WWI Digest 1413 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Bob Pearson's site and British Serials by Matthew E Bittner 2) Five Color Lozenge by "Mark Shanks" 3) Fw: kit sources by Matthew E Bittner 4) Re: Five Color Lozenge by mkendix 5) Re: Have you seen this video? by Dave Sterner 6) Re: Five Color Lozenge by "David Vosburgh" 7) Re: Bob Pearson's site and British Serials by "Sandy Adam" 8) Re: HB W-29 by "Sandy Adam" 9) Re: Five Color Lozenge by "Mark Shanks" 10) RE: Bob Pearson's site and British Serials by "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" 11) Re: Five Color Lozenge by "Mark Shanks" 12) RE: HB W-29 by "Richard Caudron" 13) Photo additions to the web pages by Allan Wright 14) RE: Merlin, was HB W-29 by "Richard Caudron" 15) Merlin Fe8? by Charles Stephanian 16) Re: D-III Wing Tops by bucky@ptdprolog.net 17) Re: Merlin Fe8? by Dennis Ugulano 18) RE: HB W-29 by Dennis Ugulano 19) Building a historical sequence.. by Bill Neill 20) Re: Building a historical sequence.. by "Sharon Henderson" 21) An Aviation World Toronto Service by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) 22) Re: Building a historical sequence.. by KarrArt@aol.com 23) Re: Building a historical sequence.. by John & Allison Cyganowski 24) Re: Have you seen this video? by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) 25) Re: Building a historical sequence.. by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) 26) The "other" MVR video by MACFARB@aol.com 27) RE: Building a historical sequence.. by Shane Weier 28) Re: Albatros top wing scheme by "Bill Ciciora" 29) Re: Finding a pilot by Rick Milas 30) Re: Finding a pilot by Bob Pearson ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:25:29 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Bob Pearson's site and British Serials Message-ID: <19990125.102623.-792825.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:45:49 -0500 (EST) "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" writes: > To that end, a question for the list. I have Blue Max's Camel >and >would really like to do B6313. Does anyone have any great ideas about >where >I can get small numbers/letters for 1/48 RFC/RNAS/RAF WWI serials? I >can >probably come up with the rest of the markings myself, but those >serials are >a bear. If rub down type is recommended, what font and how small? Pegasus. They have produced RFC/RNAS/RAF serials in 1/72nd, and I'm pretty sure in 1/48th as well. Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:16:30 -0700 From: "Mark Shanks" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Five Color Lozenge Message-ID: <199901251707.JAA21500@mailhost.fltdyn.com> I request the assistance of ye honorable listmembers: I have a "crash" project (no pun intended) and need top and bottom 1/48th five color lozenge decals. Can someone tell me how much Americal/Gryphon is charging for these (sheets 5 and 6 or 20 and 21) and their shipping costs? Please? (My catalog is LONG out of date, and they don't seem to have a phone number.) Or even better, would anyone be willing to sell me a set? Payed for with US money order in advance? Sorry to sound desperate, but......I am, sort of. Replies off-line, of course. Sorry to bother you all! Mark mshanks@fltdyn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:39:49 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Fw: kit sources Message-ID: <19990125.113950.-874129.0.mbittner@juno.com> Can anybody help this fella out? --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Card, Geo" To: "'mbittner@juno.com'" Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:28:30 -0800 Subject: kit sources Message-ID: <31A4D7F91689D011B99800805FBEB0A30385CBCC@xch-evt-09.ca.boeing.com> Return-path: Received: from mx2.boston.juno.com (mx2.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.55]) by x2.boston.juno.com (8.8.6.Beta0/8.8.6.Beta0/2.0.kim) with ESMTP id MAAAA24359 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:28:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com (stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com [192.161.36.9]) by mx2.boston.juno.com (8.8.6.Beta0/8.8.6.Beta0/2.0.kim) with ESMTP id MAAAA24274 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:28:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from xch-pssbh-01.ca.boeing.com ([192.42.211.28]) by stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com (8.9.0/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23946 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:28:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by xch-pssbh-01.ca.boeing.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2407.0) id ; Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:26:09 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2407.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Dear Matt: I came across your list of Morane-Saulnier model kits on the web, and I am interested to know where I might obtain the kit produced by "Metropolitan" of the type N, in 1/24 scale. Can you tell me where it is available? Thanks, geo.card ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:41:15 -0500 (EST) From: mkendix To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Five Color Lozenge Message-ID: Mark: I have their "Early Winter 1998 Sheet" sent to me in December 1998. The 4, and 6 sheets are 1/72nd scale. The 20, 21 are 1/48th scale; all are $6.50. Their shipping costs (remember this is prior to the postage price increase) are #sheets 1st class overseas 1-2 $1.75 $3.70 3-4 $2.30 $4.50 5-6 $3.00 $5.60 7-10 $3.50 $6.50 > 10 10% of order 10% of order Also, 8.25% sales tax for Texas residents, checks in U.S.$ payable to "AMERICALS". I just sent off for some 1/72nd 5-colour lozenge sheets, so I don't have ayn to sell. Their address :is Americal/Gryphon Decals 4373 Varsity Lane Houston, TX 77004-6617 HTH Michael mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Mark Shanks wrote: > I request the assistance of ye honorable listmembers: I have a > "crash" project (no pun intended) and need top and bottom 1/48th five > color lozenge decals. Can someone tell me how much Americal/Gryphon > is charging for these (sheets 5 and 6 or 20 and 21) and their > shipping costs? Please? (My catalog is LONG out of date, and they > don't seem to have a phone number.) Or even better, would anyone be > willing to sell me a set? Payed for with US money order in advance? > Sorry to sound desperate, but......I am, sort of. Replies off-line, > of course. > > Sorry to bother you all! > > Mark > mshanks@fltdyn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:01:11 -0800 From: Dave Sterner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Have you seen this video? Message-ID: <36ACB166.108F523D@mediaone.net> Hi Bob, Thanks for the recommendations. I surfed over to the A & E site and in 7 to 10 business days fellow list member Peter Crow and I will be popping some corn, drinking some brew and enjoying the FOUR YEARS OF THUNDER and MvR videos. Score one more good deed in the rather large "Good Things Bob Has Done" column. You're welcome to join us..... Thanks again, Dave Bob Pearson wrote: > Dave, > > For other videos having WW1 footage there is the A&E Documentary FOUR YEARS > OF THUNDER, as well as their MvR bio. . another company did one called THE > RED BARON (not the one recently discussed)< but I haven't seen it. And then > there is the episode of WORLD WAR 1 from CBS in the 50s or 60s called > DAREDEVILS AND DOGFIGHTS. > > Regards, > Bob > > PS thanks for the comment on my site ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:18:11 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Five Color Lozenge Message-ID: <001e01be488f$11d138c0$0bd690d0@Pvosburg> Welcome back, Mark... Fred Nurks says to say hi. How's that off-topic Junkers-thingie coming? Speaking of long-time-no-posts, has anyone noticed we seem to be one Aussie short these days? Did Mick ever make it back from Jersey/RI/Canada? Inquiring minds want to know these things. DV -----Original Message----- From: Mark Shanks To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, January 25, 1999 1:51 PM Subject: Five Color Lozenge >I request the assistance of ye honorable listmembers: I have a >"crash" project (no pun intended) and need top and bottom 1/48th five >color lozenge decals. Can someone tell me how much Americal/Gryphon >is charging for these (sheets 5 and 6 or 20 and 21) and their >shipping costs? Please? (My catalog is LONG out of date, and they >don't seem to have a phone number.) Or even better, would anyone be >willing to sell me a set? Payed for with US money order in advance? >Sorry to sound desperate, but......I am, sort of. Replies off-line, >of course. > >Sorry to bother you all! > >Mark >mshanks@fltdyn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:26:53 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Bob Pearson's site and British Serials Message-ID: <199901251827.SAA00072@beryl.sol.co.uk> > would really like to do B6313. Does anyone have any great ideas about where > I can get small numbers/letters for 1/48 RFC/RNAS/RAF WWI serials? I can Pegasus (Blue Max) do a sheet of exactly that in 1/48. All the permutations of white on black, b on w, sopwith squares etc are included. (Beware though that you need two sets to do both sides on many of the styles included) I hope the "Aaargh" wasn't for the Pamela Veal Byplanes Snipe? This is one of the very best vacforms ever made! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:09:47 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: HB W-29 Message-ID: <199901251827.SAA00069@beryl.sol.co.uk> > > That just reminded me. I built the Sierra AEG III in 1/48th a few > > years back for someone. It was a nice kit. Went together well and looked > > good. I have photos. Anyone want to see them? I'd love to see them Dennis. My AEG is all cut out but that's as far as I got before something else sang its siren song. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:37:31 -0700 From: "Mark Shanks" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Five Color Lozenge Message-ID: <199901251828.KAA23210@mailhost.fltdyn.com> Hello, David! > Welcome back, Mark... Fred Nurks says to say hi. How's that off-topic > Junkers-thingie coming? It's taken a back seat to the new Eduard Albatross Dr I, which I am doing out-of-the-box for a local competition. Problem is: I have an Americal/Gryphon set of four-color sheets, and the kit's five-color isn't accurate (pattern or colors). SO - I could use the four color (no one *I* know would know the difference) and live with it, or get a five color one. Meanwhile, the 388 will be back on the bench by Valentine's Day - just a minor interruption. Also - picked up the Toko Hansa Brandenburg (Squadron has 'em for under $10!!) It's a cleaner molding than the MPM, plus it has a beaching dolly (THAT'S something I can use!), but the lozenge is at LEAST 1/48th, and odd-looking to boot. So - buy both kits! (We have a competition in July for "things that float" - maybe I can get it done by then??) > Speaking of long-time-no-posts, has anyone noticed we seem to be one Aussie > short these days? Did Mick ever make it back from Jersey/RI/Canada? > Inquiring minds want to know these things. Gee, haven't heard/read anything. I just re-upped this morning. Good to hear from you! mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:59:51 -0700 From: "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Bob Pearson's site and British Serials Message-ID: <5DA4C4BE65D9D111A6FC0060081FD2189E7196@SNEFFELS> Sandy, The white metal engine looked a little suspect and the VERY short review in the Windsock says it's details are questionable. If you have a better opinion, I'd love to hear it. I've always liked the Snipe and managed to glom onto this one a couple of years ago. I consider myself lucky to get any Snipe in 1/48. If this is THE one, so much the better! Hi Ho! Michael -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Adam [mailto:cbbs@almac.co.uk] Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 11:28 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Bob Pearson's site and British Serials I hope the "Aaargh" wasn't for the Pamela Veal Byplanes Snipe? This is one of the very best vacforms ever made! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:04:27 -0700 From: "Mark Shanks" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Five Color Lozenge Message-ID: <199901251855.KAA23870@mailhost.fltdyn.com> Ooops - sorry, didn't mean to post that last to the list!!! My blushes!! Mark mshanks@fltdyn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:15:01 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: RE: HB W-29 Message-ID: <000001be4897$0209a280$f7305c8b@PCCE.cim-hardi.be> Did yo build the Lohner L from Wings ? I id not begin mine, but it sems to be one of the finest airplane (and kit) ever build. Ant picture ? richard_caudron@ibm.net Regards, Richard Caudron > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Dennis Ugulano > Sent: maandag 25 januari 1999 4:51 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: HB W-29 > > > John, > > >> They also have 2 versions of the W-12 (long & short > fuselage). << > > This is very intersting. I have both the long and short fuselage W-12 by > Wings 72. I have built the short version. For a vacuform it is an > excellent kit. I will be doing a review of the Wings 72 W-12 and Lohner L > seaplane as soon as I get my page up. > > Dennis Ugulano > email: Uggies@compuserve.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:31:28 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Photo additions to the web pages Message-ID: <199901251931.OAA08534@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Hi Everyone, Let me thank everyone for the recent flood of images for the web page - keep 'em coming. BUT, I'm in a crunch at work that will be happening for about 2-3 more weeks, so please bear with me on getting them on-line. They'll get there eventually, as I find time. -Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:36:28 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: RE: Merlin, was HB W-29 Message-ID: <000201be489a$00b24880$f7305c8b@PCCE.cim-hardi.be> You may add Junkers J1, DH5 GunBus, Nieuport 10, rumpler 6B1, DH10 and so on ... It exists better bases from which a good model can be done. Regards, Richard Caudron > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Matthew E Bittner > Sent: maandag 25 januari 1999 12:07 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Merlin, was HB W-29 > > > On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:47:46 -0500 (EST) "Richard Caudron" > writes: > > >Merlin Models. Heeeeeuuuuuuuuuuukkkkkk ... > > Actually, the W.12 is one of the better ones, albeit thick in the > cockpit. Check out Steve Hustad's picture of it built up - yup, that's a > Valhalla. > > While we have had this discussion many times, there are Merlin's worth > building. Then again, there are also Merlin's worth throwing away. I > just "acquired" their MoS Type AI, and while I have a lot of sanding > ahead of me...it's pretty accurate, and buildable - as long as you don't > mind working on a kit. Plus I'm sure there will be others chiming in on > Merlin's worth building. Let's see if I can get most of them off the top > of my head: > > W.20 > Fokker D.VI > Breguet 14 > Strutter (?) > > It's all a matter of perspective... > > > Matt Bittner > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:48:12 -0800 From: Charles Stephanian To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Merlin Fe8? Message-ID: <954FDA1EE71CD2118BAB00104B939AA8045CE7@serverx.sfai.edu> I've heard that Merlin produced a kit of the Fe8...is that so and, if so, is this one of the 'better'Merlin efforts. I really appreciate the input of everyone regarding which Merlin kits are more worthy than others...after having my heart broken because of their Wapiti, I'd given up even considering them... Thanks! Charles T. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:57:11 -0500 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: D-III Wing Tops Message-ID: <36ACF6C7.6DF320CC@ptdprolog.net> Bob Pearson wrote: > Guess it is time to branch out to top views . . . . > Bob, Exatly what I was thinking this Saturday when I was talking things over with Barry! Since you have sooooo many already done, perhaps a few generic ones (5 color French camo, etc) could be done to cover those that didn't have distinctive top wing/underwing markings.Mike Muth (Always willing to come up with ideas to make other people work.) nb: Blaue Maus D-III & Maxwell's Hurricane(Finally getting around to it!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:25:30 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Merlin Fe8? Message-ID: <199901251925_MC2-67F6-79AD@compuserve.com> Charles, >> really appreciate the input of everyone regarding which Merlin kits are more worthy than others. << I do not have the Fe8. If they did one it was after I stopped buying them. Their quality hit such a low that the last review of a Merlin kit in Windsock simply stated "A Merlin kit of their usual quality was received" or something to that effect. It was not even worth a review. I have no idea of the quality since the Rumpler C.III/IV. Personally, I will not buy anymore Merlin kits. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:25:29 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: HB W-29 Message-ID: <199901251925_MC2-67F6-79AC@compuserve.com> Richard, >> Did yo build the Lohner L from Wings ? << As a real glutton for punishment, I built two Lohner L's at the same time. (The doctor says I'm getting better) I kept one and the other went to Michigan. >> it sems to be one of the finest airplane (and kit) ever build. << It is a beautiful kit but a basic vacuform. Excellent instructions, 3 metal parts and a nice decal sheet. It is one of the nicest kits in my collection but absolutely the most difficult kit I ever built. I will get photos on line soon Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:42:26 -0500 From: Bill Neill To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Building a historical sequence.. Message-ID: <199901251942_MC2-67F7-39D5@compuserve.com> I am new to the group, and to WW1 modelling, so please excuse the silly question following (first of several, probably) I want to put together a sequence of models in 1:48 scale to illustrate the development of British aviation during WW1. I want 6 to 8 in the sequence, each model should be visually distinctive, and the set should show a clear evolutionary pattern from 'sticks and string' to the quite sophisticated designs of 1918. I hope also for recommendations for (reasonably) good kits to build the sequence from. Thanks for your help Bill Neill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:53:47 -0500 From: "Sharon Henderson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Building a historical sequence.. Message-ID: <9901251953.AA47950@ft.sumter> Welcome to the ward, Bill! :-) Just wanted to say I love your idea, and to let you know: among us'ns, there simply IS no such thing as a silly question. TRUST me on that one! Everyone here is very nice, and patient, and funny. Especially late at night (for certain factors of "late", when we have such an international cast of characters.... ) Best of luck with your project! I'll let the experts do the recommending, and just put in the first request for pictures when you're done! :-) Best, Sharon in Fairfax, VA > I am new to the group, and to WW1 modelling, so please excuse the > silly question following (first of several, probably) I want to > put together a sequence of models in 1:48 scale to illustrate > the development of British aviation during WW1. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:15:03 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Cc: avworld Subject: An Aviation World Toronto Service Message-ID: Hi List, For those of you who mainly mail order for your WWI kits and books, or those of you in Canada/U.S. who haven't hooked into a regular mail order house yet - we have the following news... Aviation World in Toronto is offering a new service for WWI modelers: they will E-mail out news of newly arriving WWI kits/books/etc. and send you info on their WWI specials. This service is available to anyone who requests to be put on their WWI E-mail list. Prices are in Canadian dollars, so those in the U.S. may find a savings (not sure...but maybe). This service has just started up, and the second post I got was about a sale on the Hawkeye resin Dr.I for $25 and change. That's about $18 US or so, which might be a pretty good deal if you can't get it elsewhere. E-mail to the address below if you are interested in this WWI modelers service. Note that I am not affiliated with AvWorld in any way, other than being a pretty steady customer. I don't want Barry to be hurt by this either, since his service is second to none and he's a great guy too. This is all just info you might be interested in. avworld Kevin Barrett. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:28:28 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Building a historical sequence.. Message-ID: In a message dated 1/25/99 4:44:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, BillNeill@compuserve.com writes: << I am new to the group, and to WW1 modelling, so please excuse the silly question following (first of several, probably) I want to put together a sequence of models in 1:48 scale to illustrate the development of British aviation during WW1. I want 6 to 8 in the sequence, each model should be visually distinctive, and the set should show a clear evolutionary pattern from 'sticks and string' to the quite sophisticated designs of 1918. I hope also for recommendations for (reasonably) good kits to build the sequence from. Thanks for your help Bill Neill >> First off- welcome to the zoo! Hoo boy, what a question! A toughy- and the answers will be as varied as the cast of loonies here! My list would look something like the following, and it may change in 10 minutes ( kit recommendations, if any, in parentheses): 1.BE2 2. Avro 504 (the old but useful Smer ) 3.Sopwith Baby (Eduard) 4.Fe2b (Aeroclub ) 5.DH-2 6.Sopwith Pup (Eduard) 7.Bristol F2b (pick one of the new kits on the market, although from folks I've talked to, go with the Aeroclub) 8.RE-8 ( Aeroclub) 9.SE5a 10.Sopwith Camel 11.Martinsyde Buzzard I know that's 11 airplanes, but it covers some significant ones. As I wrote- my picks may change in 10 minutes! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:14:17 -0500 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Building a historical sequence.. Message-ID: <36AD16E9.BC2@worldnet.att.net> Bill Neill wrote: > > I am new to the group, and to WW1 modelling, so please excuse the silly > question following (first of several, probably) > I want to put together a sequence of models in 1:48 scale to illustrate the > development of British aviation during WW1. Hi Bill, Welcome to the list. Beware of the Scot in the Sun! ;-) Well, how about the following: 1.) A Farman would be a real tinker toy but I don't know of a kit. 2.) Sopwith Tabloid (convet the Eduard Baby) 3.) Fe2b (Aeroclub, but be prepared to spend a fraction of your life rigging!) 5.) Sopwith Pup (Eduard) 6.) SE5a (Monogram or Blue Max - Depends on the Wallet or Linberg if you are into punishment) 7.) Camel (Monogram or Blue Max) 8.) Brisfit (Blue Max or Aeroclub - If you get this far, remember me in your will) ;-) Regards, John Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:08:00 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Have you seen this video? Message-ID: Dave says: > Thanks for the recommendations. I surfed over to the A & E site and in 7 >to 10 business days fellow list member Peter Crow and I will be popping some >corn, drinking some brew and enjoying the FOUR YEARS OF THUNDER and MvR videos. I got Four Years of Thunder from A&E too. Great series, and I enjoy a random video from it at least once a month. I've got the "Aces" video spoken of on the list this past weekend, and I don't like it as much. Enjoy, Kevin Barrett ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:11:14 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Building a historical sequence.. Message-ID: >Bill Neill wrote: >> >> I am new to the group, and to WW1 modelling, so please excuse the silly >> question following (first of several, probably) >> I want to put together a sequence of models in 1:48 scale to illustrate the >> development of British aviation during WW1. > Hi Bill, Here are my suggestions, 1) BE2c 2) FE2b 3) DH2 4) Sopwith Pup 5) RE8 6) Se5a 7) Bristol Fighter 8) Sopwith Camel All in 1/72, of course! Enjoy! Kevin Barrett ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:37:49 EST From: MACFARB@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: The "other" MVR video Message-ID: <49746a07.36ad2a7d@aol.com> I have a copy of the documentary "The Red Baron " that was made almost 30 years ago by some company called Halgebauer Productions. It's still readily available from Zenith books catalog. . I f you haven't seen it ,it's pretty cool because there are filmed interviews with World War I personalities like Donald MacLaren and the infamous Arch Whitehouse. The last surviving member of the Flying Circus ,Hans Van der Osten (hope I spelled that right) also offers a couple of anecdotes about MvR. An Australian digger who witnessed the Baron's last flight from a telegraph pole(Robert Buie?) has his say too.I am sure that many of you who have seen this tape have some accuracy problems with it (Lanoe Hawker is called "Lance") but I think it is an hour and $20 well spent . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:16:10 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Building a historical sequence.. Message-ID: Bill, > I am new to the group, and to WW1 modelling, so please excuse > the silly question following (first of several, probably) The only silly questions around here are the ones left unasked. And experience says that the *truly* silly question will be left unpunished while the merely humorous will be dealt with mercilessly ;-) > I want to put together a sequence of models in 1:48 scale to > illustrate the development of British aviation during WW1. This is a really great idea, but you'll get about 150 different ideas of which kits you *must* have to illustrate it. Having said that I'll make *my* recommendations, warning that some are long out of production though still sometimes seen for sale. 1. Bristol Boxkite - Inpact/Lifelike - a grand old kit worth hunting down. 2. Bristol Scout C - Sierra Scale (vacform) 3. BE2 - I think one is due from Aeroclub 4. Sopwith Pup (Eduard) 5. Sopwith Camel or SE-5a (Blue Max and Lindberg or wait for Eduard) 6. Sopwith Snipe (?) or Dolphin (coming from Aeroclub) > I want 6 to 8 in the sequence, each model should be visually > distinctive, and the set should show a clear evolutionary > pattern from 'sticks and string' to the quite sophisticated > designs of 1918. Unfortunately this can't easily be done with British designs, because there weren't many evolutionary changes and perilously few revolutionary ones. British design was more a matter of refining the basic tenets than looking for seriously new methods. So the Scout C and Snipe both have wire braced wooden fuselages with doped fabric covering - but power, speed, rosbustness, manouverability and firepower are vastly increased. By contrast the German designs start with open wooden frame wirebraced wing warpers, through welded steel frames with conventional ailerons to stressed aluminium skin semi-monocoque fuselages with cantilever wings. > I hope also for recommendations for (reasonably) good kits to > build the sequence from. Annoyingly the only "modern" kits mentioned above are for the Pup and Camel (and the Camel is an excellent shortrun kit). RFC aircraft just don't capture the attention of many modellers and the manufacturers haven't helped one bit Good luck with this project! Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:48:43 -0600 From: "Bill Ciciora" To: Subject: Re: Albatros top wing scheme Message-ID: <199901260348.VAA27356@kajiki.wwa.com> Bob wrote: >> Guess it is time to branch out to top views . . . << Time to branch out to five-views; show that Apostolo a thing or five ;-) Bill Ciciora ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:37:47 -0600 (CST) From: Rick Milas To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Finding a pilot Message-ID: Hi all, A friend of mine told me that he had a relative who was a German pilot in wwi. He said the last name was Teufel. That's all I have at this time. I'm reasonably certain there was no fighter pilot by this name. So if the name is correct, he must have flown in a different capacity. Does anyone have any listings to tell me if there was such a person? Or what sources might I check to find out? Thanks. Rick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:33:24 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Finding a pilot Message-ID: <199901260433.UAA24041@spare.rapidnet.net> Rick, Not listed in "THE JASTA PILOTS" .... Bob ---------- > From: Rick Milas > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Finding a pilot > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:37:28 -0500 (EST) > > Hi all, > A friend of mine told me that he had a relative who was a German pilot in > wwi. He said the last name was Teufel. That's all I have at this time. I'm > reasonably certain there was no fighter pilot by this name. So if the name > is correct, he must have flown in a different capacity. Does anyone have > any listings to tell me if there was such a person? Or what sources might > I check to find out? Thanks. > Rick ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1413 **********************