WWI Digest 991 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Sopwith Dove by Ernest Thomas 2) Re: Sins of the (mostly) faithful by Rick Heinbaugh 3) Re: Salmson Stuff by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 4) Sopwith Snipe by "Peter Crow" <888444222@email.msn.com> 5) Re: April 21,1918 by perrysm@juno.com 6) Re: Sopwith Dove by perrysm@juno.com 7) Re: Sins of the (mostly) faithful by "Scott M. Head" 8) Re: Sins of the (mostly) faithful by Ernest Thomas 9) Re: Sins of the (mostly) faithful by Ernest Thomas 10) Re: April 21,1918 by REwing 11) Barker's 'tin' cutout by Bob Pearson 12) Re: Sanding by Mick Fauchon 13) Re: Sins of the (mostly) faithful by Mick Fauchon 14) Flashback Morane - and - JMGT Hanriot by "Sandy Adam" 15) Toko N-11/Snipe by James Gibbons 16) Re: Sins of the (mostly) faithful by Ernest Thomas 17) Re: April 21,1918 by Carlos Valdes 18) Re: Salmson Stuff by Jim Elkins 19) AEQ 12/Vickers F.B.4/5/6/9 by Graham Nash 20) Re: April 21,1918 by Paul Schwartzkopf 21) Re: AEQ 12/Vickers F.B.4/5/6/9 by Joey Valenciano 22) Re: Sanding by The Shannons 23) Menckhoff's Albatros by James Gibbons 24) Re: Sanding by "Lee Mensinger" 25) by Pedro e Francisca Soares 26) Shane's models by Pedro e Francisca Soares 27) Re: Sins of the (Mostly) faithful, addendum by r_niles@juno.com (Russell W Niles) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 21:16:52 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: Sopwith Dove Message-ID: <353C0194.7709@bellsouth.net> Michelle and Rory Goodwin wrote: > > FWIW, Osprey's Classic Aircraft of WWI has photos of a covered and > uncovered Dove replica by Skyport engineering of Bedfordshire made for > Roger Reeves > > Riordan Hey Steve, This is what I was thinking about when I responded this a.m. Do you already have this book? Ernest ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:07:30 -0700 From: Rick Heinbaugh To: wwi Subject: Re: Sins of the (mostly) faithful Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980421080730.007cdbf0@mbay.net> At 08:42 PM 4/20/1998 -0400, you wrote: >Gerald P. McOsker wrote: but Napoleonics- especially flats, anything to do >> with the 95th Rifles and the Peninsula Campaign [Sharpes Rifles got me >> going] and occasional forays into Japanese samurai etc. All of this >> surrounded by volumes which cost a price my wife should not know- [Allright >> I confessed that but do I have to make amends?] >> >> Cheers in sinfulness! >> >> Gerry > >Gerry, > >I've been interested in painting some green jackets lately, and for the >same reason as you. Who makes some nice 54mm or larger riflemen. >Have you scratched a seven barreled gun yet? > >Ernest > You know, the British magazine *Military Modeling* a couple of years ago had a photo spread on the Sharp TV movie. That seven barreled gun looked much different that I had envisioned it. So, to do the model of a fictious person (with a fictitious weapon?), does one scratch according to a TV movie source or according to the tune in one's head? Rick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 21:09:30 -0700 (PDT) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Salmson Stuff Message-ID: <199804210409.VAA04828@ednet1.orednet.org> Riordan writes: >Jim Elkins wrote: -snips- >>or Dorand A.R. (Antique Rattletrap!) I would be grateful. > >Can't find this one in the French book. Did it have another >designation/name/number? Check pages 37 et seq. of the "French book" under A.R.1 and A.R.2. The "Dorand" was apparently a popular appellation for the type but was not a part of the official designation. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 21:15:04 -0700 From: "Peter Crow" <888444222@email.msn.com> To: Subject: Sopwith Snipe Message-ID: <0934b3316041548UPIMSSMTPUSR02@email.msn.com> Was just at the Hannants site and saw that the new TOKO kit release is the Sopwith Snipe... Another one to put on the bench .. (or under it) Peter Crow ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 00:36:15 -0400 From: perrysm@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: April 21,1918 Message-ID: <19980421.003616.-25874.1.perrysm@juno.com> On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 20:00:11 -0400 KarrArt writes: >In a message dated 98-04-20 18:22:33 EDT, you write: > ><< A reminder that tomorrow is the 80th anniversary of the death of >Manfred >von > Richthofen. > >> >An odd and sad thing in the news today is the mid-air of two Stearmans >in the >Red Baron aerobatic team over Florida.Two pilots killed. I've seen >these guys- >they were great! >Robert K. > I saw them perform Saturday at Mac Dill AFB in Tampa. No mistaking the sound of 4 Stearmans in the air at once. I even got some pictures. They put on an impressive performance. Much of it was flown one after another in a line through barrel rolls, loops and the like. I even remarked to my friends that that was a safer way to perform on such a windy day. And the one after another snarls of those big radials was realy neat. A sad loss of fine pilots and classic machines. sp _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 00:28:17 -0400 From: perrysm@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Sopwith Dove Message-ID: <19980421.003616.-25874.0.perrysm@juno.com> On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:22:54 -0400 Ernest Thomas writes: >Michelle and Rory Goodwin wrote: >> >> FWIW, Osprey's Classic Aircraft of WWI has photos of a covered and >> uncovered Dove replica by Skyport engineering of Bedfordshire made >for >> Roger Reeves >> >> Riordan > >Hey Steve, >This is what I was thinking about when I responded this a.m. Do you >already have this book? >Ernest > Ernest, Riordan and others kindly responding: No I don't have either the Osprey or the Harleyford books. The pictures I have are in the book Wind in the Wires by Mike Vines. I believe the Dove belongs to the Shuttleworth Collection. It has the swept wing and that is the version for which I'm seeking drawings. This particular plane (G-EAGA) has sky blue wings, Al cowl, CDL fuselage with varnished ply around the cockpits. I realy liked it and surprisingly so did H.R.H. (She DIDN'T like the way the red clashed with the pink in the Loz on a Udet D.VII and I finaly had to give the darn thing away before I heard the end of it). If anyone has drawings of the swept wing version, I'd appreciate a copy. I can be snailed at 2234 37th Ave N St. Petersburg, FL 33713 or I can take e-mail with attachments at smperry@mindspring.com. Contact me off list and I'll cover your postage, copying or scanning costs. TIA Steven Perry perrysm@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 23:43:46 -0600 From: "Scott M. Head" To: wwi Subject: Re: Sins of the (mostly) faithful Message-ID: <9804202347.aa03199@mail.iapc.net> >On Sun, 19 Apr 1998 18:41:21 -0400 Shane Weier >writes: >>Okay folks, > I thought it might be entertaining to ask >>the list members if they are *truly* faithful to the one true way, >>generally faithful, or just plain old adulterers. >> >>So spill your guts folks - tell us if you really build *only* WW1, and >>if not, what other subjects you enjoy (as a minor entertainment, of >>course). Then we may be able to identify fellow sufferers for off list >>comradeship in our efforts to repent ! Alright, I'll confess too, since everyone else is doing it! (talk about Lemming syndrome...) Basically, if it has wings, I'll build it. One two three, or more, no big deal. For that matter, I've also built those flying machines that beat the air into submission, and once or twice I've even built flying gasbags. I'll even take the risk of being excommunicated- I've built a few unmentionables, those disgusting one oh, uhhh, ummm those messersh..., ugh! I can't say it! Have mercy, fellow sinners! Quite frankly, anything plastic is a candidate for my building table, but I am somewhat redeemed I suppose by the simple fact that my heart lies in the WWI genre. I just tend to lack the gumption to rig biplanes and deal with struts and lozenge. It's too easy to shelve a WWI project when the latest and greatest "slap it together without any true modeling skill mass appeal WWII subject" model hits the stores. Oh for shame! I've shot any credibility I may have had right down with that last line, eh? Cheers! Scott M. Head IPMS/Houston IPMS/USA 32841 smh@iapc.net IPMS/Houston Scale Model Forum: http://web-hou.iapc.net/~smh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 23:51:06 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: Sins of the (mostly) faithful Message-ID: <353C257A.26DD@bellsouth.net> Rick Heinbaugh wrote: > > At 08:42 PM 4/20/1998 -0400, you wrote: > >Gerald P. McOsker wrote: > but Napoleonics- especially flats, anything to do > >> with the 95th Rifles and the Peninsula Campaign [Sharpes Rifles got me > >> going] and occasional forays into Japanese samurai etc. All of this > >> surrounded by volumes which cost a price my wife should not know- [Allright > >> I confessed that but do I have to make amends?] > >> > >> Cheers in sinfulness! > >> > >> Gerry > > > >Gerry, > > > >I've been interested in painting some green jackets lately, and for the > >same reason as you. Who makes some nice 54mm or larger riflemen. > >Have you scratched a seven barreled gun yet? > > > >Ernest > > > > You know, the British magazine *Military Modeling* a couple of years ago > had a photo spread on the Sharp TV movie. That seven barreled gun looked > much different that I had envisioned it. > > So, to do the model of a fictious person (with a fictitious weapon?), does > one scratch according to a TV movie source or according to the tune in > one's head? > > Rick Rick, I also found the sbg to be different than I envisioned. Although not much different. Basicly, my imagination didn't take into account the smaller barrels to accomodate the pistol ammo. So had I scratched it from the tune in my head, it would have had oversized barrels. But other than that, it would have been about the same. What had you envisioned btw? As far as which version should we scratch-build, the TV character/gun, while fictional, is just a fleshing out of the fictional literary character/gun. Therefore, we should treat it just like we would treat any other detail we're unsure of. Build it as we think it should be built unless available sources indicate otherwise. In this case, we have an addtional source(the TV show) that makes it clear what this fictional gun looks like. In short, build it like the TV show. And now to contradict myself, I must say that if and when I do my 95th rifles vignette, my Sharpe figure will have black hair and be shorter than Sgt. Harper, but not much. Just my own too sheckels worth on a off topic subject.(sorry guys) Always Heretical, Ernest ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 23:57:06 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: Sins of the (mostly) faithful Message-ID: <353C2722.24CA@bellsouth.net> Scott M. Head wrote: > > >On Sun, 19 Apr 1998 18:41:21 -0400 Shane Weier > >writes: > >>Okay folks, > > I thought it might be entertaining to ask > >>the list members if they are *truly* faithful to the one true way, > >>generally faithful, or just plain old adulterers. > >> > >>So spill your guts folks - tell us if you really build *only* WW1, and > >>if not, what other subjects you enjoy (as a minor entertainment, of > >>course). Then we may be able to identify fellow sufferers for off list > >>comradeship in our efforts to repent ! > > Alright, I'll confess too, since everyone else is doing it! (talk about > Lemming syndrome...) > > Basically, if it has wings, I'll build it. One two three, or more, no big > deal. For that matter, I've also built those flying machines that beat the > air into submission, and once or twice I've even built flying gasbags. I'll > even take the risk of being excommunicated- I've built a few > unmentionables, those disgusting one oh, uhhh, ummm those messersh..., ugh! > I can't say it! Have mercy, fellow sinners! > > Quite frankly, anything plastic is a candidate for my building table, but I > am somewhat redeemed I suppose by the simple fact that my heart lies in the > WWI genre. I just tend to lack the gumption to rig biplanes and deal with > struts and lozenge. It's too easy to shelve a WWI project when the latest > and greatest "slap it together without any true modeling skill mass appeal > WWII subject" model hits the stores. Oh for shame! I've shot any > credibility I may have had right down with that last line, eh? > > Cheers! > > Scott M. Head > IPMS/Houston > IPMS/USA 32841 > smh@iapc.net > > IPMS/Houston Scale Model Forum: > http://web-hou.iapc.net/~smh Your credibility is now a smoking hole.;-) EtH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 02:18:57 EDT From: REwing To: wwi Subject: Re: April 21,1918 Message-ID: << A reminder that tomorrow is the 80th anniversary of the death of Manfred von Richthofen. >> I shall raise my glass in somber tribute. -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 00:33:05 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Barker's 'tin' cutout Message-ID: <07330568802294@KAIEN.COM> Greetings all, I have been in contact with Andy Kemp and during our discussion on Barker it turns out that he has one of the Devil ornaments that Barker had on his Camel and Snipe. Despite reports to the contrary (from me in the VC book for one), these were not metal cutouts, but were a fully formed shape similiar to a car ornament. Andy got his from the estate of an ex-45 Sqn member and it still bears traces of the red paint it was once finished in. If anyone would like to see this figure, send me a message off list and I will email it to you. Regards, Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:30:37 +1000 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Sanding Message-ID: Ernest, > She'll ask whats so funny and when I tell her, she either doesn't get it > or gets it but doesn't think it's funny enough to have sat through the > explanation. Yeah, tell me about it! 80) Mick -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 20:05:27 +1000 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Sins of the (mostly) faithful Message-ID: Gerry and Ernest, > > This list resembles a medieval passion play at times Ah yes, but one of the best! > > plastic and paper etc. but Napoleonics- especially flats, Aha! anything to do > > with the 95th Rifles and the Peninsula Campaign [Sharpes Rifles Aha-ha!! > > surrounded by volumes which cost a price my wife should not know- [Allright > > I confessed that but do I have to make amends?] Of course you do! But we husbands don't nescessarily get to know how or when.....or what for....straight up 80) > I've been interested in painting some green jackets lately, and for the > same reason as you. Who makes some nice 54mm or larger riflemen. > Have you scratched a seven barreled gun yet? While I haven't made any 95th as such, I have made a couple of figures and a vignette of the Leichte Bataillonen of the KGL, the uniforms and arms being so similar that I successfully converted the Airfix Collectors' Series 95th Rifleman.....same goes for the Coldstream Guard/KGL Leinenbat. You can even mix-and-match with some Multipose bits. If you have a rat through old copies of Military Modelling, you'll find a number of larger metal figures listed......if they're still available. I guess that applies to the Airfix as well.......it doesn't worry me unduly at the moment, I have something of a stock-pile. If you want any further details, give me a whistle. Oh well, if you *must* sin.....sin mightily! [I wonder who said that? 80)] Cheers, Mick. -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:16:22 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Flashback Morane - and - JMGT Hanriot Message-ID: <199804211009.LAA00523@beryl.sol.co.uk> Hannants Sale parcel arrived today - thanks again Graham for alerting us to the offers. Firstly the JMGT Hanriot HD-1. This is stunning: one of the sharpest resin kits I have seen. Very thin wings and really sharp details. So it should be - the original price tag was 44.95GBP! At 19.95GBP though it is well worthwhile. I haven't checked against plans yet but it looks AOK. Good transfers for Belgian and Italian machines. I know Eduard is supposed to be doing it but I've waited 2 years already and I reckon this could be a Millennium release! I did swither about the SPAD 7, but I've already built the Blue Max and a DML conversion so passed on it. If anyone wants a 1/48 S7 now though (at 24.95GBP plus P&P) it would be worth e-mailing to see if there are any left. I assume the quality will be as good as the HD-1. I also got the Flashback Morane I, which is also good. I compared this with the earlier N and the plastic bits are the same although the new one is substantially more flash-free. You get 2 added brass frets with metal skis and suchlike on them as well as a bag of resin bits with a very sharp cockpit interior, prop blades, wooden skis etc. You get the same white metal engine but new Russian transfers which include the best cockades I have yet seen - no blue run-through into the red. One of the subjects has those terrific triangular tricolour pennants for the fuselage sides (4th Corps), as well as Smirmov's 19 Corps Death's Head and a 2nd Corps machine with the wooden skis. Yet more kits screaming to be built. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:53:59 -0400 From: James Gibbons To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Toko N-11/Snipe Message-ID: <01BD6D03.093464C0.jgibbons@vppsa.com> A little while back I seem to remember someone saying these kits were out in Europe. Have any of our European list members seen these kits or am I mistaken? If someone has acquired either of these kits I would love to see a review! Hoping that they are on their way to my continent, James Gibbons ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 07:49:40 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: Sins of the (mostly) faithful Message-ID: <353C95B1.1B91@bellsouth.net> Mick Fauchon wrote: > While I haven't made any 95th as such, I have made a couple of figures > and a vignette of the Leichte Bataillonen of the KGL, the uniforms and arms > being so similar that I successfully converted the Airfix Collectors' Series > 95th Rifleman.....same goes for the Coldstream Guard/KGL Leinenbat. You can > even mix-and-match with some Multipose bits. > If you have a rat through old copies of Military Modelling, you'll > find a number of larger metal figures listed......if they're still > available. I guess that applies to the Airfix as well.......it doesn't > worry me unduly at the moment, I have something of a stock-pile. > If you want any further details, give me a whistle. > > Oh well, if you *must* sin.....sin mightily! [I wonder who > said that? 80)] > Mick, Not having a pile of old Military Modeller to squizzy through, I guess I'll just have to put my lips together and blow. (tweeeeeeeet!!!) And while I do my best to sin mightily, I'm always keeping my eyes open for an original sin! Ernest ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:54:44 -0400 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: April 21,1918 Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980421085443.0068a4f0@conted.swann.gatech.edu> At 02:22 AM 4/21/98 -0400, you wrote: > ><< A reminder that tomorrow is the 80th anniversary of the death of Manfred >von Richthofen. >> > >I shall raise my glass in somber tribute. > >-Rick- > 1918-1998--to MvR and all the others of both sides: R.I.P. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:58:55 -0700 From: Jim Elkins To: wwi Subject: Re: Salmson Stuff Message-ID: <353CD048.DD509888@swbell.net> Bill Shatzer wrote: > Check pages 37 et seq. of the "French book" under A.R.1 and > A.R.2. The "Dorand" was apparently a popular appellation > for the type but was not a part of the official designation. > > You are correct, sir! Jane's gives the general type of the 'Dorand-line' as Dorand for its namesake Colonel of the Section Technique d'Aviation. A.R. is representative of the Renault 200 h.p. engine and A.L.D. is Avion Lorraine-Dietriich. I presume the A.R. 1 / A.L.D. 1 would be the official name tag. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:17:22 -0700 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: AEQ 12/Vickers F.B.4/5/6/9 Message-ID: <199804211509.AA05397@egate2.citicorp.com> I have just completed scans of the J.M.Bruce article in Air Enthusiast Quarterly 12 on the Vickers Gunbus development. Anyone wanting copies please contact me off-list. There are 16-odd files, that will take up about 10 mb of disk/mail space. I may wait a few hours/a day before sending out to requestees. Happy modelling ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:37:45 -0600 From: Paul Schwartzkopf To: wwi Subject: Re: April 21,1918 Message-ID: >An odd and sad thing in the news today is the mid-air of two Stearmans >in the >Red Baron aerobatic team over Florida.Two pilots killed. I've seen >these guys- >they were great! >Robert K. One of the pilots lived only a short distance from here. The community of Seward, NE is very shook up, as Jim Lovelace was one hell of a person and a pilot. He will be missed. Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 23:52:17 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: AEQ 12/Vickers F.B.4/5/6/9 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980421235217.006f9c0c@philonline.com.ph> >I have just completed scans of the J.M.Bruce article in Air Enthusiast >Quarterly 12 on the Vickers Gunbus development. > >Anyone wanting copies please contact me off-list. :-) :-) :-) :-) ;^) You know me..... BTW, I'll be out for 2 days for a concert out of town. I'll check out the article when I get back on Friday. Any luck with those html files I sent you? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:12:50 -0500 From: The Shannons To: wwi Subject: Re: Sanding Message-ID: <353CC581.62CCE86C@ix.netcom.com> To avoid continuing this off-topic, though interesting, thread in the group list, I hope to simply direct people to a listing of such jokes on the Halle Orchestra website. http://www.wardle.demon.co.uk/index.html >From there there is a rich selection of musical humor from Murphy's Laws of Music to Violist Jokes and the Singer's Guide to Keeping Conductors in Line. Bob Pearson wrote: > Mark wrote (in reply to my writing) . . > > > Bob Pearson wrote: > > > > > Okay, how do you make a guitar player stop playing? > > > > > > Put sheet music in front of him. > > > > In response to: > > > > > ---------- > > > > What do you call a guy who hangs out with 3 musicians? > > > > The Drummer. > > > > And what is the difference between a string bass and a guitar? > > > > The bass burns longer. > > > > What's the difference between a singer and a seamstress? > > > > The seamstress tucks up the frills. > > > > What did the drummer get on his IQ test" > > > > Drool. > > > > How can you tell if a drummer is at your door? > > > > He keeps knocking faster. > > Further on this theme . . . > > How can you tell when a female singer is at your door? > She knocks, but doesn't know when to enter. > > What is the differance between an onion and a clarinet? > you cry when you chop up an onion. > > Bob -- This has been Mark and/or Mary Shannon at Shingend@ix.netcom.com History manages to get away with cliches no novelist could. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 13:34:59 -0400 From: James Gibbons To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Menckhoff's Albatros Message-ID: <01BD6D2A.4A925540.jgibbons@vppsa.com> I was wondering if anyone has any information on color schemes for Ltn. Menckhoff's Jasta 3 Albatros. In particular I am interested in the aircraft that he would have been flying on September 23, 1917 when he allegedly came to the aid (briefly) of Voss in his fight against 56 squadron. In the absence of information on Menckhoff's own aircraft, information on Jasta 3's markings around this time would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer. James Gibbons ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 12:31:04 -0500 From: "Lee Mensinger" To: wwi, "Lee Mensinger" , smh@iapc.net Subject: Re: Sanding Message-ID: <353CD7D8.91FBCBE9@wireweb.net> The sanding problem is always enhanced by the filler, so one way to ease up the situation is to change the way you use filler. If an opening is wide I always use a sheet filler cut to general shape and size and inserted into the space. This allows you to apply a thin layer of filler that dries quicker and shrinks less. It also allows you to try different methods using putty. There is probably no "one right way" to do this but there is a thing you can try. It works. Using most putties, white, green, blue, Squadron etc. Take a small amount and thin it a bit with Testors metalizer thinner. Don't over do it. A full flowing liquid is not the idea. Just make it more workable. Take the more viscous solution and put it in the crack, slot or opening with a Q-tip and smooth it in place, using a little more than you need. Done close to right it can be allowed to dry a bit and then using the metalizer thinner on a Q-tip (a different one) smooth out the excess gently and allow the thing to dry the rest of the way. This creates a whole no world in filler since you have less or very little remaining to sand away. This allows you to not sand away adjacent detail. Often when the filler surface is nearly dry you can still remove a bit of the putty. Check out more very useful tips and hints at the IPMS Houston site... web-hou.iapc.net/~smh Lee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:09:45 +0200 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Message-ID: <01BD6D59.42701300@fei1-p12.telepac.pt> My turn to kneel and beg for absolution, for I too have committed = several sins. Being a recent convert will play in my favour though, but = I will not repent, since I know it's in my nature. I will build anything I feel enthusiastic about at some point and so = I've done aircraft, autos, armour, trucks, figurines and even a = locomotive. The only thing I don't feel particularly inclined to are = boats, but that may someday change too. Nonetheless a/c were my first passion and it's still my favourite theme = with a strong bias towards propellers. I also like early jets but I = haven't build any design that was made after '60. WW1 wise, I'm on my 4th build since joining The list, and I believe I'm = stuck with this theme for life, if not for the aircraft themselves then = for the great joy I have in sharing this list with such a magnificent = bunch of fellows. Um abraco Pedro BTW - since someone mentioned the Warlord Chronicles (I'm at present = going through Vol. 2. - Enemy of God) may I'd like to point out to that = someone the Pendragon Cycle, by Stephen Lawhead, (You've probably read = it but if you didn't I can tell you that I enjoyed it much),. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:18:32 +0200 From: Pedro e Francisca Soares To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Shane's models Message-ID: <01BD6D5A.487A49E0@fei1-p12.telepac.pt> Shane, I took a Captain Cook at your gallery page and all I can say is: Great work, again. Um abraco Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:15:06 EDT From: r_niles@juno.com (Russell W Niles) To: wwi Subject: Re: Sins of the (Mostly) faithful, addendum Message-ID: <19980421.121535.8303.2.r_niles@juno.com> I forgot to mention, that I build exclusively in 1/48th and larger. These poor old eyes can't see that small. Russ Niles IPMS 4450 too close for missles.....switching to guns. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 991 *********************