WWI Digest 1369 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Model Ts by David & Carol Fletcher 2) Re: Check this Profile by David & Carol Fletcher 3) Re: Model Ts by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 4) Re: clear coats by SmudgeRIO@aol.com 5) Re: Model Ts by ModelerAl@aol.com 6) Re: Model Ts by KarrArt@aol.com 7) Re: Model Ts by KarrArt@aol.com 8) Re: Glue by Mike Fletcher 9) Re: Model Ts by KarrArt@aol.com 10) RE: Model Ts by "Chris Banyai-Riepl" 11) Re: Model Ts by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 12) Re: Model Ts by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 13) RE: Toko W29 by Shane Weier 14) flow troubles wasRe: Toko W29 by KarrArt@aol.com 15) Re: Model Ts by KarrArt@aol.com 16) RE: flow troubles wasRe: Toko W29 by Shane Weier 17) Re: Model Ts by "David Vosburgh" 18) Re: Model Ts by "David Vosburgh" 19) O-Gauge T? by "David Vosburgh" 20) Re: Model Ts by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 21) Re: clear coats by Pedro e Francisca Soares 22) Re: Model Ts by Pedro e Francisca Soares 23) Re: saws by Pedro e Francisca Soares 24) Re: Model Ts by "David R.L. Laws" 25) Re: Model Ts by David & Carol Fletcher 26) Model RR shops wasRe: Model Ts by KarrArt@aol.com 27) Re: Model Ts by KarrArt@aol.com 28) Re: Model Ts by KarrArt@aol.com 29) Re: Model RR shops wasRe: Model Ts by "David Vosburgh" 30) Re: Sopwith Baby colours by "richard eaton" 31) Re: Model Ts by David & Carol Fletcher 32) Re: saws by Ashley9862@aol.com 33) Re: Model Ts by lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) 34) Re: Sopwith Baby colours by bucky@ptdprolog.net 35) Re: clear coats by "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> 36) critters wasRe: Model RR shops wasRe: Model Ts by KarrArt@aol.com 37) Re: clear coats by KarrArt@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 11:04:17 -0800 From: David & Carol Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: <36950531.7A4@mars.ark.com> David Vosburgh wrote: "would be if somebody could tell me that there's a 1:48 Ford Model T kit available somewhere..." I dug through my stock of 1/32nd scale car kits (collected for years, but none ever finished) and there amongst them was Revell Kit #1256 "1925 Model T Ford" in 1/48th scale - which I had originally picked up with the intent of making into a Hucks starter car! Now I wonder what I can get for that on eBay (or from Dave V...)??? Unfortunately, I don't know if it's still in production. Dave Fletcher dcf@mars.ark.com (ever the eclectic modeller and collector) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 11:04:32 -0800 From: David & Carol Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Check this Profile Message-ID: <36950540.6711@mars.ark.com> "...but Richard Kraut apparently actually existed as a real Jasta pilot..." And I flew with Georg Kraut, former Jasta pilot on F-4s, when I was puttering around the skies in the NATO E-3A from Geilenkirchen (which translates as 'horny churches'). The name Kraut is not that uncommon (meaning 'cabbage') and there are some other unusual German names - my landlord's name was (is) Windeln, which means 'diapers' to the Americans and 'nappies' to the English - what a shi**y name. But we digress... Dave Fletcher dcf@mars.ark.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 13:33:21 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: Probably not in production at this time. Many car and truck kits of the 50's & 60's were done in 1/48 scale in order to go with those .047 ga. railroad layouts. I know that Renwal also had a series of car kits in 1/48 scale back in the mid-60's, but I don't remember if they had a Model T or not. Paul A. Schwartzkopf >>> David & Carol Fletcher 01/07 1:08 PM >>> David Vosburgh wrote: "would be if somebody could tell me that there's a 1:48 Ford Model T kit available somewhere..." I dug through my stock of 1/32nd scale car kits (collected for years, but none ever finished) and there amongst them was Revell Kit #1256 "1925 Model T Ford" in 1/48th scale - which I had originally picked up with the intent of making into a Hucks starter car! Now I wonder what I can get for that on eBay (or from Dave V...)??? Unfortunately, I don't know if it's still in production. Dave Fletcher dcf@mars.ark.com (ever the eclectic modeller and collector) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:38:07 EST From: SmudgeRIO@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: clear coats Message-ID: I use automotive laquer clearcoats. They do not yellow and dry to a high hard gloss. Beats anything else hands down IMHO Smudge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 15:10:31 EST From: ModelerAl@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: David Vosburgh wrote: >The best case scenario here, folks, would be if somebody could tell me that >there's a 1:48 Ford Model T kit available somewhere. IIRC, Renwal did one in their series of 1/48 scale car kits. These were very nice models - maybe you could pick one up on eBay. HTH, Al ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 15:54:08 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: In a message dated 1/7/99 11:34:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, PSchwartzkopf@transcrypt.com writes: << Many car and truck kits of the 50's & 60's were done in 1/48 scale in order to go with those .047 ga. railroad layouts. I know that Renwal also had a series of car kits in 1/48 scale back in the mid-60's, but I don't remember if they had a Model T or not. Paul A. Schwartzkopf >> Revell re-released their ancient Ford pickup (about a '56 version?) and gas tanker truck a couple of years ago, and I picked as many of these as I could get my hands just because 1/48 vehicles are so rare, and the parts should help for a lot of scratchbuilding. Somehow Revell ever having a 1/48 Model T escaped my notice! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 15:54:07 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: In a message dated 1/7/99 11:10:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, dcf@mars.ark.com writes: << there amongst them was Revell Kit #1256 "1925 Model T Ford" in 1/48th scale >> REAL genuine 1/48????!!!!! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 12:56:36 -0800 From: Mike Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Glue Message-ID: <36951F84.8D2F6917@mars.ark.com> I use the Revell contacta pro too - unfortunately it is unavailable in Canada - I got mine in Germany way too long ago. I replaced the cover with a length of wire to prevent it from clogging. For items needing immediate strength I use whaterver brand of CA handy - but there was a brand that had a pen that you squeezed a pair of buttons on each side to get the glue which was particularly accurate and sensitive. -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; mikef@sparc.nic.bc.ca |--n--""*" icq=19554083 @ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 15:54:12 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: In a message dated 1/7/99 12:12:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, ModelerAl@aol.com writes: << IIRC, Renwal did one in their series of 1/48 scale car kits. These were very nice models - maybe you could pick one up on eBay. HTH, Al >> One day in a model railroad shop, I ran across some little bagged kits by Glencoe of old vehicles. I don't where the molds originated, but the stated scales on the bags ranged from 1/61 to 1/37- a weird mix I know, but a couple in the series were 1/48, If I could just remember what they were! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:10:30 -0800 From: "Chris Banyai-Riepl" To: Subject: RE: Model Ts Message-ID: <000b01be3a82$2829f370$9a4ffbce@chris> > One day in a model railroad shop, I ran across some little bagged kits by > Glencoe of old vehicles. I don't where the molds originated, but > the stated > scales on the bags ranged from 1/61 to 1/37- a weird mix I know, > but a couple > in the series were 1/48, If I could just remember what they were! For those who are into 1/72, this Glencoe range has a 1/72 MG TC. If I remember right, one of the 1/48 kits was a Stutz Bearcat. They are somewhat crude and could use some serious cleaning up, but there are some useful aftermarket sets out there for them. Oh, yes, hard to believe, but it's true. 1/72 WWI photoetched spoked wheels will fit nicely onto the MG TC I have, and I would suspect that the same would stand true for the 1/48 kits. OK, so they're not DEDICATED detail sets, but every little bit helps. Now, does anyone know of a white metal or resin 1/72 engine and gearbox for a MG TC? Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 15:19:01 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: I have a few of the Renwal kits--'32 Ford, '40 Ford, and '30 Packard. I was watching a couple on Ebay the other day, and a bid of $15 did not even meet the seller's reserve price! Too high for me--last one of these I bought at a swap meet several months ago for $4. I am about done with Ebay. Looks like all those rich yuppies will pay practically anything for a kit without regards to its actual collector value. Paul A. Schwartzkopf >>> 01/07 2:57 PM >>> In a message dated 1/7/99 12:12:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, ModelerAl@aol.com writes: << IIRC, Renwal did one in their series of 1/48 scale car kits. These were very nice models - maybe you could pick one up on eBay. HTH, Al >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 15:23:25 -0600 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: A thought just occurred, and I better get it out before it dies of loneliness. You may want to check some of the auto model magazines for 1/43 kit manufacturers/catalogs. This is a very popular automotive scale, and someone may already make several examples of pre-1918 vehicles. I don't think the difference in 1/43 vs 1/48 would be very noticable. Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 07:19:10 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Toko W29 Message-ID: Matt says: > > Dries in mid flight, beads on the surface, drives me nuts, just > > like Aeromaster Flat acrylic. > Maybe your problem is not only humidity. What thinner are you > using? How about trying windshield washer fluid. Maybe for you > a larger fluid-to-Aeromaster ratio is needed. I've tried distilled water, wiper fluid, various mixes of water and isopropyl alcohol, and water with a touch of Kodak Fotoflo. The only successful mix was *very* dilute, with water and fotoflow, about 1:1. Ran like hell if I wasn't very, very careful. Worked okay in about 5 coats with 10 minutes between them, but who wants to spend an hour loading and cleaning an airbrush? Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:43:40 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: flow troubles wasRe: Toko W29 Message-ID: <22d21df2.36952a8c@aol.com> In a message dated 1/7/99 1:24:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << but who wants to spend an hour loading and cleaning an airbrush? Shane >> Uh.....try painting a picture of a B-52 on a 4'x6' panel! ( hey- I know I know, but it was a commission dammit!) Robert K., the insane geezer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:43:39 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: <7e75a6c8.36952a8b@aol.com> In a message dated 1/7/99 1:24:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, PSchwartzkopf@transcrypt.com writes: << 1/43 kit manufacturers/catalogs. This is a very popular automotive scale, and someone may already make several examples of pre-1918 vehicles. I don't think the difference in 1/43 vs 1/48 would be very noticable. Paul A. Schwartzkopf >> I thought about this when I built my Fiats because there were a few vehicles in 1/43 that could've been adapted, but to my eye, there really is a noticable difference in the scales, especially around smaller airplanes, such as most WW I fighters. Nowdays, with models that are pretty much truely 1/48, rather than the old days when any given Aurora might REALLY be 1/43, or 1/51 or anywhere inbetween, I'd say go for real 1/48, even it it means a foray into the deep dark realms of scratchbuilding. Wheels will probably be a problem, unless you don't mind haunting toy stores and such for el cheapo cars, cycles and trucks. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 07:56:53 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: flow troubles wasRe: Toko W29 Message-ID: Robert, > << but who wants to spend an hour > loading and cleaning an airbrush? > > > Uh.....try painting a picture of a B-52 on a 4'x6' panel! ( > hey- I know I know, but it was a commission dammit!) A looong time ago, I started work as a photographer. One of the things I had to do was retouching prints, blocking backgrounds etc. with an airbrush. Some days I'd go home with my fingers cramped from hours using the Paasche - and NOW that I do it for fun, I try to avoid overexposure. Of course, now I do *different* insane things. Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:37:04 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: <001401be3a8e$40e3f1c0$07d690d0@Pvosburg> Paul: I thought of that too... I checked the net for 1:43 kits & die-cast Model Ts last night before posting, and found that ERTL makes a number of versions of the T; BP tankers, Coleman's mustard trucks, etc.. I also checked E-Bay, but found no Ts in 1:48... 1:16, 1:24, 1:32, and an unspecified "mini-scale" double of a Stutz and a T touring car, but none in the True Scale. DV -----Original Message----- From: Paul Schwartzkopf To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Model Ts >A thought just occurred, and I better get it out before it dies of loneliness. You may want to check some of the auto model magazines for 1/43 kit manufacturers/catalogs. This is a very popular automotive scale, and someone may already make several examples of pre-1918 vehicles. I don't think the difference in 1/43 vs 1/48 would be very noticable. > >Paul A. Schwartzkopf > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:43:53 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: <001b01be3a8f$344c42e0$07d690d0@Pvosburg> Robert: The wheels & tire problem was what kept Gerald Wingrove, the dean of auto scratchbuilders, from getting into the field for a long time. He finally figured out a way of casting the tires in RTV (many years before most modellers had ever heard of it), but he still does the rims & spokes by hand AFAIK from brass & aluminium. He's been one of my heroes since I read an article about him in Automobile Quarterly circa 1976, and in fact he did a book about scratchbuilding which I once had a chance to pick up for seven bucks and didn't. Duh. It's going for about $40 now in the online rip-shops. DV -----Original Message----- From: KarrArt@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 5:58 PM Subject: Re: Model Ts >In a message dated 1/7/99 1:24:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, >PSchwartzkopf@transcrypt.com writes: > ><< 1/43 kit manufacturers/catalogs. This is a very popular automotive scale, >and someone may already make several examples of pre-1918 vehicles. I don't >think the difference in 1/43 vs 1/48 would be very noticable. > > Paul A. Schwartzkopf >> > >I thought about this when I built my Fiats because there were a few vehicles >in 1/43 that could've been adapted, but to my eye, there really is a noticable >difference in the scales, especially around smaller airplanes, such as most WW >I fighters. Nowdays, with models that are pretty much truely 1/48, rather than >the old days when any given Aurora might REALLY be 1/43, or 1/51 or anywhere >inbetween, I'd say go for real 1/48, even it it means a foray into the deep >dark realms of scratchbuilding. Wheels will probably be a problem, unless you >don't mind haunting toy stores and such for el cheapo cars, cycles and trucks. >Robert K. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:11:16 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: O-Gauge T? Message-ID: <002901be3a93$078f7c00$07d690d0@Pvosburg> Re: Robert's comments on the mystery Glencoe kits, since we have a couple of model RR-ers on the list, any chance an O-gauge company makes a Model T as an accessory for train layouts? Mr. Watts...? To bring this all back on-topic, I got a belated Christmas present the other day, a book called "Gentlemen Volunteers: The Story of the American Ambulance Drivers in the Great War" which had some great photos of the Model T ambulances used in France. One of those would make an interesting project too if you were into vehicles, and it would probably be a fairly easy conversion from one of the 1:32 or 1:24 kits since most of the superstructure is flat-sided. I seem to recall an article in "Scale Modeler" in the '70s on just such a conversion. DV ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:11:06 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: <19990107.171404.-885195.0.mbittner@juno.com> Speaking of model RR's, what about checking the model RR shop? G-gauge - I think - is 1/48th, so... Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 22:42:15 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: clear coats Message-ID: <36953847.4D64725E@mail.telepac.pt> Rick Milas wrote: > Matt, > Thanks for the helpful info on clearcoats. I'd like to switch to acrylics, > and now may be the time. > Rick Milas Hey, They're not acrylics but Humbrol's range of varnishes (matt cote, satin cote and gloss cote) are great also. They are white so I don't believe they'll yellow with time either. 20 euro cents from Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 22:43:58 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: <369538AE.821E3EF1@mail.telepac.pt> David Vosburgh wrote: > The best case scenario here, folks, would be if somebody could tell me that > there's a 1:48 Ford Model T kit available somewhere. Since I doubt there is, > I'm mentally preparing myself for the eventuallity of having to scratchbuild > one. Based on some photos in "On Silver Wings" and some input from Dave > Fletcher, I've conceived a great desire to have an RAF example sporting > Hucks starter gear to go with my inter-war projects. > > If anyone has attempted this, or could supply info on the differences > between the UK and US Model Ts, sources for drawings, photos, etc. I would > appreciate it greatly. Robert, was the truck in your 94th Aero diorama based > on a T chassis? > > Does anyone know of somebody at Shuttleworth with an e-mail address, since > they apparently have an genuine example? > > TIA > > Dave V. Dave, I have a couple of photos of a model T Starter taken at the Spanish Museu del aire. Let me know if you (or anybody else of course) want scans. HTH Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 22:49:19 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: saws Message-ID: <369539EF.F9DC95D4@mail.telepac.pt> mkendix wrote: > Any recommendations on size, make and type of saw I should get to hack > off tail and wing flaps in order to reset them in a downward direction? > I understand that a jeweler's saw is best. Is thact orrect? > > Michael > > mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu Michael, Have you consider scribing in with a needle repeatedly until cutting through the plastic? I find it easier than using the saw which makes a much broader cut. 20 eurocents more Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 09:42:52 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: <3695D31C.4E43@webtime.com.au> Chris If you want it, I have the owner's manual and other ephemeral references for the MG TC - Speaking from the experience of too many long cold ( or stinking hot ! ) evenings under the bonnet ( hood ) of the ruddy beasty I'm certain you'd find the boxy shape of the XPAG engine a fairly simple scratch project - even the standard Su carbs are pretty simple - The gear box is little more than a cone with a box shaped endy bit running out to the prop shaft bearing and I'm sure you wont be attempting to spring load the shift as per original ! david ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 15:24:23 -0800 From: David & Carol Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: <36954227.216F@mars.ark.com> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: "REAL genuine 1/48????!!!!!" The box indeed says that it is "The One True Scale"; comparing it to a 1/24th scale kit, it appears to be exactly half the size, so that's good! Cars are ridiculously small when compared to aeroplanes! Now for the sordid details: The kit is copyright 1978 and my issue is from Revell Germany. It is a roadster body and comes in four individually wrapped packages - the black (what else?) body and chassis are wrapped with the clear windshield and headlights; the black wheels, axles, radiator etc., are in another package; there is a chromed tree which isn't even off this car! - but I don't seem to be missing any parts anyway... except for the engine pan and that looks like the chrome one should be used; and there are five soft-rubber tires (tyres for the Brits). All told, it looks like a rather well-executed and detailed little kit with a wide range of possible uses. I think it might be a keeper... Happy Hunting! Dave Fletcher dcf@mars.ark.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:33:47 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Model RR shops wasRe: Model Ts Message-ID: <93d95632.3695445b@aol.com> In a message dated 1/7/99 3:13:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, mbittner@juno.com writes: << Speaking of model RR's, what about checking the model RR shop? G-gauge - I think - is 1/48th, so... Matt Bittner >> RR shops are great places- all kinds of oddments to be found, especially good for diorama builders.( The cow I'm hoarding for maybe one day doing a particular Jasta line up was procured at a modell RR shop!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:33:53 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: <1506cbb5.36954461@aol.com> In a message dated 1/7/99 3:30:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, dcf@mars.ark.com writes: << KarrArt@aol.com wrote: "REAL genuine 1/48????!!!!!" The box indeed says that it is "The One True Scale"; comparing it to a 1/24th scale kit, it appears to be exactly half the size, so that's good! >> Excuse while I sit down! Well, I guess I know what I'm looking for at the next collector show! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:38:52 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: On the general subject- I've spent most of the afternoon digging for Model T stuff, and as is often the case, my efficiency is hampered because I get side tracked by interesting junk I forgot I had- case in point: An article about the British Army 1914 MK I mobile pidgeon loft. One of you guys who builds ground vehicles ought to look into this. Amaze your friends as they gasp "What in #$$#@#$%^ is that?" Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:42:43 -0500 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Model RR shops wasRe: Model Ts Message-ID: <001401be3a97$6c69d360$21d690d0@Pvosburg> Ah, yes... the famous psychedelic cow! -----Original Message----- From: KarrArt@aol.com >RR shops are great places- all kinds of oddments to be found, especially good >for diorama builders.( The cow I'm hoarding for maybe one day doing a >particular Jasta line up was procured at a modell RR shop!) > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:40:07 -0600 From: "richard eaton" To: Subject: Re: Sopwith Baby colours Message-ID: <199901072353.RAA13890@sierra.onr.com> I built that one. I used Testors Desert Sand on mine for clear doped linen. I then used brown watercolor pencils to add highlights and detail. Richard ---------- > From: mkendix > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Sopwith Baby colours > Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 8:04 PM > > I am considering doing Eduard's Sopwith Baby, 1/72nd scale. A colour > guide in the box calls for "cloth" and I was wondering what this is. > > Michael > > > mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 15:52:39 -0800 From: David & Carol Fletcher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: <369548C7.7063@mars.ark.com> Pedro e Francisca Soares wrote: "I have a couple of photos of a model T Starter taken at the Spanish Museu del aire. Let me know if you (or anybody else of course) want scans... Pedro, you are a genius - you know your way around my library better than I do! Spain was the clue - "World Aviation in Spain (The Civil War) 1936-1939 - American and Soviet Warplanes" has drawings of the Model T starter truck on page 231. This Dave would like your scans, too - just in case I ever get inspired to try and start my projected two-seat Bulldog's Bristol Jupiter... Dave Fletcher dcf@mars.ark.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:14:06 EST From: Ashley9862@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: saws Message-ID: <12cb5efb.36954dce@aol.com> I dispensed with saws and scribing long ago. I drill a very small set of holes (about the diameter of sewing thread) along the hinges or other strategic points in the line I wish to cut out. Then I pass sewing thread through the hole and begin drawing the thread through as if your starting a fire with a drill. The thread action on the plastic creates friction that melts the plastic, sawing a line. I drop the flaps on the Eduard 1/48 Albatross DIII in about 2 minutes flat. A vice to grip the part securely will help. I then pass a little sandpaper into the hinge line to clean it up. Candice Uhlir ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 00:27:15 GMT From: lfendy@firstsaga.com (Leonard Endy) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Model Ts Message-ID: <36955085.1252930@legend.firstsaga.com> On Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:12:08 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >Speaking of model RR's, what about checking the model RR shop? G-gauge - >I think - is 1/48th, so... > O scale, called 1/4 inch scale in the RR world, is 1/48th scale. Len ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 19:35:56 -0500 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sopwith Baby colours Message-ID: <369552EC.E79B3FFA@ptdprolog.net> I also use Testors Modern Desert Sand (Spray) for CDL...looks perfect. Mike Muth richard eaton wrote: > I built that one. I used Testors Desert Sand on mine for clear doped linen. > I then used brown watercolor pencils to add highlights and detail. > > Richard > > ---------- > > From: mkendix > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Sopwith Baby colours > > Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 8:04 PM > > > > I am considering doing Eduard's Sopwith Baby, 1/72nd scale. A colour > > guide in the box calls for "cloth" and I was wondering what this is. > > > > Michael > > > > > > mkendix@worthen.ihcrp.georgetown.edu > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 17:48:25 -0700 From: "D. Anderson" <2814823733@home.com> To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: clear coats Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990107174825.00706860@mail> At 02:38 PM 07/01/99 -0500, you wrote: >I use automotive laquer clearcoats. They do not yellow and dry to a high hard >gloss. Beats anything else hands down IMHO > >Smudge > Exept that they are highly toxic, and unless you take the most stringent precautions when using them, you are harming your health in using them. This does not mean merely opening your basement window, or spraying in a garage, but using a respirator and spraying in a spraying chamber with fans moving a certain amount of air out per second. A modeller's spray booth is not quite the same thing. Future also dries to a hard gloss, does not yellow, dries very quickly (once, in a hurry, I was applying decals to a model 20 minutes after spraying Future; no adverse effects yet, and that was more than 4 years ago), and using it won't kill you. Dane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:08:40 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: critters wasRe: Model RR shops wasRe: Model Ts Message-ID: <827b8a71.36955a98@aol.com> In a message dated 1/7/99 3:44:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, dave@vga- graphics.com writes: << Ah, yes... the famous psychedelic cow! >> and on the subject of animals.......do any of you remember the 1/48 20 Mule Team Wagon kit from Boraxo? It was, and I hear still is sometimes available from this soap company. In the 50s you could order one for something like 50 cents and a boxtop from the product. I got one in the late 70s-early80s and it around 2 bucks. What you got was a 1/48 styrene kit of an ore wagon and water tank with 19 not-bad mules- always useful around dioramas. The kit also comes with one horse ("20 mule team" is kind of a misnomer- one horse was included in the wagon set up on the theory that he would keep the mules in line). These animals can be cleaned up and worked pretty well. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:08:41 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: clear coats Message-ID: <9ec0bda6.36955a99@aol.com> In a message dated 1/7/99 4:57:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, 2814823733@home.com writes: << Future also dries to a hard gloss, does not yellow, dries very quickly (once, in a hurry, I was applying decals to a model 20 minutes after spraying Future; no adverse effects yet, and that was more than 4 years ago), and using it won't kill you. Dane >> Unless you want to get your innards gummed up with acrylic plastic! Airbrush magazines over the years have featured health articles on the dangers of water based acrylics when sprayed. The particulates behave in some people like coal does in miner's lungs- but- your alveoli will be scuff resistant! Robert K ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 1369 **********************