WWI Digest 901 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: SE5a engine query by Geoff Smith 2) Re: Priming fabric textures by GRBroman@aol.com 3) Re: Super Glue Seam Filling by Patrick Padovan 4) Re: Super Glue Seam Filling by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 5) Airfix 1:72 Albatros' by perrysm@juno.com (Steven M Perry) 6) Re: Airfix 1:72 Albatros' by "Patrick Gilmore" 7) New member and Udet a/c questions by "Steve Belanger" 8) Re: Roland C.II Walfisch by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 9) Re: Airfix 1:72 Albatros' by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 10) Re: New member and Udet a/c questions by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 11) Re: Bristol F2B Markings by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 12) Re: New member and Udet a/c questions by Carlos Valdes 13) Re: New member and Udet a/c questions by Joey Valenciano 14) Carbonit bomb drawings and dimensions in FMP A-H book by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 15) Re: New member and Udet a/c questions by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 16) Re: New member and Udet a/c questions by "Steve Belanger" 17) Re: New member and Udet a/c questions by Joey Valenciano 18) Re: New member and Udet a/c questions by Joey Valenciano 19) Re: Super Glue Seam Filling by Ernest Thomas 20) Caudron G.3 by REwing@aol.com 21) Re: New member and Udet a/c questions by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 22) Re: Bristol F2B Markings by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 23) Re: New member and Udet a/c questions by Redwilde@bdsbbs.com (Redwilde) 24) Postings confirmation by infosilver@czechia.com 25) Re: Caudron G.3 by Joey Valenciano 26) Re: New member and Udet a/c questions by Joey Valenciano 27) Re: Postings confirmation by Joey Valenciano 28) Re: Bristol F2B Markings by Bob Pearson 29) Re: Bristol F2B Markings by "Sandy Adam" 30) Re: New member and Udet a/c questions by Ernest Thomas ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:40:31 -0500 From: Geoff Smith To: WWI List Subject: Re: SE5a engine query Message-ID: <199802201341_MC2-3412-3FE4@compuserve.com> Sandy quite rightly wrote: >The SE5 File doesn't list a D6444: goes from D6198 to next batch startin= g >D6851. My database has D6444 as a 1F.1 Camel built by Boulton & Paul Ltd. HTH = Regards, Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 14:09:57 EST From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Priming fabric textures Message-ID: In a message dated 98-02-19 21:38:22 EST, you write: << I may just try this. However, when sanding the Nieuport (Glen, notice the spelling :-)) you are able to get the wings extremely, scale thin. Where does one obtain this? >> Well, the Dupont Chromabase is available at Target, hardware stores and stores that cater to the car restoration crowd. BTW, I didn't mispell Nieuport, or filler and spray in the message above. It was a software glitch. No really. :) Glen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 12:51:59 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Super Glue Seam Filling Message-ID: Dear James: I use green label, i.e. slow drying (3-5 minutes) gap-filling Zap-A-Gap. I do not use an accelerater. I use small disposable syringes to apply this to small seams, cracks, etc. However, after a few minutes, the very fine needle of the syringe becomes hopelessly clogged, and I throw it away and use a different one next time. Now, here's the idiosyncrasy: I don't go out and buy boxes of disposable insulin syringes just for this purpose: I happen to have an elderly cat who is diabetic, and requires insulin injections twice daily. We use each syringe once, and then throw it away. So, I just horde some of these used syringes, setting them aside until I need them, use them once again to apply c/a glue, then dispose of them. It keeps both me and the cat healthy and happy! Regards, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, James Gibbons wrote: > > I have a question for the folks out there using super to fill seams... > > I'm currently using Squadron white putty but it sure can be hard to apply > to small seams and I'm interested in switching to CA. > > When using super glue as a filler do you use an accelerator or let it cure > naturally, and what is the best method for applying it to seams? I have > seen "precision" applicator tips for super glue bottles but have avoided > buying any because I assumed they would get blocked very quickly. > > Thanks in advance for any advice, > > James Gibbons > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:12:00 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: Super Glue Seam Filling Message-ID: <199802202113.PAA03488@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> > Dear James: I use green label, i.e. slow drying (3-5 minutes) gap-filling > Zap-A-Gap. I do not use an accelerater. I use small disposable syringes to > apply this to small seams, cracks, etc. However, after a few minutes, the > very fine needle of the syringe becomes hopelessly clogged, and I throw it > away and use a different one next time. Now, here's the idiosyncrasy: I > don't go out and buy boxes of disposable insulin syringes just for this > purpose: I happen to have an elderly cat who is diabetic, and requires > insulin injections twice daily. We use each syringe once, and then throw > it away. So, I just horde some of these used syringes, setting them aside > until I need them, use them once again to apply c/a glue, then dispose of > them. It keeps both me and the cat healthy and happy! > Regards, Patrick > Patrick, just make sure you don't get who-gets-what-hypo confused with the other :-) Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:49:39 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com (Steven M Perry) To: wwi Subject: Airfix 1:72 Albatros' Message-ID: <19980220.155042.19926.1.perrysm@juno.com> I have two Airfix 1:72 Albatros kits. One purchased by my pack-rat stepfather for 29 cents in 1963 and the other a 1990s release ($5) of the same. The machines I wanted to model were a D.III and a D.V. Both off the Americal Albatros decal sheet. As I am exceedingly shy of good references readily to hand, what is a reliable reference that won't cost so much as to attract the other half's attention? And to satisfy my curiosity until I can obtain the above mentioned reference, what are the more notable differences between the Albatros D.III & D.V ? BTW does anyone know where one can obtain a print of the photos mentioned in the documentation accompanying the Americal sheet? Thanks Steve Perry _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:57:37 -0500 From: "Patrick Gilmore" To: Subject: Re: Airfix 1:72 Albatros' Message-ID: <199802202259.RAA04193@sulaco.novagate.net> > I have two Airfix 1:72 Albatros kits. One purchased by my pack-rat > stepfather for 29 cents in 1963 and the other a 1990s release ($5) of the > same. The machines I wanted to model were a D.III and a D.V. Both off > the Americal Albatros decal sheet. > > As I am exceedingly shy of good references readily to hand, what is a > reliable reference that won't cost so much as to attract the other half's > attention? And to satisfy my curiosity until I can obtain the above > mentioned reference, what are the more notable differences between the > Albatros D.III & D.V ? > Well, there are quite a few differences between the Alb. DIII and the DV here are the most major: The fuselage of the DIII was flat sided whilst the DV has rounded sides giving an oval cross-section. The lower wing attachment point was different because of the above fuselage change. The rudder was a different shape - more rounded I am sure there are more, but right off the top of my head that is what comes to mind. The best reference I have for Albatros types is the Albatros Datafile special from Albatros Publishing. It has drawings for the entire series (DI, DII, DIII, DV, DVa) in both 1/72 and 1/48, many photos for each plus some painted profiles. I think I paid about $25.00 for it. You might still be able to get it through Roll Models or Sopwith Hobbies but I am not sure. Patrick Gilmore ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:59:01 -0500 From: "Steve Belanger" To: Subject: New member and Udet a/c questions Message-ID: <199802202301.SAA02969@smtp.db.erau.edu> Hi to everyone, I'm new here on the list. Sorry, if these questions were already discussed, but here they are: What a/c did Udet fly besides the DVII, DrI, and S.Schukert? Did he fly the Albatros (and which type)? If so, how was it marked? Where can I get some illustrations or good photos of it? How about the EIII? (same questions apply) When did he fly the Schukert? Thanks, Steve Belanger belanges@db.erau.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:04:00 -0800 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Roland C.II Walfisch Message-ID: <34EE19F0.69AF@ricochet.net> John Huggins wrote: > > The following was found on Squadron's web page this evening. > > Blue Max from England > 1/48 Scale Aircraft > WW-PG0201 Roland C.II Walfisch $59.98....$49.96 > WWI German two seater, Limited Edition, injection moulded > plastic, white metal parts, markings for Feld Flieger > Abteilung 2b,& Kampfgeschwader1, Staffel 6 Great news, but AFAIC, plastic kits should never cost as much as power tools. Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:22:50 -0800 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Airfix 1:72 Albatros' Message-ID: <34EE1E5A.6C20@ricochet.net> The best reference I have for Albatros types is the Albatros Datafile > special from Albatros Publishing. It has drawings for the entire series (DI, DII, DIII, DV, DVa) in both 1/72 and 1/48, many photos for each plus some painted profiles. I think I paid about $25.00 for it. You might still be able to get it through Roll Models or Sopwith Hobbies but I am not sure. Steve, Don't spend the money just yet; as a non-lurking member of this list you have access to this book, which is one of the titles in the holdings of the list library. You may borrow it for a month or so, a bit longer if needed. No need to worry about postage costs. Please post your mailing address. I would suggest maybe loooking around for an ESCI D.III-pretty common, not really collectable (usually from 4-$5) and closer to what you want. Cheers, Riordan (the list librarian) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:24:54 -0800 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: New member and Udet a/c questions Message-ID: <34EE1ED6.1E9C@ricochet.net> Steve Belanger wrote: > > Hi to everyone, I'm new here on the list. > > Sorry, if these questions were already discussed, but here they are: > What a/c did Udet fly besides the DVII, DrI, and S.Schukert? > Did he fly the Albatros (and which type)? If so, how was it marked? Where > can I get some illustrations or good photos of it? > How about the EIII? (same questions apply) > When did he fly the Schukert? (Grimacing) Here we go again... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:32:36 -0800 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Bristol F2B Markings Message-ID: <34EE20A4.45F1@ricochet.net> James Gibbons wrote: > > Hello all, > > I'm working on an Airfix F2b and my color references are lacking in a > couple of areas. I was wondering if anyone knew whether the underside of the fuselage of F2b's was CDL or PC-10. AFAIK, the fuselages of most WWI Brit aircraft were completely covered with PC-10,12, or NIVO. Only the undersurfaces of the wings and tail were left CDL. As far as squadron markings go, I'll defer to other list members with greater knowlege/better libraries/blarney of greater eloquence than I. Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:21:41 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: New member and Udet a/c questions Message-ID: <34E98EE5.266A@conted.gatech.edu> Steve, Udet did fly an E.III; the Eduard 1/48 kit has decals for his markings. He also flew Albatros fighters. The one I'm familiar with is a D.Va from his time as CO of Jasta 37 in late 1917: 5-color lozenge wings with a large white "U." on the underside of the bottom left wing and two parallel chordwise white stripes on the top wing, one each to the left and right of the centersection halfway between the cutout and the ailerons; all-black fuselage with a white, forward-pointing chevron on either side of the nose and "LO" on the side just ahead of the cross; and a white-and-black striped (at a roughly 45 degree angle) tailplane with leader's streamers attached to the elevator. A very attractive machine. HTH. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 09:30:00 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: New member and Udet a/c questions Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980221093000.0070123c@philonline.com.ph> Hi Steve, and welcome to the list. >What a/c did Udet fly besides the DVII, DrI, and S.Schukert? >Did he fly the Albatros (and which type)? If so, how was it marked? Where >can I get some illustrations or good photos of it? >How about the EIII? (same questions apply) Aviatik B (Serial unknown, Fl Abt 206, Heiligkeruz, markings unk., Sept. 191?) Fokker E.III (105/15, KEK Habsheim, Std. finish w/ red/wht/blk bands on fuselage, March, 1916) Pfalz E.IV (Serial unknown, KEK Habsheim, most probably Std finish) Fok D.III (364/16, Jasta 16, Habsheim, metal panels, grn/brn camo, "tin oberver" behind pilot. Alb D.III (1941/16, Jasta 15, Habsheim, drkbrn fuselage, grey panels, 3col camo top surfaces, blu under, blk rudder) (2132/16, Jasta 37, Moncheaux, Std. fuselage, w/ wht outlined blk chevrons, 3col camo tops, blu under, horiz tail in blk/wht diag. stripes, blk w/ wht stripe on wheel, brn rudder) Alb DVa (serial unk., Jasta 37, Wynghene, blk fuse w/ wht chevron & "LO", loz wings w/ 2 chordwise stripes on top wing, wht "U." on bottom of lower wing, blk/wht diag stripes on horiz tail) (6560/16, Jasta 37, Wynghene, sil fuse w/ blk "LO", blk spinner & rudder wings & horiz tail as above DVa) Dr.I (1516/17, Jasta 4, , red "LO" on fuselage, blk/wht diag stripes on top wing, fuselage & horiz tail, ex-Kirchstein machine). Fok D.VII ( (serial unk., Jasta 4, Beugneux, exact scheme unknown, usually interpreted as all red w/ wht diag stripes on top wing, loz lower wing, wht "LO!" on fuselage, chevron & "du doch nicht!" on horiz tail) (2076/18, Jasta 4, Monthussart, red fuselage and tail, wht "LO!" on fuselage, loz wings, wht fin) (F4253/18, Jasta 4, Monthussart, as 2076/18 but w/ fin partially covered w/ red) SSW D3 (serial unk., Jasta 4, Metz, all red fuselage & fixed horiz & vert tail, wht rudder & "LO!" on fuselage, loz wings and stabilizer, alum lower engine cowl. Spad 7 (Jasta 4, all white w/ blk cockerel (Spa.62) on fuselage sides, "Gute Leute" on top of upper wing) **************** Post war: Fok D.VIII (238/18, Std. finish but the cowl seems to be in a lighter colour, alum maybe, fuel tank between wheels) Curtiss Hawk II (D-3165/D-IRIS and D-IRIQ or T, overall alum w/ variance in markings) BFW M-23b 2 place open low wing w/ floats (serial & markings unk.) Klemm L 25 w/ floats (serial & markings unk.) De Havilland D.H. 60 Moth (D-1581, ex G-EBOU, markings unk.) Udet U-12 Spezial Flamingo (D-822, seen in at least 3 schemes, basically, all red w/ 3 silver bands on struts) Focke Wulf Fw 56 Stosser (only test flown by Udet, used to demo dive bombing) Heinkel He 100 (only test flown by Udet) >When did he fly the Schukert? I don't think he used it in combat, I think he was the only one in the Jasta to wangle one. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:42:01 -0800 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Carbonit bomb drawings and dimensions in FMP A-H book Message-ID: <34EE30E9.3C99@ricochet.net> There're drawings and dimensions of 20, 10 & 4.5kg Carbonit bombs in appendix 10 of the A-H book. FWIW, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 18:10:38 -0800 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: New member and Udet a/c questions Message-ID: <34EE379E.1C27@ricochet.net> Joey, Thanks for answering Steve's question & sorry for possibly berating your obviously well-developed obsession (obsessions are not necessarily bad things). Sincerely, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:26:23 -0500 From: "Steve Belanger" To: Subject: Re: New member and Udet a/c questions Message-ID: <199802210228.VAA21693@smtp.db.erau.edu> Joey, thanks for that extensive list, more than I even hoped for! But...a few more "little" questions: I noticed the nice Dr.I model by Steve Hustad at the web page with red and white stripes similar to Udet's DVII, is this another version than the ex-Kirchstein one you mentioned? Where did you get all that info?! Any photos/illustrations of any of them (esp. the Albatros)? Thanks again, Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 10:32:01 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: New member and Udet a/c questions Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980221103201.00702450@philonline.com.ph> >Thanks for answering Steve's question & sorry for possibly berating your >obviously well-developed obsession (obsessions are not necessarily bad >things). Oooooh, touchy, touchy. Just when was it that you were berator and I was beratee? I did have the same reaction (here we go again!) as you when I read the inquiry. I personally would like to toss the candy striper question about again, but now is not the right time to open this Pandora's box. Maybe later on, with more new faces on the list who have not yet witness bore witness to this WWI list phenomenon. But, more importantly, maybe later on when the Ferko collection is available for all to peruse. In the meantime, I wrote that list of Udet a/c for everyone's info, and also in the hope that anyone can add more details, coming up with a missing serial#, aerodrome location, or colour scheme would be nice. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 10:51:25 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: New member and Udet a/c questions Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980221105125.00702fb4@philonline.com.ph> >Joey, thanks for that extensive list, more than I even hoped for! You're welcome. >But...a few more "little" questions: >I noticed the nice Dr.I model by Steve Hustad at the web page with red and >white stripes similar to Udet's DVII, is this another version than the >ex-Kirchstein one you mentioned? An erroneous interpretation of the scheme even another mistaken scheme was the stripes to be turquoise and red. >Where did you get all that info?! Any photos/illustrations of any of them >(esp. the Albatros)? The Albatri, from Dan San Abbott. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:43:08 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: Super Glue Seam Filling Message-ID: <34EE4D4C.D70@bellsouth.net> Paul Schwartzkopf wrote: > > > Dear James: I use green label, i.e. slow drying (3-5 minutes) gap-filling > > Zap-A-Gap. I do not use an accelerater. I use small disposable syringes to > > apply this to small seams, cracks, etc. However, after a few minutes, the > > very fine needle of the syringe becomes hopelessly clogged, and I throw it > > away and use a different one next time. Now, here's the idiosyncrasy: I > > don't go out and buy boxes of disposable insulin syringes just for this > > purpose: I happen to have an elderly cat who is diabetic, and requires > > insulin injections twice daily. We use each syringe once, and then throw > > it away. So, I just horde some of these used syringes, setting them aside > > until I need them, use them once again to apply c/a glue, then dispose of > > them. It keeps both me and the cat healthy and happy! > > Regards, Patrick > > > Patrick, just make sure you don't get who-gets-what-hypo confused > with the other :-) > > Paul A. Schwartzkopf That could lead to one stiff cat. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 00:32:57 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Caudron G.3 Message-ID: <48dfaad6.34ee670b@aol.com> To all of you who responded to my request for information, a great big THANK- YOU. Mike, I got your pictures today and they are ones I haven't seen before. Thanks. Drove my wife nuts trying to figure out why I would be getting mail from a law office in PA. I''ve decided it is fate that I do the G.3 next. I just got my Windsock 14/1 this week and on page 27 there is the AJP 1/48th model. Then on page 42, there is another photo of a rather cramped cockpit G.3 (photo B). Finally, in photo D, in the background is a G.3 staring right back at me. This is just too much to be a coincidence, wouldn't you say? I start tomorrow!!!! Thanks again, -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 22:38:07 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: New member and Udet a/c questions Message-ID: <199802210638.AA16361@ednet1.orednet.org> Steve Belanger writes: > >Hi to everyone, I'm new here on the list. > >Sorry, if these questions were already discussed, but here they are: >What a/c did Udet fly besides the DVII, DrI, and S.Schukert? >Did he fly the Albatros (and which type)? If so, how was it marked? Where >can I get some illustrations or good photos of it? >How about the EIII? (same questions apply) While with Jasta 37, Udet flew an Albatros D.V with a white chevron on the nose and the "LO" marked on the fuselage in white forward of the cross insignia. The aircraft otherwise carried standard Jasta 37 markings - black fuselage and wheel covers with a black and white striped tailplane. Considering the length of time Udet was with Jasta 37, there must have been other Albatros D.IIIs and D.Vs used by him but the above aircraft was the only one I could find a quick reference to. Prior to J 37, while with Jasta 15, Udet flew Fokker D.III 364/16 but I've no information on the markings. And, prior to Jasta 15, while with FA(A) 206 and FA 68, he would presumably have been flying "C" types of some sort. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "If you can see the tracers, the little piss-ants have missed you." Chief Warrant Officer Emet "Stoney" Parker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 22:43:14 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Bristol F2B Markings Message-ID: <199802210643.AA18056@ednet1.orednet.org> James Gibbons writes: > >Hello all, > >I'm working on an Airfix F2b and my color references are lacking in a >couple of areas. I was wondering if anyone knew whether the underside of >the fuselage of F2b's was CDL or PC-10. Both, I think, but the PC-10 underside was more common, it seems. >I can't tell from the photographs >I have. Also, when you see a band-like Squadron marking (for example the >white fuselage rings for 139 squadron), did those rings continue onto the >bottom of the aircraft fuselage or were they only on the tops and sides? The 139 sqdn "stripes" encircled the fuselage. Don't know if that was true for all squadron markings of this type. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "If you can see the tracers, the little piss-ants have missed you." Chief Warrant Officer Emet "Stoney" Parker ------------------------------ Date: 21 Feb 1998 00:10:00 EDT From: Redwilde@bdsbbs.com (Redwilde) To: wwi Subject: Re: New member and Udet a/c questions Message-ID: <88804869337038@bdsbbs.com> Carlos wrote: >Udet did fly an E.III; the Eduard 1/48 kit has decals for his markings. Is it possible to give a written description of these markings? Brian RW ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 98 10:30:58 -01 From: infosilver@czechia.com To: wwi Subject: Postings confirmation Message-ID: On Feb 15, 1998 I posted several remarks concerning: - UTD WWI Special Collections - Munsell Colour System - Toko Nie.11 kit + sent a personal email Patrick Padovan on British WWI colours Just a quick question - did these posting come through to their recipients? Regards Ivan Subrt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 17:44:16 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: Caudron G.3 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980221174416.006d6634@philonline.com.ph> >I just got my Windsock 14/1 >this week and on page 27 there is the AJP 1/48th model. Who is AJP? How much is that model? Is it resin or vac? Any other models they sell? Tempting catch, but I prefer the G.4! You guys see the profile in the FMP Frenchie? One cowl red, t'other white. These guys sure knew how to make their planes pretty pretty. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 17:39:36 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: New member and Udet a/c questions Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980221173936.006d6634@philonline.com.ph> >Carlos wrote: >>Udet did fly an E.III; the Eduard 1/48 kit has decals for his markings. > >Is it possible to give a written description of these markings? (I sent this to Brian direct w/ a .jpg profile by Bob. This "list" version does not carry the image) Hi Brian, take a look at the attached .jpg file. It's a profile by Bob Pearson. The profile is accurate except that the cowl cheeks of Udet's plane were not triangular as drawn on the profile, but were of the more squarish type. The MG had a narrow rectangular gun sight, not a round one. ____________________________ | | | | | | |------------|---------------| <- Something like this. | | | |____________|_______________| The white banded area of the upper and lower fuselage also had iron crosses on them. The only picture of this plane shows a hint of the cross on the top white banded area, the cross on the underside's white banded area is assumed. The photo does not show the tail area. Some (only a few?) of the Eindekkers in this unit had (a) black rudder(s). Udet's aircraft could be so marked. But I did my model's rudder in standard finish. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 17:59:51 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: Postings confirmation Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980221175951.0070a23c@philonline.com.ph> At 04:40 AM 2/21/98 -0500, you wrote: >On Feb 15, 1998 I posted several remarks concerning: >- UTD WWI Special Collections >- Munsell Colour System >- Toko Nie.11 kit >+ sent a personal email Patrick Padovan on British WWI colours > >Just a quick question - did these posting come through to their recipients? > >Regards >Ivan Subrt Ivan, I think I did get all 3 list messages. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 02:40:03 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Bristol F2B Markings Message-ID: <10400346416770@KAIEN.COM> Bill, I have some photos of No.139's Bristols, but in none does it show the bottom of the fuselage to see if the stripes encircle the fuselage, so on what do you base this comment? The crash photo of Barker's Snipe shows the stripes to not be carried over to the bottom. Granted he was no longer with 139 at the time, but . . . . regards, Bob Pearson ---------- > From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) > > The 139 sqdn "stripes" encircled the fuselage. Don't know if that > was true for all squadron markings of this type. > > > Cheers and all, > > > -- > Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org > > "If you can see the tracers, the little piss-ants have missed you." > Chief Warrant Officer Emet "Stoney" Parker ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 10:16:20 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Bristol F2B Markings Message-ID: <199802211047.KAA20685@beryl.sol.co.uk> > James Gibbons wrote: ...................... > I was wondering if anyone knew whether the underside of the fuselage of F2b's was CDL or PC-10. It could really be either, I suppose depending on contractor. I always think RFC/RAF planes look more "right" with PC-10 under fuselage but many were CDL. Isn't it strange that there seem to be relatively few pics of Brisfits undersurfaces, considering how many were built. One of the few that comes readily to mind is the one of the Isle of Grain parachute testing machine with bins under starboard wing and fuselage for the 'chutes. I haven't got it in front of me but remember it being distinctly light-coloured. HTH Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 05:04:51 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: New member and Udet a/c questions Message-ID: <34EEB4D3.6D42@bellsouth.net> Redwilde wrote: > > Carlos wrote: > >Udet did fly an E.III; the Eduard 1/48 kit has decals for his markings. > > Is it possible to give a written description of these markings? > > Brian RW Brian, Not only is it possible to give descriptions, I can probably send you my un-used Eduard decals if you need them. I think I have them. But I'll have to check in the morning? after the Irish whiskey has worn off. Happy Mardi Gras!!! Ernest ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 901 *********************