WWI Digest 983

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Light at the End of the Tunnel
	by "Sandy Adam" <cbbs@almac.co.uk>
  2) Re: Smer SVA
	by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer)
  3) De-Lurking
	by Jim Elkins <jimelk@swbell.net>
  4) Re: Smer SVA
	by Matthew Zivich <mzivich@tardis.svsu.edu>
  5) Re: De-Lurking
	by Charles Hart <hartc@spot.colorado.edu>
  6) RE: Light at the End of the Tunnel
	by Pedro e Francisca Soares <pnsoares@mail.telepac.pt>
  7) RE: Decals
	by Pedro e Francisca Soares <pnsoares@mail.telepac.pt>
  8) Re: De-Lurking
	by Matthew Zivich <mzivich@tardis.svsu.edu>
  9) Wow!!
	by thayer@sirius.com (Thayer Syme)
 10) Re: Latest Superscale Decal Sheets
	by mbittner@juno.com
 11) Re: De-Lurking
	by mbittner@juno.com
 12) Re: Light at the End of the Tunnel
	by mbittner@juno.com
 13) Re: De-Lurking
	by Charles Hart <hartc@spot.colorado.edu>
 14) Re: De-Lurking
	by KarrArt <KarrArt@aol.com>
 15) RE: an offer and a request (SHORT 184, Linke Hoffman R.II)
	by Shane Weier <SDW@qld.mim.com.au>
 16) Re: Decals
	by "Leonard Endy" <lfendy@firstsaga.com>
 17) Bristol Boxkite
	by "Charles Duckworth" <cnlduckwor@ninenet.com>
 18) Pre-WWI Pyro/Inpact trade
	by "Charles Duckworth" <cnlduckwor@ninenet.com>
 19) Re:Americal Gryphon Decals
	by "Gerald P. McOsker" <amadon@efortress.com>
 20) Re: Decals
	by "Lee Mensinger" <lemen@wireweb.net>
 21) Re: Bristol Boxkite
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
 22) Re: Pre-WWI Pyro/Inpact trade
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
 23) Re: Smer SVA
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
 24) Re: Pre-WWI Pyro/Inpact trade
	by "Charles Duckworth" <cnlduckwor@ninenet.com>
 25) Re: Smer SVA
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
 26) Re: Pre-WWI Pyro/Inpact trade
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
 27) Re: Pre-WWI Pyro/Inpact trade
	by "Charles Duckworth" <cnlduckwor@ninenet.com>
 28) Re: Pre-WWI Pyro/Inpact trade
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
 29) Re: Smer SVA
	by REwing <REwing@aol.com>

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:09:47 +0100
From: "Sandy Adam" <cbbs@almac.co.uk>
To: <wwi>
Subject: Re: Light at the End of the Tunnel
Message-ID: <199804161702.SAA29291@beryl.sol.co.uk>

> That word was used liberally on every page and wherever it appeared
> there was the following " ( curs'ed be his name and may he and his seed
> perish forever from the face of the Earth ) "
> 
> Just curious - Does anyone have any similar Mess magazines from the
> either the German or US side with similar desparaging imprecations about
> the worthy foe ... or is this a peculiarly English thing

"Worthy foe"?
Auschwitz, Dachau, Treblinka, Sachsenhausen, Lidice, Warsaw ghetto,
Dunkerque pow burnings, Gestapo
tortures................................................
Unfortunately however much you admire the nice blonde, blue-eyed men with
their rakish uniforms and superb planes, tanks and ships - following in
their successful wake was the darkest night of the soul that Europe has
experienced in modern times.

World War 2 was not a gentlemanly game of rules with a few unfortunate
casualties - but a struggle of good against overwhelming evil. Sorry to get
serious David, but if future generations do not take this lesson from
history we will all be in big trouble once again.
Sandy

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:01:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer)
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Smer SVA
Message-ID: <199804161801.LAA05157@ednet1.orednet.org>




Matt wrote:

>If I'm not mistaking, this model is not 1/48 scale so I assume you would 
>want to be aware of that with aftermarket guns that are usually made in 
>the popular scales of 1/72 or 1/48.

It is 1/50 scale - but a 1/48 Vickers would only be 4% oversize.

That's not a discrepancy I would lose much sleep over - 
especially if the alternative were scratch-building
a 1/50 scale Vickers.



Cheers and all,


--
                     Bill Shatzer   - bshatzer@orednet.org



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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:39:15 -0700
From: Jim Elkins <jimelk@swbell.net>
To: wwi
Subject: De-Lurking
Message-ID: <35367A7D.5F4B9EE@swbell.net>


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"...my God Cap'n...list member delurking off the port bow..."

    Whilst looking through a local book-haven I found two copies of Famous
Aircraft of the National Air and Space Museum: deHavilland DH-4. Two copies
purchased.  One, if so desired to go to the list-library.  (Let me know if
you would like this title, O keeper of the pubs!) (Plus snail-mail to send
it to).

    Good photos of construction; mostly Liberty models.  And a chapter
devoted to the NASMs restoring effort. Upon first perusal, no mention of the
French depot questioned earlier, but photos of crated DH-4s arriving in
France.

    Does the list library contain any references containing 1/72 plans on
Salmson's?  I suppose the Flying Machine Press French acft edition would be
good, but a bit steep ($).  I am interested mainly in U.S. color schemes.

TIA,

Jim Elkins

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"...my God Cap'n...list member delurking off the port bow..."

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Whilst looking through a local book-haven I found
two copies of <I>Famous Aircraft of the National Air and Space Museum:
deHavilland DH-4</I>. Two copies purchased.&nbsp; One, if so desired to
go to the list-library.&nbsp; (Let me know if you would like this title,
O keeper of the pubs!) (Plus snail-mail to send it to).

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Good photos of construction; mostly Liberty models.&nbsp;
And a chapter devoted to the NASMs restoring effort. Upon first perusal,
no mention of the French depot questioned earlier, but photos of crated
DH-4s arriving in France.

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Does the list library contain any references containing
1/72 plans on Salmson's?&nbsp; I suppose the Flying Machine Press French
acft edition would be good, but a bit steep ($).&nbsp; I am interested
mainly in U.S. color schemes.

<P>TIA,

<P>Jim Elkins</HTML>

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:54:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matthew Zivich <mzivich@tardis.svsu.edu>
To: wwi
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <wwi>
Subject: Re: Smer SVA
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.980416154710.22636A-100000@tardis.svsu.edu>

Ah, but accuracy seems to be the name of the game judging by the gist of 
much List correspondence.  Rise to the challenge and scratch build 1/50 
guns.  You'll feel better in the morning.

Matt Z.

On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Bill Shatzer wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Matt wrote:
> 
> >If I'm not mistaking, this model is not 1/48 scale so I assume you would 
> >want to be aware of that with aftermarket guns that are usually made in 
> >the popular scales of 1/72 or 1/48.
> 
> It is 1/50 scale - but a 1/48 Vickers would only be 4% oversize.
> 
> That's not a discrepancy I would lose much sleep over - 
> especially if the alternative were scratch-building
> a 1/50 scale Vickers.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers and all,
> 
> 
> --
>                      Bill Shatzer   - bshatzer@orednet.org
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:02:25 -0700
From: Charles Hart <hartc@spot.colorado.edu>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: De-Lurking
Message-ID: <l03102801b15c21659efb@[128.138.153.98]>


>
>    Does the list library contain any references containing 1/72 plans on
>Salmson's?  I suppose the Flying Machine Press French acft edition would be
>good, but a bit steep ($).  I am interested mainly in U.S. color schemes.
>
>TIA,
>
>Jim Elkins

     USAS Salmsons are going to look pretty similar to French Salmsons,
except the Americans changed the order of colors on the cockades and added
some squadron and perhaps personal marks.  No dramatic difference actually.
Apart from the FMP French tome, there isn't much information out there on
this type, or at least not much that is in an easy to find place.  List
members with databases at the ready should be able to provide sources of
the obscure data.

Charles

hartc@spot.colorado.edu



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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:55:19 +0200
From: Pedro e Francisca Soares <pnsoares@mail.telepac.pt>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi>
Subject: RE: Light at the End of the Tunnel
Message-ID: <01BD6979.FB8CA620@fei1-p12.telepac.pt>



-----Original Message-----
From:	mbittner@juno.com [SMTP:mbittner@juno.com]
Sent:	Thursday, April 16, 1998 12:00 PM
To:	Multiple recipients of list
Subject:	Light at the End of the Tunnel

Yes, I can see the light!!
(ask if you're curious how I made the sight).

..
Matt Bittner

So you made the sight to see the light?
Let me know, I'm curious.

;-)

Um abraco

Pedro

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:55:04 +0200
From: Pedro e Francisca Soares <pnsoares@mail.telepac.pt>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi>
Subject: RE: Decals
Message-ID: <01BD6979.F5B856E0@fei1-p12.telepac.pt>



-----Original Message-----
From:	mbittner@juno.com [SMTP:mbittner@juno.com]
Sent:	Thursday, April 16, 1998 4:15 AM
To:	Multiple recipients of list
Subject:	Decals

How does everybody handle decals?  What do you use to put them on; what
do you put them on (e.g. Future, etc.)?

How do you eliminate "all traces" of the decal, so it looks like it's
painted on?

Just curious.


Matt Bittner

Matt,

Try the future method I posted a while ago and that Lee also said it's =
ok. Try it on an old wing for instance just to see how it works. After =
the future dries (the floor shine I mean:-) the decaled surfaces will =
look quite messy because of the different shines of the areas =
with/without future. But once you spray a final varnish coat to even out =
the finish, it simply looks smashing.

HTH

Pedro

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:04:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matthew Zivich <mzivich@tardis.svsu.edu>
To: wwi
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <wwi>
Subject: Re: De-Lurking
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.980416155710.22636B-100000@tardis.svsu.edu>

Re: Salmsons
	Scale Aircraft Drawings reissue from Model Airplane News has a 
color scheme for U.S. & French versions and Pegasus has a US version also.  
There are some perhaps slight differences between the US camouflage 
colors in the two plans though the same plane is illustrated.

Matt Z.

On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Jim Elkins wrote:

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> "...my God Cap'n...list member delurking off the port bow..."
> 
>     Whilst looking through a local book-haven I found two copies of Famous
> Aircraft of the National Air and Space Museum: deHavilland DH-4. Two copies
> purchased.  One, if so desired to go to the list-library.  (Let me know if
> you would like this title, O keeper of the pubs!) (Plus snail-mail to send
> it to).
> 
>     Good photos of construction; mostly Liberty models.  And a chapter
> devoted to the NASMs restoring effort. Upon first perusal, no mention of the
> French depot questioned earlier, but photos of crated DH-4s arriving in
> France.
> 
>     Does the list library contain any references containing 1/72 plans on
> Salmson's?  I suppose the Flying Machine Press French acft edition would be
> good, but a bit steep ($).  I am interested mainly in U.S. color schemes.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Jim Elkins
> 
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> 
> <HTML>
> "...my God Cap'n...list member delurking off the port bow..."
> 
> <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Whilst looking through a local book-haven I found
> two copies of <I>Famous Aircraft of the National Air and Space Museum:
> deHavilland DH-4</I>. Two copies purchased.&nbsp; One, if so desired to
> go to the list-library.&nbsp; (Let me know if you would like this title,
> O keeper of the pubs!) (Plus snail-mail to send it to).
> 
> <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Good photos of construction; mostly Liberty models.&nbsp;
> And a chapter devoted to the NASMs restoring effort. Upon first perusal,
> no mention of the French depot questioned earlier, but photos of crated
> DH-4s arriving in France.
> 
> <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Does the list library contain any references containing
> 1/72 plans on Salmson's?&nbsp; I suppose the Flying Machine Press French
> acft edition would be good, but a bit steep ($).&nbsp; I am interested
> mainly in U.S. color schemes.
> 
> <P>TIA,
> 
> <P>Jim Elkins</HTML>
> 
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> 

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:26:53 -0700
From: thayer@sirius.com (Thayer Syme)
To: wwi
Subject: Wow!!
Message-ID: <b15c19b8020210048c30@[205.134.241.12]>

In search of a little inspiration?  Check out the flying scale jewels by
Chris Parent.

One of the models is a wonderful Albatros D-V

Follow the links to the 'gallery', or 'what's new' on my site.

Thayer

--

Thayer Syme                                            Model Aviation Homepage
San Francisco      http://www.sirius.com/~thayer/modelhp.html



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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:54:01 -0500
From: mbittner@juno.com
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Latest Superscale Decal Sheets
Message-ID: <19980416.155414.14278.2.mbittner@juno.com>

On Thu, 16 Apr 1998 03:50:10 -0400 Graham Nash
<graham.nash@citicorp.com> writes:

> Can anyone who has the new 1/72nd Scale Decal Sheets 72770 and
> 72771 confirm that these contain markings previously provided on
> earlier but now-discontinued sheets?
>
> What new material is contained on either sheet?

These were discussed when they first came out, but since I have
72-770, I'll give you a brief run down.  Someone else will have
to provide 72-771.

Lowenhardt's all natural, green/grayish violet wings
Barenfanger's all red fuselage, green/mauve wings w/bear markings
Voss' famous one
von Bertrab's all dark gray fuselage, brown/olive wing with bow
markings

None of these coincide with the earlier Jasta 5 D.III/D.V decal
sheet, which is - I think - the only other Albatros sheet from
Superscale besides 770 and 771.

Looking at these sheets make me pine for a D.III and D.V
(correct, of course!) to be released from Toko.  What a wish!


Matt Bittner

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:43:37 -0500
From: mbittner@juno.com
To: wwi
Subject: Re: De-Lurking
Message-ID: <19980416.155414.14278.0.mbittner@juno.com>

On Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:58:51 -0400 Charles Hart
<hartc@spot.colorado.edu> writes:

> USAS Salmsons are going to look pretty similar to French
> Salmsons, except the Americans changed the order of colors on
> the cockades and added some squadron and perhaps personal marks.
> No dramatic difference actually.  Apart from the FMP French
> tome, there isn't much information out there on this type, or at
> least not much that is in an easy to find place.  List members
> with databases at the ready should be able to provide sources of
> the obscure data.

Besides the FMP tome, I show the following on the Salmson:

Over the Front did a bit on Colors, Vol 5 No 4
Windsock, Vol 3 No 2 and Vol 6 No 2 has "Photo's" (sorry, but the
db doesn't metion anything past that - I must update this)
Windsock, Vol 3 No 1 has a review of the Wings 72 vac, and Vol 7
No 6 has a review of the Pegasus
WW1 Aero #118, 149 and 154 are all Cockpits/Instruments

That's it.  I believe there's a surviving example at the US Air
Force Museum, so you might ask if anybody has taken any photo's
of it.

Isn't this planned (and announced) as a future release as a
Datafile?  Definitely one that is needed.


Matt Bittner

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:56:30 -0500
From: mbittner@juno.com
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Light at the End of the Tunnel
Message-ID: <19980416.160031.14278.3.mbittner@juno.com>

On Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:05:03 -0400 Pedro e Francisca Soares
<pnsoares@mail.telepac.pt> writes:

>So you made the sight to see the light?
>Let me know, I'm curious.

Bwahahahaha!  <chuckle>

There's one in every crowd...

What, you want to know how I made the Le Prieur sight, or were you being
facetious?


Matt Bittner

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:19:02 -0700
From: Charles Hart <hartc@spot.colorado.edu>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: De-Lurking
Message-ID: <l03102802b15c3358d698@[128.138.153.98]>

>On Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:58:51 -0400 Charles Hart
><hartc@spot.colorado.edu> writes:
>
>> USAS Salmsons are going to look pretty similar to French
>> Salmsons, except the Americans changed the order of colors on
>> the cockades and added some squadron and perhaps personal marks.
>> No dramatic difference actually.  Apart from the FMP French
>> tome, there isn't much information out there on this type, or at
>> least not much that is in an easy to find place.  List members
>> with databases at the ready should be able to provide sources of
>> the obscure data.

Matt writes:

>Besides the FMP tome, I show the following on the Salmson:
>
>Over the Front did a bit on Colors, Vol 5 No 4
>Windsock, Vol 3 No 2 and Vol 6 No 2 has "Photo's" (sorry, but the
>db doesn't metion anything past that - I must update this)
>Windsock, Vol 3 No 1 has a review of the Wings 72 vac, and Vol 7
>No 6 has a review of the Pegasus
>WW1 Aero #118, 149 and 154 are all Cockpits/Instruments
>
>That's it.  I believe there's a surviving example at the US Air
>Force Museum, so you might ask if anybody has taken any photo's
>of it.

     There is NO Salmson at the USAFM.  I believe that the only bits of a
surviving Salmson-type airframe are in Japan, though I believe that this is
a Japanese built copy of the 2A2.  WW I Aero has mentioned this over the
years.

>Isn't this planned (and announced) as a future release as a
>Datafile?  Definitely one that is needed.

     Apart from M-S types, SPADs and Nieuports, French machines have gotten
limited attention from Ray Rimell and Albatros pubs.

Charles

hartc@spot.colorado.edu



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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:33:42 EDT
From: KarrArt <KarrArt@aol.com>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: De-Lurking
Message-ID: <9847064d.35367938@aol.com>

In a message dated 98-04-16 16:55:25 EDT, you write:

<< Besides the FMP tome, I show the following on the Salmson:
 
 Over the Front did a bit on Colors, Vol 5 No 4
 Windsock, Vol 3 No 2 and Vol 6 No 2 has "Photo's" (sorry, but the
 db doesn't metion anything past that - I must update this)
 Windsock, Vol 3 No 1 has a review of the Wings 72 vac, and Vol 7
 No 6 has a review of the Pegasus
 WW1 Aero #118, 149 and 154 are all Cockpits/Instruments
  >>
Salmsons were I believe covered in the C&C US "Project Butterfly" on French
patterns and colors. I'll have to check
Robert K.

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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:51:41 +1000
From: Shane Weier <SDW@qld.mim.com.au>
To: wwi
Subject: RE: an offer and a request (SHORT 184, Linke Hoffman R.II)
Message-ID: <199804162203.IAA00962@mimmon.mim.com.au>

Phillip

You asked (while I was 800 miles from my Windsocks)

>shane, i noticed that the L-H stuff you sent was part of a windsock
series; 
>just for interest's sake, do you recall the other riesenflugzeug
covered?

And I can answer, courtesy of a laptop at 24,000 feet

As far as my database is concerned the series only covered the two
Linke-Hoffmans and the Shutte Lanze R.27

Shane

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:40:28 GMT
From: "Leonard Endy" <lfendy@firstsaga.com>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Decals
Message-ID: <35369583.852517@legend.firstsaga.com>

On Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:05:13 -0400, you wrote:

>How does everybody handle decals?  What do you use to put them on; what
>do you put them on (e.g. Future, etc.)?
>
>How do you eliminate "all traces" of the decal, so it looks like it's
>painted on?
>
Matt,

The key to good decal application is a glossy surface. Future
obviously provides that, as well as extra adhesion. Some modelers add
a little white glue to their decal soaking water which can help also.

On models I've finished with the new Polly Scale paints I've found the
surface to be extremely smooth and have had great success using
micro-set and micro-sol.

If you find after a decal sets that you have "silvering" you can poke
tiny holes in the affected areas and coat with one of the setting
solutions to get the decals to lie down completely.

Len


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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:02:38 -0500
From: "Charles Duckworth" <cnlduckwor@ninenet.com>
To: <wwi>
Subject: Bristol Boxkite
Message-ID: <199804170001.TAA13520@mail.primary.net>

Does anyone know where I might locate plans for a Bristol Boxkite to help
me with the rigging.  I've found only couple of photo sources does anyone
have any books they recommend for period shots.

Thanks, Charlie

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:13:02 -0500
From: "Charles Duckworth" <cnlduckwor@ninenet.com>
To: "ww1list" <wwi>
Subject: Pre-WWI Pyro/Inpact trade
Message-ID: <199804170011.TAA16131@mail.primary.net>

I recently picked up an extra AVRO biplane and am wondering if anyone on
the list would want to trade for the Pyro or Inpact 1/48 1911
Martin-Handasyde (this is the only model of the series I don't have).
Please contact me off the list.  Thanks Charlie.


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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:30:20 -0400
From: "Gerald P. McOsker" <amadon@efortress.com>
To: wwi
Subject: Re:Americal Gryphon Decals
Message-ID: <v04003a00b15c521dee60@[205.181.168.12]>

 I am sorting through the mess of material that  was damaged in my flooded
cellar on February 18th  and have come upon my Americal Gryphon decals- I
generally know what I paid for them by sheet however I believe that
replacing the same would be higher- Does anyone know if they have a web
page with the current prices listed??
At the same time in peeling apart water soaked Windsocks and Datafiles I
have become tremendously impressed with the body of work- especially as to
colors and ,odels tha tRimmell has put together over the years.- I really
have bitched a bit over Polish Brisfits and Soviet D7s but on the whole he
has brought a tremndous blessing to out little compulsion.
Cheese-
Gerry



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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:36:18 -0500
From: "Lee Mensinger" <lemen@wireweb.net>
To: wwi, mbittner@juno.com
Subject: Re: Decals
Message-ID: <3536A401.9E077D09@wireweb.net>

mbittner@juno.com wrote:

> How does everybody handle decals?  What do you use to put them on;
> what
> do you put them on (e.g. Future, etc.)?
>
> How do you eliminate "all traces" of the decal, so it looks like it's
> painted on?
>
> Just curious.
>
> Matt Bittner

Matt a Q tip moistened with Future.  The decal is in the water.  Use the
moist Q tip to make a small puddle of Future in the decal location,
Bring up the decal and remove from backing sheet.  Place same in Future
puddle.  Move near to location desired and put a sma;; amount of  Future
on the top of the decal.  Slide gently to exact location and wait.You
can shorten the wait by having an "open" 100" or "150" watt bulb
available.  Do not take much of the lioquid off of the model.  It works
like a weak setting solution.  Hold the decal position near,  obviously
not on>  the bare lamp and let some of the heat assist in drying.  Most
prefer the smaller bulb sine it seems to let the decal "snuggle" better
and it seems to help eliminate "silvering".
All this presumes a gloss or at least a semi-gloss finish in the first
place.  Try it on a piece of scrap with one of those "cloth" finishes
and see the effect.  All the difference in the world.    Lee

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:08:34 -0500
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Bristol Boxkite
Message-ID: <3536AB92.1A2D@bellsouth.net>

Charles Duckworth wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know where I might locate plans for a Bristol Boxkite to help
> me with the rigging.  I've found only couple of photo sources does anyone
> have any books they recommend for period shots.
> 
> Thanks, Charlie

Charlie,

I may have something. I'll check and let you know.

Ernest

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:11:55 -0500
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Pre-WWI Pyro/Inpact trade
Message-ID: <3536AC5B.3102@bellsouth.net>

Charles Duckworth wrote:
> 
> I recently picked up an extra AVRO biplane and am wondering if anyone on
> the list would want to trade for the Pyro or Inpact 1/48 1911
> Martin-Handasyde (this is the only model of the series I don't have).
> Please contact me off the list.  Thanks Charlie.

Charlie,

Do you mean AVRO bi-plane or tri-plane? I don't have the kit you're
looking for, but if no one else does either, Maybe we can make a trade
for something else. But that's only if it's the bi-plane. I already have
the tri-plane.

Ernest

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:21:59 -0500
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Smer SVA
Message-ID: <3536AEB7.7C62@bellsouth.net>

Mary-Ann/Michael wrote:
> 
> At 12:25 AM 4/16/98 -0400, Ernest Thomas wrote:
> >And if you're interested, I'm basing mine on the A/C at the top of page
> >6 in the Datafile. But I think I'll mottle the wings just because I'm
> >interested in trying that effect. But it will be fitted with at least
> >one generic Vickers 303. Thanks again.
>         I did a St. Mark's Sq. airplane and used a q-tip to get the mottled
> effect...looked pretty good IMHO. I only used 1 mg...an old Atlee resin.
> Mike Muth
Thanks for the tip on the Altee gun. Think this might still be
available? I think Aeroclub makes a vickers gun that I could get from
Tom's. Doesn't really matter though. Now that I know what it is, I'll do
a bootleg cast of the DML Vickers guns if I can't find something else.

I know! I'll ask all the nice guys on the list. Anybody got a spare 1/48
Vickers .303 they would be willing to part with?

Ernest

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:30:44 -0500
From: "Charles Duckworth" <cnlduckwor@ninenet.com>
To: <wwi>
Subject: Re: Pre-WWI Pyro/Inpact trade
Message-ID: <199804170132.UAA12326@mail.primary.net>

It's the biplane I want to trade off, just finished my own model and it
came out nicely but don't want to build another.

Will let you know if nothing comes up,  if you need it and I can't come up
with a trade I can always offer it to you for sale.

Charlie  

----------
> From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> Subject: Re: Pre-WWI Pyro/Inpact trade
> Date: Thursday, April 16, 1998 8:17 PM
> 
> Charles Duckworth wrote:
> > 
> > I recently picked up an extra AVRO biplane and am wondering if anyone
on
> > the list would want to trade for the Pyro or Inpact 1/48 1911
> > Martin-Handasyde (this is the only model of the series I don't have).
> > Please contact me off the list.  Thanks Charlie.
> 
> Charlie,
> 
> Do you mean AVRO bi-plane or tri-plane? I don't have the kit you're
> looking for, but if no one else does either, Maybe we can make a trade
> for something else. But that's only if it's the bi-plane. I already have
> the tri-plane.
> 
> Ernest

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:39:07 -0500
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Smer SVA
Message-ID: <3536B2BB.27C4@bellsouth.net>

Matthew Zivich wrote:
> 
> Ah, but accuracy seems to be the name of the game judging by the gist of
> much List correspondence.  Rise to the challenge and scratch build 1/50
> guns.  You'll feel better in the morning.
> 
> Matt Z.

Matt Z. and Bill Shatzer,

Thanks for all the feedback on my SVA project. Sorry Matt, but I have to
agree with Bill on the gun issue, I'm not gonna loose sleep over a 1/48
gun on a 1/50 model. While the list correspondence appears to stress
accuracy, I stand with the party that stresses fun/hobby. Especially if
the 1/48 gun doesn't have to be scratched. Besides, my math skills are
so bad, I would probably end up making it the wrong size anyway.
One of you guys told me how the bungies are wrapped, but what I was
really asking was what material would you use to make them on the model?
Now on the coweling, I plan to use copper foil just like I did on my
Eindecker. Have either of you guys ever tried making louvres in foil?
Any tips, hints, advice...? 

Ernest

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:42:14 -0500
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Pre-WWI Pyro/Inpact trade
Message-ID: <3536B376.6E2C@bellsouth.net>

Charles Duckworth wrote:
> 
> It's the biplane I want to trade off, just finished my own model and it
> came out nicely but don't want to build another.
> 
> Will let you know if nothing comes up,  if you need it and I can't come up
> with a trade I can always offer it to you for sale.
> 
> Charlie
> 

That sounds good too. How much would we be talking about if it comes
down to dollars? 

Ernest

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:49:22 -0500
From: "Charles Duckworth" <cnlduckwor@ninenet.com>
To: <wwi>
Subject: Re: Pre-WWI Pyro/Inpact trade
Message-ID: <199804170248.VAA03231@mail.primary.net>

> That sounds good too. How much would we be talking about if it comes
> down to dollars? 
> 
> Ernest

If you live in the U.S. $15 (includes postage - this is what I've been
paying) if outside and not sure as I just mail a kit to the Phillipines and
postage was $8.15.


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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:10:17 -0500
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Pre-WWI Pyro/Inpact trade
Message-ID: <3536C819.6977@bellsouth.net>

Charles Duckworth wrote:
> 
> > That sounds good too. How much would we be talking about if it comes
> > down to dollars?
> >
> > Ernest
> 
> If you live in the U.S. $15 (includes postage - this is what I've been
> paying) if outside and not sure as I just mail a kit to the Phillipines and
> postage was $8.15.


Ok. That sounds great. I am in the good ole U.S.of A. so I get the lower
price(HOORAAAYYY!!!). Hope you get the model you're looking for, but
I'll take it off your hands if you don't. Let me know.

Ernest

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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:01:27 EDT
From: REwing <REwing@aol.com>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Smer SVA
Message-ID: <ad0ebff0.3536e229@aol.com>


<< Now on the coweling, I plan to use copper foil just like I did on my
 Eindecker.  >>

Ernest,
Why are you using copper foil.  Couldn't you use Bare Metal Foil to get the
metal effect?
Just wondering,
-Rick-

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