WWI Digest 1406 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Croix De Guerre by "Robert Woodbury" 2) Re: Cat theme by Bob Pearson 3) RE: VCR alert by Bob Pearson 4) Re: Decal Trade Wanted by Dennis Ugulano 5) Re: Cat theme by bucky@ptdprolog.net 6) Re: New Eduard Stuff by SmudgeRIO@aol.com 7) Re: Baumer Albatros by bucky@ptdprolog.net 8) Re: Paper Airplanes by "Brad Gossen" 9) Re: Cat theme by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 10) Re: Cat theme by "Brad Gossen" 11) MvR theories:WAS VCR alert by Shane Weier 12) Re: Cat theme by Bob Pearson 13) Re: Baumer Albatros by Mike Fletcher 14) RE: Baumer Albatros by Shane Weier 15) Re: MvR theories:WAS VCR alert by Bob Pearson 16) Off-topic Stranraer flying boat found by Bob Pearson 17) Re: Cat theme by Bob Pearson 18) Re: Off-topic Stranraer flying boat found by Ernest Thomas 19) The Stranraer has left the building... by Ernest Thomas 20) Re: MvR theories:WAS VCR alert by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 21) Re: Cat theme by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 22) RE: Cat theme by "Richard Caudron" 23) RE: Cat theme by "Richard Caudron" 24) RE: Cat theme by "Richard Caudron" 25) Re: Baumer Albatros by Mike Fletcher 26) Bandwidth issue by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 27) Re: Dolphin> WAS: WWI model by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 28) Re: Cat theme by "Sandy Adam" 29) Re: MvR theories:WAS VCR alert by "Sandy Adam" 30) Re: An Author in our midst! by Yves Buffetaut ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:45:56 +0800 From: "Robert Woodbury" To: Subject: Croix De Guerre Message-ID: <000a01be44e8$2b3be6c0$91107482@robertw-pc-fl.per.clw.csiro.au> Hi All, I have a friend here at work who is trying to track down details on the above medal that was awarded to her Grandfather in the Great War. As it's a French award maybe some of our French list members with the right contacts could point us in the right direction. The details that I have are below. Thanks in advance. Rob Lieutenant William John Lambert No 1412 Served with the Australian Imperial Forces. Awarded the French medal the Croix De Guerre between 1916-1918. Looking for information on the citation & circumstances surrounding the awarding of the medal with a view to recovering the medal itself. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:42:32 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Cat theme Message-ID: <199901210242.SAA05017@spare.rapidnet.net> He flew a Nieuport 24 with N.87 and had their black cat on the side. Wellman won the first Academy Award for WINGS in 1927. And yes, I have it profiled :-) Bob ---------- > From: Matthew E Bittner > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Cat theme > Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 20:23:34 -0500 (EST) > > On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:38:23 -0500 (EST) KarrArt@aol.com writes: > > >Calling Mr. Nieuport- hey Matt- get him fixed up with William > >Wellman's > >Nieuport(17?)! > > Ok. I'm going to have to show my ignorance. Who is William Wellman, and > what was so special about his Nieuport? Sorry. > > > Matt Bittner > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:43:35 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: RE: VCR alert Message-ID: <199901210243.SAA05032@spare.rapidnet.net> Shane writes . . > > turns out he wasn't MvR's victim at all ........ the only Pat > > from No.60 Sqn > > shot down ten days after the 20th March 1917 was 2/Lt WP > > Garnett of No.60 > > Sqn, except he was downed by Ltn Kurt Wolff for Wolff's 4th > > victory. > > While I applaud this piece of research it doesn't necessarily follow that > "Pat" was really named "Pat" at all. Instances abound of people being called > by names other than those they're legally bound to for reasons known only to > themselves and those close to them. For example, > An interesting analysis, but not necessarily conclusive > > Shane My remarks are based on his being the only 60 Sqn pilot downed by Jasta 11 on the requiste date. I looked for a 60 Sqn a/c downed around the 30th. . and went from there. First I checked MvR's victories .. and no luck. After that I went to The Sky Their Battlefield for any 60 Sqn loses and found Garnett ... whom I vaguely recall the pilot's surname sounding like in the interview. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:17:22 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Decal Trade Wanted Message-ID: <199901202217_MC2-675D-CDF0@compuserve.com> Kevin, I only have one set that is partially used. Have you tried ordering directly from Pegasus or Aeroclub? I get mine from Aeroclub. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:18:06 -0500 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cat theme Message-ID: <36A69C6E.9224D7B8@ptdprolog.net> mkendix wrote: > . Can anyone suggest a WWI (preferably aeroplane) > modelling item that is related to a cat/feline/lion/tiger? What about the St. Mark's lion used by the Serenessima flight of Ansaldo SVA 5s over Austrian capital? I think that maybe Pegasus did this in 1/72.Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:20:59 EST From: SmudgeRIO@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Eduard Stuff Message-ID: <78acce79.36a69d1b@aol.com> Truly great news!!!! Smudge ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:22:39 -0500 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Baumer Albatros Message-ID: <36A69D7F.33C30303@ptdprolog.net> David R.L. Laws wrote: > In answer to you specific question I'd be happy to collaborate ( Mike > are you there ! ) Yep.;..more than willing to assist, but my knowledge of copyright law is pretty limited.Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:47:16 -0500 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: Paper Airplanes Message-ID: <199901210355.WAA27304@mail5.globalserve.net> I have two 1/14 scale paper kits. One is an SE5a in 92 sqdrn markings (ala the profile publication). The other is you know who's triplane. While I have not built one myself, I have seen completed examples and they are very impressive. They are marketed by a company called Paper-Kits and production credit is given to a Martinez Casalta of Spain. I believe Aviation World in Toronto still had a few in stock last time I was there, if anyone is interested. They retail for something like $24.95 (Cdn). Brad ---------- > From: Peter Crow > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Paper Airplanes > Date: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 8:28 PM > > David wrote.. > > > >There's a card modelling site with an faq on the web and O'Hoolihan was > >right, Murphy ( as in Murhy's Law ) was was an optimist - I just dumped > >the URL two days ago ! Has some pretty useful info on folding and > >forming techniques applicable to scratching in plastic card - Tip via > >Harry Woodman BTW > > > >david > > Heres the site.... > > > http://er4www.eng.ohio-state.edu/~browns/card-faq/ > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 19:59:13 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cat theme Message-ID: <199901210359.TAA02082@compass.OregonVOS.net> Rick writes: > mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu writes: > ><< Can anyone suggest a WWI (preferably aeroplane) > modelling item that is related to a cat/feline/lion/tiger? >> > >Do mean markings using the cat family? There were some planes that had a >"Rampant Lion" markings. Schleich's Albatros D.V and Fokker D.VII had this as >well as an Albatros D.III (I believe) had a black cat on a white band around >the fuselage. I can't remember who this belonged to. The Italians had some >lions on there aircraft also. Not much help, I'm afraid. That would be 87a Squadriglia - SVA.5s. Still, not a "real" lion but rather the Lion of St. Mark - a kinda sphinx-like creature with the body of a lion but the head of a man and the wings of an eagle. Has anyone suggested any of Lowenhardt's aircraft? Or Spa 78? Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org Associate Professor of Bisociation Studies Nicholas Bourbaki Institute for the Study of Non-reproducible Phenonmena "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:12:39 -0500 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: Cat theme Message-ID: <199901210420.XAA00442@mail5.globalserve.net> How about Jennies from Armour Heights, Camp Borden, Camp Mohawk and Leaside Aerodrome, Canada circa 1917-18. Serials C753, C703, C616, C705, C446, etc... All with Black Cat insignia on sides. Pester Mr. Pearson for profiles. Brad ---------- > From: Bob Pearson > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Cat theme > Date: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 9:54 PM > > > He flew a Nieuport 24 with N.87 and had their black cat on the side. Wellman > won the first Academy Award for WINGS in 1927. > > And yes, I have it profiled :-) > > Bob > > ---------- > > From: Matthew E Bittner > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Re: Cat theme > > Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 20:23:34 -0500 (EST) > > > > On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:38:23 -0500 (EST) KarrArt@aol.com writes: > > > > >Calling Mr. Nieuport- hey Matt- get him fixed up with William > > >Wellman's > > >Nieuport(17?)! > > > > Ok. I'm going to have to show my ignorance. Who is William Wellman, and > > what was so special about his Nieuport? Sorry. > > > > > > Matt Bittner > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:21:35 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: MvR theories:WAS VCR alert Message-ID: Bob reports (sensibly without comment): > The late AE Ferko has an interesting theory about MvR's head > injury . . > remember that he was shot in the back of the head while > approaching an FE head-on .. ... . Ferko believed MvR was actually shot down > by one of his own men. Another grassy knoll theory... Mmm, lets see. If MvR was shot in the back of his head from behind while facing forward the bullet would presumably have exited the front of his head and we'd have been spared all those theories over who shot the red baron. We read reports that he was struck a glancing blow which exposed part of his skull, so either the bullet came from the side or dear old 'freddy was looking over his shoulder to check his tail, as is the wont of long lived fighter pilots, or saving himself from the fate of Boelke, or making sure that his Jasta was following or..... Which means he could well have been struck from behind. Or from in front. Pick the most likely option a) (If you're a realist) The bullet came from in front and notched his head which was turned to the side (see above) b) (if you want a new fantasy, wrapped up as a conspiracy and marketed as a theory) Jasta 11 shot him - thereby providing the material for several books, a hundred journal articles and possible screen rights Gawd. Today seems to be my day as list cynic, but when *theories* like this appear it makes sense to either debunk them if they're really, really silly, or show that there is a *logical* explanation as well as one for that well known documentary series "The X files" Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 20:20:50 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Cat theme Message-ID: <199901210420.UAA05720@spare.rapidnet.net> > How about Jennies from Armour Heights, Camp Borden, Camp Mohawk and > Leaside Aerodrome, Canada circa 1917-18. Serials C753, C703, C616, C705, > C446, etc... All with Black Cat insignia on sides. Pester Mr. Pearson for > profiles. DOH !!!!!!! I forgot about those ones ...... and my Merlin Canuck is even done as one. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 20:36:38 -0800 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Baumer Albatros Message-ID: <36A6AED6.24A8F1BF@mars.ark.com> Different types of film also make an appreaciable difference. Orthochromatic film has virtually disappeared now, but it was one of the most commonly available films of the time and it is insensitive to red or yellow light much like modern b&w photo paper. What this means is that these colours are hard to distinguish from black in a print. The reason these types of film were used (until the second ww even) was because they provided pictures that had higher contrast and less graininess. Beyond painting something from ww1 bright green, I see no problem with simply picking a colour - so long as you can justify why such a colour was chosen, and that can include that the colour is unknown and that is your best guess. Any more than this is getting too semantic. Shane Weier wrote: > > RK, > > > > I may still be wrong, but whatever the color was, it wasn't Jasta > > 5 stripe red, although it's been suggested that maybe another shade was > > used- this may turn out to be the correct answer. > > What do you base this on - the difference in tones in a B&W photo? > > Unfortunately colour is not the only thing which can cause this, and making > judgements of possible colours is fraught with difficulties other than the > transposition of colours to grey scale. > > Finish. Lets assume that the fuselage is Matt and the stripe gloss. > Different tones in B&W > > Method of application - spray v brush. Was one sprayed, the other brushed > > Number of coats - more solid finish after second coat (and this seems *very* > possible) > > Quality of paint - was the Jasta 5 paint nice thick and creaaaammy, and > Baumers paint some crap from the local shop > > Not taking a position in either camp - just pointing out that the different > tones mean bugger all without context - it is possible to show photos where > fuselages appear to have *white* crosses because the sun reflects more > strongly off the glossy surface of the issue black paint than the matt > surface of the non issue painted fuselage, but hardly anyone believes the > crosses weren't black ! > > Shane -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:51:11 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Baumer Albatros Message-ID: Mike, > Different types of film also make an appreaciable difference. > Orthochromatic film has virtually disappeared now, FWIW I doubt if you'd find ortho film available in 35mm any more, anywhere, but I have a 2 year old box of 100 sheets of 8x10 ortho stashed in my freezer. For the reasons you mention - insensitivity to red end colours - it's usefull in the darkroom. I also have - probably useless due to age and improper storage - ortho rollfilm for my medium format cameras languishing in a box in my garage. God alone knows why I bought it, but it'd be fun to photograph a few models with a variety of colours and show the difference from the result with panchro. .....If I still had a darkroom, which i don't Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 20:49:14 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: MvR theories:WAS VCR alert Message-ID: <199901210449.UAA05977@spare.rapidnet.net> Shane writes . .. > Bob reports (sensibly without comment): > > > The late AE Ferko has an interesting theory about MvR's head > > injury . . > > remember that he was shot in the back of the head while > > approaching an FE head-on .. ... . Ferko believed MvR was actually shot > down > > by one of his own men. > > Another grassy knoll theory... > > Mmm, lets see. If MvR was shot in the back of his head from behind while > facing forward the bullet would presumably have exited the front of his head > and we'd have been spared all those theories over who shot the red baron. In RICHTHOFEN, Ferko says " . . . The battle would soon be joined but while still well out of range, he suddenly received a stunning hammer-like blow to the head. Von Richthofen recalled hearing Kurt Wolff's guns firing (Wollf, indeed, had raced into the fray ahead of his leader), and then the lights went out. Von Richthofen was alive, but blind, several thousand feet in the air. At first there was panic and confusion. His arms and legs went limp. Then calmness prevailed as he set about sorting things out while comsidering how to get back safely to earth - if that was at all possible. Of one thing the Rtittmeister felt absolutely certain; he could not have been hit by MG fire from his selected opponent for they were still some 300 metres apart. And it is likely that he is correct. <2 paragraphs deleted> The question begging answering is: how could von Richthofen have been hit on the rear side of his head, behind the left ear, while he was far out of range and approaching his intedned victim from the front? The two machines were heading towards each other! Neither side mentioned anti-aircraft fire so it is improbable a piece of shrapnel hit the rittmeister. Von Richthofen was rendered temorarily blind by a blow to the head wherin lies the brain's primary visual cortez, also known as V.1. Immediately he was hit, the induced trauma in that vital area restricted blood flow, shutting down his vision. But if not shrapnel, and certainly not a bullet from teh FE2d crew, where then did the errant missile come from? One is left with the inescapable conclusion that it could have only come from a member of MvR's own Staffel, either carelessly or accidentally clearing his guns for action, for neither side had developed bullets that shot around corners . . . . " ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:10:03 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Off-topic Stranraer flying boat found Message-ID: <199901210510.VAA06117@spare.rapidnet.net> Greetings all, Although not on-topic, the Stranraer is a biplane boat, so the following may be of interest. On 31 August 1946, a Stranraer flying boat left here (Prince Rupert BC) after dark on a medical emergency for a native village 45 minutes north of here. After picking up the patient the Stranrear was never seen again, although three of the seven on board were later found washed up on shore. In the last few days a local fishing boat dragging for bottom fish 10 miles south of Prince Rupert snagged what is believed to be the remains of the Skeena Queen. Some parts have been recovered, but nothing positive yet. Regards, Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:12:21 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Cat theme Message-ID: <199901210512.VAA06153@spare.rapidnet.net> Bill Shatzer writes . .. > Or Spa 78? Why Spa.78? I have nothing on them, so would welcome any info. Regards, Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:31:10 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Off-topic Stranraer flying boat found Message-ID: <36A6BB9E.4090@bellsouth.net> Bob Pearson wrote: > > Greetings all, > > Although not on-topic, the Stranraer is a biplane boat, so the following may > be of interest. > > On 31 August 1946, a Stranraer flying boat left here (Prince Rupert BC) Since you mentioned this bird, I have the 1/72 Matchbox kit that I no longer need. Any interested parties contact me off list. E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:44:49 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: multiple recipients of list Subject: The Stranraer has left the building... Message-ID: <36A6BED1.227D@bellsouth.net> see subject :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:02:01 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: MvR theories:WAS VCR alert Message-ID: <199901210602.WAA05236@compass.OregonVOS.net> Bob Pearson writes: -snips- >The question begging answering is: how could von Richthofen have been hit on >the rear side of his head, behind the left ear, while he was far out of >range and approaching his intedned victim from the front? How did we determine that MvR was, indeed, "hit on the rear side of his head, behind the left ear". All the descriptions of MvR's wound which I've seen describe it as a "crease" along the left side of his head which exposed but did not penetrate the skull. I would suspect that even modern forensic medicine would find it tough to determine whether the wound was caused by a bullet striking the rear side of his head and continuing forward or striking the forward portion of his head and continuing rearward. I'm quite certain that German field aid posts or even the hospital at Courtrai were not up to, or even particularly interested in, making such a determination. As to being "far out of range", again, the descriptions I've looked at describe the distance between MvR's a/c and the RFC FE's in the 300 meter range. Certainly a "long shot" for accurate aerial gunnery but not outside the realm of possibility for a gunner to "get lucky". Clearly, a .303 machine gun bullet would be more than lethal at such a range and quite capable of inflicting the observed wound. >The two machines >were heading towards each other! Neither side mentioned anti-aircraft fire >so it is improbable a piece of shrapnel hit the rittmeister. Von Richthofen >was rendered temorarily blind by a blow to the head wherin lies the brain's >primary visual cortez, also known as V.1. Immediately he was hit, the >induced trauma in that vital area restricted blood flow, shutting down his >vision. But if not shrapnel, and certainly not a bullet from teh FE2d crew, >where then did the errant missile come from? One is left with the >inescapable conclusion that it could have only come from a member of MvR's >own Staffel, either carelessly or accidentally clearing his guns for action, >for neither side had developed bullets that shot around corners . . . . " While I certainly don't exclude the possibility that MvR was "winged" by one of his own commrades (Kommeraden?), I certainly would not characterize that possibility as an "inescapable conclusion". Even were we able to definitively determine that the "entry wound" was towards the rear of the head (and I don't think we can do that for the reasons outlined above), any good fighter pilot is constantly rotating his head through nearly 360 degrees to be constantly "checking his six". And MvR was certainly a good fighter pilot. Unless we know which way he was looking at the moment the bullet impacted, we have no way of knowing which direction the bullet came from. And, certainly it -was- possible that he had rotated his head and was "checking his six" to the rear at the instant he was hit. And, considering the severity of the wound, even MvR's recollection of which way he might have been looking at that instant are not particularly useful. Head wounds, such as the one he suffered, routinely result in short term memory loss where the injured individual may be unable to recall events occuring minutes or hours or even days before the injury. But, if MvR's memory loss was only seconds, or even fractions of a second, he would be unable to accurately relate whether he was looking forward or back at the instant he took the bullet. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org Associate Professor of Bisociation Studies Nicholas Bourbaki Institute for the Study of Non-reproducible Phenonmena "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:09:39 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cat theme Message-ID: <199901210609.WAA07166@compass.OregonVOS.net> Bob P writes: >Bill Shatzer writes . .. >> Or Spa 78? >Why Spa.78? I have nothing on them, so would welcome any info. The escadrille insignia for Spa 78 was a black panther. Alas, frantic page flipping doesn't turn up a photo but the old Aircam "Spad Scouts" book illustrates the Spa 78 insignia in the color section. But, I -know- I've seen a photo or two of this someplace. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org Associate Professor of Bisociation Studies Nicholas Bourbaki Institute for the Study of Non-reproducible Phenonmena "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:10:34 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: RE: Cat theme Message-ID: <000801be4504$c1a8bf40$e85f5c8b@PCCE.cim-hardi.be> At least a DeHavilland Tiger Moth has been painted with Tiger stripes for one of the last Nato Tiger Meet. It is not a WWI airplane, but is is a biplane. Cheers, Richard Caudron > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > mkendix > Sent: woensdag 20 januari 1999 20:09 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Cat theme > > > I need some help here. Can anyone suggest a WWI (preferably aeroplane) > modelling item that is related to a cat/feline/lion/tiger? Extra helpful > would be if it were readily available in injection mold 1/72nd scale. > > Michael > > > mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:20:51 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: RE: Cat theme Message-ID: <000b01be4506$314e7be0$e85f5c8b@PCCE.cim-hardi.be> For those who should be interessted, I did reduce for my own usage these decals from 1/48 to the 1/72 scale. And it looks great. Picutres can be send if any interest. Cheers, Richard Caudron > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > D. Anderson > Sent: woensdag 20 januari 1999 20:46 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Cat theme > > > At 02:08 PM 20/01/99 -0500, you wrote: > >I need some help here. Can anyone suggest a WWI (preferably aeroplane) > >modelling item that is related to a cat/feline/lion/tiger? > Extra helpful > >would be if it were readily available in injection mold 1/72nd scale. > > > >Michael > > > > > >mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu > > > > > Too bad you're restricting it to W.W. I only. > > There's a beautifully marked Italian air force F-104 that has just an > enormous cat catching some mice on it. > > Dane > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:10:37 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: RE: Cat theme Message-ID: <000901be4504$c34c5d20$e85f5c8b@PCCE.cim-hardi.be> The traditional look of a Ansaldo were the Venitian lion on both sides. If needed, I can scan it. And this is a WWI airplane and BiPlane. Cheers, Richard Caudron > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Steven M. Perry > Sent: woensdag 20 januari 1999 20:40 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Cat theme > > > At 02:08 PM 1/20/99 -0500, you wrote: > >I need some help here. Can anyone suggest a WWI (preferably aeroplane) > >modelling item that is related to a cat/feline/lion/tiger? > Extra helpful > >would be if it were readily available in injection mold 1/72nd scale. > > > >Michael > > > Michael: > > A diorama with a TOKO Nie.11 and a couple of 3/4" or so long Lion figures > as Wiskey & Soda. I've seen charm for charm bracelets about that size and > some gift shops sell tiny animal figurines. > > You said WWI airplane, feline and 1:72.sp > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:33:42 -0800 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Baumer Albatros Message-ID: <36A6CA46.55C188CA@mars.ark.com> do these require different chemicals? I belive that ortho film might still be available through the some photo specialty stores in larger cities but expect to pay an arm and a leg for it. If not, then the chemical formulas should at least have been published somewhere... -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:59:16 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Bandwidth issue Message-ID: <36A77904.74C4@ricochet.net> I hate to rain on anyone's parade or be a whiner, but I'm getting around 90-100 messages a day from the list, and a significant portion are off-topic banter or on topic pun/joke threads. While I'm not suggesting completely dispensing with levity, perhaps we might once more reduce it to a managable level...? killjoy mode off, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:13:40 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Dolphin> WAS: WWI model Message-ID: <36A77C64.7D97@ricochet.net> Shane Weier wrote: > > Of course, this applies to 2 seaters too - Biff anyone? - so I have to > either start on the terminally obscure or pick my targets, then hit and run There are plenty of fascinating obscure subjects. For example, I can gaurantee that even if you take 5 years to build a Rumpler G type, no cottage or mainstream types will make a modelling fool of you. There aren't any known drawings, and the reference materials are very scarce, including my Chandelle article! Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:04:13 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Cat theme Message-ID: <199901211004.KAA09661@beryl.sol.co.uk> > That would be 87a Squadriglia - SVA.5s. Still, not a "real" lion > but rather the Lion of St. Mark - a kinda sphinx-like creature > with the body of a lion but the head of a man and the wings of > an eagle. Head of a MAN? Where did you get this from? The St Mark's lion has a LION's head. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:49:05 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: MvR theories:WAS VCR alert Message-ID: <199901211004.KAA09656@beryl.sol.co.uk> > Gawd. Today seems to be my day as list cynic, but when *theories* like this > appear it makes sense to either debunk them if they're really, really silly, > or show that there is a *logical* explanation as well as one for that well > known documentary series "The X files" > Shane So we should keep an open mind that "Pat" might have been called "Willie" or "Fred" or indeed anything but "Pat", but we should close our minds entirely to the possibility that RicePudding might have been hit by a stray German bullet? I don't really care either way, but let's just leave it as an open possibility. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:41:09 +0200 From: Yves Buffetaut To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: An Author in our midst! Message-ID: <36A6F631.1386@club-internet.fr> Dear Matt, You can find my book, as Allan told us at Amazon.com : http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/290818267X/qid%3D916796423/sr%3D1-1/002-7448597-6303225 This is quite a long address ! Retail price is down by 30 % at $ 27.97. You'll get it in 2-3 days. Yves ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1406 **********************