WWI Digest 966 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Udet photos (was Re: Cross and Cockade Vol.11(1980)/nr.1) by Ernest Thomas 2) Re: Over The Front by Ernest Thomas 3) Re: Future & Decals: Triumphs and Disasters by REwing 4) MvR by REwing 5) MvR -Reply by Peter Mitchell 6) Re: Reverse lozenge/lozenge fuselage interiors by Charles Hart 7) Re: MvR by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 8) Yet more off bibliofind - for those with more sparecash than I have by Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton 9) Re: Yet more off bibliofind - for those with more sparecash than I have by Bob Pearson 10) Re: KIt Review by perrysm@juno.com 11) Comet(Dh88) Out at Hannants by Graham Nash 12) Re: MvR by Ernest Thomas 13) Re: Test by GRBroman 14) Re: Yet more off bibliofind - for those with more sparecash than I have by Bill Bacon 15) Re: Yet more off bibliofind - for those with more sparecash by Joey Valenciano 16) Re: MvR -Reply by REwing 17) Re: MvR by REwing 18) Re: Turkish translation by Matthew Zivich 19) Re: Future & Decals: Triumphs and Disasters by Matthew Zivich 20) RE: MvR by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 21) London by Alberto Rada 22) Re: Future & Decals: Triumphs and Disasters by "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." 23) Re: Test by Alberto Rada 24) URL w/lots of WWI planes by perrysm@juno.com 25) 00 scale by Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton 26) Re: URL w/lots of WWI planes by KarrArt 27) Re: 8 year olds by "Charles Duckworth" 28) Latest FSM by mbittner@juno.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 00:26:41 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: Udet photos (was Re: Cross and Cockade Vol.11(1980)/nr.1) Message-ID: <35248121.50ED@bellsouth.net> Joey Valenciano wrote: > He was out of a job and looking for some flying action/adventure. Too bad he started running with that rough crowd. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 00:38:01 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: Over The Front Message-ID: <352483C9.4E7E@bellsouth.net> Joey Valenciano wrote: > > >I'm too tired to go looking for Squadron's page(don't have it > >bookmarked). Could you just tell me what it is? And is it something they > >have in hand, or something they're expecting? > > Here's what the site sez: > > Over The Front from USA > > A magazine of information, fact and informed opinion about aerial > activity in WWI. Published by the League of World War I Aviation > Historians. Published quarterly. > WW-OV1204 Vol 12, #4 Winter 1997(SC) $9.98 > Color Cover,History of the Royal Wurttemberg; Dad's photo album: > views of the RCF/RNAS/RAF; Dutch Treat-Aircraft interned in the > Netherlands; First bombs on Dunkirk; Colors: the Hanover CL.II/III/IIIa > > ********************************************************************* > > Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, > joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist > tel. (632) 921-26-75 > Metro-Manila, Philippines > > "The more you know, the more you don't know." > > ********************************************************************* Thanks much. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:42:54 EST From: REwing To: wwi Subject: Re: Future & Decals: Triumphs and Disasters Message-ID: <8a2e45a2.352484ef@aol.com> << Does anyone out there have a spare Glencoe Pfalz D. III decal #24 lying around? Fernando Lamas >> I have the decal in question. Send me your address and I'll get it out in the mail for you. -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:55:50 EST From: REwing To: wwi Subject: MvR Message-ID: <145c05cf.352487f8@aol.com> Hi all, Had to brag a little. My 8 year-old came home from school and said he needed to read a non-fiction book for class. I asked what he would like to read about and he answered,"The Red Baron!". I, a beaming father, took him to the library not really expecting to find a kids book on MvR. Lo and behold, we found The Red Baron by Nicolas Wright. ( Is that sound I hear Sandy pounding his head against the keyboard?) I have been helping him out with the German names and such, but he got really into this. Do I know how to raise this little guy or what? -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 17:10:21 +1000 From: Peter Mitchell To: wwi Subject: MvR -Reply Message-ID: Rick, If this is the book I'm thinking of, I read it in primary school. Lots of art-work and providing some great detail. I've often wondered whether the old school still has it, I'd like to see it again. :-) Pete. >>> REwing 3/April/1998 04:59pm >>> Hi all, Had to brag a little. My 8 year-old came home from school and said he needed to read a non-fiction book for class. I asked what he would like to read about and he answered,"The Red Baron!". I, a beaming father, took him to the library not really expecting to find a kids book on MvR. Lo and behold, we found The Red Baron by Nicolas Wright. ( Is that sound I hear Sandy pounding his head against the keyboard?) I have been helping him out with the German names and such, but he got really into this. Do I know how to raise this little guy or what? -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:25:50 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: Reverse lozenge/lozenge fuselage interiors Message-ID: >Patrick Padovan wrote: >> >> Gentlemen: I received an updated Americal catalogue (Thanks, Charles >> Hart!) over the weekend (not to mention a sheet of yummy Jasta 15 decals, >> but that's another story) and was interested to note that included in >> Americals listings, is a decal sheet of "Four color reversed and slightly >> faded lozenge, for use in representing the interior of lozenge-fuselaged >> aircraft, especially Fokker products such as the D.VI, D.VII & >> D.VIII/E.V." Charles has previously mentioned this sheet a while ago, > > > >Anyone feeling really adventurous might consider cutting out panels >around the cockpit side walls and replacing this area with clear : The >lozenge transfer/ decal ( I'm THAT OLD !!! ) will then show through - >I've experimented with this and have found that a bit of roughing up of >the inner side of the new clear cockpit side wall with a bit of matt >varnish gives a very pleasing " toned down " see-through effect. A bit >of internal detail ( stringers, cross-bracing as appropriate plus >instruments ) on top and " Bob's your uncle " > >METHOD >1. cut out the kit ( solid ) side panel >2. cut replacement clear side to fit ( DO NOT GLUE IN PLACE YET ! ) >3. rough up and finish internal work as above >4. fit small mounting fillets on internal side of fuselage panels >5. fit new part finished side panel and fill/ sand to smooth finish > >externally > >DAVID ( R.L. LAWS ) I had to re-read this before responding. David's idea is good in theory and would work if the lozenge decal was printed the same way the original fabric was printed (i.e. each lozenge separately printed on the decal. In practice, mostly to assist registration, lozenge decals (at least mine) are printed with a solid base color and then varying patterns of the other colors until the final product looks like the pattern of polygons when viewed from the outside. Put this decal on a piece of clear sheet styrene and you will get a solid wall of ochre or green. Sorry guys, this won't work with Americal/Gryphon lozenge decals. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:40:56 -0800 (PST) From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: MvR Message-ID: <199804030740.XAA02726@ednet1.orednet.org> Rick writes: -snips- >I have been helping him out with the German names and such, but he got really >into this. Do I know how to raise this little guy or what? Not if you ask a certain (nameless) member of this group! Exposing impressionable young minds to "cold blooded assassins" like MvR is the equivelent of child abuse and he will probably seek your arrest! Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 20:19:45 -0800 From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton To: wwi Subject: Yet more off bibliofind - for those with more sparecash than I have Message-ID: <3525B4DD.7B2@connectorsystems.co.nz> Found these, but $US750 is more than I can spare at the moment Hope someone can use the info Aidrian : CROSS AND COCKADE (U.S.). Vols. 1-26 ; (All published). 1960-85. wraps. Very good condition. 15449 Aviation Offered for sale by Q.M.Dabney at US$750.00 : Cross & Cockade Journal ; Whittier, CA: The Society Of World War 1 Aero Historians, 1960-1985, We have many copies of this quarterly journal. Price is $10.00 per issue. A total of 102 issues were published from Spring, 1960 through Summer, 1985., ABE AVIATIONWWIWW1 (UR#:ZZZZ) Offered for sale by Icarus Books at US$10.00 : Cross and cockade (Great britain): journal of the society of world war i aero historians. vols. 2-27 ; Leicester, 1971-1996. 26 vols., illus. wraps. Complete run. 87874 Aviation Offered for sale by Q.M.Dabney at US$750.00 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:27:52 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Yet more off bibliofind - for those with more sparecash than I have Message-ID: <09275281203275@KAIEN.COM> That seems like a decent price for the complete C&C(USA) I usually see them going for $1000 US. Regards, Bob Pearson ---------- > From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Yet more off bibliofind - for those with more sparecash than I have > Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 03:19:54 -0500 > > Found these, but $US750 is more than I can spare at the moment > > Hope someone can use the info > > Aidrian > > > : CROSS AND COCKADE (U.S.). Vols. 1-26 ; (All published). 1960-85. > wraps. Very good condition. 15449 Aviation > Offered for sale by Q.M.Dabney at US$750.00 > > : Cross & Cockade Journal ; Whittier, CA: The Society Of World War 1 > Aero Historians, 1960-1985, We have many > copies of this quarterly journal. Price is $10.00 per issue. A total of > 102 issues were published from Spring, 1960 through > Summer, 1985., ABE AVIATIONWWIWW1 (UR#:ZZZZ) Offered for sale by > Icarus Books at US$10.00 > > : Cross and cockade (Great britain): journal of the society of world > war i aero historians. vols. 2-27 ; Leicester, > 1971-1996. 26 vols., illus. wraps. Complete run. 87874 Aviation > Offered for sale by Q.M.Dabney at US$750.00 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 05:48:52 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: KIt Review Message-ID: <19980403.054852.8950.1.perrysm@juno.com> On Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:32:55 -0500 Charles Hart writes: > Acording to the GP Hobbies Web site ( >http://www.gphobby.krakow.pl/index.htm ) this kit is NOT a re-issue of >the >Maquette kit from Russia, issued a few years ago. I, for one, would >like >to hear independent confirmation of this. The earlier kit represented >only >a couple of a/c in the I'lya Muromets fleet, so I would hope that the >good >folks at ICM might have done their home work a little before cutting a >mold. Charles: The english portion of the "History" said that there were 88 of these planes built as 4 different types. It goes on to say that every plane differed form one another in span, length, engines & armament. It says that the kit is the plane #150 used by I. Bashko to bomb German positions on 12 Feb 1915 and is the one he later fled to Poland with when the Sovs took over. The translation was by a non native english speaker so I don't know if we have good history badly translated or vice versa or both. Send me a snail address and I'll xerox you a copy of the plans. They have a nice "sprue map" which should answer your question as to the differences between this and the Maquette kit. Steven Perry perrysm@juno.com nb: Sierra Scale Spad A.4 (S.79 on Skis) 1:48 nu: Pegasus Albatros W.4 (747) 1:72 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 12:56:13 -0800 From: Graham Nash To: World War 1 Modelling List Subject: Comet(Dh88) Out at Hannants Message-ID: <199804031156.AA11451@egate2.citicorp.com> I see from the Hannants web-site that the Airfix re-release of this kit has been received. I know it is off-topic, but I beg forgiveness as I definately saw another list member issue a few exclamation marks a few weeks ago! Besides, the plane is of wooden construction (Feeble grin) I'd like to make up 3 of these, ie in Red(G-ACSS, Grosvenor House), British Racing Green (G-ACSR), and Black & Gold (G-ACSP, Black Magic), but am lacking any visual record of the latter two, despite trawling the web, where the best reference I can find is at: http://www.rosat.mpe-garching.mpg.de/~doe/legends/comet.html Can any list member help with some colour profiles? Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 08:18:41 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: MvR Message-ID: <3524EFC1.1655@bellsouth.net> REwing wrote: > > Hi all, > > Had to brag a little. My 8 year-old came home from school and said he needed > to read a non-fiction book for class. I asked what he would like to read > about and he answered,"The Red Baron!". I, a beaming father, took him to the > library not really expecting to find a kids book on MvR. Lo and behold, we > found The Red Baron by Nicolas Wright. ( Is that sound I hear Sandy pounding > his head against the keyboard?) > > I have been helping him out with the German names and such, but he got really > into this. Do I know how to raise this little guy or what? > > -Rick- Lucky Bastard! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:04:32 EST From: GRBroman To: wwi Subject: Re: Test Message-ID: <5107bf7e.3524fa82@aol.com> In a message dated 98-04-02 15:59:27 EST, you write: << and Carlos, I was not giving Matt a 00. >> You should have given Matt a 00. Thats the english scale equivalent of 1/76. Quite close to that masterful scale of 1/72. Quite appropos :) Glen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 11:52:02 -0600 From: Bill Bacon To: wwi Subject: Re: Yet more off bibliofind - for those with more sparecash than I have Message-ID: <352521C1.90D84485@netjava.net> Adrian, Addresses or URL's please. Cheers, Bill B. Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton wrote: > Found these, but $US750 is more than I can spare at the moment > > Hope someone can use the info > > Aidrian > > : CROSS AND COCKADE (U.S.). Vols. 1-26 ; (All published). 1960-85. > wraps. Very good condition. 15449 Aviation > Offered for sale by Q.M.Dabney at US$750.00 > > : Cross & Cockade Journal ; Whittier, CA: The Society Of World War 1 > Aero Historians, 1960-1985, We have many > copies of this quarterly journal. Price is $10.00 per issue. A total of > 102 issues were published from Spring, 1960 through > Summer, 1985., ABE AVIATIONWWIWW1 (UR#:ZZZZ) Offered for sale by > Icarus Books at US$10.00 > > : Cross and cockade (Great britain): journal of the society of world > war i aero historians. vols. 2-27 ; Leicester, > 1971-1996. 26 vols., illus. wraps. Complete run. 87874 Aviation > Offered for sale by Q.M.Dabney at US$750.00 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 02:28:43 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: Yet more off bibliofind - for those with more sparecash Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980404022843.00b5a438@philonline.com.ph> >Adrian, > >Addresses or URL's please. Allow me...... Q.M. Dabney & Co. PO Box 42026, Washington, D.C. U.S.A., 20015 Phone (301) 881-1470 Fax (301) 881-0843 Email qmdabney@erols.com Icarus Books P.O. Box 296, Old Saybrook, CT, U.S.A., 06475 Phone (860) 669-3865 Fax (860) 669-3865 Email icarus@snet.net ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:14:30 EST From: REwing To: wwi Subject: Re: MvR -Reply Message-ID: << If this is the book I'm thinking of, I read it in primary school. Lots of art-work and providing some great detail. I've often wondered whether the old school still has it, I'd like to see it again. :-) Pete. >> There are a number of photographs and a couple I haven't seen before. Copyright is 1976, if that helps the memory. -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:25:59 EST From: REwing To: wwi Subject: Re: MvR Message-ID: <27ad8b3a.352537c9@aol.com> In a message dated 98-04-03 02:41:52 EST, you write: << Exposing impressionable young minds to "cold blooded assassins" like MvR is the equivelent of child abuse and he will probably seek your arrest! Cheers and all, Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org>> In this day and age, unfortunately, the "cold blooded assassins" are right in the school yard. As a 5th/6th grade teacher these kids are exposed to death and destruction through the TV, movies, and news. Though MvR is one of my personal favorites ( I can hear Sandy screaming already ;^)), the proper perspective will be taught. All my son cares about is that MvR flew a "real cool" airplane. -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:36:19 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Zivich To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Turkish translation Message-ID: Mark, I got the title of these books, Turk Havacilik Tarihi, from someone on the list several months ago. I contacted the Lib. of Cong. where the only copies exist in the States and arranged to have them make xeroxes of photos, etc.(25 copies/$10). It took awhile. Apparently there are 3 books each about 6" x 9", covering Turkish military aircraft from 1914-18. (BTW, the LOC will NOT lend these books out.) The copies I received were of blk & wht, original photographs of a lot of Turk pilots, observers, honchos, FNGs standing around posing in front of a lot of Taube-types, & early C-types. There are a couple of striking portraits of dashing Turk pilots in full regalia standing in front of their planes. (The uniforms are pretty spiffy too). I really believe the photos and the one diagram that apparently is meant to illustrate the positioning of the national marks are non-spectacular for the model maker. Some of the early pics are in exceptionally bad quality. The others appear to be more about personnal than aircraft. With the exception of a very good side view of a late Alb. C-type,(German marks, light-gray) and a Fok. D-VII head-on view, marks, etc. indistinguishable, the rest show bits & pieces in cutoff views of a lot of tails with black squares. And of course, the text is in Turkish so it's basically no help at all. My hopes were dashed when I found out there were no color diagrams, but then again these volumes were written by a military man who had a thing for uniforms not camouflage. I would eventually like to pass this material on to the list library in the near future, & I will notify the list when this happens. Matt Zivich On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, mark wrote: > Calling Matt Z., come in Matt..... > > Man, how did I miss this one! Which book and/or text is it that you have? > Can't help any with the translation, but I'd sure like to see what you've > got.... > > Mark > > >Matthew Zivich wrote: > > > >>The text is in Turkish & not much help. > > > > My Turkish is a bit rusty, but I can take a stab at it if you'll forward > >the text to me. If I can't decipher it, I'll ask a friend I correspond with > >in Ankara. > > > >HTH, > >Al > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:43:19 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Zivich To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Future & Decals: Triumphs and Disasters Message-ID: Hey Doc, you're not a surgeon by any chance, are you? Just kidding. Post your postal address. I've got decals. Matt Z. On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Fernando E. Lamas, M.D. wrote: > > As that old American sports show used to open every weekend: "The thrill > of victory and the agony of defeat." I am passing along my progress on my > "practice" Glencoe Pfalz D. III in Buttlar's "Crescent Moon Smoking a Pipe" > scheme. My almost 8 year old daughter, Patricia, picked out this scheme. I > promised to give her this model for her room. She think's Buttlar's color > scheme is "really pretty". > > On this Pfalz, I have been trying out the "Future as decal setting > solution" option. I put on the "Moons" this way and they looked as if they > were painted on. Fantastic. > > My Glencoe decal sheet was all off-center. I put the #1 decals (white > bordered eisernerkreuz) on the top wing and painted out the off-center black > crosses with Poly Scale white and Futured over it. Tonight, I put one of > the # 24 crosses (non-white bordered crosses for silbergrau schemes) over > the painted over #1 decal using Future as a setting solution. It looks > fantastic. A well-centered, bordered eisernerkreuz that looks painted on. > > On to the other top wing cross. I soak the decal. I put the Furture on > the wing. I slide the decal on. I try to slide the decal to the desired > positon. The damned thing is stuck on the Future! More Future does not > help. (This Future bottle is three weeks old, Matt.) I pull the cross off > and it folds on to itself. I put it back in the water bowl and it is > shrivelled up like a spastic octopus. No amount of stroking can get it to > spread out again. ARRRGGHH!!! > > I progress to the lower wing crosses. After the Future dries a bit, I > notice that it has left the decals with a wrinkled apperance which, however, > is not too noticeable. Maybe, in my hands, Future is too gummy and sticky to > use as a setting solution. Maybe I should confine myself to traditional > setting solutions. > > I admit defeat for the night and quit. Patricia gets home from judo > class and looks at "her" model. "Why did that other cross turn all white, > Papi?" I assert "executive privilege" and refuse to answer the question. > > Does anyone out there have a spare Glencoe Pfalz D. III decal #24 lying > around? > > Fernando Lamas > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:49:03 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: MvR Message-ID: <01BD5F07.442001C0.panz-meador@vsti.com> hey--IMHO, MvR doesn't get ENOUGH credit---80 kills and he did it, according to a recent review of the airfix kit of the Dr. eins, on a rotary with ONLY 3 CYLINDERS! phillip -----Original Message----- From: Bill Shatzer [SMTP:bshatzer@orednet.org] Sent: Friday, April 03, 1998 1:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: MvR Rick writes: -snips- >I have been helping him out with the German names and such, but he got really >into this. Do I know how to raise this little guy or what? Not if you ask a certain (nameless) member of this group! Exposing impressionable young minds to "cold blooded assassins" like MvR is the equivelent of child abuse and he will probably seek your arrest! Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 18:33:15 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: London Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980403183315.00816a30@argonaut.net> Hi friends I have to go to London on a business trip on April 30th and will be working on the 30th and May1 in the morning, then its free time till Monday morning that I return to Miami Anyone there those days ? Any tip ? SALUDOS Alberto ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:14:30 -0800 From: "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." To: wwi Subject: Re: Future & Decals: Triumphs and Disasters Message-ID: At 02:46 PM 4/3/98 -0500, you wrote: >Hey Doc, you're not a surgeon by any chance, are you? > >Just kidding. Post your postal address. I've got decals. >Matt Z. > Thanks, Matt. Someone is already sending a decal. This sure is a great list. :-) Actually, I'm a radiologists and the surgery I do involves putting needles, large and small, into patient's bodies for biopsies, drainages, etc. "There is no body cavity that can not be reached with a strong right arm and a long enough 18 gauge needle." I have no problem making holes for rigging. But those flimsy decals... that's for eye surgeons. Fernando Lamas ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 18:44:41 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Test Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980403184441.007ad100@argonaut.net> Isn't it amazing how right the Britts are, 1/72 being equivalent to 00 is also mathematically correct SALUDOS Alberto At 10:07 AM 03-04-98 -0500, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-04-02 15:59:27 EST, you write: > ><< and Carlos, I was not giving Matt a 00. >> >You should have given Matt a 00. Thats the english scale equivalent of 1/76. >Quite close to that masterful scale of 1/72. Quite appropos :) Glen > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 18:28:02 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com To: wwi Subject: URL w/lots of WWI planes Message-ID: <19980403.183041.3726.1.perrysm@juno.com> If you haven't already found the following URL, by all means check it out. It has a wealth of WWI aircraft photos. http://www.hiiumaa.ee/~arvo/aero/index.html I haven't a clue as to what language the text is in, but the pix are great sp _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 11:49:10 -0800 From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton To: wwi Subject: 00 scale Message-ID: <35268EB6.33DC@connectorsystems.co.nz> This comes from the model railway world- for some obscure reason Henry Greenly, who was really the father of the hobby in the UK, liked to mix metric and imperial measures. Hence 0 gauge in Britain and Europe is 7mm to the foot, approx 1/43.5 (but it's 1/48th in the USA), HO is 3.5mm to the foot (1/87th) and 00 is 4mm to the foot (1/76.2). This latter is the scale that Airfix chose for all their small scale military vehicles back in the fifties, and European O gauge is the likewise the common scale for die cast cars, following the earlylead of companies like Dinky. Aidrian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 19:12:50 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: URL w/lots of WWI planes Message-ID: In a message dated 98-04-03 18:35:27 EST, you write: << If you haven't already found the following URL, by all means check it out. It has a wealth of WWI aircraft photos. http://www.hiiumaa.ee/~arvo/aero/index.html I haven't a clue as to what language the text is in, but the pix are great >> It's an Estonian site. To illustrate the Gotha, arvo/aero grabbed pictures from my site ( shameless plug time- http://members.aol.com/karrart/ )of my model .I couldn't find an e-mail address at first, I was going to rightiously complain, but after digging around, the address came to light.I found out that this site is the work of a 12 year old kid who's completely nuts about WW I airplanes. He apologised profusely and we ended up exchanging links! We should encourage this kid! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 18:35:02 -0600 From: "Charles Duckworth" To: Subject: Re: 8 year olds Message-ID: <199804040041.SAA28475@mail.primary.net> Colin my youngest only has 'two' computer games on our PC, Tetris and the original Red Baron - has memorized every page, tells me that the Bullet is not as good to fly as the Albatros and has all the aces bios down to their nick names....gave him an inexpensive book on WWI aircraft and aces and he's read and re-read it. I come home from work and he bragging he shot down MvR and Voss. He's discovered my collection Datafiles (wow dad a book on the Bristol Bullet). We've built Glencoe Pfaltz together and will do the N.28 next. He also enjoys the St. Louis Jasta nite and quietly sits a listens to the techniques and looks at the models. Also drawing of Frank Luke shooting down ballons....both his older sisters (18 and 13) think he's gone off the deep end. I don't push him just believe it's in his genes ---------- > From: REwing > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: MvR > Date: Friday, April 03, 1998 12:59 AM > > Hi all, > > Had to brag a little. My 8 year-old came home from school and said he needed > to read a non-fiction book for class. I asked what he would like to read > about and he answered,"The Red Baron!". I, a beaming father, took him to the > library not really expecting to find a kids book on MvR. Lo and behold, we > found The Red Baron by Nicolas Wright. ( Is that sound I hear Sandy pounding > his head against the keyboard?) > > I have been helping him out with the German names and such, but he got really > into this. Do I know how to raise this little guy or what? > > -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:19:16 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Latest FSM Message-ID: <19980403.213357.14278.17.mbittner@juno.com> The latest FSM came today, and the reader's gallery has three WW1 subjects in it. An overly large, Revell Dr.I finished in - yep, Sandy's favorite. :-) A wonderfully done Eduard Fokker E.III done my some guy with the last name of Crofoot ;-) and an Eduard Morane "Bullet" beautifully built by some fellow in Greece. All three are wonderful models; especially that last one. :-) Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 966 *********************