WWI Digest 1414 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Merlin D.H.10 by "Richard Caudron" 2) RE: Merlin Fe8? by "Richard Caudron" 3) RE: HB W-29 by "Richard Caudron" 4) Re: Fw: kit sources by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 5) Profile etiquette (was RE: D-III Wing Tops) by Bob Pearson 6) Re: Merlin kits/Yuk/Anyone have Fd G.III references? by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 7) Re: Profile etiquette (was RE: D-III Wing Tops) by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 8) Re: Profile etiquette (was RE: D-III Wing Tops) by "Sandy Adam" 9) Pamela Veal Byplanes Snipe by "Sandy Adam" 10) Re: Building a historical sequence.. by "Sandy Adam" 11) RMS Olympic query by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 12) Re: Building a historical sequence.. by James Gibbons 13) Re: Re: Profile etiquette (was RE: D-III Wing Tops) by "cameron rile" 14) RE: Re: Profile etiquette (was RE: D-III Wing Tops) by "John Glaser" 15) by fedders 16) Re: Merlin Fe8? by fedders 17) RE: Pamela Veal Byplanes Snipe by "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" 18) Re: Pamela Veal Byplanes Snipe by "Sandy Adam" 19) Re: by "Steven M. Perry" 20) Holiday? by "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" 21) Re: Holiday? by "Steven M. Perry" 22) Re: Holiday? by mkendix 23) Re: Holiday? Australia DAy by "cameron rile" 24) Re: Holiday? and Fosters Canadian Beer by "cameron rile" 25) Re: Holiday - you need one after the 25th! by "Sandy Adam" 26) Re: Fosters Canadian Beer by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 27) Bristol M-1, Pylon (was: Fosters Canadian Beer) by Allan Wright 28) Re: Holiday - you need one after the 25th! by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 29) Re: Merlin D.H.10 by "richard eaton" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 05:51:49 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: RE: Merlin D.H.10 Message-ID: <000001be48e7$96142360$075f5c8b@PCCE.cim-hardi.be> Why not, there is a plentifull of these kits. And not only WWI. I did start to build the Geebee racer, and I did find two wings from different sizes and the same for the undercarriage. I spent more Putty on that small airplane than on a B-29 scratchbuilt. But, Live is beautifull Regards, Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > David Vosburgh > Sent: maandag 25 januari 1999 16:15 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Merlin D.H.10 > > > In RE: Merlins that are worth building, I got the "Amiens" that Richard > Eaton had up for grabs a few weeks ago, and until I opened the > box had never > seen a Merlin kit. I thought I was prepared for the quality, thanks to > Rich's advance warnings, but when I actually looked at the parts > I burst out > laughing. My first thought was that my 12-year old could've made better > masters out of Sculpey, but as I fiddled around with it I realized that it > was like a gauntlet thrown down... "Here, chump! See what you can do with > this one!" > > Even if I never actually get it done, the value I've gotten from simply > imagining what I could do with it was worth the money. Maybe we > could start > another list of "Merlin Kits That Are Worth Fantasizing About Building"... > > DV > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:02:40 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: RE: Merlin Fe8? Message-ID: <000201be48e9$195f2c00$075f5c8b@PCCE.cim-hardi.be> same for me. Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Dennis Ugulano > Sent: dinsdag 26 januari 1999 1:27 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Merlin Fe8? > > > Charles, > > >> really appreciate the input of everyone regarding which Merlin kits > are more worthy than others. << > > I do not have the Fe8. If they did one it was after I stopped > buying them. Their quality hit such a low that the last review > of a Merlin > kit in Windsock simply stated "A Merlin kit of their usual quality was > received" or something to that effect. It was not even worth a review. I > have no idea of the quality since the Rumpler C.III/IV. > Personally, I will > not buy anymore Merlin kits. > > Dennis Ugulano > email: Uggies@compuserve.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:02:51 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: RE: HB W-29 Message-ID: <000301be48e9$1fdb5400$075f5c8b@PCCE.cim-hardi.be> I am sure bout the difficulty to build it. It is not really in my planning on short term because, I am not sure to have the correct level to start to build it with the hope of a good result. But it will happen a day... Please, pictures at richard_caudron@ibm.net Regards, Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Dennis Ugulano > Sent: dinsdag 26 januari 1999 1:27 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: HB W-29 > > > Richard, > > >> Did yo build the Lohner L from Wings ? << > > As a real glutton for punishment, I built two Lohner L's at the > same time. (The doctor says I'm getting better) I kept one and the other > went to Michigan. > > >> it sems to be one of the finest airplane (and kit) > ever build. << > > It is a beautiful kit but a basic vacuform. Excellent > instructions, 3 metal parts and a nice decal sheet. It is one of the > nicest kits in my collection but absolutely the most difficult kit I ever > built. > > I will get photos on line soon > > Dennis Ugulano > email: Uggies@compuserve.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:08:50 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fw: kit sources Message-ID: <199901260508.VAA25318@compass.OregonVOS.net> Matt writes: > >Can anybody help this fella out? Nope. The Metropolitan MS Type N was never produced. Metropolitan only produced the Caudron G.3 kit - the Taube, SPAD XIII, and MS type N kits, while featured in some of the advertising as "coming soon", were never actually produced. Cheers and all, Bill >--------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: "Card, Geo" >To: "'mbittner@juno.com'" >Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:28:30 -0800 >Subject: kit sources >Message-ID: ><31A4D7F91689D011B99800805FBEB0A30385CBCC@xch-evt-09.ca.boeing.com> >Return-path: >Received: from mx2.boston.juno.com (mx2.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.55]) > by x2.boston.juno.com (8.8.6.Beta0/8.8.6.Beta0/2.0.kim) with ESMTP id >MAAAA24359 > for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:28:33 -0500 (EST) >Received: from stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com (stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com >[192.161.36.9]) > by mx2.boston.juno.com (8.8.6.Beta0/8.8.6.Beta0/2.0.kim) with ESMTP id >MAAAA24274 > for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:28:31 -0500 (EST) >Received: from xch-pssbh-01.ca.boeing.com ([192.42.211.28]) > by stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com (8.9.0/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23946 > for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:28:30 -0800 (PST) >Received: by xch-pssbh-01.ca.boeing.com with Internet Mail Service >(5.5.2407.0) > id ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:26:09 -0800 >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2407.0) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain > >Dear Matt: >I came across your list of Morane-Saulnier model kits on the web, and I >am interested to know where I might obtain the kit produced by >"Metropolitan" of the type N, in 1/24 scale. Can you tell me where it is >available? Thanks, >geo.card > > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org Associate Professor of Bisociation Studies Nicholas Bourbaki Institute for the Study of Non-reproducible Phenonmena "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:46:26 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Profile etiquette (was RE: D-III Wing Tops) Message-ID: <199901260646.WAA25003@spare.rapidnet.net> John, My entire series of 1100+ watercolour profiles are of port side views .. I did a couple of stbd ones for FMP/OTF and did it ever seem strange. No idea why the convention is of port side views. BTW the FMP Pfalz and British markings books have top views included. Bob ---------- > From: "John C Glaser" > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: D-III Wing Tops > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 05:38:25 -0500 (EST) > > Bob: > Thanks for indulging my breach of "no tops" etiquette. This must be the > same etiquette book that specifies only left side of aircraft can be > displayed :). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:01:05 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Merlin kits/Yuk/Anyone have Fd G.III references? Message-ID: <36AE10F1.3C51@ricochet.net> Richard Caudron wrote: > > Merlin Models. Heeeeeuuuuuuuuuuukkkkkk ... Fo the most part, I'd have to concur with above, but what do you do when someone GIVES you one of a plane you really like and even offers a cash incentive to build it? Although I'm not sure they qualify as scale model kits, most Merlin products can, with an extrordinary amount of perserverence and elbow grease can theoretically be built. This may me a quixotic exercise, but if one succeeded in wringing the likeness of an aircraft out of one of these wretched sets of plastic slabs and lumpy white metal bits, it would be like slaying a dragon, no? That having been said, anyone have the Fd G.III datafile? I'd like to get a better idea of what I'm really letting myself in for: therapy, a straight jacket or ?. I have the AEG G.IV, Pfalz D.III and Snipe books (not to mention rare references) for loan-swap. Riordan (de La Mancha) P.S. I have now have an Eduard Voss Pfalz (Thanks Steve!). If anyone would like a Voss upgrade, I'll trade the Voss decal sheet for one from the first issue Pfalz kit. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:07:35 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Profile etiquette (was RE: D-III Wing Tops) Message-ID: <199901260707.XAA15690@compass.OregonVOS.net> Bob writes: >My entire series of 1100+ watercolour profiles are of port side views .. I >did a couple of stbd ones for FMP/OTF and did it ever seem strange. No idea >why the convention is of port side views. Well, that is the side the pilot generally sees as, with only a few exceptions, aircraft are 'mounted" from the left side - and have been since the WW1 era. The more interesting question might be, why does one "mount" an aircraft from the same side one mounts a horse? Certainly not all, or even a majority, of the early pilots were ex-cavalry troopers? Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org Associate Professor of Bisociation Studies Nicholas Bourbaki Institute for the Study of Non-reproducible Phenonmena "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:17:45 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Profile etiquette (was RE: D-III Wing Tops) Message-ID: <199901261032.KAA21232@beryl.sol.co.uk> > The more interesting question might be, why does one "mount" an > aircraft from the same side one mounts a horse? Certainly not > all, or even a majority, of the early pilots were ex-cavalry > troopers? Presumably because the majority of the population are right-handed and right-legged? You put the less-favoured leg into the stirrup/foothole and then use the favoured leg to perform the more intricate operation of avoiding saddle and wiggling foot into other stirrup (or whatever the aeronautical equivalent is!)? Same reason we started with pedestrian traffic on the left side of the road - so you had your right hand nearest oncoming strangers for a handshake or a sword-draw! Then vehicular traffic followed same convention. (Of course you, ex-colonial lot, perversely decided to do the opposite just because you could - and now drive on the right for no good reason at all! - although I have to admit it does feel good to hang your left arm out of an automatic convertible!) Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:01:02 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Pamela Veal Byplanes Snipe Message-ID: <199901261032.KAA21228@beryl.sol.co.uk> > Sandy, > The white metal engine looked a little suspect and the VERY short > review in the Windsock says it's details are questionable. If you have a > better opinion, I'd love to hear it. I've always liked the Snipe and > managed to glom onto this one a couple of years ago. I consider myself > lucky to get any Snipe in 1/48. If this is THE one, so much the better! > Hi Michael I don't have the WS review to hand, but remember buying the kit when it first came out on the strength of rave reviews in Scale Models etc. I built it then and the result can be seen on Al's Images page (although it survives from the days when I used to use sprue rigging, so I angled the photo to hide the rigging!) Memories of the kit were certainly rosy and were reaffirmed when I found another recently in London and bought it. IMHO this is as crisply moulded as any vac I have yet seen. The panel work on the fuselage is beautiful and rib and stringer work is excellent. The engine does seem fairly substantial but looks good to me when cleaned up and installed in the cowling. Another joy is the multitude of slots and holes round the cabine/engine area which give such realistic ppes into the innards. I bought the second one with a view to a Salamander conversion for my "Sopwith Collection" but I can't bear to think of losing that fuselage! I'll probably wait for the BM Snipe and make that into a Salamander instead. HTH Sandy PS just looked up Brad Hansen's guide again and see that he thinks it was the best vac up to then. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:32:44 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Building a historical sequence.. Message-ID: <199901261033.KAA21236@beryl.sol.co.uk> Great idea Bill Developement of British design changed the appearance of the aircraft so dramatically over the five years that you would get a real contrast from first to last. Unlike the Germans, whose significant planes all looked pretty much the same in layout (although construction was often revolutionary) you could start with a Boxkite design, move to a pusher, then a radial biplane tractor, then a Triplane and a monoplane, an in-line scout and a pusher and tractor two-seater. What about the following: Inpact/Pyro Bristol Boxkite Blue Max/Smer DH 2 Eduard Pup Eduard Tripehound Lonestar Bristol Monoplane (or Eduard MS-N) Monogram SE5a Aeroclub FE2b Aeroclub Bristol Fighter You might wish to add an Inpact Bleriot, an Eduard MS-L, a Sierra Bristol Scout, an Aeroclub BE2c (when it appears or a Falcon vac if you are perverse!), an Eduard Sopwith Baby, a Blue Max Camel, an Aeroclub RE8, a TC Short 184, a TC Felixstowe and a Blue Max Snipe and Dolphin (when they appear) - But if you do that you might as well go the whole hog and try to build all the significant types, which is my own long-term aim!!! HTH Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:30:53 -0800 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: WW1 posts Subject: RMS Olympic query Message-ID: <36AEC0AC.300E2B3B@tac.com.au> Hi gang, I've got a query from ex list member Dr Peter Mitchell, who is after stbd views of RMS Olympic in dazzle camo during WW1. Although Peter only asked me to post this in SMML, I know, even if Peter has forgotten, that there is a vast a body of knowledge out there which is not restricted to aircraft. If you have any replies, could you please cc it to shipmodels@tac.com.au as well. Thanks Shane (The Younger) Asst Listmaster SMML ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:01:03 -0500 From: James Gibbons To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Re: Building a historical sequence.. Message-ID: <01BE4902.05C03F40.jgibbons@vppsa.com> Okay I know its more than eight but what the heck... Boxkite or Farman (pre-war and training) Be-2 (Early operational aircraft) FE-2b (Two seat pusher design - multi role) DH-2 (Early single seat fighter design - pusher - pre synchronization) Sopwith Pup (Early single seat fighter design - post synchronization) Sopwith Triplane (Naval aircraft, triplane design, and its influence on other designers) SE-5 or 5a (Mid to late war single seat in-line fighter design) Sopwith Camel (most enemy aircraft downed - rotary design/maneuverability) Bristol F2b (Mid - late war two-seat fighter) Sopwith Snipe or Dolphin (Late war fighter designs) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:07:15 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Re: Profile etiquette (was RE: D-III Wing Tops) Message-ID: <199901260510392@cameron.prontomail.com> Bill wrote, >>> The more interesting question might be, why does one "mount" an aircraft from the same side one mounts a horse? Certainly not all, or even a majority, of the early pilots were ex-cavalry troopers? <<<< majority of people are right handed and it is more natural for a right handed person to lift their right leg first. Maybe? cam footer : AFC page at : http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm RBII page at : http://members.xoom.com/artattack/index.htm Visit my homepage at http://www.prontomail.com/Prontomail/users/cameron ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:48:27 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: Re: Profile etiquette (was RE: D-III Wing Tops) Message-ID: <000101be4932$8d257fb0$56404a0c@jg_notebook> IIRC the movie sequence of MvR mounting F102/17, he is getting in on the starboard side. Could this mean he was left handed? - John -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu] On Behalf Of cameron rile Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 7:07 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Re: Profile etiquette (was RE: D-III Wing Tops) Bill wrote, >>> The more interesting question might be, why does one "mount" an aircraft from the same side one mounts a horse? Certainly not all, or even a majority, of the early pilots were ex-cavalry troopers? <<<< majority of people are right handed and it is more natural for a right handed person to lift their right leg first. Maybe? cam footer : AFC page at : http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm RBII page at : http://members.xoom.com/artattack/index.htm Visit my homepage at http://www.prontomail.com/Prontomail/users/cameron ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:10:30 -0600 (CST) From: fedders To: models Message-ID: Yesterday I received the Ansaldo SVA5 (1/48 by Spin) that I had ordered from Hannants. With only a brief inspection, the dimensions appear to be excellent, number of ribs right, etc. The molding good. The decals include the famous lion of St. Marks and the Visconti family snake that is on the cover of the Windsock Datafile. As most of you know, the Artiplast/Smer Ansaldo is terrible - one would essentially have to scratch build the wings to get them even close. peter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:11:31 -0600 (CST) From: fedders To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Merlin Fe8? Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Charles Stephanian wrote: > > I've heard that Merlin produced a kit of the Fe8...is that so and, if > so, is this one of the 'better'Merlin efforts. > I really appreciate the input of everyone regarding which Merlin kits > are more worthy than others...after having my heart broken because of > their Wapiti, I'd given up even considering them... > > Thanks! > > Charles T. > Lone Star makes a nice 1/48 vac FE8 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:13:25 -0700 From: "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Pamela Veal Byplanes Snipe Message-ID: <5DA4C4BE65D9D111A6FC0060081FD2189E719A@SNEFFELS> Sandy, YIPES! Didn't mean to step on any toes! If you have actually built the kit, then you're obviously way ahead of me, and I bow to your superior experience (and probably knowledge). ;-) Seriously, thanks for your comments. It's nice to know that a kit I picked up as (I thought) the only alternative appears to be the best one as well. I have a Tom's 1/48 British set that I plan to use on it, and I'm sure it will come out fine. Now I just need to find a south facing window to tape the decal sheet in for a few weeks. Thanks again! Michael Hi Michael I don't have the WS review to hand, but remember buying the kit when it first came out on the strength of rave reviews in Scale Models etc. I built it then and the result can be seen on Al's Images page (although it survives from the days when I used to use sprue rigging, so I angled the photo to hide the rigging!) Memories of the kit were certainly rosy and were reaffirmed when I found another recently in London and bought it. IMHO this is as crisply moulded as any vac I have yet seen. The panel work on the fuselage is beautiful and rib and stringer work is excellent. The engine does seem fairly substantial but looks good to me when cleaned up and installed in the cowling. Another joy is the multitude of slots and holes round the cabine/engine area which give such realistic ppes into the innards. I bought the second one with a view to a Salamander conversion for my "Sopwith Collection" but I can't bear to think of losing that fuselage! I'll probably wait for the BM Snipe and make that into a Salamander instead. HTH Sandy PS just looked up Brad Hansen's guide again and see that he thinks it was the best vac up to then. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:31:57 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Pamela Veal Byplanes Snipe Message-ID: <199901261431.OAA00582@beryl.sol.co.uk> > YIPES! Didn't mean to step on any toes! No problems Michael - I didn't think you'd stepped on my toes. I'm just glad somebody else has got one of these very rare kits to make. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:45:33 -0500 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990126094533.0068ee2c@pop.mindspring.com> At 09:09 AM 1/26/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Yesterday I received the Ansaldo SVA5 (1/48 by Spin) that I had ordered >from Hannants. > >With only a brief inspection, the dimensions appear to be excellent, >number of ribs right, etc. The molding good. The decals include the >famous lion of St. Marks and the Visconti family snake that is on the >cover of the Windsock Datafile. As most of you know, the Artiplast/Smer >Ansaldo is terrible - one would essentially have to scratch build the >wings to get them even close. > >peter What is that sound I hear?? Oh, it's Ernest screaming and tearing his hair out. :-) sp Sounds like a great kit Peter, thanks for review. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:26:54 -0700 From: "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Holiday? Message-ID: <5DA4C4BE65D9D111A6FC0060081FD2189E719E@SNEFFELS> OK, here's a rather off-subject question. It is 8:23 am on Jan. 26 here in Colorado, USA. Is it Australia Day down-under, or was that yesterday? In any case, happy A. Day to all our Aussie friends, have a REAL beer for me! Michael Satin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:53:37 -0500 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Holiday? Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990126105337.0068dee0@pop.mindspring.com> At 10:26 AM 1/26/99 -0500, you wrote: >OK, here's a rather off-subject question. It is 8:23 am on Jan. 26 here in >Colorado, USA. Is it Australia Day down-under, or was that yesterday? In >any case, happy A. Day to all our Aussie friends, have a REAL beer for me! > >Michael Satin Let me second those wishes for a pleasant Australia Day to all our Australian friends. As for the beer, that Fosters we get here is pretty good. It doesn't seem any stronger than the domestic variety though, then again maybe you have to drink it upside down for it to go to your head and give the full effect. :-) Happy A. Day to all sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:51:38 -0500 (EST) From: mkendix To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Holiday? Message-ID: Michael: I know this is off-topic but as a matter of curiousity, do they make real beer in Australia or is it of the American-Lager-Beer variety; Fosters/Budweisser? Michael mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Satin, Michael N. (SHEP) wrote: > OK, here's a rather off-subject question. It is 8:23 am on Jan. 26 here in > Colorado, USA. Is it Australia Day down-under, or was that yesterday? In > any case, happy A. Day to all our Aussie friends, have a REAL beer for me! > > Michael Satin > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:59:27 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Holiday? Australia DAy Message-ID: <199901260803212@cameron.prontomail.com> >>> OK, here's a rather off-subject question. It is 8:23 am on Jan. 26 here in Colorado, USA. Is it Australia Day down-under, or was that yesterday? In any case, happy A. Day to all our Aussie friends, have a REAL beer for me! <<< Apart from daylight saving differances Australia is approximately 16 hours ahead of the USA ( ie 4pm on the 26th of Jan US time is 8am Jan 27th Au time). Since it is Australia Day inthe US now lol, I am celebrating, I have shown everyone ( at work ) the possible designs for the new Australian flag as well as the current Australian flag as well as the old southern cross flag. For tonight I am well prepared as well. There is also a bloke in Florida you can order Australian Meat Pies from and there is a mail order company which imports Australian foods. Plus the local grog shop for some obscure reason imports Coopers Pal Ale via a Gerogian Company( finally a decent brew on this godforsaken hops deficient continent ). So despite the lack of sun and a pool ( there is snow on the gorund for chrissakes! that isnt Australia Day ), I will be celebrating Australia Day in North America with meat pies for lunch, a thick steak from the open fire grill with an Aussie beer and Fantales and Jaffa's for sweets. If only the US had flies in January, I could kid myself I was back home :) The seasons being opposite tends to make me homesick on days like Australia Day. cam ( now on his second bday and Australia Day away from home ) Visit my homepage at http://www.prontomail.com/Prontomail/users/cameron ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:05:41 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Holiday? and Fosters Canadian Beer Message-ID: <199901260809342@cameron.prontomail.com> Steven wrote: >>> As for the beer, that Fosters we get here is pretty good. It doesn't seem any stronger than the domestic variety though, then again maybe you have to drink it upside down for it to go to your head and give the full effect. :-) <<<< sorry one last flippant note and I will stop wasting bandwidth. The Fosters which is NE USA is brewqed in Canada and tastes like Canadian beer, back home the Fosters is a decent drop and a fairly strong bitter ( extremely bitter in comparison to US domestic beer ). The swill that is served under the Fosters name in the US doesnt do the Australian domestic beer any favours. Id say the Fosters name is what is being sold, the taste is typical generic US beer which is a shame, as Fosters aint that bad :) If you can try to get a hols of ' Fosters Special Bitter " , it is the same as what standard Fosters in Australia is like. If you spot it, get Coopers Dark Ale or Coopers Pale Ale. The Pale is a sweet bitter and pretty indicative of the Australian pallette for beer. In the USA I have found Samuel Adams to be about the best beer around apart from some "knock your socks off " Jeinlein French/Cagean beer I had once. Struth was that stuff strong. cam ---- AFC page at : http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm ---- RBII page at : http://members.xoom.com/artattack/index.htm cam Visit my homepage at http://www.prontomail.com/Prontomail/users/cameron ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:25:49 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Holiday - you need one after the 25th! Message-ID: <199901261625.QAA05451@beryl.sol.co.uk> Hadn't realised 26th was Australia day. You may be all aware that 25th January is Burns' Day when all Scots the world over toast the haggis in copious amounts of the finest whisky in memory of Robert Burns. We are all so totally legless by the end of the evening that the 26th is an official unofficial holiday! (Must have been a lot of ex-pat Scots on the committee that decided on when to set Australia Day!) Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:28:24 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fosters Canadian Beer Message-ID: >> In the USA I have found Samuel Adams to be about the best beer around apart from some "knock your socks off " Jeinlein French/Cagean beer I had once. Struth was that stuff strong. cam << As Al, the keeper of the best Internet list available, is also a fellow beer lover (and brewmaster), are we really off topic here? ;-) Try the Samuel Adams Cream Stout, if you haven't already. I don't think you will be disappointed if you like a good dark beer! Only thing better is from a local brew-pub (Lazlo's in Lincoln, NE USA - check ratings on links from Al's web site) that has a rich, full-bodied cream stout and special "occasional" brews, as well as lagers. I will never go back that soda pop put out as Bud, Miller, etc. Maybe we should run a survey of favorite beers--after all, we have done it for model kits, aircraft, music, etc.? Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:36:02 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Bristol M-1, Pylon (was: Fosters Canadian Beer) Message-ID: <199901261636.LAA13875@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > As Al, the keeper of the best Internet list available, is also a fellow beer lover (and brewmaster), are we really off topic here? ;-) Well, yes, actually I think we may have crossed the line somewhere along the way. Any yes, I like Sam Adams too. Let's drop this thread though. For the modelers: NB: Toko Snipe (x2) ESCI Nieu-17c (x2) Alb C-II Vac Pegasus Bristol M-1 Anyone have any ideas on how to scratch-build the pylon on the Bristol? I'm thinking of fine guage brass wire and CA glue. -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:40:40 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Holiday - you need one after the 25th! Message-ID: Needless to say, Sandy, that you don't rig any aircraft models on Jan. 26th? ;-) A happy (belated) Burns Day and Australia Day to all--have an extra round for those of us who can't. Paul A. Schwartzkopf >>> "Sandy Adam" 01/26 10:24 AM >>> Hadn't realised 26th was Australia day. You may be all aware that 25th January is Burns' Day when all Scots the world over toast the haggis in copious amounts of the finest whisky in memory of Robert Burns. We are all so totally legless by the end of the evening that the 26th is an official unofficial holiday! (Must have been a lot of ex-pat Scots on the committee that decided on when to set Australia Day!) Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:38:55 -0600 From: "richard eaton" To: Subject: Re: Merlin D.H.10 Message-ID: <199901261738.LAA02169@sierra.onr.com> Yes, several list members are eyeballing that Merlin gauntlet right now. Riordan, have you had a chance to look at the Fried G.III yet? I have only completed one Merlin Kit. The Ne. 10 on my site. I would never purchase (or sell for that matter) any current Merlin product for retail. Some of the older ones were worth the challenge and have been listed in other messages. He of the advanced warning. Richard ---------- > From: David Vosburgh > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Merlin D.H.10 > Date: Monday, January 25, 1999 9:15 AM > > In RE: Merlins that are worth building, I got the "Amiens" that Richard > Eaton had up for grabs a few weeks ago, and until I opened the box had never > seen a Merlin kit. I thought I was prepared for the quality, thanks to > Rich's advance warnings, but when I actually looked at the parts I burst out > laughing. My first thought was that my 12-year old could've made better > masters out of Sculpey, but as I fiddled around with it I realized that it > was like a gauntlet thrown down... "Here, chump! See what you can do with > this one!" > > Even if I never actually get it done, the value I've gotten from simply > imagining what I could do with it was worth the money. Maybe we could start > another list of "Merlin Kits That Are Worth Fantasizing About Building"... > > DV > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1414 **********************