WWI Digest 1372 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: 1/144th scale troubles... by Kevin Wenker 2) Re: Asian SEX Girl Pictures a day !! by Dave Watts 3) Re: Windsock by KarrArt@aol.com 4) Re: Asian SEX Girl Pictures a day !! by KarrArt@aol.com 5) Alb DVa:? by Matthew Zivich 6) RE: Check this Profile by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 7) RE: RMS Olympic Part 2 by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 8) RE: 1/144th scale troubles... by "John C Glaser" 9) Re: thanks by John & Allison Cyganowski 10) Re: Asian SEX Girl Pictures a day !! by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 11) Re: critters wasRe: Model RR shops wasRe: Model Ts by KarrArt@aol.com 12) Re: Asian SEX Girl Pictures a day !! by Crofoot 13) Off Topic Trade Offer by Modelhound@aol.com 14) Re: Asian SEX Girl Pictures a day !! by John & Allison Cyganowski 15) Re: Off Topic Trade Offer by Mike Dicianna 16) Re: thanks by mkendix 17) Re: Alb DVa:? by Fernando Lamas 18) Re:Engine masking by bucky@ptdprolog.net 19) Re: Engine masking by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 20) Re:Engine masking by Dennis Ugulano 21) RE: Model RR shops wasRe: Model Ts by David Kinnear 22) Re:Engine masking by David Kinnear 23) Re: Engine masking by John & Allison Cyganowski 24) Re: thanks by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 25) Model T Info by "David Vosburgh" 26) Re:Engine masking by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 27) flap thingys wasRe: thanks by KarrArt@aol.com 28) Re: Model T Info by KarrArt@aol.com 29) Re: Model T Info by Ernest Thomas 30) Re:Engine masking by "Peter Crow" 31) Re:Engine masking by Rick Milas 32) Re: Model T Info by "David Vosburgh" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 11:32:35 -0600 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/144th scale troubles... Message-ID: <36964132.35EB@interaccess.com> Suvoroff@aol.com wrote: > > "I have a bunch of 1/144 wheels from the WWI planes I've built for > wargaming (I > forget the name of the company - from England) - leftovers, that is - if you > would > like a few, email me your address." > > Those would be Skytrex. Two questions, > 1) Are they actually round? Skytrex does not always do the best moulding. > 2) How do you get leftover wheels? Doing the hypersecret Fokker D.VII bis > with the retractable landing gear? > > Yours, > James D. Gray Well, they are mostly round . And, I happened to have dropped a couple planes while building - one of which I stepped on, one of which my wife stepped on. The hypersecret Fokker is still in the building stage. Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 12:55:34 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Asian SEX Girl Pictures a day !! Message-ID: <199901081803.NAA07855@sam.on-net.net> I know that many on the list are interested in Asian models, but I think this is a bit much. ;-) Best, Dave Watts ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:14:21 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Windsock Message-ID: <9c4f8e46.36964afd@aol.com> In a message dated 1/8/99 3:55:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, Janah@worldnet.att.net writes: << > << Any review of the Eduard Albatros D.III? > > Cyg? > >> > > Nope, not yet. BTW, I'm about ready to just dump the rest of my life so I can > get on with the D II conversion! > Robert K. I love it! Tom Cleaver is working on his for Internet Modeler. Cyg. >> Yeah, I know- I may have to do the earlier and larger gapped D I! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:14:22 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Asian SEX Girl Pictures a day !! Message-ID: <23fb8d73.36964afe@aol.com> In a message dated 1/8/99 10:04:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, davew@wattstrainshop.com writes: << I know that many on the list are interested in Asian models, but I think this is a bit much. ;-) Best, Dave Watts >> Perhaps they're Tamiya, the kind that just need their box rattled and they come together? Deeply sorry Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 14:32:41 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Zivich To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Alb DVa:? Message-ID: Fellow List Members: I have a question I hope someone can answer. On the center section of the Alb. DVa's top wing is there rib tape? I'm wondering because I've seen illustrations of loz. camo. with rib tape, but would there be rib tape if the center section is plywood beneath linen? Matt Z. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:39:33 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Check this Profile Message-ID: <01BE3B0C.53D580E0.panz-meador@vsti.com> robert: could i get a scan/copy of the kraut picture? this topic sent me off eagerly going thru "the jasta pilots" for all those with (known) initials of RK. this is the same RK whose Jasta 4 D.VII is the well known one with the arms of the city of Thorn on its side (looks like the arms of the teutonic knights, black cross on white shield). phillip -----Original Message----- From: KarrArt@aol.com [SMTP:KarrArt@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, January 07, 1999 11:21 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Check this Profile In a message dated 1/7/99 12:05:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, bshatzer@orednet.org writes: << Actually, Franks et al, list a Ltn d.R. Richard Kraut with Jasta 4 from August 3, 1918 until October 25 and with Jasta 66 from October 25 until the end of the war. Ltn d. R. Kraut is credited with one victory on September 26, 1918. Dunno whether Kraut was actually the pilot of the referenced D.VII (as I can't seem to find a copy of the referenced photo in any of my books) but Richard Kraut apparently actually existed as a real Jasta pilot. Cheers and all, Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Cave ab homine unius librum.">> The one picture I have is from the book In The Cockpit-Flying the World's Greatest Aircraft. It shows the RK D VII in a line up with three other Fokkers and the caption says it's Jasta 66 and RK is Leutnant der Reserve Richard Kraut. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:50:28 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: RMS Olympic Part 2 Message-ID: <01BE3B0D.DAA1C100.panz-meador@vsti.com> chris: FWIW, R.A. Burt's "British Battleships of WW1" indicates that based on experiements in 1917, "... the entire mercantile fleet and a few selected warships were 'dazzle' painted. ... Unlike the merchange ships, however, the capital ships [Ramillies, Revenge, and Furious] each received an individually-designed pattern." also, "Ordinary light and dark greys were deemed insufficiently contrasting, so the colours used were far stronger, rangeing through greens, light and dark blues, blue-grey, four shades of grey, white, black, yellow, and mauve." based upon the passages, it's evident that (a) a wide variety of colours were used including yellow and mauve, which may account for the garrish colors described in your original post, and (b) "merchantment" used a standardized scheme or scheme. since olympic was larger than most, she may have had either an original scheme, however, or a "stretched" version of the standard(s). as regards to point (a) above, you might want to check the back covers of the janes reprints of warships of ...; the ww1 book features a hand-tinted photo of scapa flow (can't remember if ships are in dazzle schemes, but certainly there were ships with anti-rangefinding sheets and baffles on their stacks) while the ww2 book features a color picture of HMS Rodney. she's portrayed (again, this may be a hand-tint IIRC) in shades of gray, pink, light green, and light blue. HTH, phillip -----Original Message----- From: Chris Banyai-Riepl [SMTP:herper@willapabay.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 3:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RMS Olympic Part 2 Howdy! First, I want to thank everyone for all the information on this. I'm not normally a ship modeler, but I am getting excited about doing this kit now. Too bad it's not in my usual scale of 1/72... Now on to the questions. I've started accumulating a large number of images from the net, and I have several showing the dazzle paint scheme. But I have some questions as to the colors of this scheme. I know that when the war broke out, the Olympic was painted gray in New York. Upon returning to England, she was painted in the dazzle scheme. Of course, there is no color pictures of the Olympic in this scheme, so all I have to go by is black and white photos and a couple of postcard paintings that I've found. One of these postcard paintings shows the Olympic painted yellow or cream, with red and blue in the dazzle pattern. The other postcard shows the dazzle scheme in grays, white, black, and blue, which seems more likely. I have two pictures of the Olympic showing a pattern that matches this last postcard painting (one of the pictures actually shows the same arrangement of troops on the ship), so I at least know the pattern is close in shape. But then I have another picture of the Olympic in a dazzle scheme that doesn't match either of the other two pictures. Of the other two pictures, one of them shows the dazzle paint scheme in a pretty bad state. Does anyone have any information on how many times the Olympic was painted, and did the dazzle paint scheme during WWI have a set number and type of colors, and did this change during the war? Also, when they painted ships with a dazzle scheme, did they leave the bottom in hull red, or was it painted gray? OK, that's it for now. I'm going to try and figure out the best way to do the open promenade deck now. Chris Banyai-Riepl Publisher/Editor Internet Modeler http://www.avsim.com/mike/awn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:34:51 -0600 From: "John C Glaser" To: Subject: RE: 1/144th scale troubles... Message-ID: <000201be3b4e$b99c7900$f011820a@johng-home> James: Have you tried Small Parts Inc? Starting on page 363 of their latest catalog, there are O-rings starting at 3/32" O.D. Web page is www.smallparts.com. - John -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of Suvoroff@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 07, 1999 8:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: 1/144th scale troubles... Well, my Caudron R.11 is actually getting fairly close to complete, indeed close to the point at which I will have to face up to a problem which I have previously pushed into the background; does anybody have any good suggestions for ways short of brute carving for making 1/144th scale wheels? If I just had one, it might not be too tough to just carve one somehow, but I have to have four identical wheels... ugh. Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 16:55:56 -0500 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: thanks Message-ID: <36967EEC.4EC2@worldnet.att.net> mkendix wrote: > > Thank you to all those who responed with advice about a saw. I purchased > an exel (sp?) last night and have hacked off the horizontal tail flaps of > my Strutter. > > Michael > > mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu But How? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:18:42 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Asian SEX Girl Pictures a day !! Message-ID: <19990108.162425.-797675.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:17:32 -0500 (EST) KarrArt@aol.com writes: >Perhaps they're Tamiya, the kind that just need their box rattled and >they >come together? ROTFL!! Good one... Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 17:28:21 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: critters wasRe: Model RR shops wasRe: Model Ts Message-ID: <5455438a.36968685@aol.com> In a message dated 1/8/99 5:49:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, PSchwartzkopf@transcrypt.com writes: << Brings back memories. I remember my grandmother giving me (and the rest of her grandkids) this kit for Christmas when I was a kid. She didn't have much money, and this was all she could afford for her grandkids. Well, you can imagine what a 10 year old could do to butcher up this kit. When I grew up, I found one at a swap meet (cheap) to finally build it right. Too bad she isn't around now to see it. Paul A. Schwartzkopf >> I think the one my grandfather built was burnt by a loony aunt who appointed herself keeper of his stuff after he died.( the same aunt who DID burn his WW I silk trench maps and used his "soup bowl" helmet as a flower planter, causing the bottem to rust out) Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 16:46:36 -0600 From: Crofoot To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Asian SEX Girl Pictures a day !! Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990108164636.0072de04@pop.dlth.uswest.net> At 05:22 PM 1/8/99 -0500, you wrote: >On Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:17:32 -0500 (EST) KarrArt@aol.com writes: > >>Perhaps they're Tamiya, the kind that just need their box rattled and >>they >>come together? > >ROTFL!! Good one... > > Lest we forget, the really important question is are they 1/48 or 1/72? > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 17:51:17 EST From: Modelhound@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Off Topic Trade Offer Message-ID: <48e1f98e.36968be5@aol.com> So sorry about the off topic nature of this post, but, I know that not everybody here models only WW-1 subjects, and I want to give the members of this fine group first shot at this. I have a Monogram 1/48 B-58 kit in like new condition that I want to trade for a Revell large scale U.S.S.Constitution sailing ship model. This ship model is currently available so I would consider selling the B-58 for enough to buy the kit locally. Contact me off list if interested. I will make this same offer on RMS tomorrow if I don't hear from anyone. Thanks for your time, Mike Franklin modelhound@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 18:42:14 -0500 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Asian SEX Girl Pictures a day !! Message-ID: <369697D6.2035@worldnet.att.net> Off Topic: Unfortunately many of these girls have literally been sold into this kind of life. Not something I would want for my daughters. Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 16:20:22 +0000 From: Mike Dicianna To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Off Topic Trade Offer Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990108162022.0069594c@dnc.net> At 05:53 PM 1/8/99 -0500, you wrote: >So sorry about the off topic nature of this post, but, I know that not >everybody here models only WW-1 subjects, and I want to give the members of >this fine group first shot at this. I have a Monogram 1/48 B-58 kit in like >new condition that I want to trade for a Revell large scale U.S.S.Constitution >sailing ship model. >This ship model is currently available so I would consider selling the B-58 >for enough to buy the kit locally. Contact me off list if interested. I will >make this same offer on RMS tomorrow if I don't hear from anyone. >Thanks for your time, >Mike Franklin >modelhound@aol.com > >With the way Ebay prices have been lately, you could end up buying the REAL USS Constitution with the proceeds. Try a search of ebay completed sales, I seem to remember on of those B-58 kits going for well over $50.00 a couple of weeks ago.... Having built the Revell Constitution in my youth...I salute you!! Mikedc "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 19:15:37 -0500 (EST) From: mkendix To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: thanks Message-ID: Cyg: Well, I sawed a straight line along the horizontal tail flap after scribing it with an exacto knife. I then glued it back on at an angle so that the flaps of the tail are "down". Michael mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, John & Allison Cyganowski wrote: > mkendix wrote: > > > > Thank you to all those who responed with advice about a saw. I purchased > > an exel (sp?) last night and have hacked off the horizontal tail flaps of > > my Strutter. > > > > Michael > > > > mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu > > But How? > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 16:29:27 -0800 From: Fernando Lamas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Alb DVa:? Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990108162927.007e5100@olympus.net> At 02:33 PM 1/8/99 -0500, you wrote: >Fellow List Members: > >I have a question I hope someone can answer. On the center section of the >Alb. DVa's top wing is there rib tape? I'm wondering because I've seen >illustrations of loz. camo. with rib tape, but would there be rib tape if >the center section is plywood beneath linen? > >Matt Z. The Mikesh book documenting the restoration of the NASM Albatros D.Va shows (pg. 45) the entire wing surfaces, both upper and lower, after the new lozenge and rib tapes were applied. It also has scale drawings of the Canberra D.Va. In both the NASM photos and the Canberra plans, the exact center line does not have rib tapes. The center line does represent the axis along which the first two pieces of lozenge are sewn together. The exact center line however does not have an underlying rib and is not solid plywood. The ribs and the rib tapes begin 195mm from the center line on the port side and on either side of the radiator on the starboard side. Fernando Lamas ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 20:37:46 -0500 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re:Engine masking Message-ID: <3696B2EA.ABA8FA52@ptdprolog.net> Once again, I'm in search of guidance. I'm working on the Eduard Albatros D-III and am trying to think how I will be able to spray paint it overall blue sincxe thgere seems to be no way to put the engine in after the fuselage and lower wing are painted. The engine fits so nicely into the fuselage that I don't think I can use masking tape on the engine. Any ideas????? TIA Mike Muth nb: Eduard D-III Blaue Maus nu: I think the 1 1/2 Strutter interned in Holland using the Flashback kit in 1/72 nl: NPR/Mike Henderson & the Blue Bloods ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 06:07:45 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Engine masking Message-ID: <369762B1.E1B@ricochet.net> bucky@ptdprolog.net wrote: > > The engine fits so nicely into the fuselage that I don't think I > can use masking tape on the engine. Any ideas????? Leave the manifolds off the engine and cut a rectangular or oval piece of facial tissue or paper towel large enough to be draped over the cylinders and 'tucked in' under the edge of the engine aperature/opening in the cowl. Like a sheet thrown over furniture. Alternately, you could try a rolled up piece of paper or large post-it note slipped over the cylinders. This works very well for cockpits. You may get a teeny bit of overspray on the inside of the fuselage, but this may be preventable with some care. Incidentally, I'll be interested to learn how everyone deals with the slab-sided aft fuselage. Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 21:08:59 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re:Engine masking Message-ID: <199901082109_MC2-6604-DEAF@compuserve.com> Mike I use dampened napkin and tuck it around the engine. I use the napkin because it does not have lint. After I paint, I remove the napkin and usually, not paint. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 18:28:44 -0800 From: David Kinnear To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Model RR shops wasRe: Model Ts Message-ID: <199901090227.SAA09020@danube.cisco.com> There's a guy from the hills here, he claims his kin are always covering the cow's eyes. I'll try and find out the technique and return the favour. Thanks for the info. At the rate I work on things, it'll be months before I can really thank you David At 06:07 AM 1/8/99 -0500, you wrote: >David asks, > >> Lines are easy? Please, share the knowledg. I'm doing the >> 'Mailed Gauntlet' DV and have so far considered mask and spray. >> > >Flashars machine. I tried this with a 1/72 Airfix D.V and it worked >fine with the still narrower edging, so it'll work better in 1/48. > >Using the kit parts, make drawings of the tailplanes, fin and rudder >which are the required amount undersized for the green parts. Outlines >only. > >Using the office xerox, copy as many as you need onto a piece of paper. >Nice and close, don't waste space. > >Copy the result onto slear decal film. Cut all the bits out carefully. >Stick on a piece of card with bluetack. Spray them green. Spray edges >of the tail of machine red. Do the same to a scrap of leftover decal >film. A little masking takes care of the narrow bits of fuselage which >you paint green of course. Use the appropraitely shaped green decals >youve made and almost done. use the red film to make strips to edge the >green on the fuselage at the LE of the fin and tailplane. Perfect >edges. > >I admit that the reason I tried this mass production decal scenario was >a sick feeling that one day I might build a LOT of Jasta 5 planes for a >diorama. I don't know how to mask the cow though ! > >Shane > 'It's not a question of playing your best move, it's a question of playing the move that's most unpleasant for your opponent.' ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 18:31:26 -0800 From: David Kinnear To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re:Engine masking Message-ID: <199901090230.SAA09059@danube.cisco.com> Tin foil might be worth a try as well David At 09:10 PM 1/8/99 -0500, you wrote: >Mike > > I use dampened napkin and tuck it around the engine. I use the >napkin because it does not have lint. After I paint, I remove the napkin >and usually, not paint. > >Dennis Ugulano >email: Uggies@compuserve.com > 'It's not a question of playing your best move, it's a question of playing the move that's most unpleasant for your opponent.' ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 21:48:47 -0500 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Engine masking Message-ID: <3696C38E.2C31@worldnet.att.net> I used the testors low tack modeling tape. I left the manifolds and exhaust off o the engine, cut a strip, fit one edge all the way around the engine, then pressedthe the 2 ends together. Finally, I pressed the top edge together and Voila! As for the slab sides, I used the Glencoe fuselage. Not slab sided at all. ;-) Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 20:09:57 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: thanks Message-ID: <199901090409.UAA06750@compass.OregonVOS.net> Someone wrote: > >Thank you to all those who responed with advice about a saw. I purchased >an exel (sp?) last night and have hacked off the horizontal tail flaps of >my Strutter. Not to be persnickety but few WW1 aircraft had flaps. Those "flap" thingies on the horizontal tail are called "elevators" and those "flap" thingies on the wings are generally refered to as "ailerons". But you knew that, right? :-) Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 23:30:13 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: Model T Info Message-ID: <005f01be3b88$c0a9d820$1dd690d0@Pvosburg> Thank you all for taking time to send your comments, look for info, & share ideas on the Hucks starter project. Much as with my Bulldog request, your generosity has been nothing short of overwhelming. I suppose I ought to be used to this sort of thing by now, but it's the sort of pleasure I hope I never come to take for granted. Short of finding one of the Revell/Renwal kits, though, it looks like I may have to scratchbuild one if I want real 1:48. But I find I'm looking forward to it, in a sick sort of way. I guess this is probably how Robert and Shane feel much of the time... Thanks again, Dave V. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 20:33:52 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re:Engine masking Message-ID: <199901090433.UAA16611@compass.OregonVOS.net> Mike Muth writes: > > Once again, I'm in search of guidance. I'm working on the Eduard Albatros >D-III and am trying to think how I will be able to spray paint it overall blue >sincxe thgere seems to be no way to put the engine in after the fuselage and lower >wing are painted. The engine fits so nicely into the fuselage that I don't think I >can use masking tape on the engine. Any ideas????? I use Kleenex - facial tissue. Cut or tear it into appropriately sized pieces, get it a little wet (not soggy) and kind of drape it over the engine and gently shove the edges down the crack between the engine and the cowling with a toothpick or the like. Don't try and cover the entire engine with a single piece - use three or four pieces and overlap 'em a bit. Then, spray-paint the model. Try and avoid hitting the tissue directly but a overlap on to the tissue where you're painting the cowling around the engine is just fine. When the paint is dry, just gently pull the tissue out and, voila! Works like a charm. Occassionally a bit of hand touch-up is required where the tissue accidently masks a bit of the cowling or where a bit of paint leaks through the tissue but nothing serious. Most of the time, the hand touch-up isn't even required though. I stuff cockpits with the stuff as well before spraying. Works well there also. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Cave ab homine unius librum." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 23:39:37 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: flap thingys wasRe: thanks Message-ID: In a message dated 1/8/99 8:12:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, bshatzer@orednet.org writes: << >my Strutter. Not to be persnickety but few WW1 aircraft had flaps. Those "flap" thingies on the horizontal tail are called "elevators" and those "flap" thingies on the wings are generally refered to as "ailerons". But you knew that, right? :-) Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org >> To confuse it all even more, the Strutter had a sort of "flap thingy" airbrake doo-dad inset in the trailing edge of each lower wing which popped upward instead of the more familiar downward direction! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 23:39:40 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model T Info Message-ID: In a message dated 1/8/99 8:30:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, dave@vga- graphics.com writes: << But I find I'm looking forward to it, in a sick sort of way. I guess this is probably how Robert and Shane feel much of the time... Thanks again, Dave V. >> "sick sort of way"...yep- that's it! RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 22:53:09 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model T Info Message-ID: <3696E0B5.746E@bellsouth.net> David Vosburgh wrote: > Short of finding one of the Revell/Renwal kits, though, it looks like I may > have to scratchbuild one if I want real 1:48. When I was needing a 1/48 car model from that period, I went to the local model car club meeting lucked out. A guy had the Renwall 1914 Mercer Raceabout. Maybe you should find a model car website and try your luck there before you send all your money to ebey. Hth... Unless the scratchbuilding madness has already taken hold... E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 21:17:11 PST From: "Peter Crow" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re:Engine masking Message-ID: <19990109051711.20146.qmail@hotmail.com> Mike wrote.. > Once again, I'm in search of guidance. I'm working on the Eduard Albatros >D-III and am trying to think how I will be able to spray paint it overall blue >sincxe thgere seems to be no way to put the engine in after the fuselage and lower >wing are painted. The engine fits so nicely into the fuselage that I don't think I >can use masking tape on the engine. Any ideas????? Someone will probably beat me to this, but what I do do is use damp toliet tissue sort of packed around the engine.. spray, than pull it off.. touch-up where needed.. p. Crow >TIA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 23:25:57 -0600 (CST) From: Rick Milas To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re:Engine masking Message-ID: I too use the damp tissue method of masking engines. Several small pieces are needed, and I gently work them in place with a tootpick. As others have already mentioned the manifold should be added later. I also use this method for masking the cockpit and any open areas on the top of the fuselage between the engine and cockpit. Paper towel could also be used and is less "linty". However I find the thinner aspect of tissues to be advantageous. Light touch up afterwards is needed, but it's no big deal. Have fun, Rick Milas ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 00:26:59 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Model T Info Message-ID: <009401be3b90$af27c0a0$1dd690d0@Pvosburg> E. I was thinking of that also. I borrowed a copy of "Car Modeler" from a friend today and figured I'd pore over that for a while and see if I could find any web sites or good ads. It's got a '69 Camaro on the cover... tore the fender off of one in 1:1 scale one day, but that's another (off-topic) story... DV -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, January 09, 1999 1:08 AM Subject: Re: Model T Info >David Vosburgh wrote: >> Short of finding one of the Revell/Renwal kits, though, it looks like I may >> have to scratchbuild one if I want real 1:48. > >When I was needing a 1/48 car model from that period, I went to the >local model car club meeting lucked out. A guy had the Renwall 1914 >Mercer Raceabout. Maybe you should find a model car website and try your >luck there before you send all your money to ebey. Hth... > >Unless the scratchbuilding madness has already taken hold... >E. > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1372 **********************