it by Bob Pearson ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:07:07 -0500 From: Bill Neill To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Blue Max DH2 Message-ID: <199901301407_MC2-6897-3D6@compuserve.com> I got started on the Blue Max DH2, no particular problems yet, but I can see that the tail booms and I will have some disageements. There are three problems I can see...... The booms to wings joint. I guess the way to go here is to assemble the booms and wings more or less complete, then drill suitably angled holes in the wings to get the booms into? The 1:1 version seems to have had the booms attached to the junction of the inner struts and wing spars. The booms to interboom struts joints. The 1:1 seems to have had wrap around metal fittings on the booms, to tubular ends on the struts. (Or maybe the struts were metal tubes with wooden fairings?). Anyhow, I can't see me getting a sound joint between the thin strut ends and the steel tube booms, even with superglue, and still having a reasonable scale size. The other related issue on the booms is how am I going to attach the bracing wires to these boom/strut junctions, without ending up with horrible glue globs. Anyone got experiences with Blue Maxes DH2 they could share with me? Thanks Bill Neill. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:19:57 -0500 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Blue Max DH2 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990130141957.00a33570@pop.mindspring.com> At 02:08 PM 1/30/99 -0500, you wrote: >I got started on the Blue Max DH2, no particular problems yet, but I can >see that the tail booms and I will have some disageements. >There are three problems I can see...... > >The booms to wings joint. I guess the way to go here is to assemble the >booms and wings more or less complete, then drill suitably angled holes in >the wings to get the booms into? The 1:1 version seems to have had the >booms attached to the junction of the inner struts and wing spars. > >The booms to interboom struts joints. The 1:1 seems to have had wrap around >metal fittings on the booms, to tubular ends on the struts. (Or maybe the >struts were metal tubes with wooden fairings?). Anyhow, I can't see me >getting a sound joint between the thin strut ends and the steel tube booms, >even with superglue, and still having a reasonable scale size. > >The other related issue on the booms is how am I going to attach the >bracing wires to these boom/strut junctions, without ending up with >horrible glue globs. > >Anyone got experiences with Blue Maxes DH2 they could share with me? > >Thanks >Bill Neill. > Bill: I built the Smer DH-2 and scratched the booms completely, I used music wire for the longeron tubes and carved the all wood struts from basswood strips. You are right about the weakness of the tube to pointy strut end joint. I made the wrap around metal fitting out of very thin copper foil. This strengthened the joint. Be sure to rig the boom bracing cables as soon as possible as this adds strengh. As for he attach points to the wing, just cut a groove thru the wing at the correct angle and CA in the end of the boom tubes. The original had the joint covered with a sheet metal plate. 5 thou card duplicates this perfectly and covers the joint perfectly. If you haven't seen it, I have a write up on building that model at: http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/1stpg.htm and photos at: http://smperry.home.mindspring.com/gallery.htm The DH-2 is a facinating aircraft, enjoy your build :-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:06:41 -0700 From: Martin Ryan To: WWI List Subject: CSM W.12 Message-ID: <36B36650.FDBCC156@ix.netcom.com> Shane I haven't checked the W.12 out that closely (a peek at the test shots), but I do know that it will have both radiator types and several different exhaust stacks. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 08:08:30 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Model Comapanies Message-ID: Cyg, > I have been digesting the "sissy boys" thread over the last few days. > Maybe I am missing the point. You are, sort of. The issue was spoon fed whiners who demanded "Tamiya quality" and nothing else was good enough to cross their bench. For example, there has been an acrimonious exchange on rec.models.scale started by one of these types who insists that the new (off topic) Junkers from Revell-Monogram will be a "piece of crap" because it isn't made by Tamiya. > Who will not buy a new 1/48 scale Fairey Swordfish simply > because it is made by Tamiya? Me, but the subject is way out of my area of interest. However, I might admit that I've bought several new Tamiya and Accurate Miniatures kits in the last five years so one never knows (I've also sold or swapped all but one of them - lovely moulding, tedious subjects) > Okay, but Bittner is a rule unto himself. ;-) Seconded :-þ Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:26:01 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Comapanies Message-ID: <19990130.162606.-736979.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:10:23 -0500 (EST) Shane Weier writes: >> Okay, but Bittner is a rule unto himself. ;-) > >Seconded :-þ I want to take this time to say "Thank You" to all those who insist on - well - complimenting me. :-) Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:23:22 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Fw: world war 1 model plane Message-ID: <19990130.162606.-736979.0.mbittner@juno.com> Please respond to the individual direct. --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ustasha@webtv.net (Allen Harris) To: mbittner@juno.com Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:08:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: world war 1 model plane Message-ID: <21023-36B374DA-234@mailtod-222.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Return-path: Received: from mx4.boston.juno.com (mx4.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.53]) by x2.boston.juno.com (8.8.6.Beta0/8.8.6.Beta0/2.0.kim) with ESMTP id QAAAA06599 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:08:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailsorter-105.bryant.webtv.net (mailsorter-105.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.95]) by mx4.boston.juno.com (8.8.6.Beta0/8.8.6.Beta0/2.0.kim) with ESMTP id QAAAA07101 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailtod-222.iap.bryant.webtv.net (mailtod-222.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.199.86]) by mailsorter-105.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.gso.08Dec97) with ESMTP id NAA28889; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:08:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by mailtod-222.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/mt.gso.26Feb98) id NAA02378; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:08:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Disposition: Inline Hi, I am getting back into modeling after a long absence, and I need a little help, I am building a 1/48 PFALZ DIII that I would like to finish in a lozenge pattern camouflage, at least on the wings, do you have any reference on a lozenge Pfalz? thanks for any help. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:26:35 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Comapanies Message-ID: In a message dated 1/30/99 2:11:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << > I have been digesting the "sissy boys" thread over the last few days. > Maybe I am missing the point. You are, sort of. The issue was spoon fed whiners who demanded "Tamiya quality" and nothing else was good enough to cross their bench. For example, there has been an acrimonious exchange on rec.models.scale started by one of these types who insists that the new (off topic) Junkers from Revell-Monogram will be a "piece of crap" because it isn't made by Tamiya. > Who will not buy a new 1/48 scale Fairey Swordfish simply > because it is made by Tamiya? Me, but the subject is way out of my area of interest. However, I might admit that I've bought several new Tamiya and Accurate Miniatures kits in the last five years so one never knows (I've also sold or swapped all but one of them - lovely moulding, tedious subjects) > Okay, but Bittner is a rule unto himself. ;-) Seconded :-þ Shane >> Yeah, I don't care who makes a kit, if it's a good kit- could be Tamiya, could be Monogram. If a 400 lb ex-lady-wrestler is making kits in her barn, I'll buy one if it's something I'm interested in, and the kit is a good one at a good price. The guy on r.m.s. may not realize it, but he's actually short changing himself. Robert K.(who just counted and to his horror discovered that there are 42 rigging lines in a Spider wing) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:09:55 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Comapanies Message-ID: <36B39143.3936@bellsouth.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > Robert K.(who just counted and to his horror discovered that there are 42 > rigging lines in a Spider wing) That makes 84 ends to stick somewhere. Just to add to your horror. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:19:08 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Comapanies Message-ID: <9322e736.36b3936c@aol.com> In a message dated 1/30/99 3:12:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > Robert K.(who just counted and to his horror discovered that there are 42 > rigging lines in a Spider wing) That makes 84 ends to stick somewhere. Just to add to your horror. E. >> That's just the wing! The whole structure is a few sticks held together with wires under tension, wires under compression and probably wires under depression and disgust. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:53:59 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Comapanies Message-ID: <36B39B97.5A01@bellsouth.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > The whole structure is a few sticks held together with > wires under tension, wires under compression and probably wires under > depression and disgust. rotfl... e. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:28:43 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Blue Max DH2 Message-ID: <003801be4cb9$0b7302a0$16d690d0@Pvosburg> Bill: Have you given any thought to soldering the tail assembly out of brass? A lot of people give me weird looks when I tell them I make struts & cockpit framing, etc., out of brass rod/wire, which really surprises me. I taught myself to do it from Paul Budzik's article in FSM about ten years ago and have never regretted the time it took... which consisted of about two hours. It's cheap, relatively easy, and about 20 times stronger than plastic. The only problem is filing the struts from blank rod, but I see in the catalogs that somebody's making brass strut stock, if you can afford the stuff. Just another idea to consider. D.V. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Neill To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 3:49 PM Subject: Re: Blue Max DH2 >I got started on the Blue Max DH2, no particular problems yet, but I can >see that the tail booms and I will have some disageements. >There are three problems I can see...... > >The booms to wings joint. I guess the way to go here is to assemble the >booms and wings more or less complete, then drill suitably angled holes in >the wings to get the booms into? The 1:1 version seems to have had the >booms attached to the junction of the inner struts and wing spars. > >The booms to interboom struts joints. The 1:1 seems to have had wrap around >metal fittings on the booms, to tubular ends on the struts. (Or maybe the >struts were metal tubes with wooden fairings?). Anyhow, I can't see me >getting a sound joint between the thin strut ends and the steel tube booms, >even with superglue, and still having a reasonable scale size. > >The other related issue on the booms is how am I going to attach the >bracing wires to these boom/strut junctions, without ending up with >horrible glue globs. > >Anyone got experiences with Blue Maxes DH2 they could share with me? > >Thanks >Bill Neill. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:02:33 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: New web update Message-ID: <19990130.200234.-720951.0.mbittner@juno.com> Just put a new model on my club's web site. It's Erik Pilawskii's excellent Czech Master SSW D.III. You must see his wood fuselage. Realistic! Check out: http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook/ww1_ge.html Also, be sure to check out: http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook/models.html and click around all the images. You'll see just how awesome a digital camera is for model photography. Yes, if you haven't noticed, thanks to the club picking up the fee for GeoPlus, we have a new URL: http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook plus it also means no more annoying ads. Woo hoo!! Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:51:26 -0500 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New web update Message-ID: <36B3B71E.37B2@worldnet.att.net> These ships are all very nice. Thanks for sharing these. John Cyg. nb. Trying to make Halberstadt molds. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:53:16 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: WW I Survivors wasRe: Aussie D.H.9a / Aircraft Locations? Message-ID: In a message dated 1/30/99 7:13:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, bigglesrfc@globalserve.net writes: << John Ray Rimell is way ahead of you. Try to find a copy of 'World War One Survivors' published in 1990 by Aston Publications Ltd. and distributed by Motorbooks International. ISBN 0 946627 44 4. The book tells you everything you want to know about all known surviving WWI aircraft, including, serials, individual history (as far as known), and whereabouts. The book is still kicking around as far as I know. I'm pretty sure I saw a copy fairly recently in a bookstore here in Toronto. Brad BigglesRFC@globalserve.net >> It's a pretty neat book and a handy "quick, I gotta know this RIGHT NOW!" resource. I got my copy in '94 ( or was it '95?).Not too many goofs. Now, if Ray would just do an update. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:53:19 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Comapanies Message-ID: In a message dated 1/30/99 4:23:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, Janah@worldnet.att.net writes: << I just wish we could get Tamiya, Hasegawa, or Revell-Monogram interested in 3 wings. Who will not buy a new 1/48 scale Fairey Swordfish simply because it is made by Tamiya? Okay, but Bittner is a rule unto himself. ;-) Cyg. >> It would be nice to see these companies go big time into WW I- especially Revell-Monogram because of the price. I don't think it will happen, but stranger things have happened! If I develope an interest in the Swordfish, I certainly wouldn't let the brand name deter me. Now, if instead of a Swordfish, Tamiya was doing a Hawker Hart, I'd strip off all my clothes and run around the backyard yodeling with delight! Robert K. nta(now thinking about) the Bittner Rule. Perhaps some new measuring device. Is there an infomercial I could catch about it late at night? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 22:25:15 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Model Comapanies Message-ID: <002a01be4cc9$52c91580$16d690d0@Pvosburg> -----Original Message----- From: KarrArt@aol.com Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Model Comapanies <> >nta(now thinking about) the Bittner Rule. Perhaps some new measuring device. >Is there an infomercial I could catch about it late at night? > Robert: All it is is a plain metal 12" ruler, marked down to 64ths --- but it's in 1:72, and you need a scanning electron micrograph to read it. I think Ronco makes 'em for only $19.95 (with a free bonus micrograph!)... DV ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 22:31:10 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Comapanies Message-ID: In a message dated 1/30/99 7:26:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, dave@vga- graphics.com writes: << Robert: All it is is a plain metal 12" ruler, marked down to 64ths --- but it's in 1:72, and you need a scanning electron micrograph to read it. I think Ronco makes 'em for only $19.95 (with a free bonus micrograph!)... DV >> If I order now, does it come with the free instructional video AND the 1/72 french fry adaptor? ( an extra $7.47 value!) Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 22:37:05 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New web update Message-ID: <2f353528.36b3cfe1@aol.com> In a message dated 1/30/99 6:01:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, mbittner@juno.com writes: << Just put a new model on my club's web site. It's Erik Pilawskii's excellent Czech Master SSW D.III. You must see his wood fuselage. Realistic! Check out: http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook/ww1_ge.html >> Nice piece of work and I especially liked the pose of the 3/4 semi bottom view- neat shot- give it a blue background and a spinning prop and it would look like the thing was flying. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:35:48 -0500 From: Bill Neill To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Blue Max DH2 Message-ID: <199901302336_MC2-68A5-EC50@compuserve.com> Yes, Unless somebody came up with a better idea, I was thinking of going for soldered brass. This will mean remaking the Blue Max jig, since I don't think it will like it! I have heard of a brass strut material called 'Strutz' but I never found anywhere to get it. I got problems with Contrail plastic strutting, my looking at 1:1 airplanes and photos convinces me that early airplanes at least did not have streamlined struts, but rather oval or rounded off rectangular. What I have done is to get some brass wire and scale lumber from my local model train shop, and go from there. Bill Neill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:43:13 -0500 From: Bill Neill To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Avro Triplane Message-ID: <199901302343_MC2-68A5-EC78@compuserve.com> Hi Sandy, The scans of the instructions didn't make it, if you could kindly try again? Thank Bill Neill (billneill@compuserve.com) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 22:49:07 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Blue Max DH2 Message-ID: <19990130.224908.-811071.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:36:55 -0500 (EST) Bill Neill writes: >I have heard of a brass strut material called 'Strutz' but I never found >anywhere to get it. Sopwith Hobbies. Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:57:31 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: Strutz Message-ID: <002401be4cd6$361af040$16d690d0@Pvosburg> Bill: I sent this to Lee earlier this evening. Sorry, I should've posted it to you as well: "They're listed in the last Sopwith Hobbies catalog I have, which is marked "CATALOG UPDATE O2/18/98". They were on pg.36, listed as "STRUTZ - Metal struts. The best there i (sic) - STRUTZ (stock #) - $9.75" Beyond that I know nothing about them. It doesn't mention widths, lengths, applicable scales, etc." Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:20:46 -0600 From: "John C Glaser" To: Subject: RE: WW I Survivors wasRe: Aussie D.H.9a / Aircraft Locations? Message-ID: <000401be4cd9$74be37f0$f011820a@johng-home> Thanks. I already have a bead on one from Aeroplane Books. One question though: Does it include the accurate 1:1 scale repro's? For example, USAFM is a mixture of both. - John -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu] On Behalf Of KarrArt@aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 30, 1999 8:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: WW I Survivors wasRe: Aussie D.H.9a / Aircraft Locations? In a message dated 1/30/99 7:13:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, bigglesrfc@globalserve.net writes: << John Ray Rimell is way ahead of you. Try to find a copy of 'World War One Survivors' published in 1990 by Aston Publications Ltd. and distributed by Motorbooks International. ISBN 0 946627 44 4. The book tells you everything you want to know about all known surviving WWI aircraft, including, serials, individual history (as far as known), and whereabouts. The book is still kicking around as far as I know. I'm pretty sure I saw a copy fairly recently in a bookstore here in Toronto. Brad BigglesRFC@globalserve.net >> It's a pretty neat book and a handy "quick, I gotta know this RIGHT NOW!" resource. I got my copy in '94 ( or was it '95?).Not too many goofs. Now, if Ray would just do an update. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 00:37:04 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WW I Survivors wasRe: Aussie D.H.9a / Aircraft Locations? Message-ID: <6d19bb8c.36b3ec00@aol.com> In a message dated 1/30/99 9:22:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, JohnGlaser@worldnet.att.net writes: << Thanks. I already have a bead on one from Aeroplane Books. One question though: Does it include the accurate 1:1 scale repro's? For example, USAFM is a mixture of both. - John >> No, although there is some confusion in this area. Some airplanes listed as restored are probably more accurately defined as repros considering the amount(or lack thereof) of original molecules contained! There is an attempt in some cases to relate a little info about heavy modifications or restoration. The book's goal is to round up the real ones and doesn't include things such as, oh, say, the Champlin Spad XIII or San Diego DR-I. One of the best features is in the rear of the book- a listing by country of where the survivors are living these days- or were living in 1990- hence the need and desire for an update. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 00:10:45 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New web update Message-ID: <36B3F3E5.4DA1@bellsouth.net> Matthew E Bittner wrote: > > Just put a new model on my club's web site. It's Erik Pilawskii's > excellent Czech Master SSW D.III. You must see his wood fuselage. > Realistic! > Nice stuff. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:26:29 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Model Comapanies Message-ID: RK, > Now, if instead of a Swordfish, Tamiya was > doing a Hawker Hart, I'd strip off all my clothes > and run around the backyard yodeling with > delight! That's two of us.....time to *dance* !! S ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 22:21:07 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: RE: Model Comapanies Message-ID: <199901310621.WAA14133@spare.rapidnet.net> > RK, > > > Now, if instead of a Swordfish, Tamiya was > > doing a Hawker Hart, I'd strip off all my clothes > > and run around the backyard yodeling with > > delight! > > That's two of us.....time to *dance* !! > > S Now there is an image I'm trying awfully hard not to think about. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:37:14 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Model Comapanies Message-ID: Bob > > That's two of us.....time to *dance* !! > > > Now there is an image I'm trying awfully hard not to think about. > If you'd ever *seen* me, you'd now be a gibbering wreck at just that thought.. S ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 02:01:13 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Comapanies Message-ID: <482524a4.36b3ffb9@aol.com> In a message dated 1/30/99 10:33:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, bpearson@kaien.com writes: << RK, > > > Now, if instead of a Swordfish, Tamiya was > > doing a Hawker Hart, I'd strip off all my clothes > > and run around the backyard yodeling with > > delight! > > That's two of us.....time to *dance* !! > > S Now there is an image I'm trying awfully hard not to think about. Bob >> Now I'm scared- although there may be a hell of a painting in this! RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:25:53 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New web update Message-ID: <36B42FB0.16105D5F@mail.telepac.pt> Matthew E Bittner wrote: > Just put a new model on my club's web site. It's Erik Pilawskii's > excellent Czech Master SSW D.III. You must see his wood fuselage. > Realistic! > > Check out: > > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook/ww1_ge.html > > Nice going again Erik. Your wood work is really something. Um abraco Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 07:41:32 -0500 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Model Comapanies Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990131074132.00b5a72c@pop.mindspring.com> At 01:25 AM 1/31/99 -0500, you wrote: >RK, > >> Now, if instead of a Swordfish, Tamiya was >> doing a Hawker Hart, I'd strip off all my clothes >> and run around the backyard yodeling with >> delight! > >That's two of us.....time to *dance* !! > >S Perhaps Tamayagawa et al will come up with half a dozen obscure variants of 1 oh thingies to release first and spare us this frightening scene for a while :-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 22:45:07 +1000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Blue Max DH2 Message-ID: <36B1AE2F.5567@webtime.com.au> As a gloss to Dave V's discursis on the use of soldered brass rod and wire There's nothing to stop you using fine wire for the up-rights and then covering these in Bamboo or you favourite real wood - I use bamboo ' cause it's easily split - You groove the centre to take the wire and then plane or carve out a long aerofoil section, cut to length and glue together over the wire. This allows a very neat finish to be achieved and leaves you with the best of both worlds, structural strength and real wooden struts david ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 08:07:59 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: RK = Richard Kraut . . or does it Message-ID: <199901311607.IAA15715@spare.rapidnet.net> Greetings all, While going through THE JASTA PILOTS on an unrelated matter I came across a photo of a pilot boarding his D.VII (from the left). . the D.VII is the RK marked one we were discussing earlier this month . . the pilot is listed as Ltn Rudolf Klimke of Jasta 27. And on the subject of boarding a/c ... I saw an episode of Black Sheep Sqn yesterday and every single time they got in or out of their Corsairs it was through the right side .. even when they approached from the left. Regards, Bob ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1422 **********************