WWI Digest 1410

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: 1/48 Bregeut 14 from HiTech?
	by DavidL1217@aol.com
  2) Re: WWI SIDNA
	by Kevin Wenker <kwenker@interaccess.com>
  3) Re: Slightly better photos
	by Rick Milas <rmilas@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
  4) Have you seen this video?
	by Dave Sterner <dandk@mediaone.net>
  5) Re: Have you seen this video?
	by Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
  6) Photo page added
	by Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
  7) Re: Photo page added
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
  8) Curtiss H-8/H-12
	by Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
  9) RE: Photographing models/ was: Slightly better photos
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 10) RE: Photographing models/ was: Slightly better photos
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 11) RE: Slightly better photos
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 12) Re: Curtiss H-8/H-12
	by BStett3770@aol.com
 13) RE: Photographing models/ was: Slightly better photos
	by mkendix <mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu>
 14) Re: Have you seen this video?
	by Dave Sterner <dandk@mediaone.net>
 15) Shane, help me out...
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
 16) Skull Scheme Aircraft (revisited)
	by Mike Dicianna <mikedc@dnc.net>
 17) Re: Skull Scheme Aircraft (revisited)
	by Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
 18) RE: Photographing models/ was: Slightly better photos
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 19) RE: Shane, help me out...
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 20) RE: Shane, help me out...
	by Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
 21) DH9A
	by Suvoroff@aol.com
 22) Portrait pages
	by Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
 23) Re: Shane, help me out...
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
 24) Re: Shane, help me out...
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
 25) Modeling Skills
	by John & Allison Cyganowski <Janah@worldnet.att.net>
 26) Large Scale Lucy
	by John & Allison Cyganowski <Janah@worldnet.att.net>
 27) HB W-29
	by Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
 28) Re: Modeling Skills
	by Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
 29) Re: Photographing models
	by "Lee J Mensinger" <lemen@wireweb.net>
 30) Fancy Italian WWI shema
	by "Richard Caudron" <richard_caudron@ibm.net>
 31) RE: HB W-29
	by "Richard Caudron" <richard_caudron@ibm.net>
 32) Re: HB W-29
	by Matthew E Bittner <mbittner@juno.com>
 33) RE: HB W-29
	by Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:30:56 EST
From: DavidL1217@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: 1/48 Bregeut 14 from HiTech?
Message-ID: <e144fb8a.36aa2370@aol.com>

About 2 years ago, Hi Tech of France was to have issued a 1/48 Bregeut 14B?

To date, it has not materialized.   What happened to it?

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:11:04 -0600
From: Kevin Wenker <kwenker@interaccess.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: WWI SIDNA
Message-ID: <36AA2CD8.2862A793@interaccess.com>

Sure do.

mgoodwin@ricochet.net wrote:

> Kevin Wenker wrote:
>
> > <LOL>.  Yes, I've got a N 17 I could trade.
>
> Do you still live at 9218 Whitehall Ln in Orland Park, IL?
>
> Riordan


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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:21:04 -0600 (CST)
From: Rick Milas <rmilas@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Slightly better photos
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990123141353.25185A-100000@staff1.cso.uiuc.edu>

Steve,
Your photos are incredible, and so are your models! Thanks. I really like
your rigging, and this leads me to a couple of questions. One night when I
was laying in bed, counting rigging lines instead of sheep, it came to me
that I might use model railroad eyebolts to attach the rigging at certain
points. It looks like you have already done this on your SSW DIII. (I
thought I saw an eyebolt coming out of the fuselage over the lower wing
root). Is this so? If so, would one use HO scale or N scale eyebolts for
1:48 aircraft? Thanks
Rick Milas


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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:41:21 -0800
From: Dave Sterner <dandk@mediaone.net>
To: Model <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Have you seen this video?
Message-ID: <36AA33F1.10F7751D@mediaone.net>

Hi All,
         I was paging through the Zenith books winter catalogue and came
across a video titled "Aces: A Story of the First Air War" and was
wondering if it was worth the $20.00 they want for it. Running time is
approx. 93 minutes. The ad says it uses rarely seen archival footage.
Has anyone seen this before?
Thanks,
Dave
P.S. The ad also has the word "color" in the discription....were it
really possible........


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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:19:06 -0800
From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
To: WW1 Mailing list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Have you seen this video?
Message-ID: <199901232119.NAA28394@spare.rapidnet.net>


This is a great film purporting to tell the story of a typical Canadian
pilot from the time he arrives in France and joins the ballon corp. . he
later transfers to the RFC and becomes a PBO before ultimately becomes a
pilot as the war is about toi end. The true value of this film is in the
footage shown . .. the blurb doesn't lie about colour .. except it is a
modern 7/8 size SE5a that is  flown by the grandsom of the pilot concerned
(who also provides narration). This film was shown to rave reviews at the
1994 OTF seminar.


Regards,
         Bob Pearson

Visit my WW1 aviation page at
http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1

Managing Editor / Internet Modeler
http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn/



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> From: Dave Sterner <dandk@mediaone.net>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> Subject: Have you seen this video?
> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:41:33 -0500 (EST)
> 
> Hi All,
>          I was paging through the Zenith books winter catalogue and came
> across a video titled "Aces: A Story of the First Air War" and was
> wondering if it was worth the $20.00 they want for it. Running time is
> approx. 93 minutes. The ad says it uses rarely seen archival footage.
> Has anyone seen this before?
> Thanks,
> Dave
> P.S. The ad also has the word "color" in the discription....were it
> really possible........


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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:22:33 -0800
From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
To: WW1 Mailing list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>, Avisoc@coollist.com
Subject: Photo page added
Message-ID: <199901232122.NAA28412@spare.rapidnet.net>


Greetings all,

I have just added a page with some of my photo collection to my site .. . 


Regards,
         Bob Pearson

Visit my WW1 aviation page at
http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1

Managing Editor / Internet Modeler
http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn/

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:58:46 -0600
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Photo page added
Message-ID: <36AA4616.20BB@bellsouth.net>

Bob Pearson wrote:
> 
> Greetings all,
> 
> I have just added a page with some of my photo collection to my site 

neat!

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:52:49 -0800
From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
To: WW1 Mailing list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Curtiss H-8/H-12
Message-ID: <199901232252.OAA28908@spare.rapidnet.net>


Greetings all,

Does anyone know if either the H-8 or H-12 have been released as vacforms at
any time?


Regards,
         Bob Pearson


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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 09:04:31 +1000
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Photographing models/ was: Slightly better photos
Message-ID: <A1654E835D0CD111B0730060B06865CDA9F4DB@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

David,


> Not being a complete photo afficionado but having some experience, my
> first question is are you using a cmera fillted with a Macro-capable
> lens - lots of folks try to make a standard SLR lens do too 
> much and you just cann't get up close using a standard lens without the
image
> blurring 

This is true.

- if you want the detail a macro is essential 

This is not. I think that the photos I took of my Biff are quite okay, yet
they were taken with my wifes camera using a 70mm lens without macro
facilities. However, I *did* add an external +3 closeup lens - cost about $5
twenty years ago. Then with the camera on a *heavy* tripod and the model on
a piece of card taped to a picnic table against my garage door, I took my
shots at =<f.22 and about 1/8 second, trusting the auto exposure, and using
natural sky light - NOT direct sunlight BTW. You must use a cable release
too, or however careful you are the camera shake will ruin things.

About 25 years ago I spent a couple of years at Uni learning about
photography, yet all my expensive sophisticated gear sits in boxes
untouched. Taking model photos doesn't need to be rocket science.

- the good news
> is that several of the newer digital cameras go up REALLY close to
> distances of a couple of centimetres
> 
Have just bought a Nikon CoolPix 900 which has the capacity to take extreme
close up shots but no threaded shutter button. Consequently you either use
flash or get shake. Frankly, aside from crappier quality than proper film,
it's still harder to use - but I love to play with it ! (and am very pleased
my boss paid for it for "work purposes")

> Fast film ( if your'e using that medium ) and ( whatever your 
> using ! ) really good lighting is essential

True. Daylight is really good, though in some places this may be less true
than Brisbane !


Shane

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 09:07:08 +1000
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Photographing models/ was: Slightly better photos
Message-ID: <A1654E835D0CD111B0730060B06865CDA9F4DC@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

EtH,


> Shane Weier wrote:
> > You want to close it down to f.22 or smaller, and let the 
> camera use as long
> > an exposure as it needs. Of course, using ASA400 film it 
> may well have to
> > use 1/8 or 1/4 second, so a tripod is mandatory and a cable 
> release  *highly
> > desirable*
> 
> Mike,
> This is pretty much how I do it too, only I use 100 asa(less 
> grain) and
> I set it all up in the shade(like under the carport or something) so I
> get fewer hard shadows. I'll also try and use pieces of white 
> cardboard
> as reflectors so the undersides aren't too dark. 
> Using a +3 filter requires setting the aperature all the way down to
> f22. It's the only way to get everything in focus.
> I've had exposure times as long as 1/2 a second or more. As 
> for a cable
> release, I don't have one. But my camera does have a timer(so the
> photographer can run around and get in the picture) so it's 
> no problem.
> fwiw, I wasted more than a few rolls of film before I settled on this
> approach.

ROTFL.  This is exactly my approach, right down to using the shade of the
garage.

Great minds etc.

Shane

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 09:37:10 +1000
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Slightly better photos
Message-ID: <A1654E835D0CD111B0730060B06865CDA9F4DE@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

Steve


> My ongoing quest for good photos is still ongoing, but 
> marginal progress has been made. 

NICE photos, very nice models. Keep on posting, nothing makes my day more
than seeing another modellers efforts, especially someone I *know* from the
list

Shane

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 19:01:33 EST
From: BStett3770@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Curtiss H-8/H-12
Message-ID: <280ab520.36aa62dd@aol.com>

Hi Bob

Not that I know of.

Keep Modeling
Barry
Rosemont Hobby
www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 19:27:45 -0500 (EST)
From: mkendix <mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: RE: Photographing models/ was: Slightly better photos
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.990123192620.19290B-100000@worthen>

Shane:

You mention "cable release", which I assume is a small electric cable 
attached to the camera with a switch, so the camera doesn't move?  
Wouldn't a delayed photo, set for say 5 seconds, have the same effect?

Michael


mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu

On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Shane Weier wrote:

> David,
> 
> 
> > Not being a complete photo afficionado but having some experience, my
> > first question is are you using a cmera fillted with a Macro-capable
> > lens - lots of folks try to make a standard SLR lens do too 
> > much and you just cann't get up close using a standard lens without the
> image
> > blurring 
> 
> This is true.
> 
> - if you want the detail a macro is essential 
> 
> This is not. I think that the photos I took of my Biff are quite okay, yet
> they were taken with my wifes camera using a 70mm lens without macro
> facilities. However, I *did* add an external +3 closeup lens - cost about $5
> twenty years ago. Then with the camera on a *heavy* tripod and the model on
> a piece of card taped to a picnic table against my garage door, I took my
> shots at =<f.22 and about 1/8 second, trusting the auto exposure, and using
> natural sky light - NOT direct sunlight BTW. You must use a cable release
> too, or however careful you are the camera shake will ruin things.
> 
> About 25 years ago I spent a couple of years at Uni learning about
> photography, yet all my expensive sophisticated gear sits in boxes
> untouched. Taking model photos doesn't need to be rocket science.
> 
> - the good news
> > is that several of the newer digital cameras go up REALLY close to
> > distances of a couple of centimetres
> > 
> Have just bought a Nikon CoolPix 900 which has the capacity to take extreme
> close up shots but no threaded shutter button. Consequently you either use
> flash or get shake. Frankly, aside from crappier quality than proper film,
> it's still harder to use - but I love to play with it ! (and am very pleased
> my boss paid for it for "work purposes")
> 
> > Fast film ( if your'e using that medium ) and ( whatever your 
> > using ! ) really good lighting is essential
> 
> True. Daylight is really good, though in some places this may be less true
> than Brisbane !
> 
> 
> Shane
> 

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 18:00:13 -0800
From: Dave Sterner <dandk@mediaone.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Have you seen this video?
Message-ID: <36AA7EAD.6D7D7099@mediaone.net>

Hi Bob,
       Thanks for the review. Can you recommend any other available videos
that have a high content of original footage?
  BTW you truly have the best WWI aviation page on the web....I've enjoyed it
many times already.
Thanks again,
Dave

Bob Pearson wrote:

> This is a great film purporting to tell the story of a typical Canadian
> pilot from the time he arrives in France and joins the ballon corp. . he
> later transfers to the RFC and becomes a PBO before ultimately becomes a
> pilot as the war is about toi end. The true value of this film is in the
> footage shown . .. the blurb doesn't lie about colour .. except it is a
> modern 7/8 size SE5a that is  flown by the grandsom of the pilot concerned
> (who also provides narration). This film was shown to rave reviews at the
> 1994 OTF seminar.
>
> Regards,
>          Bob Pearson
>
> Visit my WW1 aviation page at
> http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1
>
> Managing Editor / Internet Modeler
> http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn/
>
> ----------
> > From: Dave Sterner <dandk@mediaone.net>
> > To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> > Subject: Have you seen this video?
> > Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:41:33 -0500 (EST)
> >
> > Hi All,
> >          I was paging through the Zenith books winter catalogue and came
> > across a video titled "Aces: A Story of the First Air War" and was
> > wondering if it was worth the $20.00 they want for it. Running time is
> > approx. 93 minutes. The ad says it uses rarely seen archival footage.
> > Has anyone seen this before?
> > Thanks,
> > Dave
> > P.S. The ad also has the word "color" in the discription....were it
> > really possible........


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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:01:27 -0600
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Shane, help me out...
Message-ID: <36AA8D07.25FD@bellsouth.net>

Shane Weier wrote:

> ROTFL.  This is exactly my approach, right down to using the shade of the
> garage.

Shane,
So maybe you can help settle and argument I'm having with the Missus.
Isn't it tradition for wives to give their husbands plastic model kits
on Australia Day? She refuses to to listen to reason. :)
EtH

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:35:52 +0000
From: Mike Dicianna <mikedc@dnc.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Skull Scheme Aircraft (revisited)
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990123223552.006866ac@dnc.net>

Was spending some time on the ole' couch with the Hitkit Albatros D.III (offag)
ser.53/153 kit.  It has decals of Brumowski's red w/"sworls" scheme.  I'll
put my name in the ring for this one on our list Skull and Crossbones theme.

This hitkit is not as bad as I thought upon closer examination.  Although many
small parts (engine, struts & interior) will need replacing.  the overall 
kit is really kind of nice...Thin trailing edges, actually some crisp detail
on the fuselage (under the flash..) separate tail control surfaces.... 

Don't have much info on Brumowski.  Kind of slim on Austro Hungarian research
material in general.  Would this polish Albatros book everyone has been talking
about have much on this aircraft?  The Red scheme with the mustard yellow sworl
pattern (provided as a decal) does have some interest for me....

Do we have any experts out there?????
Mikedc
"Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer"


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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:33:18 -0800
From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
To: WW1 Mailing list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Skull Scheme Aircraft (revisited)
Message-ID: <199901240633.WAA31120@spare.rapidnet.net>


Mike,

The marking option you are interested in is included as one of the profiles
in the JaPo Albatros book  .. and the book will be of immense help to you in
detailing the aircraft as well as it contains numerous photos and drawings

Bob


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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:47:55 +1000
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Photographing models/ was: Slightly better photos
Message-ID: <A1654E835D0CD111B0730060B06865CDA9F4E0@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

Michael asks,

> You mention "cable release", which I assume is a small electric cable 
> attached to the camera with a switch, so the camera doesn't move?  
> Wouldn't a delayed photo, set for say 5 seconds, have the same effect?
>

Actually usually a mechanical cable not unlike the flexible Bowden cables
used to fire ya Vickers! They have a threaded end which screws into the
shutter button or some nearby point on the camera

Using the self timer is a perfectly adequate substitute since you don't
really need to accurately choose when to shoot with a model which isn't
going anywhere anyway.

Shane

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:49:35 +1000
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Shane, help me out...
Message-ID: <A1654E835D0CD111B0730060B06865CDA9F4E1@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

Ernest,

> > ROTFL.  This is exactly my approach, right down to using 
> the shade of the
> > garage.
> 
> Shane,
> So maybe you can help settle and argument I'm having with the Missus.
> Isn't it tradition for wives to give their husbands plastic model kits
> on Australia Day? She refuses to to listen to reason. :)

Dream on !

Megan McGregor Weier

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:55:10 +1000
From: Shane Weier <sdw@qld.mim.com.au>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Shane, help me out...
Message-ID: <A1654E835D0CD111B0730060B06865CDA9F4E2@mimhexch.mim.com.au>

Ernest,


> > ROTFL.  This is exactly my approach, right down to using 
> the shade of the
> > garage.
> 
> Shane,
> So maybe you can help settle and argument I'm having with the Missus.
> Isn't it tradition for wives to give their husbands plastic model kits
> on Australia Day? She refuses to to listen to reason. :)

Sorry about that.  Megan got to the mail before I did; a danger with reading
my email at home on Sunday afternoon.

Of *course* it's traditional. I've been telling her that for 17 years now.
And what would she know about Australian traditions anyway, she's only been
an Aussie for 8 years.

Since Tuesday *is* Australia Day, and therefore a public holiday, we will be
going to fellow list member Graham Steels place for the traditional poolside
barbeque and excessive alcohol consumption with a side order of WW1
modelling discussion. I'm sure Graham (a Pom) will agree with me that this
is a tradition we can only forgo at risk of our national identity ;-)

Shane

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 03:05:24 EST
From: Suvoroff@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: DH9A
Message-ID: <90b15b46.36aad444@aol.com>

     Today IPMS Seattle had a big model display at the Boeing Museum of
Flight, and I got to see the slightly off-topic big DH9A (not really a model,
but a work of art) made by John Alcorn, and I met this wonderfully gifted
individual too.  It severely depresses me that I will never, ever work
anywhere near this level and I am considering selling all my kits and taking
up stamp collecting.  

Yours in gloom,
James D. Gray

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 01:21:27 -0800
From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
To: WW1 Mailing list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>, Avisoc@coollist.com
Subject: Portrait pages
Message-ID: <199901240921.BAA31629@spare.rapidnet.net>


Greetings all,

I have been playing with thumbnails today and now have them set up for my
pen&Ink illustrations of WW1 aviation personalities . . for now though I
think 200+ profiles are a bit many to do thumbs for ! !!

For those who get these messages twice. . sorry about that, but not everyone
is on just the one list

Regards,
         Bob Pearson

Visit my WW1 aviation page at
http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1

Managing Editor / Internet Modeler
http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn/

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 03:59:12 -0600
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Shane, help me out...
Message-ID: <36AAEEF0.5792@bellsouth.net>

Megan McGregor Weier cold heartedly wrote:
> 
> Ernest,
 
> Dream on !
> 
> Megan McGregor Weier

Awe c'mon, Meg, Be a sport! I'm gonna be giving her a nice gift to
celebrate the occassion. The gift that keeps giving; Lingerie.
E.

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 03:59:30 -0600
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Shane, help me out...
Message-ID: <36AAEF02.4472@bellsouth.net>

Shane Weier wrote:
> Sorry about that.  Megan got to the mail before I did; a danger with reading
> my email at home on Sunday afternoon.
>

Doesn't Allan have a policy regarding unauthorized use of the list by
spouses?
If not, maybe it's time he did!

:)
E.

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 08:36:53 -0500
From: John & Allison Cyganowski <Janah@worldnet.att.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Modeling Skills
Message-ID: <36AB21F5.1CF9@worldnet.att.net>

Pass the tweezers and the magnifying glass.  My own modeling skills are
not what I would like them to be either. I try to use better models as
source of inspiration.  When I visited Robert Karr, I think I O.D.'d on
inspiration!  Seriously, I think there is always going to be somebody
out there better. I build to please myself, and I borrow things from
others that I think I might be able to pull off.

John Cyg.

Ps. 

This years winner in the rigged catagory of IPMS Granite State was a
Glencoe Pfalz D.III.  The exhaust was on backwards.  Now that is one
mistake that I would not make! :-)

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 09:03:22 -0500
From: John & Allison Cyganowski <Janah@worldnet.att.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Large Scale Lucy
Message-ID: <36AB282A.4919@worldnet.att.net>

Wasn't there someone looking for a large scale Lusitainia Kit?
Contact me off list if you are still looking.

John Cyg.

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 09:26:32 -0500
From: Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: HB W-29
Message-ID: <199901240926_MC2-67CA-A66F@compuserve.com>

Everyone:

        The TOKO HB W-29 is complete and here is my impression of it.

        A little history of the model.  It was first released about 1984 by
VEEDAY and at best it was crude but it was a beginning.  The next release
was MIEKRAFT.  It was better but had so much flash that hours of clean up
would have been necessary before it could be built.  Almost at the same
time, we got PEGASUS, I think EDUARD and then TOKO.  I have the PEGASUS kit
but did not build it. I did not buy the EDUARD kit.

        Now to the kit.  The kit has almost no flash, is clean and well
molded.  The instruction sheet is clear for the most part.  There are
decals for four aircraft, including post war.

        The only problem I encountered was the struts for the floats.  It
seemed so innocent but I had nothing but fit problems.  The instructions do
not clearly show the location of the main strut and if you put it in its
logical location, the struts do not reach the wing locating holes.  I
suspect that the main wing struts are a tad too short. Be careful in this
area.

        Other than that, the kit falls together.  I used AMERICAL naval
decals and made a decal for Christensen's # 2512.  The gray is Floquil
Israeli Grey with some Violet added.  I will try and get a photo on line as
soon as possible.  I am pleased with the results.

Dennis Ugulano
email:  Uggies@compuserve.com

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 09:26:31 -0500
From: Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Modeling Skills
Message-ID: <199901240926_MC2-67CA-A66E@compuserve.com>

John,

>> I think there is always going to be somebody
out there better. I build to please myself, and I borrow things from
others that I think I might be able to pull off. <<

        People build at different levels.  For some, detailing every minute
part of the model is what does it for them.  Others build at a lower level.
 The key is to be happy with what you do.  I've always built for myself and
I have a level that I'm happy with.

        But, the reason I'm here with this group is exactly for what you
stated.  I borrow things that I think I can pull off.  We all learn from
each other and I think that's why we group together.  We share ideas, show
off our models, and learn.  What we take home and incorporate into our
building increases our skill.  They may never reach the level of others but
our models do get better.  

        In just the short time I've been with people of like interests, my
modelling has improved.  I have picked up little bits and pieces reading
the posts.  Since I want to put photos of my models on line eventually, I
want them to look a little better.  But they can be a little off and that
does not bother me.  I have fun building and that's what I encourage others
to do.

Dennis Ugulano
email:  Uggies@compuserve.com

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 08:49:35 -0600
From: "Lee J Mensinger" <lemen@wireweb.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Photographing models
Message-ID: <36AB32FF.6B928EFF@wireweb.net>

To all photo Pholks,

Many of the modern cameras no longer have the "screw in mechanical devices"
and they have been replaced by an absurdly expensive piece of wire that plugs
into the camera onto about 4 pins.  For Nikon they are close to  (U.S.)
$85.00.  For those with a self timer , that would be a much less expensive
approach.   Lee

Shane Weier wrote:

> Michael asks,
>
> > You mention "cable release", which I assume is a small electric cable
> > attached to the camera with a switch, so the camera doesn't move?
> > Wouldn't a delayed photo, set for say 5 seconds, have the same effect?
> >
>
> Actually usually a mechanical cable not unlike the flexible Bowden cables
> used to fire ya Vickers! They have a threaded end which screws into the
> shutter button or some nearby point on the camera
>
> Using the self timer is a perfectly adequate substitute since you don't
> really need to accurately choose when to shoot with a model which isn't
> going anywhere anyway.
>
> Shane


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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:14:25 +0100
From: "Richard Caudron" <richard_caudron@ibm.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Fancy Italian WWI shema
Message-ID: <000001be47b4$9d66d4c0$ea305c8b@PCCE.cim-hardi.be>

I am now building the small WWI Caproni-Pensuti Triplane from Roseplane on
1/72 scale. Wonderfull small kit. If you can not buy it, stole it, but do
not miss it.
Like I do with all my prototypes (Dufaux fighter, DWH Floh ...), I would
like to paint it like as it had flew in operations during WWI.
Do anybody know a particulary fancy Italian WWI shema which can be painted
or found in decals ?
No, Bob, I did not check on your (incredible) web site, but I do it
immediately.
Regards,
Richard Caudron


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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:24:46 +0100
From: "Richard Caudron" <richard_caudron@ibm.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: HB W-29
Message-ID: <000101be47b6$0e97c540$ea305c8b@PCCE.cim-hardi.be>

It is not Eduard who produced the W29, but MPM. I did built it, and it is
great. Not easy, but great. I had a look on the Toko, and it is clear for me
that the Toko is better, maybe beside the lozenge decals. On the MPM, I
replace all the gunnery by Aeroclub and the engine by Paragon.
This is not needed with the Toko.
But, in anyway, the result is a wonderfull WWI airplane.
We want more, more and more of that kind of kit.
And last but not least, this airplane was based in Oostende, Belgium. Great
...
Regards,
Richard Caudron


> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of
> Dennis Ugulano
> Sent: zondag 24 januari 1999 15:27
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: HB W-29
>
>
> Everyone:
>
>         The TOKO HB W-29 is complete and here is my impression of it.
>
>         A little history of the model.  It was first released
> about 1984 by
> VEEDAY and at best it was crude but it was a beginning.  The next release
> was MIEKRAFT.  It was better but had so much flash that hours of clean up
> would have been necessary before it could be built.  Almost at the same
> time, we got PEGASUS, I think EDUARD and then TOKO.  I have the
> PEGASUS kit
> but did not build it. I did not buy the EDUARD kit.
>
>         Now to the kit.  The kit has almost no flash, is clean and well
> molded.  The instruction sheet is clear for the most part.  There are
> decals for four aircraft, including post war.
>
>         The only problem I encountered was the struts for the floats.  It
> seemed so innocent but I had nothing but fit problems.  The
> instructions do
> not clearly show the location of the main strut and if you put it in its
> logical location, the struts do not reach the wing locating holes.  I
> suspect that the main wing struts are a tad too short. Be careful in this
> area.
>
>         Other than that, the kit falls together.  I used AMERICAL naval
> decals and made a decal for Christensen's # 2512.  The gray is Floquil
> Israeli Grey with some Violet added.  I will try and get a photo
> on line as
> soon as possible.  I am pleased with the results.
>
> Dennis Ugulano
> email:  Uggies@compuserve.com
>


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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 10:20:59 -0600
From: Matthew E Bittner <mbittner@juno.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: HB W-29
Message-ID: <19990124.103618.-917321.0.mbittner@juno.com>

On Sun, 24 Jan 1999 09:27:20 -0500 (EST) Dennis Ugulano
<Uggies@compuserve.com> writes:

>        The TOKO HB W-29 is complete and here is my impression of it.

Pictures?


Matt Bittner

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:19:14 -0500
From: Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: HB W-29
Message-ID: <199901241219_MC2-67CA-B195@compuserve.com>

Richard,

>> It is not Eduard who produced the W29, but MPM. <<

        Thanks for the correction.  I knew it was made by someone over in
that part of the world.  But having never seen the kit, I couldn't comment
and couldn't remember who did it.

>> We want more, more and more of that kind of kit. <<

A thousand yes I agree.   Unlike glue, more in this case is better.

Dennis Ugulano
email:  Uggies@compuserve.com

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