WWI Digest 969 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: More on WW1 1/35th non-aircraft by Alberto Rada 2) Re: More on WW1 1/35th non-aircraft by Alberto Rada 3) Re: Price quotes (Wings vacs & Eduard) by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 4) C&C 28/4 / OTF seminar (again) by Bob Pearson 5) Re: Price quotes (Wings vacs & Eduard) by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 6) Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? by r_niles@juno.com (Russell W Niles) 7) Re: Price quotes (Wings vacs & Eduard) by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 8) Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? by bucky@postoffice.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 9) Re: More on WW1 1/35th non-aircraft by GRBroman 10) Re: More on WW1 1/35th non-aircraft by GRBroman 11) Re: Price quotes (Wings vacs & Eduard) by "Peter Crow" <888444222@email.msn.com> 12) Re: Price quotes (Wings vacs & Eduard) by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 13) balsa by Carlos Valdes 14) Re: C&C 28/4 / OTF seminar (again) by Alberto Rada 15) Re: Toms Modelworks by Ernest Thomas 16) Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? by KarrArt 17) Re: Old Bill Bus by "Charles Duckworth" 18) Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? -Reply by Peter Mitchell 19) Re: Price quotes (Wings vacs & Eduard) by REwing 20) Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? -Reply by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 21) Re: Price quotes (Wings vacs & Eduard) by Ernest Thomas 22) Re: Price quotes (Wings vacs & Eduard) by REwing 23) Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? -Reply by "Eli Geher" 24) Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? -Reply by KarrArt 25) Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? -Reply by Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton 26) Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? -Reply by Bill Bacon 27) Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? by hans.juergen.glueck@gis-online.de 28) TOKO Landings at Hannants UK by Graham Nash 29) Re: TOKO Landings at Hannants UK by Bob Pearson 30) Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? -Reply by bucky@postoffice.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 31) Re: Tom's Modelworks Pfalz D.XII by John & Allison Cyganowski ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 17:12:50 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: More on WW1 1/35th non-aircraft Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980405171250.0081a820@argonaut.net> Hi Do you have their code No. for the Bill bus SALUDOS Alberto At 01:11 PM 05-04-98 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-04-05 09:09:05 EDT, you write: > ><< Well this reminded me of the following; Airfix also reissued their pre-WW1 > Ford, Renault and Rolls in 1/32 scale >> > >To follow Mr. Duckworths post, they also have an Old Bill bus that can be made >into one that was used on the Somme front as troop transport. Emhar has also >(apparently) announced a 1/35 Renault FT-17. Life is good. :) Glen > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 17:17:03 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: More on WW1 1/35th non-aircraft Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980405171703.00819900@argonaut.net> Hi Anyone knows where can these be found on the Mail order world SALUDOS Alberto At 01:11 PM 05-04-98 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-04-05 09:09:05 EDT, you write: > ><< Well this reminded me of the following; Airfix also reissued their pre-WW1 > Ford, Renault and Rolls in 1/32 scale >> > >To follow Mr. Duckworths post, they also have an Old Bill bus that can be made >into one that was used on the Somme front as troop transport. Emhar has also >(apparently) announced a 1/35 Renault FT-17. Life is good. :) Glen > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 14:33:03 -0700 (PDT) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Price quotes (Wings vacs & Eduard) Message-ID: <199804052133.OAA21422@ednet1.orednet.org> Riordan writes: >Speaking of the local chiseler, I noticed a 1/72 Wings Breguet 14 sans >decals but with injected struts for $11.25 and Salmson 2A2 similarly >ill-equiped for $13.25. Both have all the metal bits, BTW. Also, there's >a Merlin Strutter for $15.00 Are these reasonable prices? The prices are certainly within the ranges of the current suggested values for these oop kits as listed in the most recent Kit Collectors' Value Guide - although I'm not sure whether the Wings kits are actually out of production rather than just "only occassionally produced". Still, the prices you mention are pretty close to their original issue price for the Wings kits in any case. Frankly, I've never been overly impressed with the quality of the Merlin kits - the price is "fair" but whether the kit is worth it, even at a "fair" price is debatable. >At a different non-extortionist shop, there're a stack of Eduard H-B >D-1s for $24.95. Barring swap-meets & shows, Is this the best price I >can get for this o-o-p kit? Probably this is close to the best price - the sticker on mine shows that I got mine new several years ago at $22.50 - and the $24.95 price seems to be the standard price for the current crop of Eduard single seaters without the cast metal goodies. Of course, you might do better if you stumble across someone with a close-out sale but if you want the kit, I'd grab it at $24.95. Otherwise, while waiting around to try and save $5 or so, you may find 'em all gone and the only way to get one is to pay dreaded "collectors' prices" - which is almost certain to be a bit more than $24.95. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:08:35 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: C&C 28/4 / OTF seminar (again) Message-ID: <23083529409160@KAIEN.COM> Greetings all, I received my copy of C&C 29/1 on Friday, but find I still haven't received 28/4. Anyone else have this happen to them? This is the first time in 11 years that any of the journals has gone amiss. I sent Andy Kemp (the name listed on their website) an email and asked if he knows who I should contact. And on to my favourite topic . . . .who will I meet in Phoenix in four weeks. I know Bill Bacon, Bill Ciciora, David Layton, Mike Muth and Rick Ewing are going, but is anyone else? Regards, Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 16:14:59 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Price quotes (Wings vacs & Eduard) Message-ID: <35281073.1F36@ricochet.net> Bill Shatzer wrote: > The prices are certainly within the ranges of the current suggested > values for these oop kits as listed in the most recent Kit Collectors' > Value Guide Which end of the range, upper or lower (or middle)? Also, were these issued at one time or another with decals? > Frankly, I've never been overly impressed with the quality of > the Merlin kits - the price is "fair" but whether the kit is > worth it, even at a "fair" price is debatable. I heard that. I'm all but resigned to wait for Toko anyhow. > Probably this is close to the best price - the sticker on > mine shows that I got mine new several years ago at > $22.50 - and the $24.95 price seems to be the standard price > for the current crop of Eduard single seaters without the > cast metal goodies. Of course, you might do better if you > stumble across someone with a close-out sale but if you want > the kit, I'd grab it at $24.95. Otherwise, while waiting > around to try and save $5 or so, you may find 'em all gone > and the only way to get one is to pay dreaded "collectors' > prices" - which is almost certain to be a bit more than > $24.95. As there is a stack, I plan to monitor the H-B population until it declines to a few individuals, which is how I ended up buying the Hannover for $31.49+. Darius's theorem postulates that the threshold for single-place, single-engine 1/48 injection fighter kits seems to be around $35 for WWII and around ten dollars less for WWI kits. At the $35 level, kits approach the price of power tools, and are not as easily justifiable purchases for those with finite resources, and/ or spouses and significant others who prefer more pragmatic hobbies (such as furniture-building or other woodworking skills) in their mates. Vac prices/values are highly variable, being largely consumed by malcontents and feinds, and do not fit into any known uniform continuum :-) Thanks for the reply, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 19:21:20 EDT From: r_niles@juno.com (Russell W Niles) To: wwi Subject: Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? Message-ID: <19980405.162110.12055.0.r_niles@juno.com> >Header says it all - the nice people I work for are sending me to the >land of Albatros and Gotha later this year for a bit of training. Now >while I don't really model their machines -unless they have got >floats- >it seems to good an opportunity to miss. > >I'll be based near Hanover but mobile, and should have three weekends >free and hopefully will be able to take afew days leave at the same >time. > >What are the recommendations from the brethren and sistren of the list >for matters aeronautical and maritime? If there are any railay nuts on >the list, then that's another little vice I have. > >TIA > >Aidrian > You lucky dog!!!!! 31 years ago next month I left that gorgeous country for the second time, vowing to return again some day. Well I have not been back yet, but someday..... Any chances of stowing away in say a steamer trunk? Oh well, my wife would not appreciate me being gone that long anyway. I always said that I would take her there with me the next time I go back. Have a great time. Russ Niles IPMS 4450 Too close for missles....switching to guns. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 17:56:19 -0700 (PDT) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Price quotes (Wings vacs & Eduard) Message-ID: <199804060056.RAA19335@ednet1.orednet.org> Riordan writes: >Bill Shatzer wrote: >> The prices are certainly within the ranges of the current suggested >> values for these oop kits as listed in the most recent Kit Collectors' >> Value Guide >Which end of the range, upper or lower (or middle)? Also, were these >issued at one time or another with decals? Middle, mostly. The Merlin is listed at $12-$17 while the Wings kits are $10-$15. The Wings kits are probably the better kits but the collectors don't generally go for vacuforms which holds down the value on those. 'Course the vacuform Graf Zeppelin is a whole nuther story! I don't think Wings kits ever had decals - I never owned these two particular kits but the Wings kits I did purchase came "sans decals". >> Frankly, I've never been overly impressed with the quality of >> the Merlin kits - the price is "fair" but whether the kit is >> worth it, even at a "fair" price is debatable. >I heard that. I'm all but resigned to wait for Toko anyhow. Probably the wisest choice unless you just _have_ to have a Sopwith Strutter NOW. -snips- Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:04:14 -0400 From: bucky@postoffice.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? Message-ID: <199804060104.VAA17674@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 10:51 AM 4/5/98 -0400, Alberto Rada wrote: > >Hi Aidrian > >Would not know about Hanover, but if you are able to goto >Munich in Bavaria, THEN , you have the Deutsche Museum, >impressive aviation and marine show rooms, they even have a >U boat , or better said half a U-boat, so you can see all the parts etc. >Lots of Aeroplanes etc. so its really worth the visit. For a full U-boat, I believe they still have one at the Museum of Science & Industry in Chicago...at least they did many years ago. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:07:46 EDT From: GRBroman To: wwi Subject: Re: More on WW1 1/35th non-aircraft Message-ID: In a message dated 98-04-05 12:36:27 EDT, you write: << @#%&! When is somebone going to make an affordable injection kit of the first modern tank? I think it might be very popular amongst tread heads. I guess I should get off my duff and write a letter or two to RPM and some other Eastern Bloc companies... >> It has been anoouced ( apparently) by Emhar *and* I offer the following from Poland "Most interesting news come from VM - all models in 1/35" PzBefWg. 38(t) Ausf. C PzKpfw. 38(t) Ausf. G InstandsetzungsPz. 38(t) with Maybach engine, HL 120 TRM and transmission for PzKpfw.IV Valentine Infantry Tank Mk. VIII-XI Highly accurate suspension & track for Pz 38 (t) 2cm Hangelafette 38 turret for SdKfz. 140/1, 222, 250/9, 251/23, 234/1 Engine and compartment for Pz 38(t) and Hetzer Russian A/A gun 76,2 mm/85mm md. 1938/39 Russian artillery crew & rangefinder *The FT-17 - the release has been postponed again, it will probably become available sometime in first quarter of 1998.* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:33:57 EDT From: GRBroman To: wwi Subject: Re: More on WW1 1/35th non-aircraft Message-ID: <54fb5855.35283106@aol.com> In a message dated 98-04-05 17:13:50 EDT, you write: << Hi Do you have their code No. for the Bill bus SALUDOS >> Unfortunately, no. The one I have is an old release, I believe they may have changed it on the last release. I checked and it is not listed in the 97 catalog. Glen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:48:12 -0700 From: "Peter Crow" <888444222@email.msn.com> To: Subject: Re: Price quotes (Wings vacs & Eduard) Message-ID: <0f96d3449010648UPIMSSMTPUSR01@email.msn.com> ---------- > > > I don't think Wings kits ever had decals - I never owned these > two particular kits but the Wings kits I did purchase came "sans decals". The Wings "Lohner Type L'' in 1/72 came with decals, as I had two of them... Peter Crow 888444222@msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 18:46:45 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Price quotes (Wings vacs & Eduard) Message-ID: <35283405.192E@ricochet.net> Bill Shatzer wrote: > I don't think Wings kits ever had decals - I never owned these > two particular kits but the Wings kits I did purchase came "sans decals" Well, the Wings 1/72 Lohner 'L' flying boat and H-B W-12 have 'em, and the Wings 1/48 Salmson 2A2 includes lovely large 6-choice sheets-almost too many choices, if that's possible. Not that it's worth $35+ to yours truly-at least not yet :-). I'll have to actually at least start building a vac (rather than just cutting one out) before I invest in more of them. Even though the detail is a bit soft on the Salmson's louvers, those are awfully nice vacs...I can probably cobble together cocades and markings for 'em...What's the going rate for a Pegasus Breguet XIV? Do they make a Salmson? The chiselers always get some of my money eventually, as their high prices have effectively frozen their stock (its been there so long the prices on a lot of stuff is now reasonable!), so whatever I oggle remains there until I buy it. Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 16:57:02 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: balsa Message-ID: <3522B82E.432A@conted.gatech.edu> I just found this over at RMS and thought someone on the list might be interested. Carlos Subject: WWI airplane models for sale Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 22:50:41 GMT From: kathryn@ucla.edu Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Newsgroups: rec.models.scale I recently inherited 4 balsa wood models selling them for $10 each plus shipping Made by Guillow, all are dated 1964, and are in original boxes (not sealed but all parts are inside.) All have 24" wingspan (1:24 scale?) If you wish planes can be flown with rubber band or gas engine. British De Havilland 4 (model #205) British S.E.5A (#202) French Neuport 11 (#203) German Rumpler C5 (#206) reply via e-mail to kathryn@ucla.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 22:17:36 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: C&C 28/4 / OTF seminar (again) Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980405221736.00819430@argonaut.net> Hi Bob No, 28-4 arrived some time ago SALUDOS Alberto I envy you friends going to Phoenix At 07:08 PM 05-04-98 -0400, you wrote: > >Greetings all, > >I received my copy of C&C 29/1 on Friday, but find I still haven't received >28/4. Anyone else have this happen to them? This is the first time in 11 >years that any of the journals has gone amiss. I sent Andy Kemp (the name >listed on their website) an email and asked if he knows who I should >contact. > >And on to my favourite topic . . . .who will I meet in Phoenix in four >weeks. I know Bill Bacon, Bill Ciciora, David Layton, Mike Muth and Rick >Ewing are going, but is anyone else? > >Regards, > Bob Pearson > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 22:11:53 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: Toms Modelworks Message-ID: <352847F9.4F03@bellsouth.net> Chris Cato wrote: > > Good day to everyone! After several months of lurking on this list ( and > enjoying it more than I can express!) I finally decided to consult the > collective knowledge of this list. I've just returned to modeling after > about a 15 year absence and am just finishing and Eduard Pfalz D.III and > SSW D.III. I've heard mention of Toms Modelworks kits and am curious > about the quality of his Pfalz D.XII and Nieuport's. I'd like to do both > if the kits are reasonably well done and to be honest I'm balking a little > at the price of the Blue Max D.XII! While I'm at it how is the accuracy > of the DML D.VIII versus the Eduard? I'm not so concerned about fit as > just generally correct outlines. Any comments are very welcome! > > Chris Cato > > ------------------------------------------------- > email at: tcato@bgnet.bgsu.edu > webbed at: http://www.bgsu.edu/~tcato/ Hi Chris, Welcome to the surface. As far as Toms Modelworks kits go, I've bought a few but haven't started them yet. I didn't get the Pfalz or the Nieuport so I can't comment on those kits. Are those resin or Vac-form? I have samples of each from Tom's. If you are thinking about getting the vac. kits, all I can say is that they're vacs. They come with a bunch of white metal and PE parts, but they're still vacs. I've never built a vac yet but it looks like quite a bit of work. Tom's resin kits are about the same as the vacs except the main parts(wings, fuselage, empenage) are resin instead of Vac-formed plastic. It's still a pretty big job, but the parts aren't as flimsey. Not knowing where your modeling skills are, I would hesitate to recomend one of these kits simply because it may be more than you're looking to get involved in. However, if you've put together vacs before, and don't mind having to scratch-build a lot of parts, then you would probably enjoy these kits.. As for the D-VIII's, I've built the Eduard, own but haven't built the DML, but haven't put either of them on a drawing to check the outlines. If I was only going to build in D-VIII in my life, and money wasn't a consideration, I would build one model from both kits. The DML has much nicer plastic parts, but the Eduard has all sorts of neat PE parts that the DML doesn't have. I did park my Eduard D-VIII next to the DML kit at a contest once. While I don't recall any noticeable differences in the basic outline, the difference in the cockpits is obvious. Eduard's looks better. But it takes a whole lot of grinding with a dremel tool to make it fit. Hope this helps(at least a little). Ernest ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 23:42:04 EDT From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? Message-ID: <5fa8cc6d.35284f0e@aol.com> In a message dated 98-04-05 21:02:39 EDT, you write: << For a full U-boat, I believe they still have one at the Museum of Science & Industry in Chicago...at least they did many years ago. Mike Muth >> still there Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:39:15 -0500 From: "Charles Duckworth" To: Subject: Re: Old Bill Bus Message-ID: <199804060342.WAA21330@mail.primary.net> I bought an Airfix 1/32nd bus 6-8 years ago and in was in the pre-WWI colors with advertisements - very easy to modify to a 'war-time' configuration with boards covering the passenger windows. Several period photos are available of this bus and changes made to make it a troop transport.' ---------- > From: GRBroman > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: More on WW1 1/35th non-aircraft > Date: Sunday, April 05, 1998 8:36 PM > > In a message dated 98-04-05 17:13:50 EDT, you write: > > << Hi > > Do you have their code No. for the Bill bus > > SALUDOS > >> > Unfortunately, no. The one I have is an old release, I believe they may have > changed it on the last release. I checked and it is not listed in the 97 > catalog. Glen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 14:03:56 +1000 From: Peter Mitchell To: wwi Subject: Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? -Reply Message-ID: << For a full U-boat, I believe they still have one at the Museum of Science & Industry in Chicago...at least they did many years ago. Mike Muth >> >still there Robert K. How the heck did they get a U-boat to Chicago? :-o Pete. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:25:35 EDT From: REwing To: wwi Subject: Re: Price quotes (Wings vacs & Eduard) Message-ID: <8c29361a.35285946@aol.com> << At a different non-extortionist shop, there're a stack of Eduard H-B D-1s for $24.95. Barring swap-meets & shows, Is this the best price I can get for this o-o-p kit? >> This kit is going for $12 something in Sacramento. Let me know if you want a couple and I'll pick them up for you. There was a mail-order house that had them for the same price, but I can't remember which one right off hand. HTH -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:31:26 -0700 (PDT) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? -Reply Message-ID: <199804060431.VAA27641@ednet1.orednet.org> Pete wrote: >How the heck did they get a U-boat to Chicago? :-o They barged it in. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 23:49:17 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: Price quotes (Wings vacs & Eduard) Message-ID: <35285ECD.F80@bellsouth.net> REwing wrote: > > << At a different non-extortionist shop, there're a stack of Eduard H-B > D-1s for $24.95. Barring swap-meets & shows, Is this the best price I > can get for this o-o-p kit? >> > > This kit is going for $12 something in Sacramento. Let me know if you want a > couple and I'll pick them up for you. There was a mail-order house that had > them for the same price, but I can't remember which one right off hand. > HTH > -Rick- Rick, Any other Eduards discounted that heavy? Ernest ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:54:11 EDT From: REwing To: wwi Subject: Re: Price quotes (Wings vacs & Eduard) Message-ID: <66007bf1.35285ff4@aol.com> << Rick, Any other Eduards discounted that heavy? Ernest >> Nope, that is the only one. -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:01:25 -0500 From: "Eli Geher" To: Subject: Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? -Reply Message-ID: <199804060509.AAA12280@sh1.ro.com> > From: Peter Mitchell > > How the heck did they get a U-boat to Chicago? :-o They sailed it up the St. Lawrence River to the Great Lakes. The Museum is on the shore of Lake Michigan. The last 100 yards were the toughest. Eli Geher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 01:25:58 EDT From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? -Reply Message-ID: <6600f610.35286768@aol.com> In a message dated 98-04-06 00:09:40 EDT, you write: << < For a full U-boat, I believe they still have one at the Museum of Science & Industry in Chicago...at least they did many years ago. Mike Muth >> >still there Robert K. How the heck did they get a U-boat to Chicago? :-o Pete. >> very carefully...(sorry, I couldn't help myself) Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 17:39:29 -0700 From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton To: wwi Subject: Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? -Reply Message-ID: <352975BE.1CBD@connectorsystems.co.nz> > >How the heck did they get a U-boat to Chicago? :-o > > They barged it in. > I'm dissapointed that they used such a prosaic method -deck cargo on an airship would have been much more stylish. a/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 01:16:33 -0500 From: Bill Bacon To: wwi Subject: Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? -Reply Message-ID: <35287341.90B66273@netjava.net> The last 100 yds are always the hardest. Cheers, Bill B. Eli Geher wrote: > > From: Peter Mitchell > > > > How the heck did they get a U-boat to Chicago? :-o > > They sailed it up the St. Lawrence River to the Great Lakes. The Museum is > on the shore of Lake Michigan. The last 100 yards were the toughest. > > Eli Geher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:07:34 +0200 From: hans.juergen.glueck@gis-online.de To: wwi Subject: Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? Message-ID: If you are looking for aviation-museums, you should visit the following web-site which give you an survey about the museums, locations and the aircraft they have. http://www.aviation.inhh.de ciao Hans-Juergen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 11:09:58 -0700 From: Graham Nash To: World War 1 Modelling List Subject: TOKO Landings at Hannants UK Message-ID: <199804061010.AA11741@egate2.citicorp.com> Latest from Hannants TOKO =20 TOK12772 Ilyushin Il-2 =A35.95=20 TOK13272 Ilyushin Il-2M =A35.95=20 TOK12872 Sopwith Snipe =A34.50=20 TOK12972 Nieuport "Bebe" =A34.50 Regards ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 03:28:45 -0700 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: TOKO Landings at Hannants UK Message-ID: <10284523610417@KAIEN.COM> Graham, The prices came out as A34.50. I take it the Snipe was 4.50 GBP. I guess have to wait to get a few when I return from Phoenix. Unless anyone wants to trade a 1/24 scale laser copy of Barker's Snipe from the VC book for 2 of them - or any profile I have done for OTF, FMP or the website (you know - Hannovers, C.III 766/16 etc). Regards, Bob Pearson ---------- > From: Graham Nash > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: TOKO Landings at Hannants UK > Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 06:12:10 -0400 > > Latest from Hannants > > TOKO =20 > TOK12772 Ilyushin Il-2 =A35.95=20 > TOK13272 Ilyushin Il-2M =A35.95=20 > TOK12872 Sopwith Snipe =A34.50=20 > TOK12972 Nieuport "Bebe" =A34.50 > > Regards ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:27:36 -0400 From: bucky@postoffice.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: What to do on a trip to Germany? -Reply Message-ID: <199804061127.HAA19064@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 12:34 AM 4/6/98 -0400, Bill Shatzer wrote: >>Pete wrote: >>>How the heck did they get a U-boat to Chicago? :-o >>They barged it in. I'm going on memory here, but I thought that it was "caught" somewhere near the mouth of the St. Lawrence River???? Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 07:24:37 -0400 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi Subject: Re: Tom's Modelworks Pfalz D.XII Message-ID: <3528BB75.487B@worldnet.att.net> Hi, As you have been already lurking about, I don't need to tell you what a terrific forum this is. Many members have expressed (and I agree) that when the mail is down, the day just doesn't seem complete! Regarding the Tom's Modelworks Pfalz D.XII: Instructions: Basic with some illustrations. They recommend a Datafile reference. Decals: National insignia, serials and markings by Microscale. Excellent registration. 5 color upper and lower lozenge by Areomaster, with rib tapes. The consensus that I have heard here is that Aeromaster 5 color is okay, but that Almark and Americal are best. Cast metal parts: Some generic, some special. Nice! Photoetch: Nice! N-Interplane struts are phototech. It has been suggested here in the past that a bead of CA on either side of the strut gives it the right contour and some added strength. Resin castings: Fuselage - Nice (I am jealous)! Emmpenage - Pretty good. My example of the D.XII has a big bubble in the horizontal stabilizer. Typical for most resin, can be fixed. Wings: These are a problem. They are too thick. The pieces were cast from the leading edge, and the mold has spread open during casting like a book placed upright on its spine. Upper and lower wings have this problem. The leading edges of the counterbalanced aelorons (sp?) are flat. I am not sure how this can be corrected. You could try some judicious filing and sanding, but you'll need to be very careful so as not to destroy the rib details. The leading edge will always be thick. Tom's states that they will replace any defective piece, but I have another one of his kits, and it also has this problem. Overall: A pretty good effort. The wings are a problem. You can build the kit and ignore the leading edges. You could scratch build the wings. For ~ $10.00 more you could try the Blue Max injection mold kit, but I have no experience with this one. Regards John Cyg. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 969 *********************