WWI Digest 1412 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: HB W-29 by "Richard Caudron" 2) RE: HB W-29 by "Richard Caudron" 3) Re: Disposal of Off-Topic Kits by Mike Dicianna 4) Re: Disposal of Off-Topic Kits by Mike Dicianna 5) Re: Off-topic, off-list by Mike Dicianna 6) Rotary vs In line, who's toughest? by Dave Watts 7) Re: Off-topic, off-list by Bob Pearson 8) Re: Have you seen this video? by Bob Pearson 9) "Cost" of war by Dave Watts 10) Re: Have you seen this video? by KarrArt@aol.com 11) RE: Flashback HB W-29 by "Robert Woodbury" 12) RE: Flashback HB W-29 by Shane Weier 13) RE: Disposal of Off-Topic Kits by Shane Weier 14) RE: D-III Wing Tops by "John C Glaser" 15) Re: HB W-29 by Matthew E Bittner 16) Re: Merlin, was HB W-29 by Matthew E Bittner 17) "New" Images by Matthew E Bittner 18) Thanks by "Steven M. Perry" 19) Re: Merlin, was HB W-29 by Dennis Ugulano 20) RE: Disposal of Off-Topic Kits by Mike Dicianna 21) Re: "New" Images by Mike Dicianna 22) Re: Photographing models by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 23) Merlin D.H.10 by "David Vosburgh" 24) Bob Pearson's site and British Serials by "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" 25) Re: Merlin D.H.10 by Matthew E Bittner ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 06:47:07 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: RE: HB W-29 Message-ID: <000201be4826$24eb2560$4a5f5c8b@PCCE.cim-hardi.be> I discover in a old SMI a itm about the Meikraft W29 (1/72). A picture hown the kit unbuilt, but out of its box. And it seems to be just the same as the MPM, beside decals. Can anybody confirm ? Richard Caudron > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Sandy Adam > Sent: maandag 25 januari 1999 0:41 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: HB W-29 > > > > > Almost at the same time, we got PEGASUS, I think EDUARD > > > and then TOKO. I have the PEGASUS kit > > > but did not build it. I did not buy the EDUARD kit. > > While Eduard may be about to do a W.29, they haven't yet. You'll be > thinking > > of the MPM kit........ > > I'm sure he is thinking of the Eduard W.29 which was never actually issued > by Eduard but passed on to Flashback who (presumably added the resin bits > and) released it. > > I think you also missed one of the better W.29s, Dennis, the > Sierra vacform. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 06:47:10 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: RE: HB W-29 Message-ID: <000301be4826$2654c780$4a5f5c8b@PCCE.cim-hardi.be> Merlin Models. Heeeeeuuuuuuuuuuukkkkkk ... Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Matthew E Bittner > Sent: maandag 25 januari 1999 4:36 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: HB W-29 > > > On Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:06:46 -0500 (EST) John Huggins > writes: > > >They also have 2 versions of the W-12 (long & short > >fuselage). > > Valhalla - associated with Merlin - also does the W-12 long fuselage (I > think it's the long fuselage) in 1/72nd. > > > Matt Bittner > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:18:09 +0000 From: Mike Dicianna To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Disposal of Off-Topic Kits Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990124221809.006f0be8@dnc.net> At 07:51 PM 1/24/99 -0500, you wrote: >Mike Dicianna wrote: >> >> I've put together a list of off topic items I'm looking to get rid of... >> >> Of course, contact me off list, It will remain our little secret.... >> >> Still have a Eduard Morane Saulnier Type 1/48th up for grabs.... >> You know what I like!! >> Mikedc >> "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" > >I'll take the Morane, if it's the parasol. Please? >E. > >The N type I have is the Mid wing, I think the parasol is a type L (?) LMK Mikedc "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:19:22 +0000 From: Mike Dicianna To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Disposal of Off-Topic Kits Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990124221922.006f2e64@dnc.net> --=====================_917216362==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:02 PM 1/24/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Mike: > >If there's anything left I'd like to see the list... > >Regards, > >Dave > Just have been sending it out this evening. So far all are up for grabs. WWI aircraft trades are top priority, cash is ok too.... --=====================_917216362==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Email Disp List.txt" MIKE DICIANNA'S KIT DISPOSAL LIST UPDATED: JANUARY 24, 1999 Note, all kits are complete, some have parts clipped from sprue to check fit. Many listings have extra goodies. First priority goes to any interesting WWI Aircraft trades. Actual shipping costs added. Cleaning out the hobby closet...specializing now in the "GREAT WAR" SECTION ONE: WWII AIRCRAFT 1/72nd Scale Aircraft Hasegawa FW190A-8 Nacht Jager Squadron vac Canopy 8.00 Hasegawa Me262-B1 2 seat night fighter Started (barely) 7.00 Hasegawa J7W2 Shinden Jet Special (weird) markings 7.00 Hasegawa A6M2a Zero Type 11 New tooling - sweet! 8.00 Hasegawa J8M1 Shusui Me163 Japanese copy 6.00 Hasegawa Ki15 I "babs" Recon Aeromaster decals 6.00 Hasegawa Ki84 "Frank" "home defense" markings 6.00 Hasegawa B5N2 "Kate" Torpedo Bomber Nice kit 6.00 Hasegawa Ki48 Type 99 "Lily" Bomber W/I1 Missile kit incl. 7.00 Hasegawa N1K1 Kyofu "Rex" Floatplane New tooling kit - nice 8.00 Hasegawa Ki45 kai Toryu "Nick" New tooling - nice 8.00 Hasegawa A6M3 Zero Type 32 Older kit #A5 4.00 Hasegawa Birdcage Corsair Kit #C14 4.00 Hasegawa FM-1 Wildcat (Atlantic gr/wh) New Tooling kit - nice 6.00 Hasegawa SBD-6 Dauntless "ace of spades" New tooling kit 6.00 Hasegawa F6F-3 Hellcat navy fighter Squadron Vac Canopy 4.00 Hasegawa TBM1c Avenger Torpedo bmbr New tooling kit - nice 8.00 Hasegawa P-38 J/L Lightning kit #816 Great detail 8.00 Hasegawa P-40N Warhawk Eduard PE details/49th FG decal 8.00 Hasegawa P-51C Mustang "Yellow tail" New tooling - nice 6.00 Hasegawa P-51D Mustang Older kit A-12 4.00 Hasegawa Curtis Kitty Hawk (P-40) Older kit #114 4.00 Hasegawa Spitfire Mk.1 Older kit #099 4.00 Hasegawa M.S.406 Morane Saulnier French fighter - great kit 6.00 Hasegawa Yak-3 Russian Fighter Russian Guards markings - nice 6.00 Fujimi Ju87 B/R Stuka Squadron Vac Canopy 6.00 Fujimi B7A1 Ryusei "Jill?" Japanese Dive Bomber 6.00 Fujimi Spitfire F.R. Mk14E Fighter Recon - nice kit 6.00 Academy F4F-4 Wildcat Scalemaster decals 3.00 Academy TBF-1 Avenger nice kit 3.00 Academy P-51D Mustang Korean War markings 3.00 Airfix Ki46-II Dinah Recon Nice start for superdetail job 3.00 Airfix FW 189 Recon Twin boom, lots of canopy! 3.00 Airfix Mosquito MKII/VI/XVIII Nice kit - good starting point 3.00 Heller Fi156 Fiesler Storch Good ole' standby... 3.00 Italeri Junkers JU-188 Good detail/decals 5.00 Italeri FW190 A-8/f Nice kit 4.00 Italeri B25 H/J "gunship" Wonderful kit 5.00 Italeri HE111 H6 Started (fuselage) 5.00 DML He162A2 Volksjager PE details/nice kit 7.00 DML Do335B-2 Dornier Arrow PE details/ Nice kit 7.00 1/48th scale aircraft WWII Fujimi FW190-D9 Fighter WWII #P-6 5.00 ARII (ex-Otaki) Bf109G Messerschmidt Good kit 5.00 Testors Me163 Komet ex-Hawk? Good decals 4.00 Czechmodel Me263a-1 Nice Truedetails Resin parts 10.00 Hasegawa Ki27 Nate Early Japanese fighter 12.00 Hasegawa SBD-3 Dauntless Squadron Vac Canopy 12.00 Hasegawa P51D Mustang W/ Resin tires,Verlinden detail, Aeromaster decals 25.00 Tamiya N1K1 Shinden "George" Eduard PE set....cool! 15.00 ASSORTED OTHER WWII ITEMS: Williams Bros Pratt & Whitney "wasp" Radial engine 1 1/2"=1' scale 15.00 Academy 1/144th B26b Marauder bomber Nice kit - started fuselage 3.00 Academy 1/144th B24J Libarator Assembly ship decals - nice detail 3.00 Academy 1/144th Mitsubishi G4M1 Betty Bomber Great kit 3.00 TAILBURNERS/BLOWTORCHES (JETS) 1/72ND Hasegawa T-33a Shooting Star Older kit #038 3.00 Hasegawa F9F2 Panther Jet Missing front canopy 3.00 Hasegawa FA18a Hornet "USMC CAG Bird" 4.00 Hasegawa F4B/N Phantom II Resin wheels,seats, Micro decals 15.00 Hasegawa F-111D/F "TAC" bomber Verlinden Detail set #472 15.00 Hasegawa F16A + Falcon Resin Seat/PE Canopy detail 6.00 Hasegawa F-15C Eagle Aftermarket decals in box 6.00 Hasegawa X29 Started PE canopy details 4.00 Hasegawa Mil Mi-24 Hind -A Russian Helicopter w/book 8.00 Fujimi F-86F Sabre Jet "Mig Killer" issue 6.00 Fujimi A-7B Corsair II "Barn Owls" issue 6.00 Fujimi A-7E Corsair II W/superscale decals 72-113 6.00 Fujimi A-4M Marine Skyhawk PE Ladder 6.00 Fujimi A-6E Tram Intruder Super kit! Xtra decals 8.00 Fujimi RF-4B Recon Phantom "Spectre" Issue 6.00 Fujimi F-16B Falcon 2 seater 4.00 DML Mig 17 Fresco Great kit/detailed 6.00 Italeri AC119K Gunship (Flying Boxcar) Nice kit 15.00 Tamiya Bell X-I "Mach Buster" Full interior/clear fuselage 6.00 Hobbycraft Bell X-1 Good detail 4.00 MPM Mcdonnell XF-85 Goblin PE details 4.00 EMHAR FJ-4B Sea Fury Short run kit 4.00 Hasegawa Complete set of weapons 1-6 + ground crew 1/72nd set= 15.00 Fujimi US Navy Flight Deck Crew (kinda skinny people) 4.00 Verlinden US Navy Carrier Fire Tractor No:358 4.00 1/48th jets/accessories Monogram F4C/D Phantom II With a pile of aftermarket decals! 8.00 Verlinden F-14 Cockpit Detail Set #428 PE Canopy/Resin Seats 6.00 1/144thJets DML F-14A Tomcat VF-84 Jolly Roger Nice detail 3.00 DML Harrier GR.5 Nice detail 3.00 DML A6E Tram Intruder Started/nice kit 3.00 DECALS 1/48TH & 1/72ND Microscale 48-80 F-100D Super Sabre 2.00 Microscale 48-137 F-16A 338TFW, 474TFW, 429TFS,474TFW 2.00 Microscale 72-182 B-17G Flying Fortress 91st BG 2.00 Superscale 72-159 Mig 21 2.00 Superscale 72-427 A-4 Skyhawks VMA223,VA55, VC-5 2.00 Superscale 72-191 F-14 Tomcats VF-84,VF-41,VF-14 2.00 --=====================_917216362==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mikedc "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" --=====================_917216362==_-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:21:16 +0000 From: Mike Dicianna To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Off-topic, off-list Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990124222116.006f5218@dnc.net> At 08:21 PM 1/24/99 -0500, you wrote: >Whoops! Check your address lines, Homer --- so much for "our little secret", >huh? > >DV > >Whoops again....I did the same thing also....Since I sent the list out as an attachment, I assume the WWI list will kick it back to me.... I guess I need to pay more attention myself. > Mikedc "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 01:33:50 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: Subject: Rotary vs In line, who's toughest? Message-ID: <199901250632.BAA00328@sam.on-net.net> Hi all, This is not quite about models, but may make one reconsider a reason why someone would continue to fly a rotary powered aircraft over a in line water cooled aircraft. I don't think I've brought up the subject before, but I've wanted to, if I already have forgive me. I found this interesting passage on page 285 of "Fokker the Creative Years", by A.R. Weyl. "The Fok. D.VII at the front The first example of the Fok. D.VII to go to the front went to Manfred von Richthofen's unit, Jagdgeschwader I, early in April 1918. Von Richtofen was seen flying it when visiting neighbouring aerodromes. Against the enemy, however, he flew his Fok. Dr.I until his death on April 21." It would be interesting to know what Weyl's source was. I will have to check with Peter Grosz, since he now owns Weyl's archives. I know that Pete has not only cast doubts over some of Weyl's statements in the book, but has proved some to be false. I don't want to discuss if MvR flew a D.VII in combat, or the merits of a Dr.I versus a D.VII. What this does make me think of is the advantages of fighting with a rotary powered aircraft over that of a stationary in line powered aircraft with regards to how many "hits" you could sustain before being in trouble. With a Mercedes powered aircraft, such as the D.VII, you have a water cooling system with lines leading to and from the radiator and water pump, which are vulnerable to "hits". You have a oil system with lines running to the reserve oil tank and various areas of the motor back to the oil pump, all susceptible to "hits". You also have a pressurized main and reserve fuel system that is "allergic" to "lead poisoning", and will break out in "flaming hives" if infected. On the other hand, with a rotary powered aircraft you don't have a water cooling system, exposed oil system, or pressurized fuel system. In fact the rotary motor may, to some degree, act like a shield for the pilot in head on attacks. These factors, (along with the maneuverability), may have led some pilots to continue on with the Dr.I's even after they had been "superseded" by the D.VIIs. Obviously the D.VII with a BMW had too much in the way of performance advantage over the Dr.I to be considered, but a D.VII with a Mercedes may have given a pilot second thoughts for keeping his Dr.I. Best Wishes, Dave W. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:32:59 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Off-topic, off-list Message-ID: <199901250632.WAA06294@spare.rapidnet.net> Mike writes . . > >Whoops again....I did the same thing also....Since I sent the list out as > an attachment, I assume the WWI list will kick it back to me.... ------------------------- Wrong .. we know your dirty little secrets .. . < Bf109G Messerschmidt Good kit> . Can I get the Airfix Mosquito? Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:49:17 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Have you seen this video? Message-ID: <199901250649.WAA06799@spare.rapidnet.net> Dave, For other videos having WW1 footage there is the A&E Documentary FOUR YEARS OF THUNDER, as well as their MvR bio. . another company did one called THE RED BARON (not the one recently discussed)< but I haven't seen it. And then there is the episode of WORLD WAR 1 from CBS in the 50s or 60s called DAREDEVILS AND DOGFIGHTS. Regards, Bob PS thanks for the comment on my site ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 02:28:32 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: Subject: "Cost" of war Message-ID: <199901250726.CAA01279@sam.on-net.net> Hi all, Again, not directly model related. I'm not certain of the effects of cost as to how the army decided to award contracts back then, but even today, for a full scale replica builder, the cost of building a rotary type aircraft are much lower since you don't need a radiator, external oil tank, and pressurized fuel system. Plus there is a lot more fuel, air, oil, and water lines, valves, gauges, (such as two fuel pressure gauges, and manual air pump), and fittings, with a in line motor aircraft. Also it deserves mention of the weight differential penalties of the water cooled motor versus the rotary in addition to what supplementary things were needed. I believe the horsepower to weight ratio must have been significant when the total motor weight and accompanying systems are taken into account. I imagine, but do not know that the service life was much longer for a water cooled motor, and maybe reliability was better, but I still contend there is more to go wrong with a in line motor, especially when it comes to being shot at, (taking into consideration all supplementary systems). I was wondering if the cost and the dependability were "real" concerns of the army. In the case of the D.VIII, it was a great airplane, but its' speed must have been a great drawback. Possibly the army always wanted to have rotary powered aircraft so as to have an alternative powered based aircraft if there was hold ups with in line water cooled motors. Although I can't imagine that a problem affecting in line motor production wouldn't also affect rotary motor production. With the British strives in radial motors, I'm certain if given time, that would have been the motor of choice, as proved later after the war. Can anyone quote the cost of a Dr.I? The cost of a D.VII was roughly 25,000 GDM, (Gold Deutsche Mark), and another 25,000 GDM for the Mercedes, making the total cost 50,000 GDM. Some weight specs. for consideration; Empty Loaded Fok.Dr.I 400kg. 586kg. Fok.D.VII 695kg. 875kg. Fok.D.VIII 360kg. 550kg. Best Wishes, Dave W. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 03:05:55 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Have you seen this video? Message-ID: <9ff782fb.36ac25e3@aol.com> In a message dated 1/24/99 11:00:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, bpearson@kaien.com writes: << And then there is the episode of WORLD WAR 1 from CBS in the 50s or 60s called DAREDEVILS AND DOGFIGHTS. Regards, Bob PS thanks for the comment on my site >> CBS had a show called "Airpower" that was from the 50's and it had an episiode devoted to WW I and then in the mid '60 they did a multi-part series just about WW I and one episode of this was devoted to aviation. ( every Sunday evening I had to catch "The Twentieth Century" and "WW I ')The Airpower episode was narrated by Rickenbacker! Oddly, the Airpower episode about barnstorming in the 20s and 30s was narrated by Art "Ed Norton" Carny. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:14:06 +0800 From: "Robert Woodbury" To: Subject: RE: Flashback HB W-29 Message-ID: <000301be483a$ad4780c0$91107482@robertw-pc-fl.per.clw.csiro.au> Hi All Okay...we're all agreed that the fuselage is too shallow, at least according to the current drawings. I'm inclined to ignore this as it looks right anyway. My concern (confusion?) relates to the gunners cockpit area- from memory, the curves here look incorrect, at least for the type of tail (late model) that's included in the kit. The concave area looks as though it needs to be built up, to represent a later model fuselage. The photo of the prototype W-29 springs to mind vs photos of later model machines. I'll happily eat humble pie if it turns out I'm wrong, but to my eye it looks suspicious. It's much easier to correct these curves than to build a whole new tail. Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:07:59 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Flashback HB W-29 Message-ID: Hi Rob, > Okay...we're all agreed that the fuselage is too shallow, at > least according to the current drawings. The drawings are correct. I've just spent two hours running the ruler and some basic trig over every side on shot and (allowing that, yes, photos do sometimes introduce distortion) Ian Stair has the basic proportions of the fuselage bang to rights. Unfortunately it's not so simple to fix, because although the depth discrepancy is pretty neatly 2mm throughout the entire length, the error is actually spread proportionally throughout the height of the fuselage, and not simply a matter of the pattern maker leaving a chunk off the bottom. Adding a 2mm shim will certainly correct the profile, but the flat inclined panels either side ofthe engine will then appear too shallow > I'm inclined to ignore this as it looks right anyway. I'm going to halve the difference. It *does* look good as is, and a *1mm* sheet of card on the bottom will beef it up enough to disguise the Twiggy factor without entirely ruining the proportions. The alternative is so much work as to make scratchbuilding preferable (or you could track down Bob Norgrens nice vac) > > My concern (confusion?) relates to the gunners cockpit area- > from memory, the curves here look incorrect, at least for the type of tail > (late model) that's included in the kit. The concave area looks as though > it needs to be built up, to represent a later model fuselage. Okay, i understand what you mean now. Not a "late model fuselage but.... > The photo of the prototype > W-29 springs to mind vs photos of later model machines. Machine 2204 is the only one I have a photo of which has the gunners station depicted as in the kit. Every other German built machine has the gun ring surrounds faired in a straight line down to the upper longeron. There is a *third* variation, in the UFAG built machines, but like the bulges on those machines for the pilots gun(s) it presumably relates to different guns/mounts. > I'll happily eat humble pie if it turns out I'm wrong, but to > my eye it looks suspicious. It's much easier to correct these curves > than to build a whole new tail. Ten minutes with Milliput versus 30 minutes with card? Neither seems to be too great a task to me. I *like* this model. The subject is absolutely wonderful, especially if you can resist becoming the millionth person to make Friedrich Christiansens machine. Incidentally, in your earlier post you said: >That way you avoid having to redesign the fuselage around the gunners area >and having to search for replacement decals (a bit of a problem if you're >like me and the spares box isn't too full). Unfortunately Flashback went nuts and unlike MPM, Toko etc they decided to use diagonal application of the hex. One can't be dogmatic about these things lest one end up looking a complete clot, but I *still* haven't seen a photo of diagonal naval hex application after a lot of years of looking. You might get some Copper State Models Naval hex from John Corsair at F4U Hobbies for a reasonable price, or at the cost of a little time buy some Americals ones direct - both are good. Or of course, leave them as is ! In any case, if you build it, show us Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:12:41 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Disposal of Off-Topic Kits Message-ID: Mike, (SNIP, SNIP, SNIPSNIPSNIP) HUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL... Dammit, now I've gone and lost my lunch.. What the hell was that foule smell went through the list just then? Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:38:37 -0600 From: "John C Glaser" To: Subject: RE: D-III Wing Tops Message-ID: <000001be484e$de0ac7d0$f011820a@johng-home> Bob: Thanks for indulging my breach of "no tops" etiquette. This must be the same etiquette book that specifies only left side of aircraft can be displayed :). - John -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Pearson Sent: Sunday, January 24, 1999 10:28 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: D-III Wing Tops John, >From the top? But no one looks at profiles from the top .. why would anyone need to know what colours they are :-) Looking at the actual profiles, I have them in Green/Brown for Allmendroder and Green/Mauve for Brauneck . . . however as recent discussion on the list will show they may be Pale Brunswick Green, Olive Green and dark Venetian Red. Guess it is time to branch out to top views . . . . Regards, Bob ---------- > From: "John C Glaser" > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: D-III Wing Tops > Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:07:10 -0500 (EST) > > I've been spending the evening perusing Bob Pearson's profiles for > inspiration. I think I'd like to do my Eduard D-III as either Allmenroder's > or Brauneck's machine. A question that is not clear from the profiles" > What colors / scheme for the wing tops. Bob? TIA > > > - John > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:57:31 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: HB W-29 Message-ID: <19990125.050848.-843515.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:47:31 -0500 (EST) "Richard Caudron" writes: >I discover in a old SMI a itm about the Meikraft W29 (1/72). A picture >hown >the kit unbuilt, but out of its box. And it seems to be just the same >as the >MPM, beside decals. >Can anybody confirm ? Oh, no no no no no no. In other words, no. The MPM is light years ahead of the Meikraft. The W.29 was typical early Meikraft - very thick, although it really didn't matter with the wings. While the Meikraft wing doesn't have the problems the MPM wing does, they're still different kits. Believe me, I built a Meikraft and own an unbuilt MPM. ;-) Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:57:43 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Merlin, was HB W-29 Message-ID: <19990125.050848.-843515.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:47:46 -0500 (EST) "Richard Caudron" writes: >Merlin Models. Heeeeeuuuuuuuuuuukkkkkk ... Actually, the W.12 is one of the better ones, albeit thick in the cockpit. Check out Steve Hustad's picture of it built up - yup, that's a Valhalla. While we have had this discussion many times, there are Merlin's worth building. Then again, there are also Merlin's worth throwing away. I just "acquired" their MoS Type AI, and while I have a lot of sanding ahead of me...it's pretty accurate, and buildable - as long as you don't mind working on a kit. Plus I'm sure there will be others chiming in on Merlin's worth building. Let's see if I can get most of them off the top of my head: W.20 Fokker D.VI Breguet 14 Strutter (?) It's all a matter of perspective... Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 05:49:49 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: "New" Images Message-ID: <19990125.054951.-745299.0.mbittner@juno.com> Although it showcases "my" model, I just wanted to show everybody what a digital camera can do for your model pictures. Check out: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3894/ww1_us.html Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 07:22:22 -0500 From: "Steven M. Perry" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Thanks Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990125072222.00687d00@pop.mindspring.com> I want to thank everyone for all the kind words about my models and especially for all the excellent advice on photography and scanning I received. I shall attempt to absorb and apply what I've learned and let y'all know when the results are up on the web. Thanks again sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 07:52:00 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Merlin, was HB W-29 Message-ID: <199901250752_MC2-67E4-FEEC@compuserve.com> Matt, >> Plus I'm sure there will be others chiming in on Merlin's worth building. << I have 5 competed Merlin kits. Halberstadt D.II (Their first kit) DH-5 Fokker D.VIII Pfalz DR.I Junkers J.I I stopped buying Merlin kits after the Rumpler C.III/IV when the price went up and the quality went down. His kits were hit and miss as to quality. One model would be marginal as to quality and the next one would knock your sock off. Finally, to me, they got so bad I stopped buying them. I do have a total of 47 Merlin kits on the shelf. The Junkers J.1 is a very nice kit and I can understand why they called it the Flying Furniture Van. It is one of the kits I want to re-photograph and get on line. A very big and impressive kit. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 05:46:04 +0000 From: Mike Dicianna To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Disposal of Off-Topic Kits Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990125054604.006f86a8@dnc.net> At 05:12 AM 1/25/99 -0500, you wrote: >Mike, > >(SNIP, SNIP, SNIPSNIPSNIP) > >HUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL... > >Dammit, now I've gone and lost my lunch.. What the hell was that foule smell >went through the list just then? > >Shane > >You see now why I am purging my model closet.... > Mikedc "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 05:51:11 +0000 From: Mike Dicianna To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: "New" Images Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990125055111.006efbbc@dnc.net> At 06:47 AM 1/25/99 -0500, you wrote: >Although it showcases "my" model, I just wanted to show everybody what a >digital camera can do for your model pictures. Check out: > >I had almost talked myself out of getting a digital camera due to not having the ability to get these type of detail shots. What kind of digital took these amazing pictures. The resolution and detail are totally acceptable to me. The model is really something special as well!! Mikedc "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:27:00 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Photographing models Message-ID: Having received a digital camera for my 25th wedding anniversary last year, I have come to the conclusion that there is no better way to take model photos than using one of these. I have the Kodak DC260 digital camera. It has a zoom lense, built in automatic flash, and three different resolutions for taking pictures. It also has the advantage of pre-viewing your pictures, and being able to delete those that just don't turn out. On the medium resolution, I can get 20 pictures on the memory card that comes with the camera (14 at the highest). Larger cards, although pricey, are available as are other accessories. Some of the first model photos I have taken with it are on Al's site at: http://pease1.unh.edu/Images/Schwartzkopf/index.html These pictures were taken at the medium resolution. The highest resolution got so close that it showed every little defect and mistake on the Albatros! I also like the depth of field of the photos--I have not been able to get it that even with my 35mm and macro/closeup lenses. The only thing I do not like about the camera is that it consumes a lot of power when the preview LCD is used. However, since you can take pictures using the AC adapter, I can do that in my "studio". Dragging an extension cord at a model contest may be out of the question, so I need more practice without the preview option turned on. Although I have not yet done this, you can take the digital pictures to a processor who has the equipment for Kodak digital processing, and he can create regular photos from the images. Otherwise, they can be saved to disk or CD for computer use--my home printer does not do a real good quality job of printing them out. I have been very happy with the camera, and would recommend it to anyone contemplating a digital camera purchase. This model is usually available in the $800 - $1000 (US) range. BTW, you can also add audio comments to the pictures and then connect it to your TV and run the pictures as a slideshow--now your 1/72 model can have a three foot wingspan on your big-screen TV! Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:15:12 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: Merlin D.H.10 Message-ID: <004201be4875$82d62b80$2e7433cf@Pvosburg> In RE: Merlins that are worth building, I got the "Amiens" that Richard Eaton had up for grabs a few weeks ago, and until I opened the box had never seen a Merlin kit. I thought I was prepared for the quality, thanks to Rich's advance warnings, but when I actually looked at the parts I burst out laughing. My first thought was that my 12-year old could've made better masters out of Sculpey, but as I fiddled around with it I realized that it was like a gauntlet thrown down... "Here, chump! See what you can do with this one!" Even if I never actually get it done, the value I've gotten from simply imagining what I could do with it was worth the money. Maybe we could start another list of "Merlin Kits That Are Worth Fantasizing About Building"... DV ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:46:05 -0700 From: "Satin, Michael N. (SHEP)" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Bob Pearson's site and British Serials Message-ID: <5DA4C4BE65D9D111A6FC0060081FD2189E7191@SNEFFELS> I would like to echo the comments made about Bob Pearson's web site. Excellent! I have seen your work on Internet Modeler, Bob (a great new magazine, though often off-topic I haven't seen an Me --- yet) and your WWI site is really superb. In fact, it has an article with artwork of my favorite Camel, Barker's B6313. Bob, can I copy the article and artwork and print it off for my own use? And what's with that cryptic remark about his Snipe? Did he mount his little red devil in the same place on it? To that end, a question for the list. I have Blue Max's Camel and would really like to do B6313. Does anyone have any great ideas about where I can get small numbers/letters for 1/48 RFC/RNAS/RAF WWI serials? I can probably come up with the rest of the markings myself, but those serials are a bear. If rub down type is recommended, what font and how small? I know, I should probably wait for the Eduard kit (or whoever is now rumored to be doing a Camel) as they will probably have the markings in the box. But hey, I must be a Marine (I do everything the hard way);->. As witness my 1/32 vacuform Triplane and 1/48 BiPlanes Snipe (aaaarrrrrgghhhhh!). Thanks! Hi Ho! Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:23:21 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Merlin D.H.10 Message-ID: <19990125.102623.-792825.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:15:19 -0500 (EST) "David Vosburgh" writes: >Maybe we could start another list of "Merlin Kits That Are Worth Fantasizing About >Building"... Almost all of them? :-) Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1412 **********************