WWI Digest 1381 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Bob Pearson's Profile Pages by "Sharon Henderson" 2) Re: GRUMMAN F3F AND ACCURATE MINIATURES by "David R.L. Laws" 3) RE: stokin RK's fire, was Re: GRUMMAN F3F... by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> 4) Re: WWI model - MOVING CONTROL SURFACES by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> 5) Re: stokin RK's fire, was Re: GRUMMAN F3F... by Ernest Thomas 6) Re: Cocked hats/Halbritter's Arms Through the ages by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 7) Re: decaling wings was: Rib Tapes? by "Richard Caudron" 8) Re: Cocked hats/Halbritter's Arms Through the ages by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 9) Re: GRUMMAN F3F AND ACCURATE MINIATURES by "Richard Caudron" 10) Re: WWI model by "Richard Caudron" 11) Re: Model Pics by "Richard Caudron" 12) RE: Albatros (OEF) D.III ser 53 by "Diego Fernetti" 13) Mr Pearson is back in the building by Bob Pearson 14) RE: decaling wings was: Rib Tapes? by "Diego Fernetti" 15) Re: WWI model by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 16) Re: Huggins Site! by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 17) Re: GRUMMAN F3F AND ACCURATE MINIATURES by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 18) Re: Albatros (OEF) D.III ser 53 by "Sandy Adam" 19) SAMI vs SMI by "Sandy Adam" 20) Re: Albatros (OEF) D.III ser 53 by "Sandy Adam" 21) Re: WWI model by "Sandy Adam" 22) Re: Cocked hats/Halbritter's Arms Through the ages by "Sandy Adam" 23) Off-topic request for AAHS members by Suvoroff@aol.com 24) by Yves Buffetaut 25) Re: WWI model by Ernest Thomas 26) Re: Rib Tapes ? by "David R.L. Laws" 27) Re: GRUMMAN F3F AND ACCURATE MINIATURES by "K. Hagerup" 28) Re: Cocked hats/Halbritter's Arms Through the ages by mkendix 29) Re: model magazines by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 30) Re: model magazines by "Sandy Adam" 31) Re: Cocked hats/Halbritter's Arms Through the ages by "Sandy Adam" 32) Re: Cocked hats/Halbritter's Arms Through the ages by "Brad Gossen" 33) Re: WWI model by "Brad Gossen" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:32:41 -0500 From: "Sharon Henderson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Bob Pearson's Profile Pages Message-ID: <9901130032.AA41518@ft.sumter> > I have Bob's page listed as one of my bookmarks and refer to it often. > I understand he added some new profiles recently. However, all of > a sudden I am not aable to access it. I get a message that the > server can't find it or something like that. Anyone else having > problems getting Bob's page? Rick Hi Rick, Bob's ISP had major internetdigestion today; he can't do mail and his web-site is similarly offline. Hopefully he'll be back soon! Sharon in Fairfax ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:59:14 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: GRUMMAN F3F AND ACCURATE MINIATURES Message-ID: <369CC2D2.2A21@webtime.com.au> Robert Confused bunny here - well at least that's better than " fruity " - Well I think it is ... still confused I suppose Thanks for the note re Plaster mixes - I was contemplating following John Alcorn's lead ... 'til I priced resins and the like - If plaster works it might be worth taking the next step As to appearance ... JPEG available off list on request @128k David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:45:43 -0700 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: stokin RK's fire, was Re: GRUMMAN F3F... Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990112224543.006fa2cc@mail> At 12:24 AM 13/01/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Ernest the Heretic > aka Ernest the Swine said: > >> And here I sit looking over two fuselage halves rubberbanded? >> around the cockpit bits, looking all square and tight and perrty... >> SweeeeEEEeeeet!!! >> E. >> the voice of temtation /%] >> > >Rats. And mine sits beside two part built D.V, stalled in honour of a >personal rule which states "thou shalt bloody well finish something before >you start any more models" Geez! What a weirdo! Next thing, you'll be telling us you don't use one credit card to pay off another. Dane >Shane >:-( sob > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:46:51 -0700 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI model - MOVING CONTROL SURFACES Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990112224651.006fb61c@mail> At 11:54 PM 12/01/99 -0500, you wrote: >In a message dated 1/12/99 4:20:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, >laws@webtime.com.au writes: > ><< I positively pored, drooled and doted over that absolutely magnificent > Alb D Va by Alan Clark ( Scale Models International October 1990 - a > truely magnificent piece of craftsmanship >> > >Break this man's fingers! That is a doozy of a model. >RK > He sure solved the problem of simulating the plywood finish. Just use plywood! Dane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:50:01 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: stokin RK's fire, was Re: GRUMMAN F3F... Message-ID: <369C3409.4D7B@bellsouth.net> Shane Weier wrote: > > Ernest the Heretic > aka Ernest the Swine said: That's MR. Swine to you! E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:08:48 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cocked hats/Halbritter's Arms Through the ages Message-ID: <369CE130.6801@ricochet.net> D. Anderson wrote: > > "Beat into a cocked hat?" > > I will have to write this down. Wonderful idiom. If you liked that, you must track down a copy of "Halbritter's Arms Through the Ages". Quite possibly the silliest book on militaria ever published. Don't know what ever happened to my copy. Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:15:19 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: Re: decaling wings was: Rib Tapes? Message-ID: <199901130715.HAA76880@out5.ibm.net> Please, never put any decals on a flat surface, because, when you look very closely (microscope ...), a flat surface concist in a lot of sharps, which means that your declas can not follow exactly the surface, and that air will stay under. This provides reflection, and you will always see that it was a decal, and not painted. If you spray first a clear varnish, you will fill the gaps between the sharps, and your decals will be really vlose to the surface, without any reflection. And, if afterwards you spray a new clear varnish overall, the effect will be wonderfull. It will be like a drawining between two glasses. Once done, feel free to spary a matt varnish ... A lot of books describe this method in a more standard english than mine. Cheers, Richard Caudron Mobile (+32) (0) 75 42 05 01 ---------- > From: Diego Fernetti > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: decaling wings was: Rib Tapes? > Date: dinsdag 12 januari 1999 16:57 > > >Or you could do as I (wastefully) did. Cut tapes of *clear* decal :-) > > > >Shane > > > > When I read this, a question from long ago surfaced on my mind. I apologize > in advance if this has been discussed before I joined the list. The question > is: Which way is better: to apply lozenge, rib tapes and crosses decals > directly over the wing or to apply them over a clear decal cut to shape and > then apply this over the wing? The first option is a more direct approach > than the second, but decaling on a flat surface seems pretty easier than > over the rib detail. > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:16:45 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cocked hats/Halbritter's Arms Through the ages Message-ID: <199901130716.XAA19458@compass.OregonVOS.net> Riordan writes: >D. Anderson wrote: >> >> "Beat into a cocked hat?" >> >> I will have to write this down. Wonderful idiom. > >If you liked that, you must track down a copy of "Halbritter's Arms >Through the Ages". Quite possibly the silliest book on militaria ever >published. Don't know what ever happened to my copy. Ahem (he said while straying far off topic but indulging another of his interests), the phrase is actually, "knocked into a cocked hat". Or, to quote John Ciardi on the subject, "To be knocked into a cocked hat" To be left in a difficult situtation. The original reference was to bowling and to the situation when the first ball leaves the three point pins of the triangle standing, a split in the shape of the cocked (tricorn) hat. It is possible to score a spare from such a split but don't bet on it unless you are contemplating vows of poverty." Now, I have some problems with John's etymology of this phrase but I'll take it until something better comes along. We now return you to your regular programing. Cheers, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:21:25 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: Re: GRUMMAN F3F AND ACCURATE MINIATURES Message-ID: <199901130721.HAA65556@out5.ibm.net> The conversion from a DH4 in DH9 has been produced by EXPO Models, and the civilian version including a rear cabin is produced in resin by Frank Modellbau Cheers, Richard Caudron Mobile (+32) (0) 75 42 05 01 ---------- > From: David R.L. Laws > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: GRUMMAN F3F AND ACCURATE MINIATURES > Date: woensdag 13 januari 1999 0:26 > > For those interested in the Golden Years period - below a short note > from accurate miniatures concerning their anticipated release date for > this kit > > I have raised the idea of a Sparrowhawk and a DH 4/ 4(liberty) 9 and 9A > with them too - The latter being on topic I thought you'd be interested > esp with the new DH 9 data file now released - > > I'm frankly surprised no one has done a moulding offering all 4 versions > of the DH 4 thro to 9A > > Seems it would be fairly simple to getting up a moulding covering the > basics ( wings, rear fuselage and empennage ) and with some clever > engineering, to produce seperate mouldings for the forward fuselage > sections ( plus engine ) thus giving options for 4 very different > aircraft offerring a real wealth of decaling and painting options too - > What about that experimental concentric circle camoflage !!! > > > Anyway - the email's there if anyone wishes to make suggestions - they > seem a really decent crowd and their product is excellent ! > > "Dave S. Mauldwin, Jr." > To: > > > > Dear David, > > Thanks for the note. We have Okayed the F3F for production and it is > next inline for release. We don't have an exact date (do we ever?) But > expect to see it around the middle of the year. Our best kit. (his > humble opinion). > > > Bill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:22:40 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: Re: WWI model Message-ID: <199901130722.HAA157076@out5.ibm.net> Never seen Windsock Magazine produced by Albatross Productions ? Richard Caudron Mobile (+32) (0) 75 42 05 01 ---------- > From: Sandy Adam > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: WWI model > Date: woensdag 13 januari 1999 0:32 > > > Scale Models (Now Scale Models International). At the time, and still, > the > > best of the mainstream model magazines in term of WW1 content, both > volume > > and quality. > > Have you looked at SAMI recently - I think it regularly beats SMI into a > cocked hat for WW1 aviation. > Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:36:46 +0100 From: "Richard Caudron" To: Subject: Re: Model Pics Message-ID: <199901130737.HAA126946@out5.ibm.net> Dear John, Two kinds of Congratulations : First of all for you two superbs models. I just finished the MPM W29, and I can Imagine the work done on your Pegasus. Great ! and last but not least, your web site !!! Wonderfull idea. For sure, I will visit it from time to time, just to leave you a few days between two models. Cheers, Richard Caudron Mobile (+32) (0) 75 42 05 01 ---------- > From: John Huggins > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Model Pics > Date: dinsdag 12 januari 1999 11:15 > > Good day folks > If you would like to take a look at some of my handy work, drop by > http://rampages.onramp.net/~huggins/ . I will be adding different > pictures from time to time. Some will be on topic, some won't. I am > starting out with the Pegasus HB 29 and the ESCI Fokker D VII. > > > Enjoy > John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:20:22 -0200 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Albatros (OEF) D.III ser 53 Message-ID: <006901be3ed5$f321fe40$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> >Check page 42 of the Squadron/Signal Albatros Fighters in Action >This book has, I think, recently been reprinted so, if you don't have >one, it should be obtainable at one of the "usual sources". > Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org > > "Cave ab homine unius librum." > Indeed. I bought mine two months ago from squadron mail order. The contents aren't as exhaustive as the datafiles but is a nice (and not too expensive) addition to the WW1 library. D. PS: I think that the first edition was in 1981. I don't know if the contents were revised. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:15:18 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Mr Pearson is back in the building Message-ID: <199901131015.CAA07323@spare.rapidnet.net> Greetings all, As Chris mentioned my ISP had a major crash in the past two days and one of their servers is kaput . . sadly my email and website were on this one. Hopefully the site can be retrieved, otherwise I will have to put it all back up once again. Regards, Bob Pearson Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:38:09 -0200 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: decaling wings was: Rib Tapes? Message-ID: <00a001be3ed8$6eb58340$4640a8c0@prens-001.ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> -----Mensaje original----- De: Richard Caudron Para: Multiple recipients of list Fecha: Miércoles 13 de Enero de 1999 5:23 AM Asunto: Re: decaling wings was: Rib Tapes? >Please, never put any decals on a flat surface, because, when you look very >closely (microscope ...), a flat surface concist in a lot of sharps, which >means that your declas can not follow exactly the surface, and that air >will stay under. This provides reflection, and you will always see that it >was a decal, and not painted. >If you spray first a clear varnish, you will fill the gaps between the >sharps, and your decals will be really vlose to the surface, without any >reflection. >And, if afterwards you spray a new clear varnish overall, the effect will >be wonderfull. It will be like a drawining between two glasses. >Once done, feel free to spary a matt varnish ... >A lot of books describe this method in a more standard english than mine. >Cheers, >Richard Caudron >Mobile (+32) (0) 75 42 05 01 Richard: The tip is OK. But I think I didn't explain myself well. When I wrote flat, I meant a plain surface, for example, the clear decal with backing paper tacked on the surface of the table. I didn't refer to the finish of the surface. Sorry for my poor english. D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:49:33 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI model Message-ID: <19990113.045615.-821491.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:46:16 -0500 (EST) "David Vosburgh" writes: >Now wait just a minute! Let's throw him in the water first, and if he >floats, that must mean he weighs less than a duck, and if he weighs >less >than a duck, that means... But what about the tiny rocks? ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:48:45 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Huggins Site! Message-ID: <19990113.045615.-821491.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:10:39 -0500 (EST) Shane Weier writes: >IIRC I have a set made by Blue Rider with this aircraft in 1/48 and a >HUGE >decal to wallpaper the top wing as John has just described. It may >also be >available in 1/72, if these sheets ARE still available Correct. I just looked at the 1/72nd sheet, and they're exactly as John says about Almark in his message. Matt Bittner nb: Putting the last wires on the MoS Type I - woo hoo!! ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:50:41 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: GRUMMAN F3F AND ACCURATE MINIATURES Message-ID: <19990113.045615.-821491.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:28:21 -0500 (EST) bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) writes: >Aeroclub does vacforms because vacforms are cheaper over a mid-sized >production run. But copyright laws would prevent you from taking >molds off someone else's kit for anything other than yer own use >so unless you are anticipating building entire squadrons of these >things yourself, your "production run" is going to be quite limited >indeed. Unless you're Eldon and alter certain items just a little...;-) Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:10:57 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Albatros (OEF) D.III ser 53 Message-ID: <199901131054.KAA15694@beryl.sol.co.uk> > I am *contemplating* converting the Eduard D.III into this version - and > maybe the 153 as well... Sounds great Shane - I have a long term wish to build the whole Albatros Series but I intend to get the Blue Max OEF kit, when it comes, which will have alternative bits for 53, 153 & 253 series. Of course you may want to move more quickly, but I'm hoping we'll get enough bits in one BM kit, to combine with two Eduard D.IIIs to make all models. I think BM is one of the most reliable makers, in that Chris is able to get his new kits to market quickly as announced and doesn't change priorities in mid-stream. Thus I fully expect the new SE in the Spring, then the two Sopwiths over Summer/Autumn and then the OEF end of year. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:49:20 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: SAMI vs SMI Message-ID: <199901131054.KAA15691@beryl.sol.co.uk> > The issues we get must be different from those you get. ;-) Must be, Shane. All those who know both mags should stop here. The rest is only for anybody who may not know either and might want a balanced view of what to try. I have both January issues in front of me. SMI (56 pages, bw & colour) is a typical issue with a WitW-type feature on the Anatra. You get a nice big side-view in colour of a nondescript Czech Anasal and a silhouette side view below that proclaims 1/48 scale. Beside that is a top and front view in some other scale (1/72?) which chops off the wheels from the front. Attached to this is a poor article on two not-very-well-made models by Joel Christy - who elsewhere tells you how to polish up your F-15 to a mirror gloss. JC did the TC Vimy build recently which did not impress much either (slack wires). That's about it for WWI apart from a small SPAD photo and a couple of Nats pics. January SAvMI (80 pages, all colour) has a front page feature on "WWI Wings" which may be an unfair comparison - but I don't think so, as WWI has been more and more evident in SAMI recently. Big colour pics and build article (1st in a new series) by Rod Holland on the Flashback MS-I (poor paint job on wing/fuselage join - but great base). Superb Harry Woodman article on Roland C.II. 7-page in-depth Caruana article on Bristol Fighter, with good extensive plans (- including the elevator hinge points which I remember you could not find when building your own Brisfit, Shane!). Elsewhere lots of WWI DF, kit reviews and ads - Bob Gold's of the CSM Pfalz D.XII is a good detailed review of a poor kit. To me - IMHO - SMI is always full of big (simple) bike models - uuuuugh! Big unbelievably expensive cruddy tanks - double uuuugh! Jets, jets, jets, and more jets. And sometimes a three page slot for the excellent Paul Monteagle to procalim the One True Faith. I now only buy the occasional issue. SAMI used to be just pages of pics of brass frets and decals but is improving all the time. It now promotes WWI increasingly and would be my first High Street mag recommendation FWIW for the tyro WWI modeller Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:14:29 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Albatros (OEF) D.III ser 53 Message-ID: <199901131054.KAA15697@beryl.sol.co.uk> > Which one David? The one which also covers the Ballila (?) and others? Or > the JaPo book everyone is talking about but which I haven't seen yet :-( Hi again Shane - I seem to be replying to you all the time this morning. There are scans of some of the JaPo artwork on Hannants web page - I gave the URL last time I posted this, I haven't got it handy here but search should find it. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:37:46 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: WWI model Message-ID: <199901131054.KAA15700@beryl.sol.co.uk> > Never seen Windsock Magazine produced by Albatross Productions ? > Richard Caudron Indeed Richard, and I have nearly every issue - but it is unfortunately not a High Street mag - ie generally available in newsagents in every town - which is what we were comparing. No disagreement from me that WS is best WWI mag around, but the tyro modeller probably won't buy it for starters - even if he can find it - until he has developed a taste for WWI. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:54:29 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Cocked hats/Halbritter's Arms Through the ages Message-ID: <199901131054.KAA15703@beryl.sol.co.uk> > Ahem (he said while straying far off topic but indulging another of his > interests), the phrase is actually, "knocked into a cocked hat". No you're wrong. The phrase I used was "beat into a cocked hat". If you re-read the original message you will understand why. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 06:18:25 EST From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Off-topic request for AAHS members Message-ID: Do we have any AAHS members? If so, can I get a copy of an article from the AAHS journal, vol. 43 no. 4 Winter 1998? I will be glad to pay copying and mailing costs. Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:18:58 +0200 From: Yves Buffetaut To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Message-ID: <369C7311.59E@club-internet.fr> SUBSCRIBE ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 06:20:26 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI model Message-ID: <369C8F8A.4437@bellsouth.net> Matthew E Bittner wrote: > >Now wait just a minute! Let's throw him in the water first, and if he > >floats, that must mean he weighs less than a duck, and if he weighs > >less > >than a duck, that means... > > But what about the tiny rocks? > > BUILD A BRIDGE OUT OF HIM! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:40:50 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rib Tapes ? Message-ID: <369D20F2.326F@webtime.com.au> I have found the Scale models photograph of the pranged Alb W-4 It's Feb '73 page 77 at bottom r/h corner The view is of 3 colour hex - Hex " flats " are running ... 1. on the wings ... parallel with the leading edge 2. on the tail ... parallel with the ribs Possible solid colour ( dark ) rib tapes on the upper surface of the wings light solid colour rib tapes appear to be in place on lower wing surfaces Only the elevator visible on the tail/ empennage Two Bob's worth from Oz regards david A more experienced eye mioght be able able to give a better view of this photograph ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:37:15 -0600 From: "K. Hagerup" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: GRUMMAN F3F AND ACCURATE MINIATURES Message-ID: <369CA18B.589D@prodigy.net> Matthew E Bittner wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:28:21 -0500 (EST) bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill > Shatzer) writes: > > >Aeroclub does vacforms because vacforms are cheaper over a mid-sized > >production run. But copyright laws would prevent you from taking > >molds off someone else's kit for anything other than yer own use > >so unless you are anticipating building entire squadrons of these > >things yourself, your "production run" is going to be quite limited > >indeed. > > Unless you're Eldon and alter certain items just a little...;-) Or Flashback. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:44:52 -0500 (EST) From: mkendix To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cocked hats/Halbritter's Arms Through the ages Message-ID: At some point in time, Sandy Adam wrote: > "Beat into a cocked hat?" "Back home" (Edgware - on the Northern Line, Middlesex) we always used to say "Knocked into a cocked hat" but this could simply be a regional variation on a scheme, since Sandy lives in Scotland (right?). Michael mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:55:04 -0800 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: WW1 posts Subject: Re: model magazines Message-ID: <369DB0E8.FD849BC2@tac.com.au> > From: Shane Weier > Subject: RE: WWI model > > Riordan complains: > > > My biggest problem (aside from the price) with SMI's Wind in the Wires is that Paul Monteagle (and > >whoever else contributes) refuses to even attempt to rig the very nice, expensive models from the likes of > >BM, Pegasus, Waldo Resins et al. > > This annoys me too, and the excuse that he doesn't have time to do it and still meet publication deadlines >doesn't cut it (says he who has refused to do reviews because he can't meet deadlines at all) > > OTOH the rigging is th esingle biggest fear for most who'd like to build a WW1 model but won't. Showing how >attractive they can be unrigged is at least a hook to help draw newbies into our unrelenting clutches :-) > > > Not to be too harsh on the old boy, but we seem to have a pearls before swine situation, wasting nice kits >on a slacker. If he's too lazy to do it, > > Doesn't he paint covers for Windsock Datafiles etc. in his free time? Must have too much of it > > > revoke his free on-topic building priveledges, get someone else to do it right. > > YEAH ! BURN HIM ! I'm jealous too. I want free kits ;-) > > > Let him build WWII and Cold Warriors if he's not into the strings of the stringbags. > > Now *that* is cruel and cold. The weather must be getting to you ! > > Shane Hi gang, "stepping up onto the soapbox Riordan slipped off" I've been following this thread with interest as SMI is AFAIC the best "general modelling mag" around. I have about 50-60% of the issues & the early issues really make today's mags pale into insignificance, when comparing them. Now to get to the topic in hand. So what if Paul Monteagle doesn't rig his aircraft, the job of the Wind in the Wires column AFAIK, is to review the kits, not add to them. I agree with Shane (the Elder), in that at least they're being shown in a mainstream mag & may hook them in. Rigging anything from ships to WW1 aircraft does make the model look better, but may not appeal to all modellers. That's where the specialist mags like Plastic Ship Modeller, Windsock, SAM, SAMI, etc come in. In regards to rigging, I've yet to rig any of my models because a)too scared, b) too scared & c)too busy on the net reading SMML, WW1 list, rms & modelling sites :-). stumbling off soapbox Side-stepping into another magazine thread, Lorna has recently taken on the editorship of APMA's magazine & one of the perks of that position is now we are looking after the club's exchange magazines, which include WW1 Aero, Chine Lines, IPMS(UK), IPMS(US) & other mags. I'll be indexing these in the near future & hopefully we'll be able to offer indexes & references from this to the list. All the best Shane, aka Shane the Younger aka Mr Lorna BTW, we're from Gorokan, Shane the elder lives in Brisbane. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:56:44 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: model magazines Message-ID: <199901131455.OAA25841@beryl.sol.co.uk> > I've been following this thread with interest as SMI is AFAIC the best > "general modelling mag" around. I have about 50-60% of the issues & the > early issues really make today's mags pale into insignificance, when > comparing them. No question SM used to be excellent - Hell, I used to be a contributor myself. Used to pay well too! - but I have no interest whatsoever in Donorcycles (my wife works in Intensive Care in Perth Hospital - that's what they call big bikes!), Tanks, Big Lorries, SF or diecasts - that usually accounts for about 80-90% of SMI. But if that mix appeals to you - go for it! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:46:11 -0800 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Cocked hats/Halbritter's Arms Through the ages Message-ID: <199901131455.OAA25838@beryl.sol.co.uk> I'm sure we are all totally fed up with this theme and have beaten it into a submissive cocked hat and knocked it into the middle of next week by now - let get back on topic and concentrate on Halbritter - and his equally gripping companion title "Legs Through the Ages". Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:28:56 -0500 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: Cocked hats/Halbritter's Arms Through the ages Message-ID: <199901131535.KAA04196@mail5.globalserve.net> Sandy wrote: ...'and his equally gripping companion title "Legs Through the Ages". Ach! The Pearson Family History! Brad ---------- > From: Sandy Adam > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Cocked hats/Halbritter's Arms Through the ages > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 9:55 AM > > I'm sure we are all totally fed up with this theme and have beaten it into > a submissive cocked hat and knocked it into the middle of next week by now > - let get back on topic and concentrate on Halbritter - and his equally > gripping companion title "Legs Through the Ages". > Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:47:09 -0500 From: "Brad Gossen" To: Subject: Re: WWI model Message-ID: <199901131553.KAA05110@mail5.globalserve.net> OY! He turned me into a NEWT!!!......... I got better. Or was it a TF2. Salamander? BG ---------- > From: David Vosburgh > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: WWI model > Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 10:46 PM > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shane Weier > Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 11:06 PM > Subject: RE: WWI model > > > >>>YEAH ! BURN HIM ! I'm jealous too...>>> > > Now wait just a minute! Let's throw him in the water first, and if he > floats, that must mean he weighs less than a duck, and if he weighs less > than a duck, that means... > > DV ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1381 **********************