WWI Digest 903 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Turnbuckle colours by KarrArt@aol.com 2) Re: Le Prieur by mbittner@juno.com 3) Re: Turnbuckle colours by mbittner@juno.com 4) Re: New member and Udet a/c questions by Dave Watts 5) Re: Caudron G.3 by Joey Valenciano 6) Re: Caudron G.3 by Joey Valenciano 7) Re: Lacing by Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <100234.3216@compuserve.com> 8) Re: Caudron G.3 by REwing@aol.com 9) Re: Caudron G.3 by KarrArt@aol.com 10) Re: Lacing by KarrArt@aol.com 11) Re: New member and Udet a/c questions by Joey Valenciano 12) Re: Lacing by Joey Valenciano 13) Re: Lacing by Ernest Thomas 14) Re: Lacing by Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton 15) Re: New member and Udet a/c questions by "Steve Belanger" 16) Re: New member and Udet a/c questions by Joey Valenciano 17) Re: Caudron G.3 by "Sandy Adam" 18) Re: German Purple (was RE: WWI wins big. etc) by "Sandy Adam" 19) Re: Lacing by "Sandy Adam" 20) Belgian Decals by perrysm@juno.com 21) Re: German Purple (was RE: WWI wins big. etc) by Ernest Thomas 22) New kits by Carlos Valdes 23) Re: New member and Udet a/c questions by Carlos Valdes 24) AeroMaster Decals by The Shannons 25) Fokker D.VIII by Pedro Nuno Soares 26) Re: New member and Udet a/c questions by "Steve Belanger" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 21:15:32 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Turnbuckle colours Message-ID: <858aeb2d.34ef8a46@aol.com> In a message dated 98-02-21 18:49:33 EST, you write: << I've had an off list enquiry from a guy who needs to know whether Nieuport Ni-28 turnbuckles were left natural metal (brass?), painted black (japanned?) or some other colour as a matter of course. I'll trawl through my refs. but this sounds like a question for the nieuport fan of all fans. Matt? Robert? >> Squinting through a mess of Nieuport photos when doing the diorama, I came to the conclusion that some were black and some were left natural.It appeared to me that they might have left the factory naked, but a lot of the in-the-field pics showed definite evidence of paint.This makes me wonder if the color could even have been touch up in the local camo color. I made my rigging fittings brass with a dirty earth and black wash- yes- I hedged! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 20:29:45 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Le Prieur Message-ID: <19980221.204548.6526.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 14:23:41 -0500 KarrArt@aol.com writes: >Hey Matt- have you checked Windsock V10 #3? June 94? There's an article by >Harry Woodman about these rockets, although no good up-the-rear shots, but >some intersting stuff nonethless Thanks, but I already have that article open - it has been while constructing the rockets. Not a fun task, let me tell you. :-) Plus, there were two articles in OtF: one on Le Prieur himself and his rocket, and one a small Plumage article by Jon Guttman on three Le Prieur carrying aircraft. Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 20:28:18 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Turnbuckle colours Message-ID: <19980221.204548.6526.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 18:52:13 -0500 Shane Weier writes: >I've had an off list enquiry from a guy who needs to know whether >Nieuport Ni-28 turnbuckles were left natural metal (brass?), painted >black (japanned?) or some other colour as a matter of course. > >I'll trawl through my refs. but this sounds like a question for the >nieuport fan of all fans. Matt? Robert? As Alberto said. The USAF Museum's Nie.28 is left natural brass. Granted, these are both restored machines, so it might have been different operationally. In the Datafile, there are pictures of a Swiss machine post-war that has been stripped, and it too appears to have natural turnbuckles. The other photo's in the Datafile I really can't tell. I would say go with what you want, and ask the colour police to prove it to you. :-) Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 21:53:21 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: wwi Subject: Re: New member and Udet a/c questions Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980221215321.007e0900@wingate> Joey V. wrote; >In the meantime, I wrote that list of Udet a/c for everyone's info, and >also in the hope that anyone can add more details, coming up with a missing >serial#, aerodrome location, or colour scheme would be nice. > Hi Joey, As a new member myself, I appreciated the listing very much, and as well would like to know more about Udet's first D.VII. If I recall correctly, this is the one he had to parachute from, and it was an early Fokker production machine, probably being in the 227-526/18 range. I remember seeing an article by Dan Abbott on Udet's D.VII's in WWI Aero issue Nr.119. Dave Watts ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 09:58:28 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: Caudron G.3 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980222095828.0070ae10@philonline.com.ph> >>Huh? brass and cloth? In 1/48 scale? > >Yep. The main parts are a brass build up - kind of like the Eduard >"strip downs" - but the brass appears to be more than just photoetched. >I'm looking at the photo's of the 4 reviewed in Vol 14 No 1. I was >mistaken initially; some parts are either vac, resin, rubber, What do you guys think about adding rubber to your models, wouldn't it one day crack or turn to powder? >However, be aware of the >cost: in Windsock they go from 37 British pounds upto 55 pounds. Yikes! > The Caudron G.3 looks great, though. Cripes! One of their next >releases is a Caproni Ca3! I can't even fathom that... Yeah, 155 pounds maybe? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:04:13 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: Caudron G.3 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980222100413.0070ae10@philonline.com.ph> >AJP Maquettes is a company that has been coming out with etched brass kits of >early aircraft. You fold them up into the basic shapes and cover the >appropriate parts in some kind of paper that is supplied with the kit. The >scale is 1/48th. Paper..... How would you guys keep paper (as in a linen covering application) from getting brittle on the model? >Despite being made of etched brass, they look like they can be built into a >reasonable models. There'd be a lot more things to keep in alignment though. But if I had one I'd try it out. Much easier than making an F16 out of sheet metal. Some of the kits they have and cost in pounds are: >A.V.Roe Triplane (1909) 36.40 >1910 AVRO Triplane 40.75 Why the price difference here? How different in appearance are these planes? >1913 X12 Hydroaeroplane 54.65 >1913 Caudron G.3 41.85 >Caudron G.4 69.50 Yikes!!!!!! They have a Caudron G.4!!!!! >I think there are others, but not sure right off. The kits can be bought >through Aeroclub Models. Aeroclub has no email as of yet, right? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 16:11:46 -0800 From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton <100234.3216@compuserve.com> To: wwi Subject: Re: Lacing Message-ID: <34F0BEC2.BE2@connectorsystems.co.nz> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: BTW, > what does your hard way consist of? > Robert Miniature brass eyelets and fly tying thread.....;-) But seriously folks, very short pieces of stretched sprue with the ends rounded with a glass fibre pen when they are in place. Getting those little sods to line up is a definite challenge. Thanks to all for the advice. Aidrian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 22:47:45 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Caudron G.3 Message-ID: << >A.V.Roe Triplane (1909) 36.40 >1910 AVRO Triplane 40.75 Why the price difference here? How different in appearance are these planes? >> The 1909 aircraft has triplane wings and tail suurfaces. It looks smaller than the 1910 version. The 1910 plane definitely has longer wingspan and possibly longer fuselage. The photos make these look like interesting models, but I don't know if I could afford them. -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 22:58:49 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Caudron G.3 Message-ID: <98cd3849.34efa27b@aol.com> In a message dated 98-02-21 22:09:52 EST, you write: << Paper..... How would you guys keep paper (as in a linen covering application) from getting brittle on the model? >> Coat it with slightly diluted acrylic medium . This stuff does wonders when applied over dope and tissue and it does the same for every other kind of paper I've ever fiddled with- it really does help kept Mr. Brittle away Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 22:58:50 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Lacing Message-ID: <1a6936c8.34efa27f@aol.com> In a message dated 98-02-21 22:30:18 EST, you write: << BTW, > what does your hard way consist of? > Robert Miniature brass eyelets and fly tying thread.....;-) But seriously folks, very short pieces of stretched sprue with the ends rounded with a glass fibre pen when they are in place. Getting those little sods to line up is a definite challenge. Thanks to all for the advice. Aidrian >> You, sir, are insane! I amy have to try that method some day. I paint mine with thickened white glue plus a little color added so I can see where I've been. Each "thread' gets 2 or 3 strokes.With a little practice I've managed to get evenly spaced and extremely thin strokes that are just slightly raised. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 11:40:46 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: New member and Udet a/c questions Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980222114046.0070ee28@philonline.com.ph> >Hi Joey, > As a new member myself, I appreciated the listing very much, and as well >would like to know more about Udet's first D.VII. > If I recall correctly, this is the one he had to parachute from, and it >was an early Fokker production machine, probably being in the 227-526/18 >range. If you are referring to the candy striper (he did jump from that plane), we may ellicit a few groans from the list. The theories basically centered on whether it was peppermint (red/wht) or licorice (blk/wht). I could send you all relevant list postings (off list of course!) if you like, and you could tell me what you think was the right scheme. But there is a photo of a Udet D.VII that is probably earlier than this scheme. It's in the Flying Circus Datafile Special. It's all lozenge with blk/wht longerons and a wht chevron on the horiz tail. Blk cowl, wht "LO!" on fuselage. It's an OAW machine w/ serial # 21--/18 ("--" digits unknown). ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 12:29:21 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: Lacing Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980222122921.0070ee28@philonline.com.ph> >I had some lacing on an old Tom's model Works set but I never liked the way it >looked- it still seemed too big and clunky, plus I found it difficult to work >with.Unless there's been some improvement or refining, do it the hard way.BTW, >what does your hard way consist of? >Robert I pencil in the stitches and apply a matt coat. Friends have to really look hard and feel, before they can see that it's just all pencil marks. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 23:34:42 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: Lacing Message-ID: <34EFB8F2.2D59@bellsouth.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 98-02-21 22:30:18 EST, you write: > > << BTW, > > what does your hard way consist of? > > Robert > > Miniature brass eyelets and fly tying thread.....;-) > > But seriously folks, very short pieces of stretched sprue with the ends > rounded with a glass fibre pen when they are in place. Getting those > little sods to line up is a definite challenge. > > Thanks to all for the advice. > > Aidrian >> > You, sir, are insane! I amy have to try that method some day. I paint mine > with thickened white glue plus a little color added so I can see where I've > been. Each "thread' gets 2 or 3 strokes.With a little practice I've managed to > get evenly spaced and extremely thin strokes that are just slightly raised. > Robert I stitched a thin sheet of styrene and attatched it to the bottom of my E-III. Ernest ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 18:30:04 -0800 From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton To: wwi Subject: Re: Lacing Message-ID: <34F0DF2C.5B30@connectorsystems.co.nz> > > Aidrian >> > You, sir, are insane! I amy have to try that method some day. I paint mine > with thickened white glue plus a little color added so I can see where I've > been. Each "thread' gets 2 or 3 strokes.With a little practice I've managed to > get evenly spaced and extremely thin strokes that are just slightly raised. > Robert Actually it's not quite as dire a job as it sounds. The laces can be cut to any old length as long as none of them are too short if you get my drift. Glue 'em on and let the glue set *really* well. Draw two parallel lines on the model joining the centres of the eyelets and scrape away the excess bits outside the lines with a curved blade in the knife. Don't get too fussy about the finish at this stage, as long as you don't gouge away the structure underneath, since scrubbing the surface around the lacing with the glass fibre pen round off the ends off the individual lenghts of "lacing", so it seems to go through a hole. At the same time this will give the surrounding area a light sanding and clean up the areas where you have scraped. Still think there's gotta be a better way though.... Aidrian nb - still the blasted F2A and an Aeroclube Grebe for light relief nu - Fairey IIID "Santa Cruz" - nl - Genesis - "Selling England By the Pound" - nr - George MacDonald Fraser -Flashman and the Mountain of Light ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 02:48:06 -0500 From: "Steve Belanger" To: Subject: Re: New member and Udet a/c questions Message-ID: <199802220750.CAA01795@smtp.db.erau.edu> First of all, thanks to everyone who responded to my Udet questions, the responses were more than I had even anticipated! But, still on the subject... Does anyone have a 3-view drawing (or 2-view) or know which books have photos of Udet's Albatros (specifically the black DVa, but any type/scheme will do)? (The schemes were described in detail but I need some illustrations to model it) I also just read in the Appendix of Udet's autobiography about the Fokker DVIII - "Udet, who flew it, called it the "Parasol" Fokker." Was this a special flight he made with it or did he actually fly with it? And of course, how was this marked? Or is this book erroneous? And another question that has nothing to do with modeling, but just my curiosity...Did he ever marry Lo? She was never mentioned again in his book in the post war chapters. Thanks yet again, Steve Belanger belanges@db.erau.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 19:48:30 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: New member and Udet a/c questions Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980222194830.006d9cd4@philonline.com.ph> Hi Steve, >First of all, thanks to everyone who responded to my Udet questions, the >responses were more than I had even anticipated! Usually the case with the list members, very helpful. >But, still on thesubject... Go ahead... >Does anyone have a 3-view drawing (or 2-view) or know which books have >photos of Udet's Albatros (specifically the black DVa, but any type/scheme >will do)? (The schemes were described in detail but I need some >illustrations to model it) I've drawn a profile and will email it to you off list. All you will be needing then will be to know exactly where the chordwise stripes and blk/wht tail stripes looked, also the shape of the white "U." under the bottom wing. I'll get these bits scanned from DS Abbott's drawing and shoot to you. >I also just read in the Appendix of Udet's autobiography What is the title of the autobiography you read? "Ace of the Iron Cross" and "Ace of the Black Cross" are both translations of his autobio, "Mein Fliegerleben". Was it one of these or another book entirely? >about the Fokker >DVIII - "Udet, who flew it, called it the "Parasol" Fokker." Was this a >special flight he made with it or did he actually fly with it? Say again!?!? >And of >course, how was this marked? Or is this book erroneous? I haven't read anywhere that Udet was assigned a Fokker D.VIII during the war but he and Robert von Greim were able to borrow a D.VII and D.VIII to dogfighting air shows. Greim flew too low and hit some power cables, ended up in a lake. The D.VII sank and the D.VIII was confiscated. The Fokker D.VIII Datafile shows Udet in a Fokker D.VIII (238/18) with an undercarriage fuel tank and no guns installed. The cowl is of a lighter shade than normal (maybe natural metal?). Does anyone out there know if this is the D.VIII he used post war or did he fly it during the war to test out the experimental fuel tank? >And another question that has nothing to do with modeling, but just my >curiosity...Did he ever marry Lo? She was never mentioned again in his book >in the post war chapters. Tune in again next week, for another episode of....... I really don't know. But the U-12 Flamingo Profile (thanks Ira) I have tells of him being stabbed with a nail file by a jealous girlfriend sometime post war. I'll be receiving a book entitled, "Udet/A Man's Life" (by Herlin, Hans) in the end of March, may have more answers for you then. Any of you guys have see or possess this book? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 12:09:35 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Caudron G.3 Message-ID: <199802221216.MAA13221@beryl.sol.co.uk> ........... > If I was into this scale, I would get one. However, be aware of the > cost: in Windsock they go from 37 British pounds upto 55 pounds. Yikes! I assume the strange prices are direct currency exchanges from Francs to Pounds? Or are they any cheaper in France? Michel? (Excuse me - I know you are not French, but may see adverts in French mags locally for these.) Has anybody seen one made, in the flesh, yet? If so do the flat bits look OK? I would like the Caudron twin but am put off by a) the price and b) 2-D wings and things. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 12:01:40 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: German Purple (was RE: WWI wins big. etc) Message-ID: <199802221216.MAA13218@beryl.sol.co.uk> Ernest Many thanks for offering to pick up some Humbrol 133 for me, but to be honest I'd forgotten to look out for it until this thread came up. I haven't really got an early-war Axis subject in mind that would need this as yet (although the Sierra Fokker D.II is cut out...........). I'm lucky that my job takes me all over Scotland and I can search all the out of the way book and model shops so I can probably pick some up for the future. The Eduard Moranes are getting scarce now I think - I managed to packrat away an extra one of each back in November when 4-Plus (main UK importer) had a sale but I think that was the last of them. They may have one or two left - I can give them a phone if you wish. But have you tried Rosemont first? Or Ivan? If you're stuck, let me know. Sandy > I was at the hobby shop today (picking up my Eduard S.S. D-III) and I > noticed we still have 4 or 5 tins of Humbrol #133. > Do you need a few cans? Unfortunately, my family financial plan for 1998 > doesn't allow me to donate a couple of tins of paint(that I would have > to purchase special)even for another WWI modeler. SWMBO just wouldn't > understand. But if you want to re-imburse me for it, I'll gladly pick up > a few tins and mail them to you. Or we could start negotiations for a > swap, if you're interested. I build 1/48 mostley and currently have > extra Eduard Sopwith Triplanes and DML SPAD's. I'm looking for either of > the Eduard Moranes. Let me know if you're interested. > > Ernest ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 12:20:37 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Lacing Message-ID: <199802221216.MAA13228@beryl.sol.co.uk> > You, sir, are insane! I amy have to try that method some day. I paint mine > with thickened white glue plus a little color added so I can see where I've > been. Each "thread' gets 2 or 3 strokes.With a little practice I've managed to > get evenly spaced and extremely thin strokes that are just slightly raised. > Robert Seems too easy. Must give it a try - many thanks Robert for a new tip! I haven't needed to do laces for a while, but I used to do lots before PE etc and my method was to cut strips of thin tinfoil (Alcan cooking foil) on which I had already marked the lacing using a ball-point pen. You then glue this along the seam with the "laces" outermost and run a little PVA along the foil edges to hide the join. Sometimes they would go on first time perfectly, sometimes three or four attempts would have to be removed before satisfaction achieved. The only real drawback is making sure you don't handle and squeeze the "lace" after attachment / painting! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 07:40:01 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Belgian Decals Message-ID: <19980222.074002.6454.0.perrysm@juno.com> Does anyone out there in model land have the Belgian decals that come with the Smer Camel? The ink was just too light and when applied over the dunkelgrun wing... I'm hoping a second decal applied directly over the first will increase the color and hide the overlap between colors. I have the British decals, so if you have the Smer Camel and plan to use the British decals contact me off list at perrysm@juno.com Seeing as I should have known better, those so inclined, feel free to rake me over the coals on the list. I'm swearing off (as well as at) Propagteam decals. Steve Perry _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 11:16:45 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: German Purple (was RE: WWI wins big. etc) Message-ID: <34F05D7D.1BE0@bellsouth.net> Sandy Adam wrote: > > Ernest > Many thanks for offering to pick up some Humbrol 133 for me, but to be > honest I'd forgotten to look out for it until this thread came up. I > haven't really got an early-war Axis subject in mind that would need this > as yet (although the Sierra Fokker D.II is cut out...........). > I'm lucky that my job takes me all over Scotland and I can search all the > out of the way book and model shops so I can probably pick some up for the > future. > > The Eduard Moranes are getting scarce now I think - I managed to packrat > away an extra one of each back in November when 4-Plus (main UK importer) > had a sale but I think that was the last of them. They may have one or two > left - I can give them a phone if you wish. But have you tried Rosemont > first? Or Ivan? If you're stuck, let me know. > Sandy > > > I was at the hobby shop today (picking up my Eduard S.S. D-III) and I > > noticed we still have 4 or 5 tins of Humbrol #133. > > Do you need a few cans? Unfortunately, my family financial plan for 1998 > > doesn't allow me to donate a couple of tins of paint(that I would have > > to purchase special)even for another WWI modeler. SWMBO just wouldn't > > understand. But if you want to re-imburse me for it, I'll gladly pick up > > a few tins and mail them to you. Or we could start negotiations for a > > swap, if you're interested. I build 1/48 mostley and currently have > > extra Eduard Sopwith Triplanes and DML SPAD's. I'm looking for either of > > the Eduard Moranes. Let me know if you're interested. > > > > Ernest Sandy, I could probably go out and buy one. I was hopping to get one in a swap. I've already got an offer of a swap for a Type N for my Sopwith Triplane from someone else on the list. So I'll just go with that. But if you would be interested in swapping one of your L Types for a DML SPAD, we could do that. Just let me know if you're interested. Thanks. Ernest ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 13:50:50 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: New kits Message-ID: <34F0738A.3B80@conted.gatech.edu> FWIW, I found the following information on planned 1998 releases in the latest (April) FSM: COPPER STATE MODELS 1/48, all due out in spring @ $40 each Alb. W.4 Pfalz Dr.I SE-5 H-B W.12 Nieu. 9/10 Pfalz D.IIIa EDUARD 1/72 Fokker D.VIII stripdown, Feb. 1/48 Alb. D.III, Apr. Nieu. 17, Apr. Nieu. 17 super detail, July Hanriot HD.1, July Albatros Dr.I, July (very interesting choice) GLENCOE 1/48 @ $9.98 each except the DH ($14.98) SPAD XIII American aces, Feb. JN-4, Feb. Pfalz D.IIIa, Mar. DH-4, Mar. PEGASUS Alb. D.I/II A-W F.K.8 Macchi M5 BLUE MAX Halb. CL.II SE5a F2B RHVP (from the Czech Rep.) 1/72 resin Oeffag C.II Alb. B.II Voisin X TOM'S MODELWORKS 1/48 resin Alb. C.XII, May Halberstadt D.II/III, July (finally, if from the wrong manufacturer) Toko and Hippo did not appear in the list, but they will be releasing more kits. And there's always the possibility that Shanghai Dragon will re-release more of the DML WWI series. If most of the items above come out, 1998 will be a busy year for Great War a/c modelers. Let's see what the ecals manufacturers come out with. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 13:50:55 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: New member and Udet a/c questions Message-ID: <34EFCAB3.5C3A@conted.gatech.edu> > And another question that has nothing to do with modeling, but just my > curiosity...Did he ever marry Lo? She was never mentioned again in his book > in the post war chapters. Steve, I've seen one photo of Lo: very cute. I believe I read--or heard--somewhere that they did marry, but things did not work out. At any rate, they were not together for long. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 13:07:47 -0600 From: The Shannons To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: AeroMaster Decals Message-ID: <34F07782.BE89EEFC@ix.netcom.com> I just saw on the Rec.Models.Scale a notice that there were several AeroMaster decal sets that are going to be discontiued after current stocks are out. Checking at the AeroMaster Site (http://www.MustangOne.com/aeromaster/index.html) I found that the main ones affected that hit our interests are the sheets of lozenge. According to the site information, the 1/48 5-color upper and lower are to be discontinued, and in 1/72nd both the 5- and 4-color upper and lower are on the ax list. In addition, though I have little use for them, the 1/48th scale wood-grain decals are discontinued. It appears that the markings sheets for the individual types are safe for the nonce. On the hopeful side, one case stood out to me of the Japanese Hinomarus -- the two earlier sheets were being discontinued, but a latter sheet has been issued that supplants them. Maybe -- and I have no special knowledge -- the sheets are being discontinued for revision. -- This has been Mark and/or Mary Shannon at Shingend@ix.netcom.com History manages to get away with cliches no novelist could. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 18:52:54 +0100 From: Pedro Nuno Soares To: "'ww1 modeling list'" Subject: Fokker D.VIII Message-ID: <01BD3FC5.01C5F660@fei1-p4.telepac.pt> Hi guys, First of all Thanks to Robert, Rob, Steve and Shane for your prompt = answers. Never came across aliphatic glue I guess, but at least I now = know what it should be like :-). Still I believe I'll use contrail = struts to replace the PE ones. As a matter of fact I've just finished = cutting a new set of struts and implanting on both ends of each one a = tiny piece of copper wire to assist in locating them and securing them = in place while setting. This proved to be easier than I expected and = even the V struts were pretty easy to make. I'm sure most of you would = know better than I how to do it, still for the benefit of the other less = experience guys, like me, on the list this is how I did it: 1 - draw a V on paper with the correct angle for the struts and extend = both legs of the V so that you get an X.=20 2 - secure 2 lengths of strut stock over the X with tiny pieces of tape. 3 - cut at the precise point where the 2 lengths overlap. This should = leave you with a perfect matching cut, at the correct angle. 4 - apply a drop of CA glue to the matting surfaces of the V and allow = to dry. Cut the legs of the V to the desired length. I'll be doing a fokker E.V from Jasta 6, as the schemes proposed by the = kit decals (apart from the horrible lozenge) look quite nice. Still I = have one doubt for which I would again appreciate your help: The references I have on the EV/DVIII (a couple of articles on some old = Scale models International by Ray Rimmel and with drawings by Ian Stair) = say that the fuselage was entirely covered in Lozenge fabric. Still on = the nice colour profile that came with the kit, the top fuselage forward = of the cockpit is solid dark green. Also, from what I gather by the way = the lozenge decals supplied with the kit are cut, there should be a = solid green panel on the underside of the fuselage, extending from the = front to the place where the rear U/C struts are attached. Can any of = you confirm this or should I go the easy way and cover all the fuselage = in lozenge. The colour profiles on Scale Models don't shed any light on = this question... Eduard also says that the axle wing should be done in lozenge. This = would be possible but from what I've read it would be more common to = have it painted in green too. Anyone out there with a way to check this? = The scheme I'll be making is for Fokker E.V. 152/18, Jasta 6, flown by = Obl. Loewenhardt of Jasta 10. (according to the kit's instructions). Thanks in advance and forgive me for writing so much. Um abraco Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 14:28:04 -0500 From: "Steve Belanger" To: Subject: Re: New member and Udet a/c questions Message-ID: <199802221930.OAA01219@smtp.db.erau.edu> That's what I need, thanks. Looking forward to getting it. > I've drawn a profile and will email it to you off list. Concerning that book, it is "Ace of the Iron Cross." (Pretty tiny, unless I got the edited version (from the library) Half the book is post war.) The entire quote from the appendix about the Fokker DVIII reads: "Single-seater scout (1918). This last in the series of World War I Fokker fighters might have been the best in its line. It came out late in October, barely two weeks before the close of the war. Udet, who flew it, called it the "Parasol" Fokker." Then it lists the specs. The book did mention that stunt act with Greim, so maybe that is what they are referring to with the description. Thanks, Steve Belanger belanges@db.erau.edu ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 903 *********************