WWI Digest 1400 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: 1/28th SPAD decals by Suvoroff@aol.com 2) Re: WWI model by Bob Pearson 3) Re: Bound profiles, C&Cs & bidding approaches by Zulis@aol.com 4) Re: The Skull Collection by KarrArt@aol.com 5) RE: Confused Bunnies! :-) and seven Swabians by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 6) Re: God Bless Us.... by KarrArt@aol.com 7) Re: WWI model by KarrArt@aol.com 8) Re: WWI model by Ernest Thomas 9) RE: The Skull Collection by "Robert Woodbury" 10) Re: The Skull Collection by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 11) Re: 1/48 Morane-Saulnier by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 12) Re: New Eduard Stuff by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 13) Museum Report by "John Glaser" 14) RE: The Skull Collection by "John Glaser" 15) RE: WWI model by "John Glaser" 16) Re: WWI model by Bob Pearson 17) C&CI Help by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 18) Re: The Skull Collection by KarrArt@aol.com 19) Re: C&CI Help by BStett3770@aol.com 20) Very off-topic (1950s cars) by Bob Pearson 21) Re: The Skull Collection by Ernest Thomas 22) Re: New Eduard Stuff by Suvoroff@aol.com 23) Re: Very off-topic (1950s cars) by Ernest Thomas 24) Re: WWI model by "David Vosburgh" 25) RE: New Eduard Stuff by Shane Weier 26) RE: New Eduard Stuff by Shane Weier 27) Re: Very off-topic (1950s cars) by "sharon Henderson" 28) Re: G-8 and his Battle Aces by "Bill Ciciora" 29) Re: Museum Report by Mike Fletcher 30) Re: The Skull Collection by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 31) Re: Museum Report & Harleyford books by Zulis@aol.com 32) Re: C&C Project Butterfly/5-color French Camo by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 33) Re: New Eduard Stuff by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> 34) RE: New Eduard Stuff by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> 35) Re: WWI model by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> 36) RE: WWI model by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:17:45 EST From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/28th SPAD decals Message-ID: <4b55dd1e.36a3eb49@aol.com> Thanks for the information. However, if there are no readily-available commercial decals, I have my very very own ALPS printer and I will be working on this as my very first project. Now I need a scanner so I can draw the artwork (I can't draw in a computer for crap) and scan it in. Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:17:30 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: WWI model Message-ID: <199901190217.SAA20812@spare.rapidnet.net> > same issue, give a look at center left page 63........... > > <> > > Don't know them guys....uh......I kept hoping the Boelcke thing would > disappear! (I was young) > ROBERT K. Am I missing something here? I see a photo of RK's BE2c 4112, but nothing about Boelcke Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:32:16 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Bound profiles, C&Cs & bidding approaches Message-ID: In a message dated 1/18/99 8:18:09PM, you write: << Well I don't think I would go that far. I picked up a complete set of Cross & Cockades at a very nice price a couple of months ago. Apologies to everyone that I out bid. John Cyg. >> Congratulations, John! I am so pleased they went to one of our members.... I looked at them and agonized for days (I think Bob Pearson was my spiritual advisor and financial voice of reason throughout that process). When I finally decided that food and rent might be more important than a straight run of C&Cs, it almost broke my heart. Now that I know who got it, I feel much better about the entire matter. Regarding all the things that have been said here about ebay, I think the list is pretty well right on the mark. My own technique is to toss in a "bookmark" bid early in the process and then consider my level of interest on the actual closing date. I would say that for well over half of my auctions, this is where my bidding ends because the price has become unreasonable. (This, incidentally, is also the stage at which I decide if I really want the book badly enough to compete with another list member). If I do not bid further, I come back to it in a few days to check what the final selling price was and enter that into a database I have on current prices. If three or four times the same book goes for more than I expected (which is the case with the Apostolo book, for example) I re-examine my personal price to see if I am wrong - or are they? Probably more detail than anyone really wanted but.... Regards, Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:41:05 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The Skull Collection Message-ID: <2965ee89.36a3f0c1@aol.com> In a message dated 1/18/99 6:17:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, JohnGlaser@worldnet.att.net writes: << 100 watts of electric sex in the living room window. - JG >> be careful with that kind of talk or you'll put your eye out! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:41:12 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Confused Bunnies! :-) and seven Swabians Message-ID: <01BE4322.E37383A0.panz-meador@vsti.com> for those interested in these sheets, you might contact sopwith hobbies in miami, FL. i bought two sheets in 1:72 last year (spring and summer IIRC). i believe their e-mail is sopwithusa@aol.com. they have always provided quick service in my somewhat limited dealings with them. as for ALPS sheets, i'd seriously suggest that this be reconsidered. as shane pointed out earlier today, the enterprise could run afoul of various laws EVEN though the sheet is OOP and EVEN though the company, PD, MAY be out of business. either way, the intellectual property rights still reside with PD. is this an insurmountable problem? the answer most definitely is NO. even a modicum of effort on your (the generic you) part, e.g. tracing the seven swabians from photos in, for example, Over the Front, produces ORIGINAL research, which may be used or distributed as you see fit. who knows, you may even copyright it by putting a little "C" in a circle next to your name and date at the bottom of the sheet... phillip -----Original Message----- From: bucky@ptdprolog.net [SMTP:bucky@ptdprolog.net] Sent: Monday, January 18, 1999 7:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Confused Bunnies! :-) and seven Swabians When I was doing mine this Fall, my exchange student had her mother check on the legend/fable in Germany and no "mandatory" colors were forthcoming. So, let your imagination run wild...except maybe for that bunny skulls thing, that kinda worries me. Mike Muth Robert Woodbury wrote: > > > > The PD Decals sheet is long out of production, though I sometimes see a > > sheet (usually just after the last person looking for one has it from > > elsewhere :-( ) > > > There were (may still be) a few copies in 1:48 floating around here in > Perth, may even be some in 1:72... > > As for colours. (Insert shoulder shrug here.) I read the articles that > appeared in Windsock, they give some clues to the colours in the legend. As > an example "Gelbfuss" would likely have had gold or yellow feet, but the > rest?? Tell me when you find out... > > Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:41:06 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: God Bless Us.... Message-ID: <449eea09.36a3f0c2@aol.com> In a message dated 1/18/99 6:20:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, lemen@wireweb.net writes: << I was unsubscribed since 3 January (Due to a failing Motherboard.) till late in the afternoon of the 18th. First message to List Processor was at 7:51PMThese message were hung out somewhere on ta server which just turned them loose even though they had already finished their earlier purpose. When it comes to goofy, computers can do. Lee >> Welcome back! Today's time-warp factor must've been doubly strange. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:41:09 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI model Message-ID: <8ff5d289.36a3f0c5@aol.com> In a message dated 1/18/99 6:28:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, bpearson@kaien.com writes: << Am I missing something here? I see a photo of RK's BE2c 4112, but nothing about Boelcke Bob >> Oh well, my skeleton will tumble out of the closet- my first ever published model thingy was a horrible scratchbuilt Boelcke in the v3 n1 Jan-Feb85 FSM. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:52:03 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI model Message-ID: <36A3F353.35FB@bellsouth.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > Oh well, my skeleton will tumble out of the closet- my first ever published > model thingy was a horrible scratchbuilt Boelcke in the v3 n1 Jan-Feb85 FSM. Got this one too. e ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:59:25 +0800 From: "Robert Woodbury" To: Subject: RE: The Skull Collection Message-ID: <000201be4357$b90ff8c0$91107482@robertw-pc-fl.per.clw.csiro.au> > 100 watts of electric sex in the living room window. > > Ummm, did I miss something here? R ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:56:43 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The Skull Collection Message-ID: <19990118.210200.-915715.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:01:57 -0500 (EST) "John Glaser" writes: >Oh look! FRAGILE Must be from Italy. ROTFL!! I wonder how many are going to get *that* reference. Matt Bittner nb: Off-Topic!!! Woo hoo! MoS is done! nu: Flashback Strutter ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:55:14 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/48 Morane-Saulnier Message-ID: <19990118.210200.-915715.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:46:22 -0500 (EST) John & Allison Cyganowski writes: >These are injection molded. Wings are a weird green color though. I >think the kit has lots of potential. (Pfalz E.II material.) Sacrilege! Blaspheme!! Turning a wonderful MoS into a Pfalz...gads... Oh wait, they were the same thing... Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:57:50 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Eduard Stuff Message-ID: <19990118.210200.-915715.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:03:24 -0500 (EST) Rick Milas writes: >There's also a listing for an upcoming Dr1 and Albatros DV in 1:72. Is >this the golden age for us wwi types or what? While I doubt Eduard could top the Hawkeye Dr.I - an Albatros D.V?? Oh, . If it's like the Flashback Strutter, Happy Days Are Here Again... Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:04:17 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: "WW1 Mail List" Subject: Museum Report Message-ID: <000e01be4358$66ed66d0$fc454a0c@jg_notebook> Well, I made it to the Naval Air Museum in Pensacola today. As advertised, not much on-topic. Modified Nieuport 28 in Navy garb, a rather cool (for a Texan) Camel F1 done up for the USS Texas, a Hanroit HD-4, and a Tommy-Morse S-4-C on floats. There's also a Jenny half cut away to show interior, a poorly restored D-VII and the Curtis NC-4 (BIG!) Met a very interesting fellow while admiring the Jenny. He took his first airplane ride in one in the 1920's. A Barnstormer had come through his North Dakota town and was offering rides for $1.50. Since he only had $0.50, he had to double up with a second kid in the back seat. And all this only after the local Lutheran Minister interceded on his behalf. He said the one thing he remembered most was having to hang on to the leather flying helmet. Apparently, it was too big for his young head and kept trying to blow off. He also mischievously added that his parents where nowhere around at the time. Truly a great story. Spent a lot of time in the library after talking my way in as a WW1 modeler there to do research. Fortunately able to sound convincing by rattling off several types currently under the knife. Admired the bound profiles for Al and spent much time going through the various Haleyford (sp?) books there. Does anyone have a non-Ebay price fix on the three volume set of Great War Aircraft? They are fighters, bombers/reconnaissance and maritime. Would be a nice addition to my growing library. Great collection of inter-war Navy aircraft and as expected, a very large collection from that "other" war. Full scale mock-ups of WW 2 carrier living spaces, flight and hanger decks, a Marine VF front line squadron. Special for Old Coot Karr is a WW 2 home town street. Great for the kids is a collection of flight simulator cockpits in 1:1 scale available for boarding and climbing. Everything from a Harrier to a F-14. Only wish I had my 11 year old son there to stoke his Jet-Jockey desires. In all, nice museum and worth a day trip if you are ever in the west Florida panhandle. - John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:04:30 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: The Skull Collection Message-ID: <000f01be4358$6eb792a0$fc454a0c@jg_notebook> A great story from a great American humorist - Jean Shepard. > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > KarrArt@aol.com > Sent: Monday, January 18, 1999 8:43 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: The Skull Collection > > > In a message dated 1/18/99 6:17:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, > JohnGlaser@worldnet.att.net writes: > > << 100 watts of electric sex in the living room window. > > - JG >> > > be careful with that kind of talk or you'll put your eye out! > Robert K. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:09:09 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: WWI model Message-ID: <001001be4359$151c2930$fc454a0c@jg_notebook> Young??????? I didn't know FSM was around in 1856........ -JG > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > KarrArt@aol.com > Sent: Monday, January 18, 1999 8:13 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: WWI model > > > In a message dated 1/18/99 4:36:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, > 2814823733@home.com writes: > > << (The FSM article, by the way, was scratchbuilding a 1/48 LVG, and it > contains an excellent, well-illustrated, description of how to skin wing > cores; I won't need to pester you about this ever again, Shane.)>> > > same issue, give a look at center left page 63........... > > <> > > Don't know them guys....uh......I kept hoping the Boelcke thing would > disappear! (I was young) > ROBERT K. > > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > Return-Path: > Received: from rly-ya01.mx.aol.com (rly-ya01.mail.aol.com [172. >> > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:59:51 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: WWI model Message-ID: <199901190259.SAA21193@spare.rapidnet.net> > Am I missing something here? I see a photo of RK's BE2c 4112, but nothing > about Boelcke > > Bob >> > > Oh well, my skeleton will tumble out of the closet- my first ever published > model thingy was a horrible scratchbuilt Boelcke in the v3 n1 Jan-Feb85 FSM. > Robert K. SCANS, we want SCANS .... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:14:04 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: C&CI Help Message-ID: <19990118.211522.-853871.3.mbittner@juno.com> A fellow modeler is looking for Vol 26 No 2 - the issue with the Lighter info in it. Could someone please photocopy the article - and plans - for me to send to this individual? TIA! Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:09:02 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The Skull Collection Message-ID: <7e9731ac.36a3f74e@aol.com> In a message dated 1/18/99 7:05:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, JohnGlaser@worldnet.att.net writes: << A great story from a great American humorist - Jean Shepard. >> And to bring it back sorta kinda vaguely on-topic, I seem to remember a tin toy Zeppelin under the tree. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:20:16 EST From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: C&CI Help Message-ID: Hi Matt Will do, I'll copy em tomorrow & send em off. Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:12:59 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Very off-topic (1950s cars) Message-ID: <199901190312.TAA21303@spare.rapidnet.net> Greetings all, I have just been drafted by the local theatre company to do some scenic airbrushing ... or more exactly . ...... > I'm interested to know if you would be interested in working in the "Leader of the Pack" > project. We need some one to paint "3 car front end cutouts" (front view from straight > on) Medium- latex on cardboard cut out. Circa 56-61 any make or model will do. as long > as one is a Chevy Belaire. As I know nothing at all about cars can anyone help? thanks, Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:27:20 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The Skull Collection Message-ID: <36A3FB98.6339@bellsouth.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > And to bring it back sorta kinda vaguely on-topic, I seem to remember a tin > toy Zeppelin under the tree. A Zeppelin with wheels! Not to mention Ralph's buddy who went around wearing flying hat and goggles. E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:22:45 EST From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Eduard Stuff Message-ID: "There's also a listing for an upcoming Dr1 and Albatros DV in 1:72." A good Albatos DV in 1/72nd... if they are not expensive, I could buy a dozen or so...well, maybe enough to do Jasta 5 in its entirety. Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:29:28 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Very off-topic (1950s cars) Message-ID: <36A3FC18.4C47@bellsouth.net> Bob Pearson wrote: > As I know nothing at all about cars can anyone help? > Big metal things, 4 wheels, often operated by idiots. Hth, E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:31:45 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: WWI model Message-ID: <003c01be435c$3f2fc4e0$267433cf@Pvosburg> -----Original Message----- From: D. Anderson <2814823733@home.com> Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 9:00 PM Subject: RE: WWI model <<>> >I also came across an old FSM photo of a real character, who sometimes >appears on this list. Bob Kerr, Wob Kweer, or something ;-) > >Nice job on Boelcke, Bob. > >Dane ...and I get the biggest kick now out of seeing "Joltin' Josie" on the cover whenever I'm pawing through my stack of old FSMs! DV ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:35:01 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: New Eduard Stuff Message-ID: James > "There's also a listing for an upcoming Dr1 and Albatros > DV in 1:72." > > A good Albatos DV in 1/72nd... if they are not > expensive, I could buy a > dozen or so...well, maybe enough to do Jasta 5 in its entirety. Mmm. That'll take about 30 IIRC. Then you can go out and research the NON Albatros machines of Jasta 5 and really start a project ! Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:36:35 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: New Eduard Stuff Message-ID: Rick says: > For instance this summer there should be a 1:48 > Pfalz DIIIa (new tooling). One conversion I won't need to make. > For 2000 they're listing a Camel and an SE5a. > There's also a listing for an upcoming Dr1 and Albatros DV in 1:72. Is > this the golden age for us wwi types or what? Now I understand Chris Gannons rush. Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:39:31 -0500 From: "sharon Henderson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Very off-topic (1950s cars) Message-ID: <9901182239.AA31284@ft.sumter> > Bob Pearson wrote: > > > As I know nothing at all about cars can anyone help? > > > Big metal things, 4 wheels, often operated by idiots. > Hth, > E. 1956 BelAir. BEST most bitchin' car ever.... My brother had seven of them in various pieces in the back yard when we were teenagers, and by the time he finished robbing Peter to pay Paul, he had one perfectly restored 1:1 scale working model. :-) Color scheme: Black and white exterior, quarter fins to die for, and bright red upholstery inside. Red steering wheel. Hardtop. BITCHIN' car.... He sold it. To someone other than the sister born the same year as the car. Creep.... :-) I may have pics somewhere. Cheers, Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:33:50 -0600 From: "Bill Ciciora" To: Subject: Re: G-8 and his Battle Aces Message-ID: <199901190433.WAA06139@kajiki.wwa.com> No Pendragons or Iron Eagles in the G-8 story listings, but quite a few other superhuman foes: http://www.vintagelibrary.com/pulp/g8/ Bill Ciciora ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:58:26 -0800 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Museum Report Message-ID: <36A410F2.A8A5A9EC@mars.ark.com> I have seen these off Ebay for around $60US each. (in good shape) Ebay seems to have deals on them as they go for about $30 usually. -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:56:52 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The Skull Collection Message-ID: <36A4B954.52AA@ricochet.net> Robert Woodbury wrote: > > > > 100 watts of electric sex in the living room window. > > > > > > Ummm, did I miss something here? The reference is to one of the most rebroadcast holiday season films ever: "A Christmas Story" starring a child (who's name escapes me) in the lead role, and Darrin McGavin as his father. This one has been very popular in the states for around a decade. FWIW, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:59:20 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Museum Report & Harleyford books Message-ID: <6df21950.36a41128@aol.com> In a message dated 1/18/99 John Glaser enquired: << Does anyone have a non-Ebay price fix on the three volume set of Great War Aircraft? They are fighters, bombers/reconnaissance and maritime. Would be a nice addition to my growing library. >> There are the three you mentioned, and also an Air Aces volume and "Aircraft of the 1914-18 War" volume, and others (including Markings and the MvR's Flying Circus book). Prices are tricky - the fighters volume has been sold a few times on ebay, which doesnt interest you, and the bombers/recon and maritime ones do not appear often - anywhere. I obtained my copies as part of a larger collection that I purchased, so I cannot tell you how much they would have gone for individually. Fighters sold on ebay a couple of days ago for $53, and for $31 in November. Marine aircraft sold for $128 (Yikes!) A posting to the list last year suggested that the Bombers and Marine books start around $100, and that was in a non-ebay context. The same person (sorry - I didnt note the author) pointed out that these drawings are over 30 years old so some of them may well have been surpassed in quality and accuracy since. Some of these (at least the Fighters one, perhaps others too) were also reprinted in a softcover version. I have both and, as my others are all hardcover, will be selling the softcover in a week or two (will offer to the list first so you wont miss it). I believe the Fighters one is the most common of the lot. Hope this helps - I am sure Uncle Sniffy can add a lot more.... Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:19:13 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: C&C Project Butterfly/5-color French Camo Message-ID: <36A4BE91.1D7A@ricochet.net> Shane Weier wrote: > I haven't asked for list library stuff before, but is there some > way I could get a copy of *just* the Butterfly materials. (for purpose > of fair useage for the purpose of research under various acts and > statutes etc.) I've finally made your copy of all three parts of the Project Butterfly articles. > > I may need to figure a way to pay Roryrororrory for dopy and postage > though. Any ideas? I'll assume "dopy" was a typo for copy rather than dopey. Anyhow, although I tried for double-sided copies, it just didn't happen, so you have 88 pages that have to be sent. If you wish, I can mail 'em, get a total for you and perhaps you have a kit, Windsock duplicates, or other items of low specific gravity that could economically take a slow boat to the States. Or, you could just order something from Rollmodels, Sopwith Hobbies, Squadron catalog and have 'em send it to me? I can always use more Aeroclub bits...or is this a squirrelly idea? Let me know what you think. Riordan > > Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:38:58 -0700 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Eduard Stuff Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990118223858.006f94e0@mail> At 09:03 PM 18/01/99 -0500, you wrote: >Maybe some of you know this already, but if not check out the advanced >bookings page at Hannants site. They list some really great upcoming >aircraft from Eduard. For instance this summer there should be a 1:48 >Pfalz DIIIa (new tooling). For 2000 they're listing a Camel and an SE5a. >There's also a listing for an upcoming Dr1 and Albatros DV in 1:72. Is >this the golden age for us wwi types or what? >Rick Milas > > Well, it could be worse. Dane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:42:22 -0700 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: New Eduard Stuff Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990118224222.006fc22c@mail> At 10:36 PM 18/01/99 -0500, you wrote: >Rick says: > >> For instance this summer there should be a 1:48 >> Pfalz DIIIa (new tooling). > >One conversion I won't need to make. > >> For 2000 they're listing a Camel and an SE5a. >> There's also a listing for an upcoming Dr1 and Albatros DV in 1:72. Is >> this the golden age for us wwi types or what? > >Now I understand Chris Gannons rush. > >Shane > Well, I bought his Roland C.II, even though Eduard is supposed to do one as well, so maybe I should get off my kiester and buy a BM Camel. That is, if I can find out whether I have a bloody job or not soon. Dane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:45:19 -0700 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI model Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990118224519.00701150@mail> At 09:26 PM 18/01/99 -0500, you wrote: > > >> same issue, give a look at center left page 63........... >> >> <> >> >> Don't know them guys....uh......I kept hoping the Boelcke thing would >> disappear! (I was young) >> ROBERT K. > >Am I missing something here? I see a photo of RK's BE2c 4112, but nothing >about Boelcke > >Bob > Yeah, I forgot that one too. Didn't Robert use clear styrene or something for that one? Oh, the Boelcke project is not in that issue, but in an even earlier issue from 1985 or 1986. Really neat. Dane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:54:47 -0700 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: WWI model Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990118225447.00700bf0@mail> At 08:27 PM 18/01/99 -0500, you wrote: >Dane, > >> (The FSM article, by the way, was scratchbuilding a 1/48 LVG, and it >> contains an excellent, well-illustrated, description of how >> to skin wing cores; I won't need to pester you about this ever again, >Shane.) >> > >The article appeared in November 1990 for those without an index to their >old magazines. > >I just received the LVG C.VI Datafile reprint last week, and admit that it >had me contemplating a scratchbuild of THAT instead of a Caproni or >whatever. I thought of using real wood veneers and even spent a little while >seeing if I could match the contours before deciding that I had already had >enough weird ideas without trying to live them > >Shane > I agree Shane. The LVG looked really swank, and you wouldn't even have to spray the lozenge through frisket like Ray-ray did. Much better than scratchbuilding an airplane that should be available in kit form anyway in the not-to-distant future. Here's one for a laugh though. I have actually been contemplating, for my first attempt at a scratchbuild, scratchbuilding the SE-5a in 1/72. It's so hard, it seems, to find the Revell kit, and I already have plans, could get really tough stuff to scratcbuild like m.g.s, propellor, and wheels from Aeroclub, and well, you have to start somewhere. Besides, it's 1/72--who cares what they look like when you're done, eh Matt? Dane ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1400 **********************