WWI Digest 1411 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: HB W-29 by Dennis Ugulano 2) Re: New Stuff at Hannants WAS New Eduard Stuff by infosilver@czechia.com 3) RE: Photographing models/ was: Slightly better photos by infosilver@czechia.com 4) Re: New Stuff at Hannants WAS New Eduard Stuff by John & Allison Cyganowski 5) RE: HB W-29 by Shane Weier 6) Re: HB W-29 by "Sandy Adam" 7) Disposal of Off-Topic Kits by Mike Dicianna 8) Re: Disposal of Off-Topic Kits by Ernest Thomas 9) Re: Disposal of Off-Topic Kits by "David Vosburgh" 10) Off-topic, off-list by "David Vosburgh" 11) RE: HB W-29 by Shane Weier 12) D-III Wing Tops by "John C Glaser" 13) RE: HB W-29 by John Huggins 14) Re: DH9A by KarrArt@aol.com 15) Re: Modeling Skills by KarrArt@aol.com 16) Re: HB W-29 by Matthew E Bittner 17) Help a lady in need... by Ernest Thomas 18) Re: HB W-29 by Dennis Ugulano 19) RE: HB W-29 by Dennis Ugulano 20) Re: DH9A by Dennis Ugulano 21) Re: HB W-29 by Ernest Thomas 22) Re: Modeling Skills by John & Allison Cyganowski 23) Flashback HB W-29 by "Robert Woodbury" 24) RE: Flashback HB W-29 by Shane Weier 25) Off topic - but flight-related and funny..... by Zulis@aol.com 26) Re: D-III Wing Tops by Bob Pearson 27) Re: DH9A by KarrArt@aol.com 28) Re: HB W-29 by KarrArt@aol.com 29) Re: Modeling Skills by KarrArt@aol.com 30) Re: Off topic - but flight-related and funny..... by Ernest Thomas 31) OFF-TOPIC Curtiss BF2c Hawk by "David R.L. Laws" 32) Re: OFF-TOPIC Curtiss BF2c Hawk by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 33) RE: HB W-29 by "Richard Caudron" 34) Re: OFF-TOPIC Curtiss BF2c Hawk by "Lee J Mensinger" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:19:15 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: HB W-29 Message-ID: <199901241219_MC2-67CA-B196@compuserve.com> Matt, >> Pictures? << Soon, I promise. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 99 21:28:50 -01 From: infosilver@czechia.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Stuff at Hannants WAS New Eduard Stuff Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:01:58 -0500 (EST) Sandy Adam wrote: >> > Arthur ART48D1 1999 Injection 1:48 Aviatik Berg D.1 >> > Arthur ART48ETR 1999 Injection 1:48 Etrich Taube >> > Arthur ART48M5 1999 Injection 1:48 Macchi M-5 flying boat >> Who's 'Arthur' anyway? > >Putting 2 and 2 together, these must be the Hippo kits which Ivan said were >going to be reissued by somebody else. >(But maybe that equals 5?) >Sandy > Exactly. Let me add that Flashback and Arthur are different brand names run by the same person, owner of Czech mail order store Arthur Model Centrum. Ivan Subrt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 99 21:29:50 -01 From: infosilver@czechia.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Photographing models/ was: Slightly better photos Message-ID: On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:26:43 -0500 (EST) mkendix wrote: >Steve: > >I would also like advice on settings for photos. I am completely >at sea in the area of stop points apertures etc. Shane gave me some help >(outside, 400 speed film, +3 lens) but some of the model is well out of >focus. I know it has something to do with exposure time and size of the >aperture. Does anyone have some formulae that I could apply in >"cookbook" fashion? > >Michael > >mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu > For basic information you can try http://www.hyperscale.com/photobg_1.htm although the example given is one of the dreaded jedna-nula-devet (1-0-9) things. Links provided will lead you to more detailed article (I'd particularly recommend not to oversee the part dealing with non-linear time increase in very long exposures, so called Schwarzschild's effect). HTH Ivan Subrt N.B. Saw your pics on Al's page, GREAT. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:25:53 -0500 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Stuff at Hannants WAS New Eduard Stuff Message-ID: <36AB81D1.3032@worldnet.att.net> infosilver@czechia.com wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:01:58 -0500 (EST) Sandy Adam wrote: > >> > Arthur ART48D1 1999 Injection 1:48 Aviatik Berg D.1 > >> > Arthur ART48ETR 1999 Injection 1:48 Etrich Taube > >> > Arthur ART48M5 1999 Injection 1:48 Macchi M-5 flying boat > >> Who's 'Arthur' anyway? > > > >Putting 2 and 2 together, these must be the Hippo kits which Ivan said > were > >going to be reissued by somebody else. > >(But maybe that equals 5?) > >Sandy > > > > Exactly. Let me add that Flashback and Arthur are different brand names > run by the same person, owner of Czech mail order store Arthur Model > Centrum. > > Ivan Subrt Certainly has the right middle name for it! ;-) Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 07:07:05 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: HB W-29 Message-ID: Dennis, > Almost at the same time, we got PEGASUS, I think EDUARD > and then TOKO. I have the PEGASUS kit > but did not build it. I did not buy the EDUARD kit. While Eduard may be about to do a W.29, they haven't yet. You'll be thinking of the MPM kit - mine is pictured on Alans web page, completed about this time last year. Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:35:44 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: HB W-29 Message-ID: <199901242338.XAA28284@beryl.sol.co.uk> > > Almost at the same time, we got PEGASUS, I think EDUARD > > and then TOKO. I have the PEGASUS kit > > but did not build it. I did not buy the EDUARD kit. > While Eduard may be about to do a W.29, they haven't yet. You'll be thinking > of the MPM kit........ I'm sure he is thinking of the Eduard W.29 which was never actually issued by Eduard but passed on to Flashback who (presumably added the resin bits and) released it. I think you also missed one of the better W.29s, Dennis, the Sierra vacform. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 16:37:50 +0000 From: Mike Dicianna To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Disposal of Off-Topic Kits Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990124163750.006e86b8@dnc.net> I've put together a list of off topic items I'm looking to get rid of... Of course, contact me off list, It will remain our little secret.... Still have a Eduard Morane Saulnier Type 1/48th up for grabs.... You know what I like!! Mikedc "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:48:36 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Disposal of Off-Topic Kits Message-ID: <36ABBF64.35E8@bellsouth.net> Mike Dicianna wrote: > > I've put together a list of off topic items I'm looking to get rid of... > > Of course, contact me off list, It will remain our little secret.... > > Still have a Eduard Morane Saulnier Type 1/48th up for grabs.... > You know what I like!! > Mikedc > "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" I'll take the Morane, if it's the parasol. Please? E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:03:17 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Disposal of Off-Topic Kits Message-ID: <000a01be47fe$7ef36c20$2f7433cf@Pvosburg> Hi Mike: If there's anything left I'd like to see the list... Regards, Dave -----Original Message----- From: Mike Dicianna To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Sunday, January 24, 1999 9:12 PM Subject: Disposal of Off-Topic Kits >I've put together a list of off topic items I'm looking to get rid of... > >Of course, contact me off list, It will remain our little secret.... > >Still have a Eduard Morane Saulnier Type 1/48th up for grabs.... >You know what I like!! >Mikedc >"Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:22:08 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: Off-topic, off-list Message-ID: <002301be4801$218cdf00$2f7433cf@Pvosburg> Whoops! Check your address lines, Homer --- so much for "our little secret", huh? DV ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:48:15 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: HB W-29 Message-ID: Sandy says, > > While Eduard may be about to do a W.29, they haven't yet. You'll be > > thinking of the MPM kit........ > > I'm sure he is thinking of the Eduard W.29 which was never > actually issued by Eduard but passed on to Flashback who (presumably added > the resin bits and) released it. > OTOH he *was* talking about the kits that *had* been released, but have it your way Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:06:36 -0600 From: "John C Glaser" To: "WW1 Mail List" Subject: D-III Wing Tops Message-ID: <000101be4807$57010c50$f011820a@johng-home> I've been spending the evening perusing Bob Pearson's profiles for inspiration. I think I'd like to do my Eduard D-III as either Allmenroder's or Brauneck's machine. A question that is not clear from the profiles" What colors / scheme for the wing tops. Bob? TIA - John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:06:38 -0600 From: John Huggins To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: HB W-29 Message-ID: > Sandy says, > >> > While Eduard may be about to do a W.29, they haven't yet. You'll be >> > thinking of the MPM kit........ >> >> I'm sure he is thinking of the Eduard W.29 which was never >> actually issued by Eduard but passed on to Flashback who (presumably added > >> the resin bits and) released it. >> > > OTOH he *was* talking about the kits that *had* been released, but have it > your way > > Shane The last three 1/72 scale kits are Pegasus, MPM & Toko. The Flashback kit is 1/48 as well as the mentioned vac kit. If I am not mistaken, there was a resin kit in 1/72 scale from the Czech Masters line that was probably the master for all three of the 1/72 scale kits. They also have 2 versions of the W-12 (long & short fuselage). John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:23:27 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: DH9A Message-ID: <9b02d25e.36abe3af@aol.com> In a message dated 1/24/99 12:10:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, Suvoroff@aol.com writes: << Today IPMS Seattle had a big model display at the Boeing Museum of Flight, and I got to see the slightly off-topic big DH9A (not really a model, but a work of art) made by John Alcorn, and I met this wonderfully gifted individual too. It severely depresses me that I will never, ever work anywhere near this level and I am considering selling all my kits and taking up stamp collecting. Yours in gloom, James D. Gray >> Hasten away foul gloom! Keep building, keep seeing inspiration where others see only cause for defeat. Another old coot story: I was in a band a loooonnnnggg time ago with this guitar player who let every other band's playing get him down. He'd grumble and get on a "What's the use" kick. All us other guys would see great playing and get fired up to do better ourselves, but not our guitar player. We finally had to kill him.......... Hey- ain't Alcorn an amazing cheery guy? Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:28:38 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Modeling Skills Message-ID: <9ff76fe0.36abe4e6@aol.com> In a message dated 1/24/99 5:56:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, Janah@worldnet.att.net writes: << Pass the tweezers and the magnifying glass. My own modeling skills are not what I would like them to be either. I try to use better models as source of inspiration. ......... Seriously, I think there is always going to be somebody out there better. ...... John Cyg. >> Now looky here dammit.... I saw your work- you took a GLENCOE fuselage and made a piece of beauty! Yep- always somebody else out there makin' me shake my head and say "How'd they do that?" Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:38:09 -0600 From: Matthew E Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: HB W-29 Message-ID: <19990124.213901.-823433.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:06:46 -0500 (EST) John Huggins writes: >They also have 2 versions of the W-12 (long & short >fuselage). Valhalla - associated with Merlin - also does the W-12 long fuselage (I think it's the long fuselage) in 1/72nd. Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:44:59 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: multiple recipients of list Subject: Help a lady in need... Message-ID: <36ABE8BB.577B@bellsouth.net> Looking for a uniform expert. I was contacted today by a lady who's trying to authenticate a uniform of apparent WWI vintage. Her discription is as follows; > The sorta greenish colored uniform is EXTREMELY well made. I believe the > material to be wool and heavy. I have never seen material like this > before. It's the pants that intrigue me. They are shaped like riding > pants, very narrow towards the ankle with many buttons. The collar is a > Naru type. I looked into a site that had a picture of a man in a WWI > uniform and it really looked the same except for the color. There are > stains on the pants that could be blood and small holes which may have > been caused by moths. Hopefully I will be able to find out how to get > the stains out. Sounds like a U.S. Army or maybe even Flying Service Officres uniform. But I'm pretty ignorant about such matters. The blood sounds kind of interesting. Especially if it's an officers uniform. I didn't think those guys did much bleeding. ;) Maybe it's real small stains. If anyone knows and would be willing to help, her name is Mary Halliday and she can be reached at Mary Halliday Thanks. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:49:05 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: HB W-29 Message-ID: <199901242250_MC2-67D8-1D29@compuserve.com> >> I think you also missed one of the better W.29s, Dennis, the Sierra vacform. << Probably have but if I'm not mistaken, the Sierra is 1/48th and I am not up on the 1/48th scale kits. I like Sierra models but have not built any of the 1/72 scale kits yet. That just reminded me. I built the Sierra AEG III in 1/48th a few years back for someone. It was a nice kit. Went together well and looked good. I have photos. Anyone want to see them? Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:49:04 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: HB W-29 Message-ID: <199901242250_MC2-67D8-1D28@compuserve.com> John, >> They also have 2 versions of the W-12 (long & short fuselage). << This is very intersting. I have both the long and short fuselage W-12 by Wings 72. I have built the short version. For a vacuform it is an excellent kit. I will be doing a review of the Wings 72 W-12 and Lohner L seaplane as soon as I get my page up. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:49:05 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: DH9A Message-ID: <199901242250_MC2-67D8-1D2A@compuserve.com> Robert, Robert, >> We finally had to kill him.. << You are a very bad person. We need more like you. :-) Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:50:55 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: HB W-29 Message-ID: <36ABEA1F.C84@bellsouth.net> Dennis Ugulano wrote: > That just reminded me. I built the Sierra AEG III in 1/48th a few > years back for someone. It was a nice kit. Went together well and looked > good. I have photos. Anyone want to see them? Yes! E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:38:24 -0500 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Modeling Skills Message-ID: <36ABE730.31F6@worldnet.att.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > > > Now looky here dammit.... Hey, I am a cheerful inspired guy. Please don't kill me!!! Respectfully, John Cyg. PS. I meant the previous post as a compliment. Awesome! Somehow though, I doubt if I shall ever again read "A Visit From St. Nicholas" without thinking of Jerry Garcia! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:04:42 +0800 From: "Robert Woodbury" To: Subject: Flashback HB W-29 Message-ID: <000801be4817$d611efe0$91107482@robertw-pc-fl.per.clw.csiro.au> Guys, Whilst we're on this topic... Has anyone actually started or finished the Flashback kit? Was there any sort of discussion of the tail and fuselage problems and what course of action one might take to overcome these hassles? My feelings are that it might be easier to scratch build a new early tail. That way you avoid having to redesign the fuselage around the gunners area and having to search for replacement decals (a bit of a problem if you're like me and the spares box isn't too full). Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:17:42 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Flashback HB W-29 Message-ID: Rob, > Has anyone actually started or finished the Flashback kit? Not me. It should get done about, um, lessee, er, 2016. > Was there any sort of discussion of the tail and fuselage problems and what > course of action one might take to overcome these hassles? > Would you care to elaborate on this. I admit I haven't spent hours looking the kit over, but noted the oft repeated observation that the fuselage is too shallow. Given the frequency of this assertion i assume people have been dropping the parts on top of ian Stairs drawings, which may, or may not mean something. But I hadn't heard there was a tail problem. What is it? > My feelings are that it might be easier to scratch build a > new early tail. > That way you avoid having to redesign the fuselage around the > gunners area and having to search for replacement decals (a bit of a > problem if you're like me and the spares box isn't too full). Now I'm thoroughly at a loss. Better get my Datafile out because I wasn't aware the gunners position varied depending on whether it was early or late tail. Please enlighten us - having knocked the MPM kit together a year ago I am still mildly interested in the aircarft but it's about a decade to soon to build another ! Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:23:44 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Off topic - but flight-related and funny..... Message-ID: <671e54f4.36abf1d0@aol.com> It is quiet on the list today. Thought I might be permitted an off-topic post. A friend sent this to me and, despite the first line, I can't possibly believe they are genuine, but very funny in either case. ========================================================== Subject: Aircraft Maintenance These were presented as actual maintenance complaints by Air Force pilots (P for problems) and the maintenance crews' response (S for solution): (P) Left inside main tire almost needs replacement (S) Almost replaced left inside main tire (P) Test flight OK, except autoland very rough (S) Autoland not installed on this aircraft (P) #2 Propeller seeping prop fluid (S) #2 Propeller seepage normal; #s 1, 3, and 4 propellers lack normal seepage (P) Something loose in cockpit (S) Something tightened in cockpit (P) Evidence of leak on right main landing gear (S) Evidence removed (P) DME volume unbelievably loud (S) Volume set to more believable level (P) Dead bugs on windshield (S) Live bugs on order (P) Autopilot in altitude hold mode produces a 200 fpm descent (S) Cannot reproduce problem on ground (P) IFF inoperative (S) IFF always inoperative in OFF mode (P) Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick (S) That's what they're there for (P) Number three engine missing (S) Engine found on right wing after brief search (P) Aircraft handles funny (S) Aircraft warned to straighten up, "fly right," and be serious (P) Target Radar hums (S) Reprogrammed Target Radar with the words ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:17:16 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: D-III Wing Tops Message-ID: <199901250417.UAA03721@spare.rapidnet.net> John, >From the top? But no one looks at profiles from the top .. why would anyone need to know what colours they are :-) Looking at the actual profiles, I have them in Green/Brown for Allmendroder and Green/Mauve for Brauneck . . . however as recent discussion on the list will show they may be Pale Brunswick Green, Olive Green and dark Venetian Red. Guess it is time to branch out to top views . . . . Regards, Bob ---------- > From: "John C Glaser" > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: D-III Wing Tops > Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:07:10 -0500 (EST) > > I've been spending the evening perusing Bob Pearson's profiles for > inspiration. I think I'd like to do my Eduard D-III as either Allmenroder's > or Brauneck's machine. A question that is not clear from the profiles" > What colors / scheme for the wing tops. Bob? TIA > > > - John > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:29:17 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: DH9A Message-ID: <5051ea0.36abf31d@aol.com> In a message dated 1/24/99 7:52:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, Uggies@compuserve.com writes: << Robert, Robert, >> We finally had to kill him.. << You are a very bad person. We need more like you. :-) Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com >> We just did what had to be done! RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:29:16 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: HB W-29 Message-ID: <7eab2ca0.36abf31c@aol.com> In a message dated 1/24/99 7:51:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, Uggies@compuserve.com writes: << I built the Sierra AEG III in 1/48th a few years back for someone. It was a nice kit. Went together well and looked good. I have photos. Anyone want to see them? Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com >> You bet! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:29:19 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Modeling Skills Message-ID: In a message dated 1/24/99 7:57:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, Janah@worldnet.att.net writes: << KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > > > Now looky here dammit.... Hey, I am a cheerful inspired guy. Please don't kill me!!! Respectfully, John Cyg.>> Fear not! I shall not kill anyone tonight! (plus, I wanna see your finished Albatros) <> Kind spooky ain't it? Robert K. who has now glued the Argus engine to the Fokker Spider "fuselage"- two sticks about the size of a rat's femur ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:42:07 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Off topic - but flight-related and funny..... Message-ID: <36ABF61F.4413@bellsouth.net> Zulis@aol.com wrote: > A friend sent this to me and, despite the first line, I can't possibly believe > they are genuine, but very funny in either case. > I agree. Rotfl! E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:27:04 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: OFF-TOPIC Curtiss BF2c Hawk Message-ID: <36AC8D47.1795@webtime.com.au> Hi all A short request Building the Seirra vac of the Hawk and have 1. Squadron book - Curtiss Navy Hawks 2. Wylam Drawings 3. IMPS Houston on-line article Have seen 1. the Official Monogram guide Still really stuck for decent pictures of the cockpit and landing gear arrangements Can any one please help or perhaps direct me to a site with some decent pics ? regards david ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:28:38 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OFF-TOPIC Curtiss BF2c Hawk Message-ID: <199901250528.VAA08692@compass.OregonVOS.net> David writes: >Still really stuck for decent pictures of the cockpit and landing gear >arrangements >Can any one please help or perhaps direct me to a site with some decent >pics ? Well, I've got the old Salamander book "Great Fighter Aircraft" (nifty title that, no?) with the John Weal cut-away drawing of the Hawk III. The landing gear arrangement is shown pretty well - the cockpit interior less so although still, perhaps, useful. If you think that would help, I could pull you a photocopy. Send me your snail mail address if you'd like a copy. The other idea might be to check out the Hasegawa 1/32 scale kit of that bird - if I remember correctly, that kit had fairly decent detailing on both the landing gear and the cockpit interior although, honestly, I never checked either for accuracy. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org Associate Professor of Bisociation Studies Nicholas Bourbaki Institute for the Study of Non-reproducible Phenonmena "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 06:36:56 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: RE: HB W-29 Message-ID: <000001be4824$b872b3e0$4a5f5c8b@PCCE.cim-hardi.be> Same promis for the 1/72 MPM one. Richard Caudron > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Dennis Ugulano > Sent: zondag 24 januari 1999 18:21 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: HB W-29 > > > Matt, > > >> Pictures? << > > Soon, I promise. > > Dennis Ugulano > email: Uggies@compuserve.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:45:21 -0600 From: "Lee J Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OFF-TOPIC Curtiss BF2c Hawk Message-ID: <36AC04F0.865F9ACA@wireweb.net> Way to go Bill. It's what we got. I received reports saying the Hasegawa was not accurate especially in the cockpit. I asked about the L.G. and the Cockpit walls and panel a year or so ago, basically the same info requested here. My response for today is "Why has no one sent me better information if they have evidence the Hase is in error. My main question was re: the cockpit layout.. Nothing has arrived yet. Lee > David writes: > > >Still really stuck for decent pictures of the cockpit and landing gear > >arrangements > > >Can any one please help or perhaps direct me to a site with some decent > >pics ? Bill Shatzer wrote: > Well, I've got the old Salamander book "Great Fighter Aircraft" (nifty > title that, no?) with the John Weal cut-away drawing of the Hawk III. > The landing gear arrangement is shown pretty well - the cockpit > interior less so although still, perhaps, useful. > > If you think that would help, I could pull you a photocopy. > > Send me your snail mail address if you'd like a copy. > > The other idea might be to check out the Hasegawa 1/32 scale > kit of that bird - if I remember correctly, that kit had fairly > decent detailing on both the landing gear and the cockpit interior > although, honestly, I never checked either for accuracy. > > Cheers and all, > > -- > Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org > Associate Professor of Bisociation Studies > Nicholas Bourbaki Institute for the Study of Non-reproducible Phenonmena > "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1411 **********************