WWI Digest 918 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale by Graham Nash 2) Toko by mbittner@juno.com 3) Re: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale by Bob Pearson 4) Re: Aerodrome Modeler by perrysm@juno.com 5) Re: Travel times c. June,1918: Newcastle to Murmansk by perrysm@juno.com 6) Re: SOS by perrysm@juno.com 7) Re: Aerodrome Modeler by perrysm@juno.com 8) Re: Aerodrome Modeler by Bob Pearson 9) Re: Aerodrome Modeler by Joey Valenciano 10) Re: Aerodrome Modeler by Kenneth Hagerup 11) Re: LIST LIBRARY by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 12) Re: Nieuport 17 Interior by "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." 13) Re: Albatros D.V D.2065/17 (Richard Flashar, then Hans von Hippe by The Shannons 14) Possible PC-10 paint chips. by perrysm@juno.com (Steven M Perry) 15) Re: WW1 helmet color and removing paint by "Charles Duckworth" 16) Re: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale by Bill Bacon 17) Re: WW1 helmet color and removing paint by perrysm@juno.com (Steven M Perry) 18) Toko Kits by perrysm@juno.com (Steven M Perry) 19) Re: Toko by Matthew Zivich 20) Re: Toko by Carlos 21) RE: Toko by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 22) Re: Aerodrome Modeler- V2/3/4 by BStett3770 23) RE: Albatros D.V D.2065/17 (Richard Flashar, then Hans von Hippe by Shane Weier 24) Re: Aerodrome Modeler- V2/3/4 by mbittner@juno.com 25) Re: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale by Pedro Nuno Soares 26) Re: Fok.D.7 interior by Pedro Nuno Soares 27) Re: Russian Aircraft. Calling out the List librarian by Pedro Nuno Soares ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 10:55:15 -0800 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale Message-ID: <199803031052.AA17242@egate2.citicorp.com> Bob Pearson wrote: > > Okay group here is a scoop for you. I know a fellow offlist with the ENTIRE > Aerodrome modeler for sale. What are we willing to pay for it? He has asked > me to write him a snail and make an offer. This is for 16 issues at around > 50 pages each - let's say 800pages I don't think I could afford to buy it by myself, but I'm more than happy to chip in so that we can obtain it from the List Library. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 05:03:15 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Toko Message-ID: <19980303.050320.8966.4.mbittner@juno.com> Well, my letter to Toko went out yesterday. How is everyone else doing? FWIW, I took Phillip's letter, added a couple of personal lines, and that was it. Thanks, Phillip! I'll start on the collective list letter today, and once Phillip gets back, see if it's possible to translate. If Phillip can't find someone, at least Erik can get it into Russian. Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 03:12:50 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale Message-ID: <11125067101403@KAIEN.COM> Graham, Excellent idea - I'll offer $100US plus whatever the list can contribute by the end of the week. Regards, Bob Pearson nl; CBC Radio overnight (Dusty is on a break) ---------- > From: Graham Nash > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 05:55:25 -0500 > > Bob Pearson wrote: > > > > > Okay group here is a scoop for you. I know a fellow offlist with the ENTIRE > > Aerodrome modeler for sale. What are we willing to pay for it? He has asked > > me to write him a snail and make an offer. This is for 16 issues at around > > 50 pages each - let's say 800pages > > I don't think I could afford to buy it by myself, but I'm more than > happy to chip in so that we can obtain it from the List Library. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 05:56:14 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler Message-ID: <19980303.061438.10990.2.perrysm@juno.com> > >> >I HAVE A FREE COPIER!!! Sorry, didn't mean to shout, but this is >getting >exciting! Plus, Riordan lives only a hop,skip, and jump from me and I >can >deliver the finished product fairly quickly. I guess what I'm saying >is....I >VOLUNTEER!!! > >-Rick- > Give that boy a battlefield commission! sp _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 06:06:17 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Travel times c. June,1918: Newcastle to Murmansk Message-ID: <19980303.061438.10990.4.perrysm@juno.com> > >Even WAGS (Wild assed guesses) are welcome. > >Thanks, > >Riordan > Riordan: I saw a paperback book about Allied involvement in 1919 Russia. I forget the title. It did mention alot about supplies coming from England to Murmansk & Arcangel. I'don't recall the exact travel time but 2 wks would probably be a min. I'll look for the book or at least the title. sp _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 06:00:17 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: SOS Message-ID: <19980303.061438.10990.3.perrysm@juno.com> On Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:17:44 -0500 rojo1@concentric.net writes: >Steve: > >I'll help if I can. I've never handled a scanner, but I've installed >every other peripheral under the sun on PCs (I'm no good with Macs). > Rob: Thanks, seems that the Mustek 1200 III EP and the HP 722C have software drivers that don't get along. Additionally my fan died and the machine was overheating. Kevin Wenker has the same combo and has discovered a sequence to load the drivers that seems to work. I'll try it once I get the fan replaced. thanks again SP _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 06:13:17 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler Message-ID: <19980303.061438.10990.5.perrysm@juno.com> >Okay group here is a scoop for you. I know a fellow offlist with the >ENTIRE >Aerodrome modeler for sale. What are we willing to pay for it? He has >asked >me to write him a snail and make an offer. This is for 16 issues at >around >50 pages each - let's say 800pages > >regards, > Bob Pearson Bob: I'm good for a modest contribution if these are to be purchased for the list library. Contact me off list if you get enough other interest to do anything. Steven Perry perrysm@juno.com No war is "Great", but we all know which one had the Great airplanes! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 03:33:13 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler Message-ID: <11331372901427@KAIEN.COM> Steve, Good point. Yes, these would be for the list. actually I would send them to someone (Rick, Bill or . . . . ) to make copies available to Riordan to store in his temperature and humidity controlled vault. regards, Bob Pearson ---------- > From: perrysm@juno.com > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 06:22:22 -0500 > > > >Okay group here is a scoop for you. I know a fellow offlist with the > >ENTIRE > >Aerodrome modeler for sale. What are we willing to pay for it? He has > >asked > >me to write him a snail and make an offer. This is for 16 issues at > >around > >50 pages each - let's say 800pages > > > >regards, > > Bob Pearson > > > Bob: > > I'm good for a modest contribution if these are to be purchased for the > list library. > Contact me off list if you get enough other interest to do anything. > > > Steven Perry > perrysm@juno.com > > No war is "Great", but we all know which one had the Great airplanes! > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 17:36:22 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980303173622.0072d1d4@philonline.com.ph> > Speaking of which, I vaguely remember a thread on Bessoneau [sp?] >hangars......did we get a definitive answer on that one? I've just discovered >that there's an article in an old Scale Models [?], which includes a very >good set of drawings. I believe what we were looking for was a tent hangar (German?) that could accomodate 2 single seaters. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 07:21:14 -0600 From: Kenneth Hagerup To: wwi Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler Message-ID: <34FC03CA.52C1@prodigy.net> Mick Fauchon wrote: > Speaking of which, I vaguely remember a thread on Bessoneau [sp?] > hangars......did we get a definitive answer on that one? I've just discovered > that there's an article in an old Scale Models [?], which includes a very > good set of drawings. > Anybody still interested? I definitely am interested. Ken Hagerup 11419 South 43rd Ave Omaha, NE 68123 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:44:55 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: LIST LIBRARY Message-ID: <199803031346.HAA08201@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> Good idea. May I also suggest volunteering material to Riordan (to make copies) and have on hand for any requests. Riordan--If you were serious the other day about borrowing my _Aircraft_Archives_ book(s), let me know. I would be happy to let you borrow them for a couple of weeks to make copies. Not willing to part with them permanently yet! Paul A. Schwartzkopf > I'm probably being really dumb, but is there a List of the List > Library's holdings available anywhere - What do you reckon Alan ? > > Also, isn't there a case for assisting Riordan by establishing a > reference/ copy request protocol; > > As one recipient of his generosity I'd be very happy to provide, at the > very least, an SAE - If you know what your'e after ( via a list of > references ) and the approx no of pages we could all donate something to > defray copying expenses too - If Riordan won't accept it, the resulting > pot could be used to fund occassional purchases to add to the donated > volumes he already holds > > Hope this isn't out of order ! If not, how about it guys ? > > A colonial 2c worth > > REGARDS > > DAVID > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:08:25 -0800 From: "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." To: wwi Subject: Re: Nieuport 17 Interior Message-ID: At 02:42 AM 3/3/98 -0500, you wrote: >> There was a Fine Scale Modeler article awhile back that had some details, > > True, there was, but it was *very* rudimentery, especially for 1/32. >> including an instrument panel lay-out. > > No instrument-panel as such, if fact I think it said something >like: "instruments were attached to convenient frame-members". So what >instruments? > The web page of the National Aviation Museum, Canada has a color cockpit photo of their Nieuport 17 replica. I downloaded it and have it saved as a jpg. image. If you don't have Web access, send me your e-mail and I can send you the image. Fernando Lamas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 10:25:07 -0600 From: The Shannons To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatros D.V D.2065/17 (Richard Flashar, then Hans von Hippe Message-ID: <34FC2EE2.526F5F8C@ix.netcom.com> Shane Weier wrote: > Bob, > > You post, promptly and generously, > > >There is another photo of D.2065/17 in the December 1974 Wings. In this > one > >vHippel is standing with his sister behind the port wing beside the > cockpit. > >Unfortunately the light on the wing is at such an angle that pattern > can't > >be discerned. I can send you a scan oif this if you like. > > > > This marking is on one of the Aeromaster sheets. Anyone know how *they* > interpret it? > > Shane > (sdw@qld.mim.com.au) AeroMaster has the wings as green/lilac, but just give a generalized depiction of the pattern. They do not include the white chevron, and no information is given about the underwing 'F'. Just to complete the listing, ScaleMaster also lists the wings as green/purple, but with the chevron; their dragon is monotoned red and not nearly as chubby as the pictures -- a decidedly poor likeness, again, no word about the 'F'. Which then brings me to my own dumb question. Can someone describe the underwing F for me before I die of appoplexy? Which wing underside, is it block, cursive, old German? How big? Does it read from the front or back? Inquiring minds want to know. -- This has been Mark and/or Mary Shannon at Shingend@ix.netcom.com History manages to get away with cliches no novelist could. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:18:56 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com (Steven M Perry) To: wwi Subject: Possible PC-10 paint chips. Message-ID: <19980303.113651.17134.0.perrysm@juno.com> Question: Does anyone know for sure whether or not the paint on a WWI infantry helmet is the same as PC-10? I have my Grandfather's helmet. It made it through France unscathed but was wounded by a day-glo flower and peace sign painted on during the Vietnam era. I'm fixing to match the color as best I can and spray it over. If this is real PC-10 I want to take some paint chips before I paint it over. The helmet has been inside and out of the sun so the color hasn't faded. If anyone knows one way for the other, please sing out. Steven Perry perrysm@juno.com No war is "Great" but we all know which one had the Great Airplanes! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:26:44 -0600 From: "Charles Duckworth" To: Subject: Re: WW1 helmet color and removing paint Message-ID: <199803031732.LAA29485@mail.primary.net> > I have my Grandfather's helmet. It made it through France unscathed but > was wounded by a day-glo flower and peace sign painted on during the > Vietnam era. I'm fixing to match the color as best I can and spray it > over. > Steve, before painting over the day-glo you might want to try and use a paint remover such as what Scale-coat makes. You could put a small amount on the day-glo and it washes off with soap and water; using this approach, you might be able to carefully remove the 1970's paint and leave the 1918 color intact. I have two American doughboy helmets and I wouldn't put their color in the same hue range as PC-10 - are you looking at a British helmet? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 11:45:50 -0600 From: Bill Bacon To: wwi Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale Message-ID: <34FC41CE.F04D15C1@netjava.net> Bob, Count me in for $100US. I would hope that the originals will become the property of the List Library. I will offer to make copies for each of the contrbutors asking only that they pay the shipping charges. 800 pages would run into big bucks in a hurry. The copying would be free to all contributors. Cheers, Bill B. Bob Pearson wrote: > Graham, > > Excellent idea - I'll offer $100US plus whatever the list can contribute by > the end of the week. > > Regards, > Bob Pearson > > nl; CBC Radio overnight (Dusty is on a break) > > ---------- > > From: Graham Nash > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale > > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 05:55:25 -0500 > > > > Bob Pearson wrote: > > > > > > > > Okay group here is a scoop for you. I know a fellow offlist with the > ENTIRE > > > Aerodrome modeler for sale. What are we willing to pay for it? He has > asked > > > me to write him a snail and make an offer. This is for 16 issues at > around > > > 50 pages each - let's say 800pages > > > > I don't think I could afford to buy it by myself, but I'm more than > > happy to chip in so that we can obtain it from the List Library. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:57:24 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com (Steven M Perry) To: wwi Subject: Re: WW1 helmet color and removing paint Message-ID: <19980303.134210.15614.0.perrysm@juno.com> >I have two American doughboy helmets and I wouldn't put their color in >the >same hue range as PC-10 - are you looking at a British helmet? > No, U.S. Army. Ill try your idea first, thanks. sp _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:42:10 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com (Steven M Perry) To: wwi Subject: Toko Kits Message-ID: <19980303.134210.15614.1.perrysm@juno.com> Just got my two Toko kits, the Pfalz & the SSW. Yahoo! Those Ukranian boys are fixin to teach some big model companies a little old fashoned capitalism 101. I'll be writing them at the address on the box. As far as my wish list goes, at this quality and value, I'll buy any WWI subject they make. Steven Perry perrysm@juno.com No war is "Great" but we all know which one had the Great Airplanes! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:07:39 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Zivich To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Toko Message-ID: Concerning letters to Toko, you might try to get a translation of your letter(s) from English into Ukraine by means of a Ukraine Counselate office. There may be one in Chicago because of the large number of Ukraine citizens residing there. I would not recommend translating into Russian, you may as well leave it in English. But I'm sure any Ukraine citizen would appreciate an attempt at communicating in their native language, especially if you are asking them for a favor. FTHM, Matt Z. On Tue, 3 Mar 1998 mbittner@juno.com wrote: > Well, my letter to Toko went out yesterday. How is everyone else doing? > > FWIW, I took Phillip's letter, added a couple of personal lines, and that > was it. Thanks, Phillip! > > I'll start on the collective list letter today, and once Phillip gets > back, see if it's possible to translate. If Phillip can't find someone, > at least Erik can get it into Russian. > > > Matt Bittner > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 14:18:56 -0500 From: Carlos To: wwi Subject: Re: Toko Message-ID: <34FC57A0.1FB96081@erols.com> A friend of mine and co-worker is Ukranian, and may enjoy helping me out. Shall I ask him? Email me the final version and I'll pass it on.... - Carlos H. ICQ# 1142918, MAPPC# 1068, EAA# 572117, USUA Club #4 Matthew Zivich wrote: > > Concerning letters to Toko, you might try to get a translation of > your letter(s) from English into Ukraine by means of a Ukraine > Counselate office. There may be one in Chicago because of the large > number of Ukraine citizens residing there. I would not recommend > translating into Russian, you may as well leave it in English. But I'm > sure any Ukraine citizen would appreciate an attempt at communicating in > their native language, especially if you are asking them for a favor. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:04:59 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Toko Message-ID: <01BD46AD.5B1792C0.panz-meador@vsti.com> carlos: that would be great, as i've had no luck in soliciting a private individual down here (a company here can do it, but a minimum charge of $100.00 is beyond my means...) to do the translation. i agree with matt concerning the translation also--russian rather than ukrainian would possibly tend to piss off the recipient, given this century's very interesting history, e.g. "no more ww1 stuff for these russophile clowns!". i can provide you with copies in the following formats: - ascii text - MS word 7/word 6 for win95/word 6 for DOS/and earlier versions - wordperfect (as converted under office97) which would you like? phillip p.s. just received today FMP's austro-hungarian army a/c book---AWESOME. i can only imagine what a splendid job they did with the russian and french volumes, and eagerly look forward to getting those when $s allow... -----Original Message----- From: Carlos [SMTP:chatten@erols.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 1:23 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Toko A friend of mine and co-worker is Ukranian, and may enjoy helping me out. Shall I ask him? Email me the final version and I'll pass it on.... - Carlos H. ICQ# 1142918, MAPPC# 1068, EAA# 572117, USUA Club #4 Matthew Zivich wrote: > > Concerning letters to Toko, you might try to get a translation of > your letter(s) from English into Ukraine by means of a Ukraine > Counselate office. There may be one in Chicago because of the large > number of Ukraine citizens residing there. I would not recommend > translating into Russian, you may as well leave it in English. But I'm > sure any Ukraine citizen would appreciate an attempt at communicating in > their native language, especially if you are asking them for a favor. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:39:14 EST From: BStett3770 To: wwi Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler- V2/3/4 Message-ID: <5030359b.34fc6a74@aol.com> Hi Guy Just when through my stuff, I have the following Aerodrome Modelers Vol #2 1976 Complete Vol.#3 1977 Complete Vol.#4 1978 Complete I noticed someone said they had a free copier , If you want I'll mail em and a copy can be made for the list lib. - That way we can save on having to buy the set. If someone has Vol #1 we would then have a full set. Don't think that AM went past Vol. 4 Let me know. Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:35:44 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: wwi Subject: RE: Albatros D.V D.2065/17 (Richard Flashar, then Hans von Hippe Message-ID: <199803032148.HAA00470@mimmon.mim.com.au> Mark, >AeroMaster has the wings as green/lilac, but just give a generalized >depiction of the pattern. They do not include the white chevron, and no >information is given about the underwing 'F'. Just to complete the listing, >ScaleMaster also lists the wings as green/purple, but with the chevron; >their dragon is monotoned red and not nearly as chubby as the pictures -- a >decidedly poor likeness, again, no word about the 'F'. >Which then brings me to my own dumb question. Can someone describe the >underwing F for me before I die of appoplexy? Which wing underside, is it >block, cursive, old German? How big? Does it read from the front or back? Americal has them as black block capital "F"'s one rib spacing inboard of the underside crosses and extending from leading to trailing edges. Both letters are aligned with the top against the leading dge. I don't know whether there is any photographic evidence of this, or whether old Hans told Peter Gray about it. But Americal has this to say: "As nearly as we can tell, it was also squadron practice to paint the initial of the pilot, in black, under both lower wings just inboard of the crosses. We cannot confirm this for every aircraft that we portray here, but for all those for which photos exist showing the aircraft in the correct attitude to see the lower wings (usually pranged!), the letters are there." I'm inclined to agree with A/G because the remainder of the Jasta markings (green/red tail, red nose) are *almost* universal, suggesting a fairly determined effort to be consistent. Flashar was jastafuhrer, so his plane was surely certain to bear the full panoply. Incidentally, Americals go on to say "We also know that initials under wings weren't changed when a different pilot took over the machine, at least not in some cases" ...so it's no surprise that von Hippel "H" was flying a machine marked "F" Hope this is of interest, and/or helps Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:31:36 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler- V2/3/4 Message-ID: <19980303.163146.14270.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:42:36 -0500 BStett3770 writes: >Vol #2 1976 Complete Don't send out Vol 2 No 6. This is on its way to Rio de Janiro... Gee, a joke like that and I mess up the spelling...;-) Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:13:51 +0100 From: Pedro Nuno Soares To: "'ww1 modeling list'" Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler for Sale Message-ID: <01BD46FB.49D0D3C0@fei1-p3.telepac.pt> Bob, Bill, Graham and all the others who wrote about this First of all it sounds like a very nice Idea to have the list buy the = all collection. Second, Bill, as in past occasions, you're generosity is overwhelming. = Thanks for your more than generous offer. Third, still I don't think we should let Bill carry all the burden of = buying the issues for the library. The list has more than 100 members, = so it really shouldn't be that difficult to raise a sum that fits the = deal nicely. Here's what I propose to do: Each of us willing to contribute would send Bob, since he is the one who = will be doing the buying, the equivalent to what we usually spend on one = issue of a modelling magazine. That way I'm sure we'll raise enough = money for this project easily without causing to much of a strain on the = list members' finances.=20 In the event that more than a fair sum is raised all the surplus could = then be conveyed to the Great Darius Riordan, so that he can buy other = nice stuff for the list. Opinions? Also, could the non-american list members contribute in their national = currencies? As such, when Bob (sorry brother, but someone has got to do = it ...) exchanges all the foreign money for USD's maybe he can get a = lower overall exchange commission from the Bank. Opinions again? Um abraco Pedro Boy, this Library thing is getting very exciting. Great List. Great = Guys. Glad to be here. =00=00 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:54:35 +0100 From: Pedro Nuno Soares To: "'ww1 modeling list'" Subject: Re: Fok.D.7 interior Message-ID: <01BD46FB.67A45340@fei1-p3.telepac.pt> Mick >>I presume you've seen it "in the flesh". If it comes out that colour, then their interpretation isn't correct. In the colour photos it comes = out as a greenish grey-green, or light to mid- olive, which matches pretty = well with what I saw at the Deutsches Museum, which was why I was happy with Rev. 362. My photos do corroborate what I saw: a very light blueish or greenish = color. I'll try to have one or 2 of my photos scanned to send you, to = compare notes. Now I'll look in my cross reference tables to see what color revell 362 = is :-). > Just 20 centavos worth of loud speaking... Depending on the exchange-rate, that was my 20 Pf. of moderately loud speaking 80). Thanks for you pf. Um abraco Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:26:19 +0100 From: Pedro Nuno Soares To: "'ww1 modeling list'" Subject: Re: Russian Aircraft. Calling out the List librarian Message-ID: <01BD46FB.56860040@fei1-p3.telepac.pt> Darius, The Mighty List Librarian aka Rio Pequeno wrote: >Send it all, and let me know if I might reimburse you for copying/postage. You gotta be kiddin' (as you cowboys say...). Stuff will be on the post this week >Thanks, >Darius the Lesser, Rio Poco (small?) etc. You're welcome. Pedro ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 918 *********************