WWI Digest 924 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: printing by Bob Pearson 2) Jacob's markings by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 3) Aerodrome Modeller by "Sandy Adam" 4) Fw: Nie. 17 Datafile by "Sandy Adam" 5) Re: by Don RInker 6) Re: UPDATE: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale by DavidL1217 7) Re: printing by DavidL1217 8) Re: printing by michel.lefort@ping.be (Michel LEFORT) 9) Please Help by George Schmitt 10) Re: New Chandelle by "Scott M. Head" 11) Re: UPDATE: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale by Kevin Wenker 12) AM UPDATED LIST by Bob Pearson 13) Re: AM UPDATED LIST by aew (Allan Wright) 14) RE: early Ukrain airforce (was RE: Sopwith Baby - global hobby) by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 15) AM purchase by perrysm@juno.com (Steven M Perry) 16) RE: printing by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 17) Re: AM UPDATED LIST by The Shannons 18) AM reproduction by Bill Bacon 19) Re: AM purchase by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 20) Re: AM purchase by Bob Pearson 21) Re: Re: printing by Jim Alley 22) Re: Re: printing by Bob Pearson 23) Re: Aerodrome Modeler by KarrArt 24) Re: AM UPDATED LIST by Kevin Wenker 25) Re: AM UPDATED LIST by fedders ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:41:27 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: printing Message-ID: <07412790511146@KAIEN.COM> The issue breakdown is volume 1 ? ? Volume 2 6 issues 104+ pages in the four issues that Barry has volume 3 6 issues 221 pages volume 4 4 issues 243 pages at least 568 pages, most likely less than my earlier estimate of 800. I have had an offlist suggestion that we hold a party when the number of pages breaks the 100,000 mark. Buy your tickets early :-) Regards, Bob ---------- > From: Dave Watts > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: printing > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:38:15 -0500 > > Hi Bob, > I take it that the "902 b/w profiles" are included in the 800 one-sided > pages. It's not that big a deal to have the sets collated and stapled into > their respective volumes,.....if they are in volumes? If so, how many, and > how many pages, (approximately), per volume. I know I wouldn't want 800 > loose pages sliding around. And if you don't have the specifics, maybe > someone out there does. I just want to get the pertinent info to my > printer buddy. As to the comment about copying on both sides of the paper, > I have to believe that will cut down on the printing, as well as postage > costs. > Dave W. > > >Dave > > > >What is needed is roughly 50 sets of 800 one-sided pages. There is no > >colour, but there are 902 b/w cross-hatched profiles. > > > >Bob > > > >>I have a friend in the printing business. What exactly do we need > >> copied? Is it 40 sets (for 40 members) of 20 volumes of 40 pages each, 2 > >> sided, in black and white, stapled and collated? He can get me a quote in > >> a couple of days. > >> Others can take the same information for quotes elsewhere. We do bulk > >> mailings for our mailorder business, so I can look at postage rates as > >well. > >> I think this might just get off the ground! > >> Dave W. > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:39:41 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Jacob's markings Message-ID: <199803060739.AA28973@ednet1.orednet.org> > Hello everyone, > My name is Dave Sterner, I live in Los Angeles Ca. and have >recently rekindled my love of building WWI models after an absence of about >25 years. I have enjoyed reading some of the threads in your archive and >look forward to directly communicating with some of you. >I restarted my modeling by building the "Red Baron" Revell kit with the car >and triplane (I didn't want to screw up a really good kit getting my chops >back) and have ordered the DML 1/48 Fokker DR-1 with the Jacob's markings as >a first serious project. >If anyone has built this kit I would appreciate any tips you could pass on >reguarding what paint to use. Flat black? Should all of the paints I use for >the exteriors of my planes be flat? I would also appreciate any suggestions >for a good "basics of modeling" book. As you can tell from my previous >question I'm kinda starting from scratch again, I figure alot has changed in >25 years. Well, certainly not _dead_ flat black. The photos show enough light reflecting highlights that dead black is not correct. In any case, dead flat tends to look like hell on a model - whether or not it is historically correct. I would tend towards something in the range of a semi-matte - maybe a final overcoat in the two or three parts dullcote, one part gloss coat range. My thoughts, for what they might be worth. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org " There's worser things than marchin' from Umballa to Cawnpore" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:33:42 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Aerodrome Modeller Message-ID: <199803061034.KAA26300@beryl.sol.co.uk> Count me in too. I don't know what it is, but it must be good! Sandy Suggestion: Why not ask a printer to quote for copying and binding, say 40 or 50 or 60 sets and accepting cheques or (preferably) credit cards from each of us to send direct. Would save Bob et al a considerable amount of work. We could send a contribution direct for the initial purchase then deal with the printer for supply. I'd be happy to give cc details up front so the printer would know how many to make. (Any copyright problems?) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:42:13 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Fw: Nie. 17 Datafile Message-ID: <199803061037.KAA26422@beryl.sol.co.uk> Attn Mike Muth Sorry group - my mail to Mike is bouncing back so everybody else please just ignore this: > > > Sandy > > I only have a photocopy of the Nieuport 17 datafile but would be > > willing to copy it if that would do. If so, let me know your mailing > >address and I'll get it to you. > > Mike Muth > > That's extremely kind of you Mike - but it's really the obsession of > completing the whole set that's taken over here! I got quite a few of the > older ones from MCP and now only need these 2 to have the complete run. > I've got the Nie Specials etc so probably a fair bit is duplicated anyway. > Having got this near I shall try a few of the dealers and see if I have any > luck first. > Many thanks again and if there is anything I can help you with please just > ask. > Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 07:25:35 -0500 From: Don RInker To: wwi Subject: Re: Message-ID: <34FFEB3F.1669@fast.net> Dave Sterner wrote: > back) and have ordered the DML 1/48 Fokker DR-1 with the Jacob's markings as > a first serious project. > If anyone has built this kit I would appreciate any tips you could pass on > reguarding what paint to use. Flat black? FWIW... The paint ( dope) used was probably right out of the stocks they used to apply markings, so would probably have a semigloss sheen to it. Almost all dopes, even today ,right out of the can have a medium gloss. You only get the real glossy shine by rubbing out or waxing heavily. Since Jacobs triplane lived so long, I'd venture to guess it either had to be repainted more than once, but probably also showed signs of weathering. German dopes and paints of 1918 especially were of very poor quality. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:01:17 EST From: DavidL1217 To: wwi Subject: Re: UPDATE: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale Message-ID: Someone ought to post a list of the subscribers so that all interested parties can find their name. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:03:10 EST From: DavidL1217 To: wwi Subject: Re: printing Message-ID: What would it take to put this on CD? Anybody have experience with the new CD recorders? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 14:53:04 GMT From: michel.lefort@ping.be (Michel LEFORT) To: wwi Subject: Re: printing Message-ID: <35000a53.3541188@relay.ping.be> On Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:06:42 -0500, DavidL1217 wrote: >What would it take to put this on CD? Anybody have experience with the = new CD >recorders? I have already made hundreds of CD-R's. There's no problem for duplicating a CD. The problem for putting so much things on a CD would not be the cost neither. A CD costs around $ 2-3. The problem is the work that it would involve for scanning all the pages to a good enough standard. Let's say that you spend only 2 minutes on a page to scan it like you want it. 800 pages =3D 1600 minutes, or 26 hours 20 minutes, if everything goes well. Then, you'd have to put that in a good enough to be read format. If you keep GIF or JPG format, that would take AFAIK around 1 Mb per page to have a good definition (at least 300 DPI). Of course, there is the possibility to scan the text and OCR it to gain space and readability, but that would involve much more work. There's also the possibility to make Acrobat files out of the scannings. Once again, more work. Anyway, that could be a long term project worth to be looked at as it would certainly be much less costly than photocopies. What's more, it would be easy to make new copies on demand as soon as the initial work has been done. Just my humble opinion about the subject. Regards. -- Michel Lefort - Braine-l'Alleud, Belgium IPMS Belgium Treasurer & Foreign Liaison Officer (member F072) MAFVA member #6708 http://www.ping.be/ipms-belgium Plastic Modelling is holding History in your Hand ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:56:46 -0500 (EST) From: George Schmitt To: wwi Subject: Please Help Message-ID: <199803061456.JAA16988@smtp2.erols.com> Can someone please tell me how to unsubscribe from this list? Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:05:49 -0600 From: "Scott M. Head" To: wwi Subject: Re: New Chandelle Message-ID: <9803060902.aa20332@mail.iapc.net> >The color profiles in Chandelle are all produced by its editor, Robert >Johnson. He also wrote the French COIN article, the first in a series. >Other individuals have contributed various bits of content, most of which >is edited by Rob. I contribute the occasional kit and book review, all of >which pass under his critical editorial scrutiny. > >Just to give credit where it is due. True Charles, I was unclear with my words. Riordan had contributed once I noticed. But you are indeed correct that Rob's outstanding work is truly first class. Anyone who has not visited Chandelle (all two of you!) should have a look- you'll be there for hours! Cheers! Scott M. Head IPMS/Houston IPMS/USA 32841 smh@iapc.net IPMS/Houston Scale Model Forum: http://web-hou.iapc.net/~smh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:17:55 -0600 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi Subject: Re: UPDATE: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale Message-ID: <350013A3.1F18@interaccess.com> silverinfo@czechia.com wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:15:46 -0500 Bob Pearson wrote: > > >We now have 41 members wanting to contribute (43 if > Franco and Ivan join). > >The plan was I would buy the complete set of Aerodrome > Modeler (4 years) for > >the list library, and anyone who wanted to contribute to > the cost could do > >so. In return for the $15 contribution, Bill would make a > copy for that > >person (with each person still responsible for their > return postage). > >However with the number of members joining I am sure we > have enough to pay > >for the postage to each contributor. Our problem now is > how to copy 41 sets > >of up to 800 pages 41x800=32,800. A few pages more than > Bill may have > >planned on when he offered originally. Even if Bill and > Rick were to split > >this between them, that is still 16,000 each. Does anyone > else have access > >to a free copier? The fund would pay for paper costs (I > have no idea about > >toner, but I suppose that would have to be figured in as > well). > > > > Definitely count me in ... but consider to get the stuff > scanned and put on the CD. It'll certainly spare on > postage (and tropical forrests :) ) > > Ivan Subrt I agree 100% - if it can be put on CDs that would be fantastic. Save a few trees, too. Kevin Wenker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:42:10 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: AM UPDATED LIST Message-ID: <16421076611868@KAIEN.COM> Greetings all, Here is the list as it stands so far. The australian contingent can be reduced to one if wanted. Ray Boorman Brian Reddington-Wilde Rick Ewing Dave Watts Steve Perry John Huggins Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton David Laws Shane Weier Chris Banyai-Riepl Ken Hagerup Robert Karr Bill Bacon Alberto Rada Matt Bittner ? Pedro Nuno Soares Graham Nash Bob Pearson Michel Lefort Joey Valenciano Kent McClure Phillip Anz-Meador Paul Schwartzkopf Hans-Juergen Glueck Kevin Barrett Mike Muth John Glaser Barry Stettler Al Superczynwski Joe Boeke Gary Hackney Len Endy Mick Fauchon Steve Sundberg Bruce Simard Bob Allred Charles Duckworth Mark Rook Lee Mensinger Brian Nicklas Franco Poloni Gerald P McOsker David Layton Don Rinker Ivan Subrt Sandy Adam Regards, Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:50:37 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: AM UPDATED LIST Message-ID: <199803061650.LAA25607@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Add me I'm in if it's in the $15-20 range -Al > Greetings all, > > Here is the list as it stands so far. The australian contingent can be > reduced to one if wanted. > > Ray Boorman > Brian Reddington-Wilde > Rick Ewing > Dave Watts > Steve Perry > John Huggins > Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton > David Laws > Shane Weier > Chris Banyai-Riepl > Ken Hagerup > Robert Karr > Bill Bacon > Alberto Rada > Matt Bittner ? > Pedro Nuno Soares > Graham Nash > Bob Pearson > Michel Lefort > Joey Valenciano > Kent McClure > Phillip Anz-Meador > Paul Schwartzkopf > Hans-Juergen Glueck > Kevin Barrett > Mike Muth > John Glaser > Barry Stettler > Al Superczynwski > Joe Boeke > Gary Hackney > Len Endy > Mick Fauchon > Steve Sundberg > Bruce Simard > Bob Allred > Charles Duckworth > Mark Rook > Lee Mensinger > Brian Nicklas > Franco Poloni > Gerald P McOsker > David Layton > Don Rinker > Ivan Subrt > Sandy Adam > > Regards, > Bob Pearson > =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:50:49 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: early Ukrain airforce (was RE: Sopwith Baby - global hobby) Message-ID: <01BD48ED.BAAB9D20.panz-meador@vsti.com> nope--i've got insignia 3-8 (or the latest one) and the only ukrainian stuff that comes to mind is a single table/profile from the article on russian civil war air forces. the profile, however, is a nice one of a fokker d.vii in uaf service. SAFCH is still the best bet. phillip -----Original Message----- From: Mary-Ann/Michael [SMTP:bucky@mail.ptd.net] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 9:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: early Ukrain airforce (was RE: Sopwith Baby - global hobby) At 12:03 PM 3/5/98 -0500, Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador wrote: > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Knut Erik Hagen [SMTP:knut.erik.hagen@login.eunet.no] >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 6:59 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Sopwith Baby - global hobby > > >Are there someone on the list who knows what kind of aircraft the very >first >Ukrainian >airforce operated? > I would think there must be some stuff in Insignia Magazine. This is put out by Blue Rider and deals with this kind of topic. I don't have too much, only 1 issue dealing with Polish aircraft 1919-1924. They have stuff on Lithuanian, Latvian, etc. There address iswww.squadron.com/insignia/ or at least it used to be! HTH Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:43:17 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com (Steven M Perry) To: wwi Subject: AM purchase Message-ID: <19980306.114317.17806.1.perrysm@juno.com> There are probably several on the list who have scanners. A little software swaping and the massive scanning job could be split up and farmed out in several managable chunks. I think efforts to digitize this information would be time and money ahead as once the job is done, copies are readily available and cheap. So what if it takes several months for all the scanning to be done and the files gathered and put on CD. Once digitized they are flood, mould and mildew proof. If the sample given by Bob of what is in these publications is any indication, we need to preserve it once we get it. FWIW I hope to have a functional scanner soon and would be happy to participate in this if there are others so inclined. If interested, contact me off list at smperry@mindspring.com and we can discuss software, hardware and techniques. We can report back to the list in general if and when we come up a viable procedure for digitizing this information. Steven Perry No war is "Great" but we all know which one had the Great Airplanes! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:08:32 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: printing Message-ID: <01BD48F0.347B7920.panz-meador@vsti.com> this may have been addressed earlier, but the original effort of getting the things for the library and making a few copies here and there has turned into republication of the entire magazine. as such there may be serious copyright problems involved. therefore, count me OUT until these are (a) addressed and (b) resolved. on a secondary matter, the points raised by several list members are correct. IMHO it's absurd to be making multiple sets of paper documents when the contents could easily be put onto CD. there are several reasons for this: (i) cost of "printing" (duplication) and mailing, including labor associated with these activities (ii) shelf life of a CD is >> than that of typical copy paper (iii) when bad things happen to good CDs, you wipe them off (viz, the recent thread on dry freezing wet books) (iv) CDs are easy to store. with a CD publication, the vast majority of costing is in the initial scanning and importation into, for example, adobe acrobat. however, the effort is worthwhile, as i now receive the majority of optics catalogs on CD-ROM only. this trend will probably increase in the next few years, particularly for weighty pubs such as a grainger's catalog or various industrial registries. whether the A-M stuff is printed on paper or plastic, the copyright issue needs to be resolved before any other actions, save purchasing the magazines for the library, are taken. phillip -----Original Message----- From: Michel LEFORT [SMTP:michel.lefort@ping.be] Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 8:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: printing On Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:06:42 -0500, DavidL1217 wrote: >What would it take to put this on CD? Anybody have experience with the = new CD >recorders? I have already made hundreds of CD-R's. There's no problem for duplicating a CD. The problem for putting so much things on a CD would not be the cost neither. A CD costs around $ 2-3. The problem is the work that it would involve for scanning all the pages to a good enough standard. Let's say that you spend only 2 minutes on a page to scan it like you want it. 800 pages =3D 1600 minutes, or 26 hours 20 minutes, if everything goes well. Then, you'd have to put that in a good enough to be read format. If you keep GIF or JPG format, that would take AFAIK around 1 Mb per page to have a good definition (at least 300 DPI). Of course, there is the possibility to scan the text and OCR it to gain space and readability, but that would involve much more work. There's also the possibility to make Acrobat files out of the scannings. Once again, more work. Anyway, that could be a long term project worth to be looked at as it would certainly be much less costly than photocopies. What's more, it would be easy to make new copies on demand as soon as the initial work has been done. Just my humble opinion about the subject. Regards. -- Michel Lefort - Braine-l'Alleud, Belgium IPMS Belgium Treasurer & Foreign Liaison Officer (member F072) MAFVA member #6708 http://www.ping.be/ipms-belgium Plastic Modelling is holding History in your Hand ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 11:12:12 -0600 From: The Shannons To: wwi Subject: Re: AM UPDATED LIST Message-ID: <35002E6C.3B67F037@ix.netcom.com> Allan Wright wrote: > Add me > > I'm in if it's in the $15-20 range > > -Al Please add my DITTO. -- This has been Mark and/or Mary Shannon at Shingend@ix.netcom.com History manages to get away with cliches no novelist could. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 23:12:44 -0600 From: Bill Bacon To: WWI Aero Modelers Subject: AM reproduction Message-ID: <34FF85CC.1EA84AEC@netjava.net> List members, Bob and Rick have read and approved the following. I note that today's posts suggest a CD. Read on. We have a great opportunity that comes once in blue moon. Quite frankly, and I speak for Rick also, 800 pages one side, 400 both sides times what looks like 50+ boggles our minds. I made the commitment and wiull stand by it but there are several better ideas scanning to disk is one option. I suggested it to my compadres and Bob, after scanning one page figures 100 3.5 disks for each copy. If push comes to shove, copying disks has more appeal. That's still 5000 disks (we'll be as bad as Gates when he created the dearth of disk with Windows). Cheaper for material and postage. Scanning to a web page so all could download is great but do we want our work to go to the worl on a free ride? Another option looks real good. I figure that after purchase there would be enough to buy Bob a CD burner. Quit howling foul!! Bob could crank out CD's for all of us. Make copies for non subscribers as profit for the library and I'll bet with damned little arm bending we could get him to put his famous profiles on a CD for a nominal cost. The burner would be available for any future project that might come up. For what it's worth, I go for the burner as most cost effective and most practical for the future. Bob may need help with the scanning so those of us with scanners need to contribute our time and energy. This is and should be a joint effort and a chance for all to participate. It will be of great benefit to all of us who have stuck our necks out. To those who don't like the idea, they can back out but no CD. The idea of having a printer do the job has merit but postage will be steep. Remember we are world wide. A CD is cheap to mail and easy to access. If you want a hard copy, your printer will do wonders Speaking of which, my new HP Stylus 6oo does a beautiful job with Bob's profiles which he put on the list page. I will now duck below the parapet. Fire away, we all have the right of input. All ideas and comments are not only solicitated but demanded. Cheers, Bill B. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:31:42 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: AM purchase Message-ID: <199803061733.LAA23448@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> Could probably work out, but a standard would have to be established so everyone would be assembing similar files. Also, should this idea come to fruition, what formats are readable by both Macs and clones--wouldn't want to leave anyone out. Paul A. Schwartzkopf > There are probably several on the list who have scanners. A little > software swaping and the massive scanning job could be split up and > farmed out in several managable chunks. I think efforts to digitize this > information would be time and money ahead as once the job is done, copies > are readily available and cheap. > Steven Perry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:45:31 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: AM purchase Message-ID: <17453171112081@KAIEN.COM> I use a Mac Clone (Great product, better price) and as long as we use jpgs that could be read via a browser we would be fine. The stuff I have been sending everyone has been Photoshop jpgs. Chris Banyai-Riepl has made an offlist suggestion that this be done up as a series of HTML files, in which case the thing could be done as a series of links instead of having to go back to the menu for succeeding pages. I am on my way out to mail the bid in about an hour. And once again I stress that it will take some time to finalize arrangements - who knows in three weeks we could be back down to just one copy for the library, so I ask everyone to hold on to their money until we know just what the plan is. regards, Bob Pearson ---------- > From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: AM purchase > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:29:32 -0500 > > Could probably work out, but a standard would have to be established > so everyone would be assembing similar files. Also, should this idea come > to fruition, what formats are readable by both Macs and clones--wouldn't > want to leave anyone out. > > Paul A. Schwartzkopf > > > There are probably several on the list who have scanners. A little > > software swaping and the massive scanning job could be split up and > > farmed out in several managable chunks. I think efforts to digitize this > > information would be time and money ahead as once the job is done, copies > > are readily available and cheap. > > > Steven Perry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:44:34 EST From: Jim Alley To: wwi Subject: Re: Re: printing Message-ID: <3ba25469.35003605@aol.com> Just getting around to reading (skimming, actually) mail from this list. I'd like to get in on the AM thingy if it means putting in $10-$15. As an aside, Adobe Acrobat's Capture technology has been pretty disappointing (to me, at least). It is VERY slow, and not particularly automatic. And it still demands a human being to correct all of the OCR mistakes. Jim Alley ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:04:05 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Re: printing Message-ID: <18040547312137@KAIEN.COM> I agree, So far Acrobat stops part way through and says it will be unable to complete the job whenever I use it - I just can't bring myself to delete it in case it ever decideds to work. Bob ---------- > From: Jim Alley > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Re: printing > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:49:02 -0500 > > Just getting around to reading (skimming, actually) mail from this list. > I'd like to get in on the AM thingy if it means putting in $10-$15. > > As an aside, Adobe Acrobat's Capture technology has been pretty > disappointing (to me, at least). It is VERY slow, and not particularly > automatic. And it still demands a human being to correct all of the OCR > mistakes. > > Jim Alley ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:13:30 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler Message-ID: <89ac1a72.35003ccd@aol.com> Originally, this all seemed so simple- we kick in some cash and the list buys a complete set of AM. Now it's reached the stage where we're becoming publishing moguls! Geez, the way it's going,we might as well go whole hog, secure the rights if they're there to be secured, put the thing on CD, buy small ads in Windsock and WW I Aero and sell it.(my brain hurts) On the subject of copyright in general, I don't know all the legalities, but I do sometimes feel a twinge of guilt when I copy something for somebody else.Honestly speaking,the recent, almost frantic rights notices in Ray Rimell's publications are understandable.He puts his resources into these things and sells them on the condition that we respect the usage rules regarding intellectual property. I've had a few of things of mine used without my permission, nothing earth shattering, but this has jolted me into an awareness of the issue. I realize that our exchanges probably don't amount to much of an assault on anybody's property, but we should think about it.I have to say I'm as guilty, if not more, than anybody else my 2 cents worth Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 12:36:13 -0600 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi Subject: Re: AM UPDATED LIST Message-ID: <3500421C.68F6@interaccess.com> Bob Pearson wrote: > > Greetings all, > > Here is the list as it stands so far. The australian contingent can be > reduced to one if wanted. > > Ray Boorman > Brian Reddington-Wilde > Rick Ewing > Dave Watts > Steve Perry > John Huggins > Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton > David Laws > Shane Weier > Chris Banyai-Riepl > Ken Hagerup > Robert Karr > Bill Bacon > Alberto Rada > Matt Bittner ? > Pedro Nuno Soares > Graham Nash > Bob Pearson > Michel Lefort > Joey Valenciano > Kent McClure > Phillip Anz-Meador > Paul Schwartzkopf > Hans-Juergen Glueck > Kevin Barrett > Mike Muth > John Glaser > Barry Stettler > Al Superczynwski > Joe Boeke > Gary Hackney > Len Endy > Mick Fauchon > Steve Sundberg > Bruce Simard > Bob Allred > Charles Duckworth > Mark Rook > Lee Mensinger > Brian Nicklas > Franco Poloni > Gerald P McOsker > David Layton > Don Rinker > Ivan Subrt > Sandy Adam > > Regards, > Bob Pearson Hmmm - I had sent an email asking to be included. Kevin Wenker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:37:49 -0600 (CST) From: fedders To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: AM UPDATED LIST Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Bob Pearson wrote: > > Greetings all, > > Here is the list as it stands so far. The australian contingent can be > reduced to one if wanted. count me in also. peter fedders > > Ray Boorman > Brian Reddington-Wilde > Rick Ewing > Dave Watts > Steve Perry > John Huggins > Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton > David Laws > Shane Weier > Chris Banyai-Riepl > Ken Hagerup > Robert Karr > Bill Bacon > Alberto Rada > Matt Bittner ? > Pedro Nuno Soares > Graham Nash > Bob Pearson > Michel Lefort > Joey Valenciano > Kent McClure > Phillip Anz-Meador > Paul Schwartzkopf > Hans-Juergen Glueck > Kevin Barrett > Mike Muth > John Glaser > Barry Stettler > Al Superczynwski > Joe Boeke > Gary Hackney > Len Endy > Mick Fauchon > Steve Sundberg > Bruce Simard > Bob Allred > Charles Duckworth > Mark Rook > Lee Mensinger > Brian Nicklas > Franco Poloni > Gerald P McOsker > David Layton > Don Rinker > Ivan Subrt > Sandy Adam > > Regards, > Bob Pearson > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 924 *********************