WWI Digest 914 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Fly fishing tippet material for rigging by "Charles Duckworth" 2) Re: Robert's Handley Page 0/400 by KarrArt 3) Re: book rescue by "Gerald P. McOsker" 4) Re: Fly fishing tippet material for rigging by "Leonard Endy" 5) Rigging wire sizes by Bill Bacon 6) Re: Rigging wire sizes by KarrArt 7) Re: A call out to Toko by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley Barrett) 8) Toko Pfalz D.XII by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley Barrett) 9) Re: Toko SSW D.III/D.IV, was Toko Pfalz D.XII by mbittner@juno.com 10) Re: Frank Luke's Eagle logo by "John Glaser" 11) Michael...and...Zepp Picture by Carlos 12) Re: Fly fishing tippet material for rigging by "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." 13) Re: Rigging wire sizes by "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." 14) Re: 1/48 ZEP by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 15) Re: Rigging wire sizes by KarrArt 16) Use for solvent cements by perrysm@juno.com 17) Aerorome Modeller by Redwilde@bdsbbs.com (Redwilde) 18) Re: Use for solvent cements by KarrArt 19) Re: Seat for R. Godfrey by Joey Valenciano 20) Re: Robert's Handley Page 0/400 by Joey Valenciano 21) Re: Air Enthusiast by lothar@televar.com (mark) 22) Re: Zepp models by lothar@televar.com (mark) 23) Re: Use for solvent cements by "Sandy Adam" 24) Re: Seat for R. Godfrey by perrysm@juno.com 25) Re: Use for solvent cements by perrysm@juno.com 26) Re: Fly fishing tippet material for rigging by "Charles Duckworth" 27) Aerdrome Modeler by mbittner@juno.com 28) RE: Frank Luke's Eagle logo by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 29) RE: A call out to Toko by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 30) RE: Munsell Color Program by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 18:13:29 -0600 From: "Charles Duckworth" To: Subject: Re: Fly fishing tippet material for rigging Message-ID: <199803010018.SAA01543@mail.primary.net> Still had the tippet line sitting by my keyboard from yesterday's posting, am glad I'm slow to put things away. Looked at the Dai-Riki brand I have and it appears to be round; size is 6X or .005. If memory is correct .005 is very close to 1/4 of an inch in 1/48th. I believe (memory again) was the size given in a Jenny rigging manual Bill Bacon made a copy of for me when I was rigging the Lindbergh model. If it's tapered or something other than round my 46 year old eyes can't tell........ Charlie nr: Classic Vintage Nose Art (Uncle's plane B-17G 'Tower of London' on page 53) nb: nix (foreign (Russia) exchange student arriving tomorrow and painting college daughter's room) nl: Moody Blues what else but 'On The Threshold of a Dream' ---------- > From: Fernando E. Lamas, M.D. > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Fly fishing tippet material for rigging > Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 4:40 PM > > At 02:13 PM 2/27/98 -0500, you wrote: > >I buy mine (.005) fishing line from a local fly fishing store for $3.95. > > From an old post: > > > I started using fly fishing tippet material recently and won't use > >anything else now. It comes in X sizes (4X, 5X, etc). 5X works real > >well for 1/48. It is limp, attaches well with white or super glue and..... > > Dumb fly fishing question: > > Following suggestions from an old post, I bought some 5X fly fishing > leader tippet material for rigging. To my surprise, the stuff is tapered > with the narrow end being .006 in diameter and increasing to .020 in > diameter at the thick end. > > Does this stuff also come in uniform thickness or is it always tapered? > I'd rather ask my dumb questions here rather than at the fishing store. > > Is 5X the consensus for the right size in 1/48? > > > Fernando Lamas > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 19:41:18 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: Robert's Handley Page 0/400 Message-ID: <3e72043f.34f8aeb1@aol.com> In a message dated 98-02-28 16:44:19 EST, you write: << Robert, Will it be ready for tomorrow? If yes, best of luck and don't forget to show it to us... Um abraco Pedro >> GRRRRR..........Thanks for asking anyway! About 3:00AM Thursday night-Friday morning it started to look hopeless to beat the Sunday deadline, but I'm still slugging away.Oh well, there's always the next show! I've taken a few construction shots along the way and I shall most certainly show it to you guys somehow! Geez, you won't believe how much larger this beast is than a Gotha.I've got an old Aurora built-up that's positively dwarfed by the 0/400. Thanks again for asking! Robert K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:12:58 -0500 From: "Gerald P. McOsker" To: wwi Subject: Re: book rescue Message-ID: To all on the list who have offered their advice on salvaging the DtaFiles/Windsocks a hearty thank you. Right now the entire freezer compartment is loaded with binders. I understand that this freezeer is frost free so that there is a chance tha ti theywill be dried out albeit with damage. There is no way to put them outside as rain threatens all the time. Today I just had a contractor in to correct the drainage problem. [That was another 3k] unfortunately insurance doesn't cover it [surface water exclusion] so I'm left iwth a suit against the contractor who screwed it up initially- fortunately- [or maybe not] I'm in the suit business- Yes- it is a good mantra- no books in basements- Thanks again Gerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 01:26:19 GMT From: "Leonard Endy" To: wwi Subject: Re: Fly fishing tippet material for rigging Message-ID: <34f8b815.907791@legend.firstsaga.com> On Sat, 28 Feb 1998 17:39:53 -0500, you wrote: > Following suggestions from an old post, I bought some 5X fly fishing >leader tippet material for rigging. To my surprise, the stuff is = tapered >with the narrow end being .006 in diameter and increasing to .020 in >diameter at the thick end. =20 > > Does this stuff also come in uniform thickness or is it always = tapered? >I'd rather ask my dumb questions here rather than at the fishing store. > I haven't done any fly fishing in over 20 years but back then tapered tippets were pretty much the norm. The idea was that you wanted to "present" the fly w/o the fish realizing it was fake. Since everything else has advanced over the years I would imagine that uniform thickness line is available. I have to run to the store to pick up some yard/garden items for my wife in the morning....guess I'll have to run by the fishing shop to see what I can find and I'll pass the info on to the list.. Len Endy lfendy@firstsaga.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 19:31:55 -0600 From: Bill Bacon To: WWI Aero Modelers Subject: Rigging wire sizes Message-ID: <34F8BA8B.FA6E8CB1@netjava.net> Friends, Here are wire sizes converted to scale size in the scales we collectively use. These are courtest of Clay Boyd, IPMS 5533. 0.020 -- 44/100 in 1/72, 96/100 in 1/48, 64/100 in 1/32. 0.015-- 80/100 in 1/72, 72/100 in 1/48, 48/100 in 1/32 0.010 -- 72/100 in 1/72, 48/100 in 1/48, 32/100 in 1/32 0.008 -- 58/100 in 1/72, 38/100 in 1/48, 25/100 in 1/32 0.006 -- 43/100 in 1/72, 29/100 in 1/48, 19/100 in 1/32 0.004 -- 29/100 in 1/72, 19/100 in 1/48, 13/100 in 1/32 0.001 -- 7/100 in 1/72, 5/100 in 1/48, 3/100 in 1/32 These are all to the nearest 100th of an inch. Cheers, Bill B. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:45:38 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: Rigging wire sizes Message-ID: Anybody know the conversions for fishing line rated in pounds? F'rinstance- 6lb line- what's its diameter? Robert K ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 22:00:09 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley Barrett) To: wwi Subject: Re: A call out to Toko Message-ID: >From Matt, we get: > >Thanks, Phillip. That's a great letter! > Agreed! >So, who's with me on this? Matt, I just picked up both Toko kits today, and am completely impressed. For the price, they are fantastic. My letter is going out on Monday. Kevin Barrett. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 22:06:15 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley Barrett) To: wwi Subject: Toko Pfalz D.XII Message-ID: Hello list and Pflaz D.XII experts: As I was saying, I picked up the Toko kits today and they're first-rate (for the price). I don't have scale plans for either the SSW D.III/IV or the Pfalz D.XII, but I do have unbuilt Pegasus kits to compare the Toko ones to. The Toko and Pegasus SSW D.IIIs are pretty close to one-another (and the Toko is far superior), but the D.XIIs are a different story. The wings of the Toko kit are significantly longer than the Pegasus offering, while the fuselage is much shorter. Which company's kit is closer to published plans? Can anyone compare the kits to a Datafile? TIA. Kevin Barrett. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:38:50 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Toko SSW D.III/D.IV, was Toko Pfalz D.XII Message-ID: <19980228.203851.14646.4.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:09:14 -0500 kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley Barrett) writes: >I don't have scale plans for either the SSW D.III/IV or the Pfalz D.XII, >but I do have unbuilt Pegasus kits to compare the Toko ones to. The Toko >and Pegasus SSW D.IIIs are pretty close to one-another (and the Toko is far >superior), but the D.XIIs are a different story. The wings of the Toko kit >are significantly longer than the Pegasus offering, while the fuselage is >much shorter. Well, when last I talked to Steve Hustad Himself, he mentioned the Toko wing on the SSW D.III suffers from the same problem all the other kits do: it's too short in chord. I was bummed when he told me this. Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:35:52 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: Re: Frank Luke's Eagle logo Message-ID: <19980301023948.AAA19894@johng> Scott: You might point Martin to: http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/history/ww1/ww1ins6.jpg It's the actual insignia from Luke's plane on display at the Air Force Museum in Dayton. - John ---------- > From: Scott M. Head > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Frank Luke's Eagle logo > Date: Saturday, February 28, 1998 4:11 AM > > Martin, > I'll pass this along to the WWI Mailing List I belong to... > > Guys? Any help for Martin? (please cc as well as the list) > > Cheers! > Scott M. Head > IPMS/Houston Scale Model Forum > > >Would anyone know the source of the eagle logo used by Lt. Frank Luke's > >27th Aero (WWI)? It looks like something that could have been lifted from > >a recruiting poster. Thanks. > >-- > >-Martin Speed of Cincinnati, OH- > > > >You are cordially invited to visit my terrific web site: > >http://www2.eos.net/speed/ > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 22:53:09 -0500 From: Carlos To: wwi Subject: Michael...and...Zepp Picture Message-ID: <34F8DBA5.4F79@erols.com> Michael, tried to sign you up but both addresses unfound ( bucky@mailbox.ptd.net and bucky@mail.ptd.net ). Any others? Sorry to everyone else on this list for the non-model related post. ok, to make it related: my wife has what looks to be original (or very old) photograph of a Zepp - on the pic is hand written "Hidelburg 1911". Any interest? If I can find it, I'll scan it in for you Zepp loons.... - Carlos H. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:38:14 -0800 From: "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." To: wwi Subject: Re: Fly fishing tippet material for rigging Message-ID: At 07:23 PM 2/28/98 -0500, you wrote: >Looked at the Dai-Riki brand I have >and it appears to be round; size is 6X or .005. If memory is correct .005 >is very close to 1/4 of an inch in 1/48th. >Charlie > >I haven't done any fly fishing in over 20 years but back then tapered >tippets were pretty much the norm. The idea was that you wanted to >"present" the fly w/o the fish realizing it was fake. Since >everything else has advanced over the years I would imagine that >uniform thickness line is available. > >Len Endy Thanks for the information. I went back to the fishing shop and, sure enough, the Dai-Riki fly-fishing line comes in tapered and uniform thickness varieties. Be careful which one you buy. I assume that the tapered material is used as the link between the thick line in the reel that has the weight to allow casting without sinkers and the ultrafine line that is tied to the fly itself. Each spool of 30 meters of the non-tapered variety cost me $3.57. I bought a spool of 6X (.005) for 1/48 and a spool of 3x (.008) for the 1/32 Curtiss Sparrowhawk that my wife gave me two Christmases ago and which rekindled my modelling memories of the 1960's. After all these dirigible posts, I pulled out the Sparrowhawk and put it on my "to do" list. That will also get me out of the doghouse that I put myself in that Christmas. When I opened the present, my wife proudly said that she had to look high and low to find a model of "the same kind of airplane that you told me you built as a boy". Before my brain was properly engaged, my mouth said, "Actually, I built World War I aircraft. The Sparrowhawk was carried onboard Navy dirigibles in the 1930's and......Why are you looking at me like that, Honey?" (Oops. Battle Stations! This is not a drill! Damage control parties carry out the Bill Clinton Alternate Story Line Plan #237!) "......and has always been one of my all-time favorite aircraft considering we were both in the Navy and I grew up in Miami where the Goodyear blimp was based and......are you believing any of this, Dear?" When I asked about the consensus for rigging line thicknesses (assuming a 1/4 inch cable in 1/1 scale) what I meant to ask was: Does the .005 thickness "looks right" on a finished 1/48 model or should a thicker line be used although .005 is "mathematically correct?" Fernando Lamas ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:11:20 -0800 From: "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." To: wwi Subject: Re: Rigging wire sizes Message-ID: At 08:50 PM 2/28/98 -0500, you wrote: >Anybody know the conversions for fishing line rated in pounds? F'rinstance- >6lb line- what's its diameter? >Robert K > On all quality fishing line brands, that information is listed on the label. The test number of fishing line will vary with the material used and it's type. For instance, the Maxima brand tapered fly-fishing leader line I bought by mistake is 6X, (.005 inch tippet end diameter) and rated at 3 lb test. The Dai-Riki uniform line 6X, (.005 inch diameter- 1/48 scale) is rated at 3.5 lb test. The Dai-Riki uniform line 3X, (.008 inch diameter- 1/32 scale) is rated at 8.25 lb test. Fernando Lamas ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:21:52 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/48 ZEP Message-ID: <199803010521.AA13880@ednet1.orednet.org> Lee Mensinger wrote: >No offence taken. But I assure you I do know the difference between >blimps and dirigibles. The big problem is the size of the memory and >the time differentiation. Being young and somewhat awed by the whole >thing it makes the occassion memorable but not the date. The Zepps were impressive, no doubt. After a Zeppelin raid on London in 1916, George Bernard Shaw wrote, "the sound of the Zepp's engines was so fine, and its voyage through the stars so enchanting, that I positively caught myself hoping next night that there would be another raid." Now THAT's impressive! Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org " There's worser things than marchin' from Umballa to Cawnpore" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 00:27:45 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: Rigging wire sizes Message-ID: <5d5077c7.34f8f1d6@aol.com> In a message dated 98-03-01 00:13:40 EST, you write: << On all quality fishing line brands, that information is listed on the label. The test number of fishing line will vary with the material used and it's type. For instance, the Maxima brand tapered fly-fishing leader line I bought by mistake is 6X, (.005 inch tippet end diameter) and rated at 3 lb test. The Dai-Riki uniform line 6X, (.005 inch diameter- 1/48 scale) is rated at 3.5 lb test. The Dai-Riki uniform line 3X, (.008 inch diameter- 1/32 scale) is rated at 8.25 lb test. Fernando Lamas >> Thanks.I've been using 6, 8, and 10 lb stuff for years, the various wieghts used depending on scale and function.Unfortunately, the labels were lost years ago! I'm not a fisherman- so this a world I'm not terribly familiar with. (dynamiting the river seems so much more efficient, plus I might have to{ uhhgg..}....eat a fish! No offense ment to those practitioners of a fine old tradition! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 00:43:07 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Use for solvent cements Message-ID: <19980301.004321.14046.1.perrysm@juno.com> After forswearing solvent cements I wondered what to do with my supply. Tenax 7R is outstanding for cleaning plastic out of metal files. Just dip it in for 30 sec or so and the plastic is dissolved right out of the teeth of the file. Magic. Probably work well with dremmel tool bits also. FWIW Steve Perry No war is "Great", but we all know which one had the Great airplanes! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 1998 01:05:34 EDT From: Redwilde@bdsbbs.com (Redwilde) To: wwi Subject: Aerorome Modeller Message-ID: <88873239582082@bdsbbs.com> I have one issue 3/3 which I found in a hobby shop in 1977. My copy is well worn at this point, having painted manyof the planes in it over the years. Having gotten so much use out of it, I have frequently lamented not having gone out of my way to track down more of them at the time. Circus Colors by Greg VanWyngarden is the title of one of the columns/articles in this issue, this particular installment covering Jastas 26 & 43. Brian RW ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 01:18:21 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: Use for solvent cements Message-ID: In a message dated 98-03-01 00:48:44 EST, you write: << After forswearing solvent cements I wondered what to do with my supply. Tenax 7R is outstanding for cleaning plastic out of metal files. Just dip it in for 30 sec or so and the plastic is dissolved right out of the teeth of the file. Magic. Probably work well with dremmel tool bits also. >> MY GOSH! this is one of those "why didn't I think of that" kinda things! I shall try it immediately! Beauty through simplicity! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 10:32:48 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: Seat for R. Godfrey Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980301103248.00724b60@philonline.com.ph> >I cut out the seat, drilled the holes, installed the brass wire frame and >wove 1/2 of it in an hour. That's 14 tiers of sprue, about 10" in a >single piece. Hi Steve, Have you tried using copper wire? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 10:40:17 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: Robert's Handley Page 0/400 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980301104017.00724b60@philonline.com.ph> >Geez, you won't believe how much larger this beast is than a Gotha.I've got an >old Aurora built-up that's positively dwarfed by the 0/400. That's how it would look since the Aurora Gotha is 1/48 and your HP 0/400 is 1/32, right? BTW, How long is the wingspan? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 00:47:54 -0800 (PST) From: lothar@televar.com (mark) To: wwi Subject: Re: Air Enthusiast Message-ID: <199803010847.AAA05846@concord.televar.com> Lee advises: >I will check with my local (San Antonio) hobby shop (Dibbles) and >find out. They save me one every other month and I also forgot they are >being sold here in Bookstop stores and Barnes and Noble. I prefer the >Hobby since Barnes and Nobles have never done much for me while >Dibble's always help or at least try.. Lee Lee- If there's **any** possibility you could pick up an extra copy of #74 for me, I would greatly, greatly appreciate it. Just let me know the damages and I would gladly reimburse for cost, S&H and your time. Please let me know if this is something you could do. BTW, really enjoyed your dirigible story..... Thanks, Mark lothar@televar.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 00:47:56 -0800 (PST) From: lothar@televar.com (mark) To: wwi Subject: Re: Zepp models Message-ID: <199803010847.AAA05851@concord.televar.com> Bill states: >Testors reissued this kit, without the squadron of P-26s in 1976 >with the price jumped up to, I think, $12.95. As a nice touch >and possibly to make up for the missing P-26s, they included >decals for not only the Graf Zeppelin but also for the USS >Los Angeles (ZR 3) - Testors claiming that the Los Angeles was >the same shape as the Graf Zeppelin, only smaller and that the >kit could be built as _either_ a 1/245 Graf Zeppelin _or_ a >1/200 scale USS Los Angeles. > >I'm still kicking myself that I didn't snap up one of the Testors >re-issues when I had the chance but $12.95 _was_ a lot for a >kit in the '70's. I actually got this one on my 15th b-day way back in '77. "Succeeded" in putting it together, although the result looked like crap - vacform is no match for the natural impatience of an adolescent! (well, on second thought, if you looked at it strictly from a side view, at about 20' - 30' distance, it wasn't so bad....;-). Most notable thing I remember was that it prompted me to try an experiment from a chemistry text in making my own homemade helium. That didn't work either. It was such a bad experience that, after this kit, I set aside modelling for the general pursuit of girl chasing and teen age rebellion, and (other than a 1/28 DrI and SPAD XIII in '82 & '83) didn't put styrene to styrene again until late 94. OTOH, in the hands of somebody who actually knew what the hell they were doing, it could probably be worked up into a decent model...... MArk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 11:03:24 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Use for solvent cements Message-ID: <199803011059.KAA19241@beryl.sol.co.uk> > > After forswearing solvent cements I wondered what to do with my supply. > ........................... > Steve Perry Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater! Liquid solvent cements are ideal for many applications and I suggest you should use a variety of cements for different results. I keep a drawer of CA's - thick, medium, thin; Loctite, liquid Slaters, Tennax, Humbrol, Revell; Epoxy, PVA, woodglue, balsa glue, rubber cement etc etc. Each is there because it has proved useful for a particular application. Tennax I find excellent for running along internal plastic strip longerons and other interior components. It is not as strong a solvent as some other liquid glues and won't dissolve the thin plastic strip. It also dries almost instantly, which CA sometimes does not - even thin, if applied too liberally. Definitely use CA for other areas of construction, but don't bin the old faithfuls yet! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:04:19 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Seat for R. Godfrey Message-ID: <19980301.081836.14046.2.perrysm@juno.com> >>I cut out the seat, drilled the holes, installed the brass wire frame >and >>wove 1/2 of it in an hour. That's 14 tiers of sprue, about 10" in a >>single piece. > >Hi Steve, Have you tried using copper wire? I use #28 brass wire for the frame, some finer brass or copper wire might work. As you do the weaving, the sprue sometimes kinks and has to be pulled a bit. Wire may have to be pulled too hard for the delicate brass wire frame to support. I'll have to pick up some likely sizes next trip to the hardware store and try it. sp _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:18:24 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Use for solvent cements Message-ID: <19980301.081836.14046.3.perrysm@juno.com> >Tennax I find excellent for running along internal plastic strip >longerons >and other interior components. It is not as strong a solvent as some >other >liquid glues and won't dissolve the thin plastic strip. It also dries >almost instantly, which CA sometimes does not - even thin, if applied >too >liberally. Quite right. Nothing works quite like it for those interior longerons or stringers, especially the real thin styrene pieces. I also use it for wings that come upper & lower halves. I'm just not using it for seams that don't need to be seen. sp _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 07:20:01 -0600 From: "Charles Duckworth" To: Subject: Re: Fly fishing tippet material for rigging Message-ID: <199803011325.HAA04417@mail.primary.net> Does the .005 > thickness "looks right" on a finished 1/48 model or should a thicker line be used although .005 is "mathematically correct?" I have used the .005 on all my recently completely models over the last 3 years and it looks correct to me - have given it a very thin wash of Floquil's Gunmetal to make it stand out but on my AVRO 1912 biplane I left it in it's natural state and the St. Louis Jasta group thought it looked great. Another strength in using this medium is one can run a small soldering iron about a 1/4 inch (back and forth motion) under the tippet material and it will 'draw up' if you have a line you feel is to loose. BUT I have replaced one or two lines that have snapped/melted through. Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:37:13 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Aerdrome Modeler Message-ID: <19980301.103714.12886.0.mbittner@juno.com> How about if all of us that have Aerodrome Modeler, pull together, and supply the librarian with a photocopy of the issues we have? Then, when someone needs something either from AM, or is working on something AM can provide, then we can ask for them from Riordan? I'm willing to do it. I have Vol 2 No 6, so I will photocopy it and send it to the librarian. Riordan, what's your address? Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:07:34 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Frank Luke's Eagle logo Message-ID: <01BD4513.00F6A060.panz-meador@vsti.com> the poster you refer to (american vs. german-black-eagles) was subtitled "be an american eagle!"; this poster may be reproduced in one of two places: "world war 1" or "airplanes and air battles of world war 1", both by salamander(?) or octopus (both are "coffee table books", so these publishers are the "usual suspects"). if you'd like i'll try to verify, though neither is similar to luke's eagle. phillip -----Original Message----- From: Charles Duckworth [SMTP:cnlduckwor@ninenet.com] Sent: Saturday, February 28, 1998 8:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Frank Luke's Eagle logo Would anyone know the source of the eagle logo used by Lt. Frank Luke's 27th Aero (WWI)? It looks like something that could have been lifted from a recruiting poster. Thanks. Looked through Dover's book on First World War Posters and no eagle but then recalled a poster from the early 1940's of an eagle diving on an unknown enemy with a bunch of P-35's. I seem to remember a U.S. period poster of a bald eagle diving on a German eagle or hawk but can 't place it. Looking in Wings of Honor and America's First Eagles and no leads there either. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:10:47 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: A call out to Toko Message-ID: <01BD4513.73ADB120.panz-meador@vsti.com> thanks, matt. i think your idean sounds like a good one. though i'll be on travel for a portion of the upcoming week, i'll see if the translation can be done this week. phillip -----Original Message----- From: mbittner@juno.com [SMTP:mbittner@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, February 28, 1998 1:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: A call out to Toko On Fri, 27 Feb 1998 13:09:28 -0500 "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" writes: >here is a draft cut at a letter to TOKO (sorry, the minicraft letter from >the modeling site is apparently unavailable). the intent is to keep it >short and sweet while using fairly standard/simple english. space has been >left at the bottom to list those kits of personal interest to us. let me >know what you think. Thanks, Phillip. That's a great letter! So, who's with me on this? Do we still want to translate? Here's an idea. Everybody send their personal letter in English, and then we'll draft one collectively from the list and have it translated. Thoughts? Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:53:06 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Munsell Color Program Message-ID: <01BD4519.5D213C00.panz-meador@vsti.com> Ivan: i've run the Munsell color conversion program on your lozenge camo candidates with mixed results. here's what i've gotten: ---- your 4 color pattern ----upper Munsell name Methuen C M Y K R G B H(ue) V(alue) C(hroma) ============ ====== ============ ========== ===================== A-deep dull blue 21D4 60 30 0 20 51 127 204 4.41PB 4.7 11.18 B-deep turquoise 24E7 100 30 40 40 (note 1) C-olive brown 5D4 45 40 80 0 140 153 51 3.74GY 5.52 8.10 D-pea green 29D5 50 10 60 10 102 204 76 9.45GY 7.03 13.34 - lower A-dull china blue 23D4 70 30 20 0 77 178 204 2.80B 6.37 7.06 B-dull grey green 26D4 60 0 50 30 25 178 51 0.07G 5.95 13.83 C-yellow ochre 4C7 0 20 100 20 (note 1) D-greyish ruby 11B5 0 60 20 0 255 102 204 2.81RP 6.22 17.08 NOTE1: (C,M,Y,K) entry results in "invalid argument" from program ------ your 5 color patter all color combinations resulted in "invalid argument" and program termination. i believe this occurred because of the mathematical relationships between RGB, CMY, and CMYK and CIE space equivalents, and/or the program's look-up table bounds were exceeded. phillip -----Original Message----- From: silverinfo@czechia.com [SMTP:silverinfo@czechia.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 1998 6:20 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Munsell Color Program On Sun, 22 Feb 1998 18:04:27 -0500 Bob Pearson wrote: >This points out >one of the problems of trying to do colours on different computer systems. >On mine these colours look the same as when I scanned them, however >depending on how your screen is set up, colours will change. And has been >mentioned before, if using an internet browser to view the jpg, it may >change the colours further to fit it's parameters. I know when I checked >Ivan's lozenge page, his colours bore no resemblance to those in my Metheun >or that I converted to CMYK. Unwillingly making the things more complicated I don't think this is the mistake of graphics software->web browser conversion. The colour shades are equally wrong on my screen when using the browser (Netscape Navigator 3.0) as when using the original soft the shades were created with (Corel Draw 3). Furthermore, logically, the mistake is not in the video system of my PC, as in this case everybody should see the colours right except me. So I suspect Corel to create other colour shades from CMYK codes then your graphic software? Ivan Subrt "The air is our sea." Czech proverb ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 914 *********************