WWI Digest 1416 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Stripping Paint by "Chris Banyai-Riepl" 2) Re: Finding a pilot by "PAUL GABERT" 3) RE: Finding a pilot by Shane Weier 4) Re: Finding a pilot by Mick Fauchon 5) Re: Stripping Paint by Ernest Thomas 6) RE: Holiday? and Fosters Canadian Beer by Mick Fauchon 7) Re: Building a historical sequence.. by Bill Neill 8) Completely off topice (was Re: Profile etiquette) by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 9) RE: Stripping Paint by Mike Dicianna 10) Re: Finding a pilot by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 11) RE: Remove paint with Oven Cleaner by "Richard Caudron" 12) Re: Fosters Canadian Beer by Martin Ryan 13) RE: CSM Models by "Robert Woodbury" 14) French aeroplanes photos by Yves Buffetaut 15) RAF Website by "Chris Banyai-Riepl" 16) Re: Completely off topice (was Re: Profile etiquette) by "Sandy Adam" 17) Re: Jeanlain bottle painting on Albatros by "Sandy Adam" 18) Kookaburra Snipe book by "Sandy Adam" 19) Re: SPIN Ansaldo by "Sandy Adam" 20) Re: Jeanlain bottle painting on Albatros by Ernest Thomas 21) Ebay In Trouble by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 22) Re: Fosters Canadian Beer by Allan Wright 23) Re: SPIN Ansaldo by fedders 24) Re: SPIN Ansaldo by "Sandy Adam" 25) Visit to UK by "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" 26) Re: Visit to UK by "Sandy Adam" 27) RE: Stripping Paint by Rick Milas 28) Re: SPIN Ansaldo by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> 29) HELP! Problem with Eduard Sopwith Pup! by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> 30) rms sissy boys wasRe: SPIN Ansaldo by KarrArt@aol.com 31) Hanover CL II Kit by "Ultan C J O Broin" 32) Re: HELP! Problem with Eduard Sopwith Pup! by Rick Milas 33) Re: rms sissy boys wasRe: SPIN Ansaldo by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 19:36:07 -0800 From: "Chris Banyai-Riepl" To: Subject: RE: Stripping Paint Message-ID: <000e01be49a6$2ca9b1f0$9f4ffbce@chris> > Over a year ago we exchanged some messages about the best way to remove > enamel paint from model pieces. I seem to remember that oven cleaner was > recommended (by Matt?). Will any over cleaner do? Or is there a prefered > brand? > The best thing out there for stripping kits is a product called Strip-a-Kit. A modeler in Montana puts it out, and it is hands down THE best stripper out there. It's in a gel state, so you have much more control over where it goes. This means that if you have a beautifully painted fuselage but screwed up on the wings, you could strip off just the wings and redo those, leaving your nicely done fuselage. It also doesn't harm glue joints or putty. This stuff is so much easier and safer to use than oven cleaner or brake fluid. Give it a try and you won't go back. Unless you live outside the US. He can't send it outside of the US because of postal regulations, but he's working on it. The website that it can be found at is: http://www.montana.com/people/home2/arl3845/www/hangar1.html In no way, shape, or form am I affiliated with Strip-a-Kit, I'm just another one of those happy users of a great product. Chris Banyai-Riepl Publisher/Editor Internet Modeler http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:42:38 -0500 From: "PAUL GABERT" To: Subject: Re: Finding a pilot Message-ID: <199901270400.XAA15838@cplus.cpis.net> > << It might have been a joke, Teufel is German for Devil, would have been > unfair punishment to pass that name on to your children unless you want > them to grow up to be realy bad. >> There's an interview with a WW1 german recce pilot named Otto Roosen in Vol 13 # 7 issue of Military History magazine. The article is titled "Survival Over The Western Front" and Roosen talks about his war experiences including flying his friend's (Ernst Udet) Dr1. When asked about cockpit details he said something like it had been long ago. Ted Sacher did the interview and Roosen was still alive I believe as of the issue of the magazine in March 97. I unfortunately didn't buy that issue but found the info under thehistorynet.com. Since the Dr1 cockpit is the Holy Grail wouldn't it be neat if the old gentleman (if not deceased) would allow himself to be hypnotized and allowed to relive that experience and possibly glean some missing details? Is this sick or just plain desperate? Paul G. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:58:17 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Finding a pilot Message-ID: Paul, > Is this sick or just plain desperate? > Hopeless. He died some time back - there's an issue of OtF in which there are three different interviews with him, a little while back. Help me folks, my OtF aren't indexed !! Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:32:55 +1100 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Finding a pilot Message-ID: Bob, > Not listed in "THE JASTA PILOTS" .... As I now know that you have the above tome, can you help me on this one? Do you have details on a Lt. von Bertrass, sometimes incorrectly spelt "Bertrab" [the result of confusing the German final double-s with a capital B]? TIA, Mick. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:26:18 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Stripping Paint Message-ID: <36AE956A.44C0@bellsouth.net> Chris Banyai-Riepl wrote: > The best thing out there for stripping kits is a product called Strip-a-Kit. Maybe I just got a bad bottle, but you'd have to give it to me to get me to try it again. I found strip-a-kit to be slow working, sometimes needed repeated aplications and often times, scrubbing with a toothbrush(though my teeth were never whiter ba-dum pssshhh!!!). But you are right about the ease of application with s-a-k. And oven cleaner WILL attack putty(Sq.White)if you leave it on too long. But for all it's causticity, it does the job and does the job quick. Sometimes, I just spray, wait a few minutes, and rinse. Just me .02 sheckels worth E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:35:53 +1100 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Holiday? and Fosters Canadian Beer Message-ID: Rob, > Sorry to sound unpatriotic (it was only Australia Day yesterday) but give me > a good German brew any day! Some of those Schwartzwald brews are magic! But, > failing that- I'll have a Redback mate! Since you appear to be shouting [i.e. buying], I'll have an Astra, please. 80) Cheers, Mick. -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:58:16 -0500 From: Bill Neill To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Building a historical sequence.. Message-ID: <199901262358_MC2-681F-D3E4@compuserve.com> Many thanks to all those who have helped me. This is in fact part of a longer sequence intended to cover British military aviation in general, and about a third built (or botched), from mid WW2 to the end of military aviation from British industry (The EE Lightning). My WW1 sequence is getting clearer, but I come to a curious issue, where to start? I thought of Cody's biplane, which I am told was #1 British Army Aeroplane, but I could find no drawings of it. But thinking further, military aviation in Britain existed pre heavier than air craft. Since one of my more or less arbitrary rules is to go for 'combat' aircraft, does any one know of examples of baloons in active combat? Observation, yes, bombing I could maybe stretch the point for, but baloon vs baloon? Bill Neill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:59:53 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Completely off topice (was Re: Profile etiquette) Message-ID: <199901270459.UAA29312@compass.OregonVOS.net> Sandy writes: > >> The more interesting question might be, why does one "mount" an >> aircraft from the same side one mounts a horse? Certainly not >> all, or even a majority, of the early pilots were ex-cavalry >> troopers? >Presumably because the majority of the population are right-handed and >right-legged? You put the less-favoured leg into the stirrup/foothole and >then use the favoured leg to perform the more intricate operation of >avoiding saddle and wiggling foot into other stirrup (or whatever the >aeronautical equivalent is!)? Hmmm. I'd always understood that one "boards" a horse from the left because one wears one's sabre on the left. If you tried to mount from the right and swing the left leg over the horse, that damn sabre is gonna slide out of its scabbard everytime. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:00:16 +0000 From: Mike Dicianna To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Stripping Paint Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990126210016.006fcacc@dnc.net> At 10:37 PM 1/26/99 -0500, you wrote: >> >The best thing out there for stripping kits is a product called Strip-a-Kit. >A modeler in Montana puts it out, and it is hands down THE best stripper out >there. > >The website that it can be found at is: >http://www.montana.com/people/home2/arl3845/www/hangar1.html > >In no way, shape, or form am I affiliated with Strip-a-Kit, I'm just another >one of those happy users of a great product. > >Chris Banyai-Riepl > <<> This modeller's name is Rick Fluke, and one helluva nice guy. Struck up a friendship with him off of an Ebay sale. He is a WWI modeller as well! He sent me a bottle of strip-a-kit a while back. Took the acrylic screwups off of an off-topic Star Trek kit like a charm.... If you contact him, tell him HI from me....FWIW > > Mikedc "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:26:43 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Finding a pilot Message-ID: <199901270526.VAA13874@compass.OregonVOS.net> Mick writes: > Bob, > >> Not listed in "THE JASTA PILOTS" .... > > As I now know that you have the above tome, can you help me on >this one? > Do you have details on a Lt. von Bertrass, sometimes incorrectly >spelt "Bertrab" [the result of confusing the German final double-s with >a capital B]? Joachim v. Bertrab as he's listed in Above the Lines. An official "ace" with 4 confirmed "victories" April 6, '17 and a fifth on May 15, '17 - all with Jasta 30. Shot down and taken prisoner while attacking a balloon on August 12, '17 - credited to "Mick" Mannock as Mannock's 6th "victory". There's a bit more, including a description of his Albatros D.V if ya' want more. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 07:43:43 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: RE: Remove paint with Oven Cleaner Message-ID: <000201be49c0$61a67540$f72b5c8b@PCCE.cim-hardi.be> The Oven cleaner give very good result by leaving the plastic intact. Regards, Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Kevin & Kimberley > Sent: woensdag 27 januari 1999 3:34 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Stripping Paint > > > Hi List, > > Over a year ago we exchanged some messages about the best way to remove > enamel paint from model pieces. I seem to remember that oven cleaner was > recommended (by Matt?). Will any over cleaner do? Or is there a prefered > brand? > > Thanks, > Kevin. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:59:18 -0700 From: Martin Ryan To: WWI List Subject: Re: Fosters Canadian Beer Message-ID: <36AEB946.1AB793A1@ix.netcom.com> Since we have a beer line going, I'll put my 2cents in. A beer I developed a taste for was Hecht Schlenferla Rauchbier (if I spelled it correctly) from Bamberg. The grains were scorched to give it a smoked favor. The story goes that 1678 a fire in a monestory destroyed the grainery, but the thrifty monks tried to save the grain and thus the beer was born. You can get the idea of the taste when you are barbecuing by taking a deep breath of the smoke and the gulping down some brew. Martin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:57:01 +0800 From: "Robert Woodbury" To: Subject: RE: CSM Models Message-ID: <001d01be49ca$9eda9860$91107482@robertw-pc-fl.per.clw.csiro.au> > Copper State Models will be releasing > in 1/48 the HB W.12 > Has anyone seen how much this kit goes for!? I'd almost need a second home loan! How many kits does he produce in a run? Rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:00:23 +0200 From: Yves Buffetaut To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: French aeroplanes photos Message-ID: <36AEB987.52B5@club-internet.fr> Dear List members, I must go to the French Air Force Archives in February and have a look at the photographic section. So, if some of you need information about any plane, please let me know. They've got photographs of all French WW1 planes or foreign aircrafts which were flown by the French Air Force. If someone is interested by prints, I can order some. I will check out today to know the exact price of each picture. Yves ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:56:55 -0800 From: "Chris Banyai-Riepl" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: RAF Website Message-ID: <001801be49d2$fd5887f0$9f4ffbce@chris> The RAF website has undergone some changes, and they have added a photo gallery to their history section. The RAF galleries are VERY nice, in that they have choices of either 640x480, 800x600, or 1024x768 resolution pictures, and either in JPG format or zipped BMP. http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/gallery.html There's two pages so far, and I'll be guessing that they will be adding more. Chris Banyai-Riepl Publisher/Editor Internet Modeler http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:37:18 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Completely off topice (was Re: Profile etiquette) Message-ID: <199901271048.KAA02666@beryl.sol.co.uk> > Hmmm. I'd always understood that one "boards" a horse from the left > because one wears one's sabre on the left. If you tried to mount from > the right and swing the left leg over the horse, that damn sabre is > gonna slide out of its scabbard everytime. That's funny - I take my daughter to her pony riding classes every week and they do all mount from the left. I have to say I have seen damn few sabres in evidence though. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:56:00 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Jeanlain bottle painting on Albatros Message-ID: <199901271048.KAA02669@beryl.sol.co.uk> > Have you seen this > photograph of a red Albatros DVa with a bottle of Jeanlain painted on > the fuselage (decal Americal # 8191). > Yves This is the plane MvR was flying when he was shot down by the Bass-Worthington Milk Stout presentation FE2b wasn't it? Although there are now revisionist theories that he was hit in the head by a bottle of Das Dunkel thrown by a drunken pilot behind him. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:04:12 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Kookaburra Snipe book Message-ID: <199901271103.LAA03219@beryl.sol.co.uk> I remember I mentioned this book some time back and somebody queried what it contained (Charles?). Anyway there is one for sale at the moment on ebay and it has a couple of good pictures of the cover and one of the markings pages. If you are interested, take a look at http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=59519904 FWIW Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:18:05 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: SPIN Ansaldo Message-ID: <199901271141.LAA04757@beryl.sol.co.uk> > Wings are thin and well done and interior is fully detailed > with resin, photo etch parts and a transparent part for the > instruments , ala Eduard > This kit is worth its money Thanks Alberto. Oh well, it was my birthday on Sunday and I didn't give myself anything! After videoing D'Annunzio's SVA from every possible angle, at the Vittoriale last summer, I don't think I can resist this one. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 06:15:17 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jeanlain bottle painting on Albatros Message-ID: <36AF0355.4AE1@bellsouth.net> Sandy Adam wrote: > now revisionist theories that he was hit in the head by a bottle of Das > Dunkel thrown by a drunken pilot behind him. ROTFLOL!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 07:55:54 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Ebay In Trouble Message-ID: Since we had the Ebay discussion and user handle list assembled "the other day", I just thought I would mention this. There is an article in this morning's paper stating that Ebay is now under investigation for fraud--started by something about allowing counterfeit "authentic" autographed baseballs to be sold. It is expected to shake them up, even if they come out in the clear. Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:45:27 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fosters Canadian Beer Message-ID: <199901271445.JAA18925@pease1.sr.unh.edu> People, PLEASE bring this beer talk offline. Thanks, Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:53:14 -0600 (CST) From: fedders To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: SPIN Ansaldo Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Ernest Thomas wrote: > Sandy Adam wrote: > > > Does it contain a lot of fine detail bits? Interior? > > TIA > > Not as fine as MY fine interior detail bits! ;) > > E. > On the Spin Ansaldo (Spin coming apparently from the Fokker Spin) I agree, the detail is OK but not great. However the ribs etc are right so you can add cockpit detail. There are a good number of parts + brass. the wings are reasonably thin- maybe 0.15 inches. The kit is not a good as the new Eduard's but not much is. After seein the kit, I would buy it again. peter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:09:20 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: SPIN Ansaldo Message-ID: <199901271608.QAA16134@beryl.sol.co.uk> Thanks to both Peter and Alberto - I've ordered one from Aeroclub (who can get anything that Hannant's stock - and are much better on postal charges / minimum orders) Sandy > On the Spin Ansaldo (Spin coming apparently from the Fokker Spin) > > I agree, the detail is OK but not great. However the ribs etc are right > so you can add cockpit detail. There are a good number of parts + brass. > > the wings are reasonably thin- maybe 0.15 inches. The kit is not a good > as the new Eduard's but not much is. After seein the kit, I would buy it > again. > > peter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:12:23 -0700 From: "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Visit to UK Message-ID: <5DA4C4BE65D9D111A6FC0060081FD2189E71B0@SNEFFELS> Morning all (at least, it is here), We're (my wife and I) are planning a visit to the UK in late May. She has consented to put up with my desire to see aeroplanes and ships if she gets to see gardens. We've already got Portsmouth on the itinerary, and the question(s) I have for you Brits are, what air museums should I visit? Is Hendon the one if I can only visit one? We only have about a week and I'm somewhat ashamed to admit that I'm interested in non-topic stuff as well as WWI. Also, does anyone know if Chartwell (Churchill's home) is open as a museum and if so, exactly where it is? If not, is there a different place we should go as a Churchill Mecca? And what about book stores for aviation related materials? Finally, is Hannant's in London the place to go, or should we plan to go to Lowestoft? In a no doubt hopeless attempt to keep the off-topic mail down, feel free to reply off-line. Thanks all! Michael Satin Michael.Satin@shepards.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 18:06:52 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Visit to UK Message-ID: <199901271807.SAA20905@beryl.sol.co.uk> Hi Michael On the basis that some of the newer members might be a) unaware and b) interested I shall reply on-list. Others please delete if you know this stuff. IMHO the RAFM is the number one port of call for anybody visiting these shores who is interested in aircraft of any type at all. It is pretty far out of central London but the tube to Colindale takes you very near it. (It also deposits you at Hannant's door - which is not a particularly friendly shop - but extremely well stocked! Lowestoft is very remote and really a mail order depot - but look at pics on web-page). The RAFM is really special these days, with such a range of aeroplanes from all periods (apart from the rest) that it is impossible to do it all justice in one day. The IWM is well worth a visit and has lots of bits of planes (including MvR, McCudden etc) but would have to come after RAFM as a recommendation. Without doubt the best, on-topic, bookshop is the Aviation Bookshop in Holloway road - 10 minute walk from tube station. Uncle Sniffy might point you at some others though. Unfortunately there is not much in Holloway Rd - your wife might find an antique shop or suchlike - or might prefer to meet you elsewhere later. HMS Belfast of course is right on the Thames in the centre so you can combine it with other things. A sail down the Thames to Greenwich (to the Cutty Sark) is worth a half a day. If you want to see WWI planes flying it has to be the Shuttleworth collection at Old Warden near(ish) Oxford - check their web page for flying days HTH Sandy ---------- > From: Satin, Michael N. (SHEP) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Visit to UK > Date: 27 January 1999 08:12 > > Morning all (at least, it is here), > > We're (my wife and I) are planning a visit to the UK in late May. > She has consented to put up with my desire to see aeroplanes and ships if > she gets to see gardens. We've already got Portsmouth on the itinerary, and > the question(s) I have for you Brits are, what air museums should I visit? > Is Hendon the one if I can only visit one? We only have about a week and > I'm somewhat ashamed to admit that I'm interested in non-topic stuff as well > as WWI. Also, does anyone know if Chartwell (Churchill's home) is open as a > museum and if so, exactly where it is? If not, is there a different place > we should go as a Churchill Mecca? And what about book stores for aviation > related materials? Finally, is Hannant's in London the place to go, or > should we plan to go to Lowestoft? > > In a no doubt hopeless attempt to keep the off-topic mail down, feel > free to reply off-line. Thanks all! > > Michael Satin > Michael.Satin@shepards.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:50:48 -0600 (CST) From: Rick Milas To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Stripping Paint Message-ID: I've used the Polly Scale paint and decal remover for some time now. It works fine for me and I never had any compaints about it. Rick Milas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:25:50 -0700 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: SPIN Ansaldo Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990127122550.006bc6b0@mail> At 09:53 AM 27/01/99 -0500, you wrote: >The kit is not a good >as the new Eduard's but not much is. >peter > Funny that. In a recent thread on r.m.s., I commented on how great it was that Eduardo was going to release some P-39s (no offtopic jokes please), and how I'd pretty much bought my last Monogram P-39. From everyone else, the general consensus was pretty much who cares, the 32-year-old Monogram kit is perfect, and that Eduard makes those crappy short-run kits, and who wants those anyway? Needless to say, I was floored. I know that the response would have been quite, quite different if I had said that either TAMIYA or HASEGAWA was going to release a new-tool 1/48 version of this airplane. Are they just ignorant of Eduard's current standard these days? Or is it a case of the common opinion where only Hasegawa, Tamiya, and Accurate Miniatures are allowed to release models, and everyone else, especially Hobbycraft, can drop dead? For what it's worth, I think Eduard is fantastic, and can stand up to anything, any period, put out by the big boys, and with, I imagine, only a fraction of their budgets and resources. I hope the years to come see many more Eduard kits, in both scales (1/32 would be nice, but I don't see that happening), and in all eras. In particular, I think the announced 1/72 W.W. I releases look promising, because, aside from Toko's recent releases, 1/72 is most in need of new-tool W.W. I kits. I hope the Dr. I and the Albatros D.V (I guess I won't be buying a Pegasus D.V after all!) will soon be followed by some allied aircraft, perhaps a Camel and the SE-5a. Dane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:36:01 -0700 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: HELP! Problem with Eduard Sopwith Pup! Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990127123601.0070a790@mail> Notwithstanding my recent encomium to Eduard, problems still happen, and quality control has lapses, as it does with any other manufacturer (I could tell you about my recent experiences with a recent release from one Accurate Miniatures, but I won't). Anyway, I was going through some kits I'd bought in the last few months, and one of these was the Eduard 1/48 Sopwith Pup. Overall, a lovely kit, even if it is not up to the standard of the Triplane, and also illustrative of how far this company has come in just a few years. Anyway, I clipped some of the parts off the sprues and started fitting them together. I had bought this kit just before I moved last fall, so I had just thrown into a box of kits, and hadn't really taken a good look at it till the other night. Well, the lower wing appears to be unusable. There is a drastic kink in the wing at the left root. It's nearly impossible to fit it to the fuselage, and the dihedral is of course completely ruined. We are not talking about a mere warp; I can't see the old hot water trick working here. The radius of the kink is just too sharp and tight. What I want is a new wing. So, has anyone else ever had to request a replacement part from Eduard? There is an address on the box, but it, of course, is in the Czech Republic, which is a long, long way away from the Foothills here. And would my letter have to be in Czech? Or can someone there read English? What is S.O.P. for requesting replacement parts from Eduard? I do know that getting replacement parts for Japanese kits can be almost impossible; I hope that is not the case with Eastern European manufacturers. At over $40 Cdn, it's too pricey a kit to simply throw on the pile and buy a new one. Reply off-line if you prefer. Dane- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:50:42 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: rms sissy boys wasRe: SPIN Ansaldo Message-ID: In a message dated 1/27/99 11:28:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, 2814823733@home.com writes: << In a recent thread on r.m.s., I commented on how great it was that Eduardo was going to release some P-39s (no offtopic jokes please), and how I'd pretty much bought my last Monogram P-39. From everyone else, the general consensus was pretty much who cares, the 32-year-old Monogram kit is perfect, and that Eduard makes those crappy short-run kits, and who wants those anyway?>> My "who cares" attitude about the P-39 stems from having a perfectly fine P-39 kit already available- doesn't matter when it was realeased- a good kit is a good kit, and it seems a waste for a company to do something already done well- BUT, I was also dumbfounded by the anti-Eduard attuitude, hence my postings on rms about the new Albatros <. I do believe a certain ignorance is operating here, plus the fact that alot ( not all- don't send me any hate mail)of the rms people are sissy boy whiners who probably have velcro shoes instead of laces because they're too lazy or incompetant to tie their own. <> Absolutely- even in Eduard's "crude" days, the quality lurked within the flash, and the new ones are world class. They would make a great P-39, but I'd to see them instead do somethig else that hasn't been so well covered- howza'bout a DH-4? I'm ready to give up on Glencoe, plus, as nice as the old kit is, and Eduard version WOULD be a great improvement! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:38:30 PST From: "Ultan C J O Broin" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Hanover CL II Kit Message-ID: <19990127203831.12434.qmail@hotmail.com> Can anyone tell me if Airfix still manufacture this kit? Does anyone else manufacture one? Ultan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:09:45 -0600 (CST) From: Rick Milas To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: HELP! Problem with Eduard Sopwith Pup! Message-ID: Dane, About a year and a half ago I purchased the Eduard Pfalz DIII. It was missing a part which looked like it had been cut off the sprue. I did contact Eduard and was sent a free replacement part. They have an address in Canada. I tried phoning them first but the number which I had found listed in Fine Scale Modeler didn't work. So I just tried writing. I believe I used this address: 49 Fair Oaks Cr Nepean, ON K26 4W3 I say I believe I used this address, because I think at the time I had two possible addresses, but this is the one I have written down on my Pfalz instruction sheet. Unless someone else can come up with something more recent, give it a try. Rick Milas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:16:10 -0700 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: rms sissy boys wasRe: SPIN Ansaldo Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990127141610.006eea3c@mail> At 02:54 PM 27/01/99 -0500, you wrote: >In a message dated 1/27/99 11:28:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, >2814823733@home.com writes: > ><< In a recent thread on r.m.s., I commented on how great it was > that Eduardo was going to release some P-39s (no offtopic jokes please), > and how I'd pretty much bought my last Monogram P-39. From everyone else, > the general consensus was pretty much who cares, the 32-year-old Monogram > kit is perfect, and that Eduard makes those crappy short-run kits, and who > wants those anyway?>> > >My "who cares" attitude about the P-39 stems from having a perfectly fine P-39 >kit already available- doesn't matter when it was realeased- a good kit is a >good kit, and it seems a waste for a company to do something already done >well- BUT, I was also dumbfounded by the anti-Eduard attuitude, hence my >postings on rms about the new Albatros Yeah, it's just simple prejudice. I don't want to get too deeply into this, but over the years there have been some incredible hostile ventings against Hobbycraft kits, but when Hasegawa or Tamiya makes mistakes (and they do, and sometimes they are doozies), well, nothing. It makes no sense at all. But it helps to remember that, whatever its regulars think, r.m.s. is NOT the world, and is only a small, possibly insignificant part of it. This might also indicate a general condition that will mitigate against W.W. I ever attaining really widespread popularity. The aircraft are fabulous, the markings colourful and often even outrageous, and W.W. I should be popular, but no matter how good the kits from Eduard get, W.W. I kits will always have two or more wings (okay, some exceptions) which will require careful alignment, and will generally require a greater or lesser amount of rigging. In other words, no W.W. I kit will ever be a "shake the box" kit. It will always require SOME amount of work, patience, and modelling skill from the builder. And yet there seem to be so many modellers who want, at almost any cost, to avoid doing any work on a kit. > < quite, quite different if I had said that either TAMIYA or HASEGAWA was > going to release a new-tool 1/48 version of this airplane. Are they just > ignorant of Eduard's current standard these days? Or is it a case of the > common opinion where only Hasegawa, Tamiya, and Accurate Miniatures are > allowed to release models, and everyone else, especially Hobbycraft, can > drop dead?>. > >I do believe a certain ignorance is operating here, plus the fact that alot ( >not all- don't send me any hate mail)of the rms people are sissy boy whiners >who probably have velcro shoes instead of laces because they're too lazy or >incompetant to tie their own. Only if they are velcro shows manufactured by Tamiya or Hasegawa, with Nike Swoosh markings courtesy of AeroMaster. > < anything, any period, put out by the big boys, and with, I imagine, only a > fraction of their budgets and resources. I hope the years to come see many > more Eduard kits, in both scales (1/32 would be nice, but I don't see that > happening), and in all eras....... > > Dane>> > >Absolutely- even in Eduard's "crude" days, the quality lurked within the >flash, and the new ones are world class. They would make a great P-39, but I'd >to see them instead do somethig else that hasn't been so well covered- >howza'bout a DH-4? I'm ready to give up on Glencoe, plus, as nice as the old >kit is, and Eduard version WOULD be a great improvement! >Robert K. Sure, and why stop there? There are so many World War One subjects crying to be kitted. Also, well I don't mind BM kits at all, these are by their nature short-run, and if you missed them the first time, tough luck. It would be nice to see Eduard do some of the BM kits that are now gone, or eventually will be. And while I am very happy with the quality of my BM Roland C.II, at $80 Cdn, I won't be buying any more. So, if I want to do a second, I will need the Eduard C.II, due eventually. But do you know what I think? I think, that in order to stay solvent and branch out their customer base, Eduard will continue to produce more W.W. II kits, like the P-39. And while I'm sure the old Monogram kit is all right, I think a lot of modellers would really appreciate a new-tool Eduard version, as they would of some other popular subjects, once they can see for themselves how good Edaurd can be. For myself, I have been thoroughly cheesed off at the Monogram P-39 ever since they had the cojones to re-release it in the Pro-Modeller line. The price tripled, all for the inclusion of a lousy, stinkin', tiny fret of brass. Now back to on-topic. Dane > > > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1416 **********************