WWI Digest 1408

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) rubber bullets
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
  2) Re: rubber bullets
	by "Charles or Linda Duckworth" <cnlduckwor@ninenet.com>
  3) Re: rubber bullets
	by KarrArt@aol.com
  4) On again......off again
	by "Charles or Linda Duckworth" <cnlduckwor@ninenet.com>
  5) Re: Hanriot Photo
	by lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy)
  6) Re: rubber bullets
	by "PAUL GABERT" <gabertp@cpis.net>
  7) Re: The return of my site
	by KarrArt@aol.com
  8) Re: On again......off again
	by "sharon Henderson" <sharon@sword.net>
  9) Baumer Debate WAS Re: Baumer...
	by "David Vosburgh" <dave@vga-graphics.com>
 10) Re: rubber bullets
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
 11) Re: MvR theories
	by "Bill Ciciora" <wpc@wwa.com>
 12) Re: Cat theme
	by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer)
 13) Re: rubber bullets
	by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer)
 14) Re: MvR theories
	by Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
 15) Re: Baumer Debate WAS Re: Baumer...
	by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer)
 16) Re: Baumer Debate WAS Re: Baumer...
	by Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
 17) Re: rubber bullets
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
 18) Re: WWI SIDNA
	by mgoodwin@ricochet.net
 19) Re: rubber bullets
	by Modelhound@aol.com
 20) 'Blast from the Past'
	by Graham Nash <graham.nash@citicorp.com>
 21) Re: Cat theme
	by "Sandy Adam" <cbbs@almac.co.uk>
 22) Re: rubber bullets
	by "Charles or Linda Duckworth" <cnlduckwor@ninenet.com>
 23) Re: rubber bullets
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
 24) Re: rubber bullets
	by Mike Dicianna <mikedc@dnc.net>
 25) Re: rubber bullets
	by Allan Wright <aew>
 26) Re: The return of my site
	by Rick Milas <rmilas@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
 27) Re: WWI SIDNA
	by Kevin Wenker <kwenker@interaccess.com>
 28) Update
	by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com>
 29) Apology for "off-topic" post
	by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com>
 30) Apology Update
	by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com>
 31) Re: Apology for "off-topic" post
	by KarrArt@aol.com
 32) Toko Nie. 11 update
	by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com>
 33) Re: The return of my site
	by Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
 34) Re: Toko Nie. 11 update
	by Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:16:26 -0600
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: rubber bullets
Message-ID: <36A7D16A.2C11@bellsouth.net>

Howdy Folks,

I've been playin around with the Williams Bros Vickers gun model. 
It has an ammo belt made out of rubber. The belt has has some flash and
other little things that need to be trimed. But when I try to remove the
flash with an x-acto, the blade just pushes it out of the way. Seems
that files or sand paper would just ruin it. Anybody have any experience
trimming flash off of rubber? SOFT rubber.
Or does anybody have an alternative solution? Can anybody tell me how
big a 1/72 or 1/76 shell for a tank or big gun might be? And are such
things available in the aftermarket? 
E.

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:56:52 -0600
From: "Charles or Linda Duckworth" <cnlduckwor@ninenet.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: rubber bullets
Message-ID: <199901220150.TAA02253@mail.primary.net>

You may want to try a new single edged razor blade. 

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> From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> Subject: rubber bullets
> Date: Thursday, January 21, 1999 7:18 PM
> 
> Howdy Folks,
> 
> I've been playin around with the Williams Bros Vickers gun model. 
> It has an ammo belt made out of rubber. The belt has has some flash and
> other little things that need to be trimed. But when I try to remove the
> flash with an x-acto, the blade just pushes it out of the way. Seems
> that files or sand paper would just ruin it. Anybody have any experience
> trimming flash off of rubber? SOFT rubber.
> Or does anybody have an alternative solution? Can anybody tell me how
> big a 1/72 or 1/76 shell for a tank or big gun might be? And are such
> things available in the aftermarket? 
> E.

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 20:51:52 EST
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: rubber bullets
Message-ID: <cda046ec.36a7d9b8@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/21/99 5:20:04 PM Pacific Standard Time,
ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes:

<< I've been playin around with the Williams Bros Vickers gun model. 
 It has an ammo belt made out of rubber. The belt has has some flash and
 other little things that need to be trimed. But when I try to remove the
 flash with an x-acto, the blade just pushes it out of the way. Seems
 that files or sand paper would just ruin it. Anybody have any experience
 trimming flash off of rubber? SOFT rubber.
 Or does anybody have an alternative solution? Can anybody tell me how
 big a 1/72 or 1/76 shell for a tank or big gun might be? And are such
 things available in the aftermarket? 
 E. >>

I think I might look for a substitute, but, if you wanna try using the kit's
rubber, about the only thing I've ever found that would sometimes slice cleany
is a brand new old fashioned single edged razor blade- but they don't seem to
be a sharp as they used to be!
Robert K.

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 20:04:57 -0600
From: "Charles or Linda Duckworth" <cnlduckwor@ninenet.com>
To: "ww1list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: On again......off again
Message-ID: <199901220158.TAA05298@mail.primary.net>

It seems on the 18th I was knocked off the list and have been out of town
on business (southern Louisiana GREAT eating except crawfish was out of
season). So if anyone was trying to contact me via the postings I'm
re-subscribed.    

btw St. Louis Jasta is meeting tomorrow evening same time same location.   
   

Charlie

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 02:49:37 GMT
From: lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy)
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Hanriot Photo
Message-ID: <36a7e6f7.2952197@legend.firstsaga.com>

On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:43:29 -0500 (EST), you wrote:

>Well, I took a huge breath and looked up the Hanriot on the Eduard web
>site. They have the box art done., so maybe it really will be out soon!
>Check out the photo :www.eduard.cz
>
I think you'll find that Barry at Rosemont Hobbies is expecting them
in a couple of more days. 

Len


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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:31:16 -0500
From: "PAUL GABERT" <gabertp@cpis.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: rubber bullets
Message-ID: <199901220256.VAA24044@cplus.cpis.net>

Ernest wrote:


. Anybody have any experience
> trimming flash off of rubber? SOFT rubber.
> Or does anybody have an alternative solution? > E.

You could try a hotknife but that would be very delicate and you could
easily ruin the belt and bullets.   Alternately you could let it chill in
your freezer and cut it when its' first taken out.  You could also make a
resin casting of it and that would be infinitely better to work with and
would paint easier.

Paul G.

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:58:27 EST
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: The return of my site
Message-ID: <2533095e.36a7e953@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/21/99 3:03:11 AM Pacific Standard Time,
bpearson@kaien.com writes:
 <<Greetings all,
 .......... my site is now at    
 
 http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1
 
 Be sure to check the What's New page in the next few days as I attempt to
 fill my 11MB of webspace. 
 
 Regards,
          Bob Pearson
 
 Visit my WW1 aviation page at
 http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1
 
 Managing Editor / Internet Modeler
 http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn/       >>

Whew! Good to see your site back up and humming!
Robert K.
 
 

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:27:37 -0500
From: "sharon Henderson" <sharon@sword.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: On again......off again
Message-ID: <9901212227.AA37440@ft.sumter>

Hi Charlie,

Glad to have you back!

> btw St. Louis Jasta is meeting tomorrow evening same time same 
> location.

Which reminds me: do any of the people local to the Washington, DC Co-
Prosperity Sphere (MD, VA, DC....) have any great desire to start getting 
together?  I'd be happy to act as Staffelfu"hrer and maintain the contact 
list!  :-)

Sharon von Henderson,
Jasta 495
(Heck, it's the Capitol Beltway.... :-)



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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:41:53 -0500
From: "David Vosburgh" <dave@vga-graphics.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Baumer Debate WAS Re: Baumer...
Message-ID: <016c01be45b9$2893e540$2b7433cf@Pvosburg>

Thank you for all the responses to my initial request for input on Baumer's
D.V. I got some very considered opinions, which is what I was looking for.
Of course nobody will be able to answer the question with certainty until
some whiz-bang perfects a program which will ID colors from the grey tones
in B&W photos --- which as I recall someone was actually working on. Either
that or the day when the Time Machine becomes available, one or the other.

I've been curious about the red used on the German a/c as well. Judging from
the photos of (for example) MvR's D.III or all-red 425/17, or Almenroder's
D.III, the red applied seemed to roughly equivalent to a couple of coats of
AeroGloss colored dope... the crosses were still clearly visible underneath.
In those instances I'd have to guess that it was dope or some sort of
mildly-pigmented varnish rather than actual paint.

Also I recall reading that red pigment was scarce in wartime Germany, which
is why it was the mark of an ace to have a lot of red on your a/c.
Interesting theory and it seems sensible enough, but does anyone know if
there was any truth to it?

D.V.

-----Original Message-----
From: KarrArt@aol.com <KarrArt@aol.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Date: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: Baumer Albatros

<<snip>>
>This brings me 'round to something I've been curious about for long time-
the
>nature of markings paint. I don't know what paint-dope-varnish was
officially
>issued to field units, nor do I know what may have available "in town".
German
>use of red- did some mechanic bicycle into the nearest village and buy a
pint
>(liter?) of some red barn paint? <<spip>>
>Robert K.



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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:55:57 -0600
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: rubber bullets
Message-ID: <36A7F6CC.7DE7@bellsouth.net>

Thanks Robert and Charlie, but is a single edge razor blade really any
sharper than a new x-acto blade? btw, I also tried it with a new scalpel
blade, to no avail. 
The freeze aproach that Paul mentioned sounds like it's at least worth a
try. Then I guess it's time to find something else, or leave the old
Vickers unloaded. 
E.
And Charlie, you come to South LA and don't even give a holler? sheesh!
Next time I'm going through MO, I'll remember not to look you up.  :)

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:59:04 -0600
From: "Bill Ciciora" <wpc@wwa.com>
To: "WWI Model List" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: MvR theories
Message-ID: <199901220359.VAA06065@kajiki.wwa.com>

Bob quotes:

>> " . . . The battle would soon be joined but while still well out of
range, he suddenly received a stunning hammer-like blow to the head. Von
Richthofen recalled hearing Kurt Wolff's guns firing (Wollf, indeed, had
raced into the fray ahead of his leader), <<

Does Ferko give a footnote as to where this supposed recall is documented?
The Ulanoff translation of Richthofen's autobio makes no mention of it,
only that "Wolff flew beneath me." (p.107). One of Wolff's bullets would
have had to make more turns than Oswald's magic bullet. I have a tough time
believing that *any pilot* in the most successful, disciplined Jasta in
Flanders would open fire at extreme range. Wolff had 31 confirmed at the
time (Above the Lines, p.233). He didn't get that successful by spraying
random shots hoping to hit someone.

Not completely closed to the idea, but a lucky shot by Woodbridge makes
more sense and is more likely.


Bill Ciciora

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 20:04:21 -0800 (PST)
From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer)
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Cat theme
Message-ID: <199901220404.UAA22175@compass.OregonVOS.net>



Sandy writes:

>> That would be 87a Squadriglia - SVA.5s.  Still, not a "real" lion
>> but rather the Lion of St. Mark - a kinda sphinx-like creature
>> with the body of a lion but the head of a man and the wings of
>> an eagle.

>Head of a MAN? 
>Where did you get this from?
>The St Mark's lion has a LION's head.

Yeah, on closer inspection, yer right.

But it -is- a pretty dopey-looking lion's head, no?

:-)

Cheers and all,


--
                    Bill Shatzer   - bshatzer@orednet.org
                   Associate Professor of Bisociation Studies
   Nicholas Bourbaki Institute for the Study of Non-reproducible Phenonmena
                        "Cave ab homine unius librum."

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 20:21:20 -0800 (PST)
From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer)
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: rubber bullets
Message-ID: <199901220421.UAA00521@compass.OregonVOS.net>





>Howdy Folks,

>I've been playin around with the Williams Bros Vickers gun model. 
>It has an ammo belt made out of rubber. The belt has has some flash and
>other little things that need to be trimed. But when I try to remove the
>flash with an x-acto, the blade just pushes it out of the way. Seems
>that files or sand paper would just ruin it. Anybody have any experience
>trimming flash off of rubber? SOFT rubber.

Have you tried scissors?  Those teeny-tiny sewing scissors used to
clip threads and such would probably be just the ticket. 

Just so yer wife doesn't catch you sneakin' 'em out of her sewing box!

Cheers and all,


--
                    Bill Shatzer   - bshatzer@orednet.org
                   Associate Professor of Bisociation Studies
   Nicholas Bourbaki Institute for the Study of Non-reproducible Phenonmena
                        "Cave ab homine unius librum."

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 20:11:40 -0800
From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
To: WW1 Mailing list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: MvR theories
Message-ID: <199901220411.UAA14485@spare.rapidnet.net>


Bill writes . .

> Does Ferko give a footnote as to where this supposed recall is documented?
> The Ulanoff translation of Richthofen's autobio makes no mention of it,
> only that "Wolff flew beneath me." (p.107). One of Wolff's bullets would
> have had to make more turns than Oswald's magic bullet. I have a tough
time
> believing that *any pilot* in the most successful, disciplined Jasta in
> Flanders would open fire at extreme range. Wolff had 31 confirmed at the
> time (Above the Lines, p.233). He didn't get that successful by spraying
> random shots hoping to hit someone.
> 
> Not completely closed to the idea, but a lucky shot by Woodbridge makes
> more sense and is more likely.

I don't think Ferko means Wolff hit MvR, rather one of the other pilots
following behind MvR and Wolff. . and he doesn't say they were shooting at
the FEs, but rather they were testing their guns   "The battle would soon be
joined but while still well out of range, in fact before even clearing his
guns, he felt the hammer like blow to the head"

Ferko lists 20 books as well as unit records and articles *too numerous to
list* as his sources including the original German edition of MvR's
autobiography.


Regards,
         Bob Pearson

Visit my WW1 aviation page at
http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1

Managing Editor / Internet Modeler
http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn/

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 20:37:07 -0800 (PST)
From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer)
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Baumer Debate WAS Re: Baumer...
Message-ID: <199901220437.UAA08553@compass.OregonVOS.net>



-snips-

>Also I recall reading that red pigment was scarce in wartime Germany, which
>is why it was the mark of an ace to have a lot of red on your a/c.
>Interesting theory and it seems sensible enough, but does anyone know if
>there was any truth to it?

>D.V.

That has always seemed a pretty shakey premise to me.  In fact, of
course, there were -lots- of German "aces" which didn't use red on
their aircraft which where painted from all the way from black (Jacobs) 
to white (Goering, Weiss) and most of the colors in between. 

(Although, I must admit that I've never seen a reference to a "Pink Baron.")

I've seen references that MvR picked red simply because that was
the regimental color of his first regiment, the 1st Uhlans.  I've
never been able to verify that red was, in fact, the regimental
color of the 1st Uhlans but the theory makes some sense.

Cheers and all,


--
                    Bill Shatzer   - bshatzer@orednet.org
                   Associate Professor of Bisociation Studies
   Nicholas Bourbaki Institute for the Study of Non-reproducible Phenonmena
                        "Cave ab homine unius librum."

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 20:32:23 -0800
From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
To: WW1 Mailing list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Baumer Debate WAS Re: Baumer...
Message-ID: <199901220432.UAA14681@spare.rapidnet.net>


Bill writes . .

> I've seen references that MvR picked red simply because that was
> the regimental color of his first regiment, the 1st Uhlans.  I've
> never been able to verify that red was, in fact, the regimental
> color of the 1st Uhlans but the theory makes some sense.


Greg Vanwyngarden has mentioned a book on the colours of all the German
regiments ... I forget if he was wishing for one, or saying one exists. .
I'll have to ask when I next speak to him.


Regards,
         Bob Pearson

Visit my WW1 aviation page at
http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1

Managing Editor / Internet Modeler
http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn/

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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:50:30 -0600
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: rubber bullets
Message-ID: <36A80396.40F9@bellsouth.net>

Bill Shatzer wrote:
> Have you tried scissors?  Those teeny-tiny sewing scissors used to
> clip threads and such would probably be just the ticket.
>
Ok, I just gave it a try with a pair of cuticle sissors. It DOES cut the
flash, but not close enough. Back inthe freezer it goes. 
Thanks.

> Just so yer wife doesn't catch you sneakin' 'em out of her sewing box!
>
Yeah, like my wife sews. 
E.
 
> Cheers and all,
> 
> --
>                     Bill Shatzer   - bshatzer@orednet.org
>                    Associate Professor of Bisociation Studies
>    Nicholas Bourbaki Institute for the Study of Non-reproducible Phenonmena
>                         "Cave ab homine unius librum."

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:10:55 -0800
From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: WWI SIDNA
Message-ID: <36A8B11F.6AC7@ricochet.net>

Kevin Wenker wrote:
> 
> The Halb CL II - is it 1/48?  If so, please put my name on it.
> Thanks
> Kevin W

Yes, it is 1/48 and I forgot to address the previous message to you.  I
rolled a die and your number came up.  I'm offering the Halberstadt, but
in case you havn't heard I'd rather trade it for an Eduard kit (Nie. 17
or Alb. D.Va or ?) than sell it.  Let me know what you've got.

Riordan

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 02:11:35 EST
From: Modelhound@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: rubber bullets
Message-ID: <a6acc84f.36a824a7@aol.com>

Perhaps one of those clipers sold for removing the parts from the casting
sprue.  They cut with a pinching action and are ground to cut flush on one
side.  Or similarly fingernail clipers.  I have used this technique combined
with the freezer trick when triming the flash around the center of rubber
tires on some hot rod kits.
Mike 

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:49:14 +0000
From: Graham Nash <graham.nash@citicorp.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: 'Blast from the Past'
Message-ID: <199901220850.DAA20797@egate2.citicorp.com>

I'd like to recommend the following nostalgic site to y'all.

http://www.f104g.demon.co.uk/silho/

Best,

Uncle Sniffy

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:25:45 -0800
From: "Sandy Adam" <cbbs@almac.co.uk>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Cat theme
Message-ID: <199901220928.JAA19059@beryl.sol.co.uk>

> >Head of a MAN? 
> >Where did you get this from?
> >The St Mark's lion has a LION's head.
> 
> Yeah, on closer inspection, yer right.
> But it -is- a pretty dopey-looking lion's head, no?

I think it is meant to be ferocious. If you walk around Venice, the lion's
head symbol is everywhere - on bridge arches, porticos, churches etc etc.
Fascinatingly if you travel around the mediterranean islands you keep
running into this same symbol as a reminder of the Doge's power.
I remember visiting Crete on holiday just after a business trip to Venezia
and stopping in my tracks when I saw the huge St Mark's Lion on the
fortress entrance at Heraklion.
Sandy

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:04:51 -0600
From: "Charles or Linda Duckworth" <cnlduckwor@ninenet.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: rubber bullets
Message-ID: <199901221158.FAA22589@mail.primary.net>

> And Charlie, you come to South LA and don't even give a holler?  
Sorry.....it was a three day trip; fly into New Orleans airport get car, 2
1/2 drive to Opelousas/Lafayette, meet with railroad at Opelousas and race
back to NO....hop on TWA.  Hopefully next time I can give you a ring and we
can have a brew together.  Charlie


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:18:42 -0600
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: rubber bullets
Message-ID: <36A86CA2.313E@bellsouth.net>

Charles or Linda Duckworth wrote:
> 
> > And Charlie, you come to South LA and don't even give a holler?
> Sorry.....it was a three day trip; fly into New Orleans airport get car, 2
> 1/2 drive to Opelousas/Lafayette, meet with railroad at Opelousas and race
> back to NO....hop on TWA.  Hopefully next time I can give you a ring and we
> can have a brew together.  Charlie


Ok, fair enough. ttyl. :)
E.

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 05:35:27 +0000
From: Mike Dicianna <mikedc@dnc.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: rubber bullets
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990122053527.006e4274@dnc.net>

At 08:19 PM 1/21/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Howdy Folks,
>
>I've been playin around with the Williams Bros Vickers gun model. 
>It has an ammo belt made out of rubber. The belt has has some flash and
>other little things that need to be trimed. But when I try to remove the
>flash with an x-acto, the blade just pushes it out of the way. Seems
>that files or sand paper would just ruin it. Anybody have any experience
>trimming flash off of rubber? SOFT rubber.
>Or does anybody have an alternative solution? Can anybody tell me how
>big a 1/72 or 1/76 shell for a tank or big gun might be? And are such
>things available in the aftermarket? 
>E.
>
>I also have the entire set of Williams Bros Machine guns.  I have had an idea
for some time now of doing a display of say, a pair of spandaus with a section
of the upper fuselage of a DR.I (Red of course) with all the associated details
like a fuel guage/farring(sp?), front upper portion of the cowl and ejection
chutes....in 1" scale, a real project.....

For the parabellum, a full mount w/ring and associated accessories.  Mounted on
the upper portion of a Roland C.II fuselage section, with the visible portions
of the gunner's position detailed appropriately....

I had always planned on turning a few bullets out of streched sprue, making a
link belt secion of cloth tape painted tan.  I also have dillusions of
grandeaur...    I suppose you could trim the rubber with sharp manicure
scissors. :}
Mikedc
"Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer"


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:06:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Allan Wright <aew>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: rubber bullets
Message-ID: <199901221406.JAA26468@pease1.sr.unh.edu>

>I've been playin around with the Williams Bros Vickers gun model. 
>It has an ammo belt made out of rubber. The belt has has some flash and
>other little things that need to be trimed. But when I try to remove the
>flash with an x-acto, the blade just pushes it out of the way. Seems
>that files or sand paper would just ruin it. Anybody have any experience
>trimming flash off of rubber? SOFT rubber.
>Or does anybody have an alternative solution? Can anybody tell me how
>big a 1/72 or 1/76 shell for a tank or big gun might be? And are such
>things available in the aftermarket? 

Why not use your sprue sheers? They should do the trick.

-Allan

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:26:07 -0600 (CST)
From: Rick Milas <rmilas@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: The return of my site
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990122082313.1794B-100000@staff1.cso.uiuc.edu>

Bob,
Sorry I didn't say anything sooner, but it's great to have your site back!
(There are a couple of things I was unable to bring up though the last
time I visited, such as the Jasta 7 profiles)
Rick


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:29:41 -0600
From: Kevin Wenker <kwenker@interaccess.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: WWI SIDNA
Message-ID: <36A89965.6E5C@interaccess.com>

mgoodwin@ricochet.net wrote:
> 
> Kevin Wenker wrote:
> >
> > The Halb CL II - is it 1/48?  If so, please put my name on it.
> > Thanks
> > Kevin W
> 
> Yes, it is 1/48 and I forgot to address the previous message to you.  I
> rolled a die and your number came up.  I'm offering the Halberstadt, but
> in case you havn't heard I'd rather trade it for an Eduard kit (Nie. 17
> or Alb. D.Va or ?) than sell it.  Let me know what you've got.
> 
> Riordan

<LOL>.  Yes, I've got a N 17 I could trade.
Thanks
Kevin

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:01:30 -0700
From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Update
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990122090130.006fbb48@mail>

Dear wife:

Poor little Emody has been throwing up some more. It just breaks your heart
to see this tiny sweetheart standing over the toilet, her little body heaving.

I think the only reason she was up this morning so early was because she
was feeling poorly even then. Anyway, the good news is that she has fallen
ASLEEP on the couch downstairs. So I am upstairs, trying to be very quiet.
We'll see how much sleep this little poobsie can get. And whatever you do,
please don't call. Send e-mail instead (and please do). I think Emily will
be all right very soon, but she is having a very difficult morning. I'll
watch throughout the day, and, if she is still feeling poorly tonight, I'll
have to cancel with Mike.

Hope you are well-despite my news--at work today. Don't worry. Emily is
well looked-after.

Love you,

Dane


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:26:55 -0700
From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Apology for "off-topic" post
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990122092655.006d7d78@mail>

Dear List:

I suppose you have all seen the message I posted to the list about my
daughter's health.

I am of course quite embarrassed, and at the same time apologize for
causing any embarrasment to anyone else.

Please excuse me.

Dane


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:48:53 -0700
From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Apology Update
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990122094853.006fa1b0@mail>

Dear Everyone on the list:

Once again, I apologize for inadvertantly posting the wrong thing to this
list. I suppose it could have been worse. 

Emily is fine--just the usual ailments an almost-three-year-old is prone to.

Anyway, please disregard the "Update" post if you haven't already read it,
and rest assured that I ALREADY KNOW!!!

So no need for more notes telling me that I made this error.

Thank you.

Dane	


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:13:08 EST
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Apology for "off-topic" post
Message-ID: <f28ba096.36a8b1a4@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/22/99 8:29:03 AM Pacific Standard Time,
2814823733@home.com writes:

<< Dear List:
 
 I suppose you have all seen the message I posted to the list about my
 daughter's health.
 
 I am of course quite embarrassed, and at the same time apologize for
 causing any embarrasment to anyone else.
 
 Please excuse me.
 
 Dane
  >>

Well, since the message did get posted, I hope she gets better soon!
Robert K.

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:19:47 -0700
From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Toko Nie. 11 update
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990122101947.006879d0@mail>

Back to legitimate WW I topics; hope I don't send the wife this one by
mistake. ;-)

Last weekend, I asked Matt a few questions about the Toko Nie. 11. However,
almost as soon as I did, the list bumped me off, and I missed messages for
a whole day. But I just took a look at the appropriate archive entry, so
let me now thank you, Matt, for taking the time to answer my questions.

I am glad to hear about CDL; I just think it looks better on a Nie. 11 than
aluminized dope. Even before I asked you anything, I had the sense that
something was wrong with the French roundels.Even today the blue in French
A.F. roundels is very light. So, I decided to do the Russian guy, the one
with the Jolly Roger on the tail. I debated sending away for some decals
really quickly, but decided against it as that would destroy the purpose of
the exercise. There's always later, as the Nieuport 11 was, to me at least,
the F-16 of its day, what with it being adorned with the roundels of so
many of the world's air arms. Lots more colour schemes to do.

My question about the cowling was silly. As I said, it was supposed to be a
quick "slammer," so I later when I looked over my single reference source,
the old Arms & Armour photo book on Nieuports (not bad reference for $4,
but wished it had more on a few specific Nieuports), and noticed the cheek
pieces. Problem non-existent.

Model is now well on the way, with cockpit having received some rudimentary
detailing with scrap (though now that that's done, I wish I'd done more),
the fuselage is together, the lower wing is on, and the cowling and
tailplane is also on, and all seams are pretty much smoothed over.

The only hitch I can see is that I rashly cut away the ugly Toko
interpretation of the windscreen. When I cut this away, just after I bought
the kit last fall, I didn't quite know what I was doing; thought that the
Nie. screen was just like all other fighters' screens. It's not. So now
will have to fashion a new one, probably using clear styrene.

Other than that, it's been a hoot. Of course, "slammer" to me means I hope
to have it finished within 3 or 4 weeks of having commenced it, but that's
just me. I can also see where Matt gets his notion of scale from; after
you've worked on something like this for a few days, everything else seems
unbelievably enormous. That 1/72 Academy P-47 I am concurrently working on
looks to be about 1/32 next to the Nie. 11!

Next in the pipe will be the Toko Snipe. Am I correct in assuming that the
Barker Snipe (pretty much obligatory for a Canadian) should have the
earlier ailerons and rudder? And yes, I know the roundels are wrong for the
Snipe as well.

Dane


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:11:10 -0800
From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
To: WW1 Mailing list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: The return of my site
Message-ID: <199901221711.JAA18138@spare.rapidnet.net>


Rick,

Oops. . I had missed the Jasta 7 profiles when I uploaded to XOOM (they are
there now) .. if you find any other missing links please let me know so I
can fix them. I know those at the bottom of the varioous pages need fixing
still.

Bob

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> From: Rick Milas <rmilas@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> Subject: Re: The return of my site
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:26:12 -0500 (EST)
> 
> Bob,
> Sorry I didn't say anything sooner, but it's great to have your site back!
> (There are a couple of things I was unable to bring up though the last
> time I visited, such as the Jasta 7 profiles)
> Rick


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:15:14 -0800
From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
To: WW1 Mailing list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Toko Nie. 11 update
Message-ID: <199901221715.JAA18168@spare.rapidnet.net>


Dane writes . .

> Next in the pipe will be the Toko Snipe. Am I correct in assuming that the
> Barker Snipe (pretty much obligatory for a Canadian) should have the
> earlier ailerons and rudder? And yes, I know the roundels are wrong for
the
> Snipe as well.
> 
> Dane

Yup. 

Bob

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