WWI Digest 920 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Aerodrome Modeler by REwing 2) Aerodrome Modeler by Redwilde@bdsbbs.com (Redwilde) 3) AM offer #2 by Redwilde@bdsbbs.com (Redwilde) 4) Re: Hand Pump / Air pump by Dave Watts 5) Re: AM offer #2 by Bob Pearson 6) Re: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale by "Gillian & Ray Boorman" 7) Contributors to the AM fund by Bob Pearson 8) Re: Contributors to the AM fund by Joey Valenciano 9) AM Offer by mbittner@juno.com 10) Re: Aviatik Berg D.I by mbittner@juno.com 11) Re: AM Offer by Bob Pearson 12) Re: Contributors to the AM fund by "John Glaser" 13) Re: Contributors to the AM fund by bucky@mail.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 14) Re: Contributors to the AM fund by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley Barrett) 15) Re: Contributors to the AM fund by hans.juergen.glueck@gis-online.de 16) Re: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 17) TV Alert by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 18) RE: Munsell Color Program by silverinfo@czechia.com 19) RE: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 20) RE: Munsell Color Program by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 21) Re: Contributors to the AM fund by MCCLURE@skynet.dcs.eis.lmco.com 22) Attn: Mike M. by Carlos Valdes 23) Re: TV Alert by "Gillian & Ray Boorman" 24) Re: TV Alert by "Gillian & Ray Boorman" 25) heh, this should be good... by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 26) RE: Prague visit by infosilver@czechia.com 27) RE: Munsell Color Program by infosilver@czechia.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:58:12 EST From: REwing To: wwi Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler Message-ID: In a message dated 98-03-03 05:24:18 EST, you write: << Okay group here is a scoop for you. I know a fellow offlist with the ENTIRE Aerodrome modeler for sale. What are we willing to pay for it? He has asked me to write him a snail and make an offer. This is for 16 issues at around 50 pages each - let's say 800pages >> This sounds great! I wouldn't even know what would be an appripriate offer. Maybe a few of us can buy one or two and distribute copies to the rest who bought the others. Of course, a copy should go the library. Any thoughts? -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 1998 01:09:34 EDT From: Redwilde@bdsbbs.com (Redwilde) To: wwi Subject: Aerodrome Modeler Message-ID: <88899182986058@bdsbbs.com> Hi folks, You can count me in for a share of whatever it takes to get a full set for the list library and a full copied set for myself, up to $100US (though it doesn't look like we'll need to go that high for individual contributions). But, I'll put in my high bid now since I'm leaving town on THursday morning for a big gaming convention in Pennsylvania, and actual decisions may be made while I'm away for the weekend. Given the rate at which I paint up flights of aircraft, I really want a full set on hand. (I'll be back on line Monday or Tuesday to see who I need to send money to and how much if this hasn't been sorted out before I leave.) Brian RW nb 1/285 Hannover CL.III master figure nl Tank Girl soundtrack ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 1998 01:36:38 EDT From: Redwilde@bdsbbs.com (Redwilde) To: wwi Subject: AM offer #2 Message-ID: <88899345692062@bdsbbs.com> It currently looks like we may be able to scrounge up the four volumes without having to buy the whole set if we can only find vol.I. It was also mentioned that it looks like the seller of the full set may take a $100 offer. If we don't come up with Vol.I by other means, I'd be willing to pay the $100 to buy the full set and then send a copy of Vol.I in to the library. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 01:32:34 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: wwi Subject: Re: Hand Pump / Air pump Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980304013234.007c4be0@wingate> Hi Steve, As somewhat stated already, with the selector in the "hand" position, you would use the hand pump to put pressure into the main fuel tank, I belive the pressure desired is 1.8, this would help to "prime" the motor, although on earlier motors, many had priming petcocks to squirt a little fuel into the cylinders, later they did away with them and often had a petcock on the intake manifold for priming. And of course, the decompression handle would be pulled by the mechanic, and they would pull the motor through to prime the motor and get the oil moving. Once you started the motor, (via the hand crank magneto in the cockpit, not by turning the prop), you would change the selector to the "motor" air pump position, which then utilized a mechanical pump on the front of the motor, (on a Mercedes). Often you see two air pressure gauges in the central area of the dash board, they are the pressure gauges for the main and reserve fuel tanks. Best Wishes, Dave W. >I've noticed a detail item in many WWI cockpit drawings is labeled as a >pump, hand pump or air pump. > >Used for? > >thanks > >Steve Perry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:15:23 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: AM offer #2 Message-ID: <07152339104611@KAIEN.COM> Greetings All, Hmm, lets see if I tell Bill and Brian that it takes $300 for the purchase I can afford my Windsock subscription :-) I think we are starting to get a bit high here. How about I put in a bid of $125. If I get it, than anyone who wants to contribute towards Bill's copying it can send me whatever they want to enable it to go to the list library. Anything over the purchase price will be put into a fund to either: - buy up Datafiles and Profiles that the library lacks. - provide a fund to enable Bill to do copying and pay for postage to each contributor towards the purchase. - provide a fund to enable Riordan to cover his postage costs on parcels to list members Charles also has a point in that we almost have a complete set between us, we could go back to sending the individual issues to Rick/Bill to be copied - however the advantage of purchasing the collection is we would have a COMPLETE set at once. I have a message from Barry that he made a mistake and is missing 2 issues of Vol 2, so we would have to find those in addition to vol 1. I'll put together a list of everyone who has said they would contribute and we can decide over the next day or three which course to follow. BTW HIro Aerodrome Modeler is a series of xeroxed articles that are sort of for-runners of Windsock and the markings columns in C&C(USA) and OTF. In fact many of the articles in AM were later reprinted in C&C(USA). It ran for 4 years and featured roughly 24 issues for around 800 pages or so. Barry's 14 issues total 558 pages Regards, Bob Pearson nb: TM 1 /32 Sopwith Triplane ---------- > From: Redwilde@bdsbbs.com (Redwilde) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: AM offer #2 > Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 01:37:55 -0500 > > > It currently looks like we may be able to scrounge up the four volumes > without having to buy the whole set if we can only find vol.I. It was > also mentioned that it looks like the seller of the full set may take a > $100 offer. If we don't come up with Vol.I by other means, I'd be > willing to pay the $100 to buy the full set and then send a copy of > Vol.I in to the library. > > Brian > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:20:22 -0800 From: "Gillian & Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale Message-ID: <004801bd473e$001eb9c0$7010c2cf@rayboorm> Ray delurks for 5 mins long enought to say you can count him in too, for whatever the amount ends up being. Ray Boorman (Gillian_Boorman@bc.sympatico.ca) -----Original Message----- From: David R.L. Laws To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale >Bob, > >Count me in for a share on the split > >REGARDS > >DAVID > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:52:14 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Contributors to the AM fund Message-ID: <07521461104660@KAIEN.COM> Me again, Okay, here is who I have listed so far. If each of the 18 members listed below contribute $10 we will have $55 left over to go towards postage (by contributing you get a copy, postage extra) - $15 per person would probably cover the cost of postage as well Ray Boorman Brian Reddington-Wilde Rick Ewing Dave Watts Steve Perry John Huggins Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton David Laws Shane Weier Chris Banyai-Riepl Ken Hagerup Robert Karr Bill Bacon Alberto Rada Matt Bittner ? Pedro Nuno Soares Graham Nash Bob Pearson regards, Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 16:43:34 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: Contributors to the AM fund Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980304164334.00734d4c@philonline.com.ph> How about me? I failed to say that I'm in? I'm in! How much will it be then, 10 or 15? I'd like to send cash via registered airmail but I don't think I'll be able to buy dollars in the required denominations over here. I have some money with my brother in LA. I'll ask him to send the cash for me. >Okay, here is who I have listed so far. If each of the 18 members listed >below contribute $10 we will have $55 left over to go towards postage (by >contributing you get a copy, postage extra) - $15 per person would probably >cover the cost of postage as well > >Ray Boorman >Brian Reddington-Wilde >Rick Ewing >Dave Watts >Steve Perry >John Huggins >Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton >David Laws >Shane Weier >Chris Banyai-Riepl >Ken Hagerup >Robert Karr >Bill Bacon >Alberto Rada >Matt Bittner ? >Pedro Nuno Soares >Graham Nash >Bob Pearson > >regards, > Bob Pearson > > ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:50:11 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: AM Offer Message-ID: <19980304.050134.8966.1.mbittner@juno.com> Sure, still put me down as a contributor, even though I'm sure we can get copies from elsewhere. I will try to call Greg VW tonight, and ask. Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:49:27 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: <19980304.050134.8966.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:18:42 -0500 Charles Hart writes: > Some of what has been said about the Toko SSW D-III makes me > wonder about the origins of its master. Someone mentioned that > the top wing chord was a couple of millimeters too short. This > was a fault of a Czech resin that was the basis for bits of the > Pegasus kits. Pegasus also had a horizontal stabilizer that was > a little shy on chord as well. Is this so with the Toko kit? The horizontal tail on the SSW *is* a bit shy all around. However, it's not as "noticable" as on the wing chord. Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:26:40 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: AM Offer Message-ID: <11264032104913@KAIEN.COM> Okay, We now have twenty members expressing interest. At the rate of $15 per person, each contributor will be able to get a copy postpaid (probably surface mail) and Bill/Rick will have their copying costs covered as well. Bob ---------- > From: mbittner@juno.com > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: AM Offer > Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:03:59 -0500 > > Sure, still put me down as a contributor, even though I'm sure we can get > copies from elsewhere. I will try to call Greg VW tonight, and ask. > > > Matt Bittner > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:00:12 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: Re: Contributors to the AM fund Message-ID: <19980304120452.AAA11641@johng> Bob: Although I'm late to the party sign me on too. - John ---------- > From: Bob Pearson > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Contributors to the AM fund > Date: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 1:52 AM > > > Me again, > > Okay, here is who I have listed so far. If each of the 18 members listed > below contribute $10 we will have $55 left over to go towards postage (by > contributing you get a copy, postage extra) - $15 per person would probably > cover the cost of postage as well > > Ray Boorman > Brian Reddington-Wilde > Rick Ewing > Dave Watts > Steve Perry > John Huggins > Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton > David Laws > Shane Weier > Chris Banyai-Riepl > Ken Hagerup > Robert Karr > Bill Bacon > Alberto Rada > Matt Bittner ? > Pedro Nuno Soares > Graham Nash > Bob Pearson > > regards, > Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:35:55 -0500 From: bucky@mail.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Contributors to the AM fund Message-ID: <199803041235.HAA15109@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Bob Count me in also. I know, I'm a little late. Basketball season should be over for the team I coach tonight, so I'll have more time to read email when it comes in. I must be a few days behind, at least! Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:00:50 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley Barrett) To: wwi Subject: Re: Contributors to the AM fund Message-ID: Bob, >Ray Boorman >Brian Reddington-Wilde >Rick Ewing >Dave Watts >Steve Perry >John Huggins >Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton >David Laws >Shane Weier >Chris Banyai-Riepl >Ken Hagerup >Robert Karr >Bill Bacon >Alberto Rada >Matt Bittner ? >Pedro Nuno Soares >Graham Nash >Bob Pearson > >regards, > Bob Pearson Whoa! Me too! You spend a couple of late nights at work and look what happens... Kevin Barrett. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:17:29 +0100 From: hans.juergen.glueck@gis-online.de To: wwi Subject: Re: Contributors to the AM fund Message-ID: Bob, >Ray Boorman >Brian Reddington-Wilde >Rick Ewing >Dave Watts >Steve Perry >John Huggins >Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton >David Laws >Shane Weier >Chris Banyai-Riepl >Ken Hagerup >Robert Karr >Bill Bacon >Alberto Rada >Matt Bittner ? >Pedro Nuno Soares >Graham Nash >Bob Pearson > >regards, > Bob Pearson Me too! Hans-Juergen Glueck ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:44:13 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale Message-ID: <199803041345.HAA23597@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> Sounds good, Bob. I am willing to help fund the purcahse and copies. Paul A. Schwartzkopf > So far of all the ideas, I like this one best. Although Bill and I are > willing to spend $100 each I should think it would come to less than > that - I believe the seller wants around $100 so if it is agreeable I > will send out a letter with that as the amount bid. Or to be sure we > get it, I could offer $150 and we then split that amongst whoever > wants a copy of it - original to the list library. I will wait until > Friday before sending the letter. > regards, > Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:53:20 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: TV Alert Message-ID: <199803041354.HAA23686@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> For those who have access to cable's History Channel: Tonight at 10:00 EST and 9:00 CST (USA) they have listed two 30 minute programs. The first is on Lawrence of Arabia, and the second is on the Lafayette Escadrille. Have not seen them myself, so I cannot couch for their quality. Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 15:05:32 PST From: silverinfo@czechia.com To: wwi Subject: RE: Munsell Color Program Message-ID: On Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:54:50 -0500 Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador wrote: >Ivan: i've run the Munsell color conversion program on your lozenge camo >candidates with mixed results. here's what i've gotten: > ---snip--- >your 5 color pattern > >all color combinations resulted in "invalid argument" and program >termination. > >i believe this occurred because of the mathematical relationships between >RGB, CMY, and CMYK and CIE space equivalents, and/or the program's look-up >table bounds were exceeded. > >phillip Phillip, Im a little confused now. Did you put my (Bob Pearson's respectively) CMYK values into the software to get Munsell HSV values or did you create an CMYK and RGB values list from available (and existing) Munsell codes? Attached is a lozenge colour shades fromm WWI website, would it be possible to run this Munsell values through the program? Thanks Ivan Subrt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:45:05 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale Message-ID: <01BD475A.991A2C60.panz-meador@vsti.com> same here... phillip -----Original Message----- From: David R.L. Laws [SMTP:laws@webtime.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 9:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale Bob, Count me in for a share on the split REGARDS DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:00:19 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Munsell Color Program Message-ID: <01BD475C.B9BBD520.panz-meador@vsti.com> Ivan: i didn't see any attachments on your message; however, they're probably unnecessary since i started with the Methuen color references from your website and your CMYK values listed. the values for RGB and Munsell HVC are output by the program. as i said, several combinations led to "invalid argument" calls, at which the program bombs out. the 4-color lozenge shades which bombed are B-deep turquoise, olive brown, and C-yellow ochre; the program was not run for deep turquoise (25E7), pea green (4D4), or yellow ochre (5C7) since you didn't provide CMYK equivalents, and the program doesn't accept Methuen references. yesterday, i used some simplified color transformation equations to convert the colors from CMYK to CMY to RGB, then putting the RBG combination into the Munsell program "just to see what would happen". the program didn't bomb this time, and there were no mathematical problems in the formulation or conversion (note that i used SIMPLIFIED conversion formulas, however- -see the URL at www.wmin.ac.uk/ITRG/docs/coloureq/COL_22.htm for these simple and perhaps insufficient equations if you're interested). therefore, as time allows, i will finish converting all your quoted CMYKs using the process i've just outlined, to get RGB and Munsell HVC values. hope this clarifies what i did. should be able to do the other stuff this weekend. phillip -----Original Message----- From: silverinfo@czechia.com [SMTP:silverinfo@czechia.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 8:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Munsell Color Program On Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:54:50 -0500 Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador wrote: >Ivan: i've run the Munsell color conversion program on your lozenge camo >candidates with mixed results. here's what i've gotten: > ---snip--- >your 5 color pattern > >all color combinations resulted in "invalid argument" and program >termination. > >i believe this occurred because of the mathematical relationships between >RGB, CMY, and CMYK and CIE space equivalents, and/or the program's look-up >table bounds were exceeded. > >phillip Phillip, Im a little confused now. Did you put my (Bob Pearson's respectively) CMYK values into the software to get Munsell HSV values or did you create an CMYK and RGB values list from available (and existing) Munsell codes? Attached is a lozenge colour shades fromm WWI website, would it be possible to run this Munsell values through the program? Thanks Ivan Subrt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 09:20:59 -0800 (PST) From: MCCLURE@skynet.dcs.eis.lmco.com To: WWI Subject: Re: Contributors to the AM fund Message-ID: <980304092059.2020d448@skynet.dcs.eis.lmco.com> Count me in too. Just tell me which you need - $10 or $15. And by the way, what mailing address should we send the worthy donations to? Kent McClure ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 12:52:00 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Attn: Mike M. Message-ID: <2.2.32.19980304175200.006bf2d4@conted.swann.gatech.edu> Sorry again, List, but Mike's e-mail address is not working again. Mike, I haven't heard from you; please get in touch with me Re: the a/c cards if you're still interested. Thanks. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:50:52 -0800 From: "Gillian & Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: TV Alert Message-ID: <003a01bd4796$4da57f00$2510c2cf@rayboorm> Ray De-lurks once again. I hate this, yet another thing I can't watch because we cant get the History Channel (we get History TV up here in Canada, different channel) and the cable companies won't carry the history channel. T E Lawrence is one of my heroes too (warts and all, maybe because he was a motorcyclist and so am I). ugrhh fbut% Ray Boorman -----Original Message----- From: Paul Schwartzkopf To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 5:50 AM Subject: TV Alert >For those who have access to cable's History Channel: > >Tonight at 10:00 EST and 9:00 CST (USA) they have listed two 30 >minute programs. The first is on Lawrence of Arabia, and the second >is on the Lafayette Escadrille. Have not seen them myself, so I >cannot couch for their quality. >Paul A. Schwartzkopf > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:54:11 -0800 From: "Gillian & Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: TV Alert Message-ID: <000801bd4797$04b75740$9710c2cf@rayboorm> Ray De-lurks once again. I hate this, yet another thing I can't watch because we cant get the History Channel (we get History TV up here in Canada, different channel) and the cable companies won't carry the history channel. T E Lawrence is one of my heroes too (warts and all, maybe because he was a motorcyclist and so am I). ugrhh fbut% Ray Boorman >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul Schwartzkopf >To: Multiple recipients of list >Date: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 5:50 AM >Subject: TV Alert > > >>For those who have access to cable's History Channel: >> >>Tonight at 10:00 EST and 9:00 CST (USA) they have listed two 30 >>minute programs. The first is on Lawrence of Arabia, and the second >>is on the Lafayette Escadrille. Have not seen them myself, so I >>cannot couch for their quality. >>Paul A. Schwartzkopf >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:35:58 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: heh, this should be good... Message-ID: <01BD476A.160D0760.panz-meador@vsti.com> OK, here goes... just received 4 color lozenge decals from americal/gryphon. these include the top and interior top/reversed and bottom, as well as blue/pink rib tapes. registration seems great, with the possible exception of the rib tapes (what i figured would be a rose pink turned out to be purple). my question to the list is: any comments on the 4 color bottoms? they certainly seem dark, especially in comparison with some references/color artwork i've seen (and realizing that older references may have been surpassed in terms of research). TIA, phillip ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 19:10:23 -01 From: infosilver@czechia.com To: wwi Subject: RE: Prague visit Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Feb 1998 09:19:16 -0500 Sandy Adam wrote: >.............. >> Sorry for any problems caused, I'll try to contact you off >> list this night. >> >> Ivan Subrt >> >Ivan (or anybody else) >I'm trying to arrange a weekend break to Prague with my wife in March. >I'd like to visit the Museum to see the Knoller and Anatra etc, but is >there anything else I should try to fit in? >Also are there any good modelshops you could recommend in central Praha? >Many thanks >Sandy Sandy, I came across your email right now and I hope my answer wouldn't come too late: There are two military aviation exhibitions at Prague: 1. National Museum of Technology, lying nearby of the centre of Prague. The collection includes Anatra Anasal an Knoller C.II planes you mentioned. Address: Kostelni 42. Praha 7 - Holesovice Phone +420 2 20399111 (central) +420 2 373825 (lecturer) 2. The Aviation Museum (a branch of Historical Institute of the Army of the Czech Republic) situated to the north from Prague at Kbely. The museum has about 250 aircraft, 110 of which are on display for the public. The exhibition includes (Hall A): a Wagner type Austrian WWI hangar, SPAD S-VII fighter and Aero Ae-10 (Czechoslovak post-war copy of Hansa Brandenburg B.I). Address: Letecke muzeum, Mladoboleslavska ul., 197 00 Praha-Kbely Phone: +420 2 20 20 75 04 (lecturer] +420 2 20 20 61 11 (box office) There are more then 10 modelling shops throughout Prague. One of the biggest is MPM shop situated in the centre of Prague (19 Myslikova St., phone +420 2 292052) and selling all big brands of plastic model kits, Eduard kits and PE and own short run kits. But, OMO the best shop called Legato lies quite far in the southern outskirts of Prague (It stocks a fine selection of rare kits including resin and vacus). Tell me when you are coming and I'll try to meet you if you would like to. It would be great to see and talk to someone from the list personally. Cheers! Ivan Subrt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 21:27:49 -01 From: infosilver@czechia.com To: wwi Subject: RE: Munsell Color Program Message-ID: Sorry, my fault, I'm sending the list now. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Cammoflage Patterns The following references are from the December 1969 Issue of Scale Models magazine from an article entitled Cammoflage Petterns 4 Color Pattern Top Surface Methuen Ref. Munsell Ref. =============== =============== =========================== Dull Blue 21D4 6PB/4.9/5.1 Deep Turquiose 24E7-25E7 5B/2.4/4.6-7BG/3.7/4.4 Olive Brown 4D4-5D4 5Y/5.9/2.9-8.5YR/5.5/2.8 Pea Green 29D5-30D5 5GY/5.9/3.1-2GY/5.9/3.1 Bottom Surface Methuen Ref. Munsell Ref. =============== =============== =========================== Dull China Blue 23D4 2.5PB/5.1/4.1 Dull Grey Green 26D4 7G/5.4/2.3 Yellow Ocre 4C7-5C7 5Y/6.3/8.4-9YR/6.0/8.3 Greyish Rose 11B5 9RP/6.2/6.7 5 Color Pattern Top Surface Methuen Ref. Munsell Ref. =============== =============== =========================== Violet Between Between 17E5 - 17E6 2.5P/3.6/5.5-2P/3.0/6.8 Honey Yellow 4D6-5D6 5.5Y/5.8/5.6-8.5YR/5.2/5.3 Deep Grey-Green 28D5-28D6 6.5GY/5.7/3.2-7GY/5.6/4.4 Deep Turquoise 24E6-24F6 6B/3.7/3.9-7B/2.9/3.0 Dull Deep Blue 21E6-21E7 5.5PB/3.2/6.4-5PB/2.9/7.6 Bottom Surface Methuen Ref. Munsell Ref. =============== =============== =========================== Grey Magenta 14D4-15D4 9.5P/5.1/5.1-5.5P/5.0/5.3 Golden Wheat 4B6-5B6 3.5Y/7.6/7.7-7.5YR/7.3/7.6 Greyish Ruby 12C5-12D5 5.5RP/5.4/5.9-5.5RP/4.6/5.2 Grey Turquoise 24D4-25D4 8.5B/5.3/2.7-1.5B/5.3/1.9 Copenhagen Blue 21D6-22D6 6PB/4.0/7.9-4.5PB/4.3/7.4 ----------------------------------------------------------- Cheers! Ivan Subrt ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 920 *********************