WWI Digest 930 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Pfalz D.III guns by "Bill Ciciora" 2) Re: All This Richtofen Stuff by "Chris Banyai-Riepl" 3) Re: All This Richtofen Stuff by Dave Watts 4) MvR-Off topic by Dave Sterner 5) Re: Glencoe Pfalz D.III by KarrArt 6) Re: MvR-Off topic by KarrArt 7) Re: March AW-N by KarrArt 8) Re: MvR-Off topic by Dave Watts 9) Re: MvR-Off topic by Carlos Valdes 10) Re: All This Richtofen Stuff by Mick Fauchon 11) Re: MvR-Off topic by "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." 12) RE: WWI digest 929 (Slobbery Airplane Noises) by "Denest, Michael J" 13) Need a bit of help understanding the list software settings. by perrysm@juno.com (Steven M Perry) 14) Re: WWI digest 929 (Slobbery Airplane Noises) by perrysm@juno.com (Steven M Perry) 15) Re: Need a bit of help understanding the list software settings. by aew (Allan Wright) 16) Re: Thin Blue Line by Ernest Thomas 17) AM Printing by Redwilde@bdsbbs.com (Redwilde) 18) Re: Lt Lenz -SS-D-IV (Building Toko kit) by BStett3770 19) RE: MvR-Off topic, AWM Misery by Shane Weier 20) AWM web address by Shane Weier 21) Re: AM Printing by Matthew Zivich 22) Re: Lt Lenz -SS-D-IV (Building Toko kit) by mbittner@juno.com 23) Yes, Bob deserves a CD burner by Pedro Nuno Soares 24) RE: MvR-Off topic, AWM Misery by Matthew Zivich 25) Re: Yes, Bob deserves a CD burner by Alberto Rada 26) Flying Corps Gold by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley Barrett) 27) Re: Flying Corps Gold by Carlos Valdes 28) Re: Lt Lenz -SS-D-IV (Building Toko kit) by BStett3770 29) Spring meeting notice by ilyam@pipeline.com (Carl J. Bobrow) 30) Re: Lt Lenz -SS-D-IV (Building Toko kit) by KarrArt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:47:40 -0600 From: "Bill Ciciora" To: Subject: Re: Pfalz D.III guns Message-ID: Fernando asks: >> The Glencoe Pfalz D III does not have the fuselage ports for it's guns but has one gun included in the kit. That would make it a D IIIa, sort of, as it should have two guns. Did I lose one? However, the kit and instructions do not show where the guns are located. I have no photos of a D IIIa. Where are the guns located on the fuselage? << The Glencoe kit is a D.III, not D.IIIa. No snide remarks from the peanut gallery, that kit is still the most fun I've had since getting back into the hobby. For all its shape problems, it makes a nice looking airplane. You'll need to scratch an exhaust manifold; the kit manifold is for a D.IIIa. You have to drill out your own gun ports. You may have lost a gun, as my kit included two. Since the guns are buried in the fuselage, and since this is a practice plane, I see no reason to go out and get aftermarket guns. You can probably scratch a second gun using the first as a model. The Wylam drawings, on which this kit is based, are available in Scale Aircraft Drawings Vol. I (ISBN 0-911295-02-X). They show both gun arrangements. Email me off-list your snail-mail address and I'll send you copies. Bill Ciciora ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:53:56 -0800 From: "Chris Banyai-Riepl" To: Subject: Re: All This Richtofen Stuff Message-ID: <01bd4bd8$26c4e920$a74ffbce@chrisban> What I have been searching for is the type of bush that MvR relieved himself behind on that fateful day. Unfortunately, it was foggy that morning at Cappy, so we will probably never know, but the best guess so far is a rhododendron bush. Chris > > > >---------- >> From: bucky@postoffice.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) >> To: Multiple recipients of list >> Subject: Re: All This Richtofen Stuff >> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:19:21 -0500 >> >> At 03:24 PM 3/9/98 -0500, fedders wrote: >> >>Clearly the most important question facing the WWI aviation community is > >> >trying to find out what MvR had for breakfast on the day that he died. >> Well, I know he almost had Wop May for breakfast ;-] >> Mike Muth >> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 23:14:59 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: wwi Subject: Re: All This Richtofen Stuff Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980309231459.007d3240@wingate> Clearly the most important question facing the WWI aviation community is trying to find out what MvR had for breakfasst on the day that he died. Well, I know he almost had Wop May for breakfast ;-] Mike Muth From what I can gather, from where I'm at in the Franks & Bennett book, He certainly had machine gun butts for brunch :-( Dave Watts ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 20:42:03 -0800 From: Dave Sterner To: wwi Subject: MvR-Off topic Message-ID: <2.2.32.19980310044203.006b769c@earthlink.net> Hello everyone, This is a little off topic, but I have some questions about MvR. Anyone who is kind enough can reply to me at _lob@earthlink.net _or to the list if you guys don't think these questions are TOO far off topic. In searching around for WWI stuff on the web I found a picture of a piece of fabric supposedly from all of our favorite Baron's last tripe. In the caption it said "historically it is important to the researcher in that it proves the Baron's plane was not painted in a brilliant shade of red as was so often reported during the war". The fabric was donated by one Ms. Ray Watts of Harperville Ill. I'm sure some of you are familiar with the picture, if not let me know and I'll e-mail you a jpeg. My obvious question is, what's up? Is this a piece of ol' 425/17, maybe a piece not painted red? Faded? Was 425/17 entirely red? Are there any other authentic parts/pieces of 425/17 or any of the other planes flown by MvR known to exist today? I've seen pictures of two officers holding the guns from the "last" plane, what happened to them? Is it true NO original DRI still exists today? Anybody know what happened to his "Blue Max", buried with him? Is MvR's trophy room still intact? Available to the public for tours? If Snoopy was shot down by the "Red Baron" isn't MvR's final score really 81? I hope all this isn't too annoying, I did get my DML triplane today so I'll be buggin' you all soon with more pertinate problems, many thanks to all of you who helped with my display case and painting questions. Keep 'em flyin' Dave Sterner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:56:15 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: Glencoe Pfalz D.III Message-ID: <757cce8a.3504c7f1@aol.com> In a message dated 98-03-09 21:38:44 EST, you write: << RRRRRRR rat tat tat tat I better quit trying to type one handed and go land this plane (Camel) before I run it out of fuel. Hey just because I build better models than I did as a kid is no reason not to enjoy them at least as much. Sorry if I ran off at the keyboard, but y'all know where the delete button is. >> Tell you what- I'm just glad I'm not the only one! Robert K.(mentally buzzing around the house with an Aurora Breguet XIV) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:56:18 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: MvR-Off topic Message-ID: <6ceb939b.3504c7f4@aol.com> In a message dated 98-03-09 23:45:53 EST, you write: << Is it true NO original DRI still exists today? Anybody know what happened to his "Blue Max", buried with him? Is MvR's trophy room still intact? Available to the public for tours? If Snoopy was shot down by the "Red Baron" isn't MvR's final score really 81? >> So far no original DrI has turned up.The trophy room contents were most likely plundered by the advancing Russian Army in WW II- there's been rumours from time to time that bits from this collection have turned up behind the former Iron Curtain, but as of now- still nada. Snoopy was found dead last year in a dumpster behind a Thai food takeout place with a single bullet in the back of his head- probably a 'hit'. Rumours of bad dope deals were floating around Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:56:17 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: March AW-N Message-ID: <13268f71.3504c7f3@aol.com> In a message dated 98-03-09 16:52:51 EST, you write: << Hi, Just a quick note to say that my Aviation What-Not March issue is up, and this month I even have two WWI pieces! Well, OK, one of them is a book review and the other is about the Border Air Patrol, and that was 1919, but isn't that close enough, isn't it? http://www.willapabay.org/~herper/aviation Chris >> Give it look! (hey Chris-Where did you get that neat painting of the DH4 on border patrol?) As always- worth anyone's time if they're at all interested in airplanes and modeling. Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:38:44 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: wwi Subject: Re: MvR-Off topic Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980310003844.007f0500@wingate> Robert wrote; "Snoopy was found dead last year in a dumpster behind a Thai food takeout place with a single bullet in the back of his head- probably a 'hit'. Rumours of bad dope deals were floating around" Robert K. Yer hurting me, I just hit my head on the monitor with that laugh/gut convulsion. Sorry to hear that, I knew that Snoopy had fallen off the dog house, but I hadn't heard that he fell off the wagon, and ended up in the dumpster. I understand that damned bird friend of his got him hooked on "flying high", and that was it, "alles kaput"*. PS.*In the Franks & Bennett, baron book, they said that was MvR's dying words. Best to All, Dave Watts ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 07:05:24 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: MvR-Off topic Message-ID: <3503DB04.6D34@conted.gatech.edu> Dave, 425/17 was all red (except for the rudder), a darkish shade, apparently, some have said even almost maroon. There are several pieces of fabric from the plane still with us--a couple of years ago some color photos of these appeared in a Windsock issue. The engine of this machine can be seen today at the IWM in London. Other small items are held in private collections. I don't know if MvR was wearing his PlM when he was killed; as Robert said, his "collection" was taken by the Russian army and, who knows, may be partly crated up in some warehouse (but i doubt it). No Dr.Is survived WWII. One of the Baron's triplanes was in a Berlin museum, but it (along with one of Boelcke's a/c and other aviation treasures as well) was destroyed in a bombing raid. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:01:44 +1100 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: All This Richtofen Stuff Message-ID: > > Sandy excluded, of course... ;-) > > Snore, snore, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........ Looks like he's excluded himself already. Take that man's name!! Mick. -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:01:16 -0800 From: "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." To: wwi Subject: Re: MvR-Off topic Message-ID: At 11:48 PM 3/9/98 -0500, you wrote: > This is a little off topic, but I have some questions about MvR. > Are there any other authentic parts/pieces >of 425/17 or any of the other planes flown by MvR known to exist today? Is it true NO original DRI still exists today? Is MvR's trophy room >still intact? Available to the public for tours? > Dave Sterner For all questions about MvR, contact Sandy Adam. He idolizes Richtofen. ;-) The Australian Air Museum web page (I think that was it) had some images of parts of MvR's downed bird but I can't access it tonight. It seems it's funds have been cut off. One of MvR's aircraft (152/17) was sent to the Berlin Zeughaus Museum shortly after his death. This aircraft happens to be the one on page 18 of the Fokker Triplane Datafile whose "identity eludes the publisher". The same aircraft can be seen in a 1938 photo in the Museum's entrance hall with the identical peeling pattern of the red dope peeling off the white panel of the starboard fuselage cross. The museum had preserved it exactly as it was received from the Front and had not repainted it. (See Alex Imrie, Fokker Triplane, pg. 106). The Zeughaus Museum survived Allied bombing raids but was heavily damaged during the ground fighting during the taking of Berlin by the Russians. During the 1950's, Imrie made inquiries to Berlin aviation enthusiasts and Zeughaus officials as to the fate of this last surviving Dr. I. He was told that, during the occupation of Berlin, Russian troops made cooking fires from material in the Zeughaus and that included the Fokker Dr.I. :-( By the 1960's, (I don't know it's status today), the old Richtofen residence had been remodelled into an apartment complex and was in sad shape. Fernando Lamas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:05:52 -0500 From: "Denest, Michael J" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: WWI digest 929 (Slobbery Airplane Noises) Message-ID: <21A9C368581DD011986600805FEABAD401D2EBF8@xch-phl-01.he.boeing.com> Don't worry Robert, If you crash the airplane will make those slobbery crash noises for you! Mike > Were I to get into R/C, I would have to learn how to make slobbery > crash > noises.... > Robert K. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:25:04 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com (Steven M Perry) To: wwi Subject: Need a bit of help understanding the list software settings. Message-ID: <19980310.092505.19174.0.perrysm@juno.com> I'm afaid I'm not cyberphile enough to make a lot of sense out of the List Processor instructions. I'd appreciate it if a kindly soul would contact me off list and attempt to answer a few questions. TIA perrysm@juno.com No war is "Great" but we all know which one had the Great Airplanes! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:29:39 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com (Steven M Perry) To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI digest 929 (Slobbery Airplane Noises) Message-ID: <19980310.092939.19174.1.perrysm@juno.com> On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:09:52 -0500 "Denest, Michael J" writes: >Don't worry Robert, If you crash the airplane will make those slobbery >crash noises for you! >Mike > > > >> Were I to get into R/C, I would have to learn how to make slobbery >> crash >> noises.... >> Robert K. Of the many R/C planes I've crashed, I've never heard any direct evidence of the model making it's own slobbering noises, however that is inconclusive as it is problematic whether or not anyone could have heard them over the slobbering and blubbering I was doing. sp _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:33:55 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: Need a bit of help understanding the list software settings. Message-ID: <199803101433.JAA09188@pease1.sr.unh.edu> The first step is to send a message to wwi-request@pease1.sr.unh.edu with no subject and the word 'help' in the body of the message. The listproc software will mail you a help file which should answer most of your questions. After reading that, send your questions directly to me. -Al > I'm afaid I'm not cyberphile enough to make a lot of sense out of the > List Processor instructions. I'd appreciate it if a kindly soul would > contact me off list and attempt to answer a few questions. =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:49:05 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: Thin Blue Line Message-ID: <35057D11.6CC3@bellsouth.net> John Huggins wrote: > > >Cool! I just happened to catch the last of a The Thin Blue Line = > >episode, > >and Rowan Atkinson was working on a Revell 1/28th Sopwith Camel! > > > > > >Matt Bittner > > > > > >Mr. BEAN ?????? I bet his models look a lot like mine ;-). > >Anyway, the list should make him a honorary member. I can already = > >picture him wearing our beautiful button at the UK nationals... just = > >don't let him get to close to the displaying tables...;-) > > If someone will get me an address, I will send him a button. > John John, Ernest here. Back on line after being down for 2 weeks. I never did get a button. E. ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 1998 14:28:04 EDT From: Redwilde@bdsbbs.com (Redwilde) To: wwi Subject: AM Printing Message-ID: <8895581365408@bdsbbs.com> I just checked with my local copy shop, and they don't see any legal problems with copying the newsletters since they're 20 years old and with the clear ceasing-publication-statement. They could do the print run at 3.5c US per side if we can't figure out a better/cheaper method. Brian RW ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:16:10 EST From: BStett3770 To: wwi Subject: Re: Lt Lenz -SS-D-IV (Building Toko kit) Message-ID: <6eecf946.3505bbac@aol.com> Hi Gang Thank's to all for the info. & input Still havn't deceided what color on the fuselage yet. But from my reading the Dark stain , High gloss seems to be the ticket. ILooking at the photos I have, thaey all ssem to have a high gloss fuelage. Continued working on the kit last nite. Sure is a sweet little bugger, just falls together. Reomoved the wing fairing from the fuselage last nite. The D-4 wing fits great. And the trailing edge fairings look right to me. I'll let you know how the stuts fit in a few days. Gee, looks like I'm ganna get two kits done in 1998 :-) Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby np: Sopwith 208 Sqd 2 seat Camel nr: For Whom the Bell Tolls nl:Ken Bennet & The Kowloon Honkers (Jazz - Hong Kong 1991- Ned Kelly's Last Stand) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 07:25:29 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: wwi Subject: RE: MvR-Off topic, AWM Misery Message-ID: <199803102236.IAA24428@mimmon.mim.com.au> Fernando posts: >The Australian Air Museum web page (I think that was it) had some images >of parts of MvR's downed bird but I can't access it tonight. It seems it's >funds have been cut off. The Australian War Memorial (AWM) houses several bits of 425/17, including the control stick and a piece of strut. Also, though this is not relevant to the discussion of colour, MvR's big woolly boots. I don't recall the AWM page having pictures of these, though Alans WW1 Web page surely does (taken by Charles Hart). The AWM site is still there by the way, at http://www.adfa.oz.au/awm/ I'm also very sorry to say that if you want to go there and look at the Albatros, Pfalz D.XII and SE-5a you better be quick. The AWM is about to start a redevelopment and the consequence of this is (directly quoted) "The Bradbury Aircraft Hall will close in August and reopen in December 1999. The new Air Power in the Pacific (1941-1954) exhibition will include a Japanese Zero, a Wirraway, Beaufort and a Sea Fury from the Korean War. " My guess is that the *real* aeroplanes will be removed to the Treloar Preservation and Research centre and put in storage. This will probably mean they'll be impossible to view at all. REAL BIG :-( Regards Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 07:29:25 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: AWM web address Message-ID: <199803102242.IAA24447@mimmon.mim.com.au> Fernando, Sorry, I posted the URL incomplete http://www.adfa.oz.au/awm/guide.htm Regards Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:30:52 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Zivich To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: AM Printing Message-ID: If anyone has concerns about copyright laws, etc. here's a bit from a memo I just coincidentally received: Bill of Rights and Responsibilities for Electronic Learners. Internet. WWW: http://www.fit.qut.edu.au/~mcarthur/infosys/BBREC.html Copyright Clearance Center. Internet. WWW: http://www.copyright.com Copyright & Fair Use. Internet. WWW: http://fairuse.stanford.edu The Copyright Website. Internet. WWW: http://www.benedict.com WWW: http://www.ind.net/IPSE/fdhandbook/copyrt.html WWW: http://www.ilt.columbia.edu/projects/copyright/index.html WWW: http://lcweblloc.gov/copyright etc., etc. Matt Z. On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Redwilde wrote: > > I just checked with my local copy shop, and they don't see any legal > problems with copying the newsletters since they're 20 years old and > with the clear ceasing-publication-statement. They could do the print > run at 3.5c US per side if we can't figure out a better/cheaper method. > > Brian RW > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:32:20 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Lt Lenz -SS-D-IV (Building Toko kit) Message-ID: <19980310.163221.15454.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:20:34 -0500 BStett3770 writes: >Continued working on the kit last nite. Sure is a sweet little bugger, just >falls together. Reomoved the wing fairing from the fuselage last nite. The >D-4 wing fits great. And the trailing edge fairings look right to me. I'll >let you know how the stuts fit in a few days. So, if the prior message and memory serves, you glued the lower wing more toward the front, and then sanded out the rear fairing? Am I interpretting this correctly? Now if you get that Grigorovich done, you will have *three* finished...;-) Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:00:16 +0100 From: Pedro Nuno Soares To: "'ww1 modeling list'" Subject: Yes, Bob deserves a CD burner Message-ID: <01BD4C75.51DD8AC0@fei1-p4.telepac.pt> Hi guys I'm in to have my 15 bucks used to get Bob a CD Burner. Um abraco Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:00:20 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Zivich To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: MvR-Off topic, AWM Misery Message-ID: I recall seeing a swatch of MvR's Dr-I at the Wright-Pat Air Museum a few years ago. I recall it was a drab, darkened red piece of canvas mounted behind glass like some medieval relic. It was really as unassuming as most swatches from WWI aircraft, too small to get the feel of the scale of the plane, and it certainly would have been difficult to tell anything about the original color from that rag. BTW, the Wright-Pat collection should be one of the Meccas for WWI buffs in the States. I also visited the NASM last week and got a good look at their DH-4 now hanging in an area apart from the WWI exhibit. I hope to have some good detail photos of their BMW engine, DVII, Pfalz DXII, Snipe, etc. I paid close attention to minor detail ("God is in the Details", Mies van der Rohe) such as colors of aileron horns, wire, turnbuckle colors and can only say that they were different on each aircraft. Matt Z. ps. It doesn't look like they are going to close these exhibits soon. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:25:55 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Yes, Bob deserves a CD burner Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980310192555.00699644@argonaut.net> Me too SALUDOS Alberto At 05:49 PM 10-03-98 -0500, you wrote: >Hi guys > > >I'm in to have my 15 bucks used to get Bob a CD Burner. > >Um abraco > >Pedro > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:20:57 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley Barrett) To: wwi Subject: Flying Corps Gold Message-ID: Hello List, I recently read a favourable review of a new PC game called Flying Corps Gold. Has anyone tried it? Any good? Apologies if this was dealt with in the last computer game thread. Thanks, Kevin Barrett. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 21:59:33 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: Flying Corps Gold Message-ID: <3504AC95.36FD@conted.gatech.edu> Kevin, I have FCG. If you're into WWI flight sims you have to get this as well as RB2 (it does require a fairly powerful machine to fully enjoy, though). If you can get only one, I recommend RB2 despite its many problems as it also has more to offer--in terms of flyable (and viewable) a/c and career options--than the more polished FCG. I can give you more specifics off list if you'd like. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:13:27 EST From: BStett3770 To: wwi Subject: Re: Lt Lenz -SS-D-IV (Building Toko kit) Message-ID: <4e0f57ca.3505f349@aol.com> In a message dated 98-03-10 17:41:25 EST, you write: Hi Matt << So, if the prior message and memory serves, you glued the lower wing more toward the front, and then sanded out the rear fairing? Am I interpretting this correctly?>> Nope, the wing on the real D4 is more forward, just use the D-4 wing from the kit and sand off the rear fairings on the fuselage. Toko molded the D-4 wing correctly , if you look at the two wings in the kit you'll notice the differance. << Now if you get that Grigorovich done, you will have *three* finished...;-) >> Ya right -that blood thing hates me- ganna bang out a few e-z kits before I get back to it. Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:07:35 -0500 (EST) From: ilyam@pipeline.com (Carl J. Bobrow) To: wwi Subject: Spring meeting notice Message-ID: Spring meeting notice: The Atlantic Coast Chapter of the League of WWI Aviation Historians will be meeting on April 18th at the Smithsonian Institution's Garber Restoration Facility in Silver Hill, Maryland. The meeting will commence at 9AM in Building 10. The scheduled speakers are: Author and former NASM Curator Glenn Sweeting who will lend his expertise on aircraft armament to enrichen all of us with his presentation, The Development of Aircraft Armament During WWI. Ted Hamady, will talk about the NASM restoration of their famed Nieuport 28. For those of you who do not recall, in the Fall of 1995 Ted Hamady and Peter Jakab of NASM gave an excellent presentation on this Nieuport, but many questions were left unresolved regarding the history of this singly unique aircraft, so it is hoped Ted will close the circle. As a special featured speaker, former NASM Director Walter Boyne will speak and give a video preview on and about Wingspan, a new cable channel set to be launched on April 2, 1998, it will be an eight hour program series broadcast three times a day. It is the first time in history that a channel has been launched nationally and internationally at the same time. Within a year, the signal will be available to 85 percent of the world's population. Additionally we will have time for lunch and a tour of the facility as well as our famous and oft time startling "Works-n-Progress/Show-n-Tell" The only fee will be the $10 for the box lunch. Since the size of the tour groups for the facility needs to be maintained within reason we need to know in advance if you plan on attending, so please e-mail me at the earliest opportunity. cjb (*<* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:13:42 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: Lt Lenz -SS-D-IV (Building Toko kit) Message-ID: <8db4b0f3.35060168@aol.com> In a message dated 98-03-10 21:13:53 EST, you write: << ganna bang out a few e-z kits. >> Famous last words......... Robert K. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 930 *********************