WWI Digest 894 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: SMER kits, Pfalz non-silver finish by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 2) Re: SMER kits, Pfalz non-silver finish by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 3) More Post Cards by Carlos Valdes 4) Re: Fok.D.7 interior by Dave Watts 5) Fokker D.VII colors by Dave Watts 6) Re: comparing the journals/mag by Joey Valenciano 7) Re: SMER kits, Pfalz non-silver finish by KarrArt@aol.com 8) Re: New guy: interior colours by Dave Watts 9) Re: Fokker D.VII colors by Bob Pearson 10) Re: comparing the journals/mag by Bob Pearson 11) Re: SMER kits, Pfalz non-silver finish by "Sandy Adam" 12) WWI Caisson Info Wanted by "Leonard Endy" 13) Re: WWI Caisson Info Wanted by Suvoroff@aol.com 14) 144 WWI by aew (Allan Wright) 15) AEG D.I by Graham Nash 16) Mamoli by "Leonard Endy" 17) RE: Caudron G.3 by fedders 18) Re: WWI Caisson Info Wanted by GRBroman@aol.com 19) Harleyford Fighter Book by Graham Nash 20) Re: "Coffee Table" Caudron G.3 by DavidL1217@aol.com 21) Re: comparing the journals/mag by Joey Valenciano 22) Re: SMER kits, Pfalz non-silver finish by Joey Valenciano 23) mamoli by Joey Valenciano 24) Re: Harleyford Fighter Book by Joey Valenciano 25) Re: SMER kits, Pfalz non-silver finish by "Sandy Adam" 26) Re: AEG D.I by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 27) Re: Harleyford Fighter Book by aew (Allan Wright) 28) Re: WWI Caisson Info Wanted by Matthew Zivich 29) Re: Harleyford Fighter Book by Charles Hart ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 17:22:40 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: SMER kits, Pfalz non-silver finish Message-ID: <199802160122.AA19746@ednet1.orednet.org> KarrArt@aol.com writes: >The long defunct Merit line form Great Britain managed to almost perfectly >duplicate the Aurora Fokker D VII, Albatross D III/V, Camel and I can't >remember what else. It's difficult to tell any difference in the pieces and at >least the Fokker parts are interchangable. But, they did come form different >molds.It's long been a mystery to me why legal action wasn't taken, or if it >was, I never heard. Perhaps because Aurora's very first aircraft kit was an F9F Panther kit which was a direct copy of the 1/49 scale Hawk kit. Aurora's skirts were not exactly clean in this regard which might well have led it to prefer a quiet settlement over a public lawsuit. In any case, Merit never copied any additional Aurora kits after the initial six which would seem to indicate some sort of quiet settlement - either that, or WWI kits were selling so poorly that they weren't worth copying. :-( But, copying other folks kits was not, apparetnly. considered as legally reprehensible in the early days of plastic manufacturing as it is today. Cheers and all, BIll -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "If you can see the tracers, the little piss-ants have missed you." Chief Warrant Officer Emet "Stoney" Parker ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 17:26:34 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: SMER kits, Pfalz non-silver finish Message-ID: <199802160126.AA20641@ednet1.orednet.org> I wrote: >On the silver, remember that it is silber-grau, not "silver". >Mixing about one part light to medium gray with Testors' >non-buffing aluminum gives a color that looks about right to >my eye -snips- Make that two parts Testors' aluminum for each part gray. Sorry for the typing error. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "If you can see the tracers, the little piss-ants have missed you." Chief Warrant Officer Emet "Stoney" Parker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 16:12:28 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: More Post Cards Message-ID: <34DF713C.7B9A@conted.gatech.edu> The Georgia Chapter has received the latest set of WWI post cards form the UK: 37. Gotha G.IV 38. R.E.8 39. AEG G.IV 40. Anatra DS 41. S.E.5a (Rhys-Davies') 42. Pfalz D.III 43. A-W F.K.8 44. Camel 45. Alb. D.V (Goering's) 46. SPAD XIII 47. D.H5 48. Bristol M1b The cost of this set (of which we have 5) is $6.75 plus $3 shipping in the US. Twelve more cards will be available later this year to complete this series. BTW, we still have two of the first 36-card sets left at $20 plus shipping. Please e-mail me if interested. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 23:50:54 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: wwi Subject: Re: Fok.D.7 interior Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980215235054.007f3950@wingate> At 08:21 AM 2/11/98 -0500, you wrote: >Hi all, > >A question: > >What were the interior colours of the Fokker D.VII in the engine area. What >colour were the engine bearers, the insides of the metal cowls, etc.? Joey Valenciano I have noticed that on Albatros built D.VII's, the pipes or lines, (water, gas, pressurized air, and oil), on the motor are color coded. I've misplaced my Fokker D.VII Anthology, but recall seeing a so so quality reprint of such a photo in there. If someone knows German coding practices, they may be able to tell us that blue is air, red is gas, white is water, or whatever, I believe the Anthology photo is good enough to make out the white pipes/lines. It appears that Fokker did not adhere to such color coding practices on their D.VII's. As far as frame or interior cowling colors, I've read grey, but since references are not quoted, your guess is as good as mine. I would think there would be source data from Paris or Canada as to their D.VII's, prior to restoring. I am interested in Fokker built D.VII interior colors. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 00:10:41 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Fokker D.VII colors Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980216001041.007d0340@wingate> For what's worth, I pulled out the color sample "chips" I bought from Dan Abbott. He labels the streaky green as being a combination of the following three colors; Dark Olive Brown 4F8 Fokker, Olive Brown 4E5 Fokker, and Light Olive Brown 4D8 Fokker. The frame and struts are Pastel Grey 1C1 Fokker. The Fokker under-surface sky-turquoise is 25C5 varnished. I don't know if these are munsell numbers or made up Abbott numbers, he showed me a small color reference book at the time, but I've forgotten what it was, maybe someone can refresh my memory. Dave PS.He looked over a piece of Roland D.VIb 2225/18 and gave the following color evaluations; Wooden fuselage strakes - 6E8 Rust Brown Interior fuselage - 4F6 Olive Brown Aluminum inspection plate - 4/5F6 Olive Brown ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:53:06 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: comparing the journals/mag Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980216105306.006dbb14@philonline.com.ph> Hi Sandy, everybody, >If you want to try it, I'd suggest you look at the web page index of >volumes/issues; pick one of the volumes available on a special deal and >send of for it - you get four issues for 8.50GBP that way. Probably the >issue that contains the big fold-out plans for the Canadian Jennies would >suit you? Which volume is this in? I looked through the C&C articles list last night and couldn't find it. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 00:38:27 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: SMER kits, Pfalz non-silver finish Message-ID: <20d19700.34e7d0d5@aol.com> In a message dated 98-02-15 20:23:12 EST, you write: << Perhaps because Aurora's very first aircraft kit was an F9F Panther kit which was a direct copy of the 1/49 scale Hawk kit. Aurora's skirts were not exactly clean in this regard which might well have led it to prefer a quiet settlement over a public lawsuit. >> According to an article in an old FSM, Aurora copied the Hawk kit TOO well- the original kit had a series of dots and dashes molded into (I think )the inside of one of the fuselage halves that spelled "hawk" in Morse code and Aurora even faithfully copied this feature! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 00:58:56 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: wwi Subject: Re: New guy: interior colours Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980216005856.007ba5c0@wingate> At 12:49 PM 2/14/98 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, I'm new both to the list and to WW I modelling. >Is olive drab correct for Fokker interiors? > >Dane > Hi Dane, Welcome, I photocopied a photo from the Fokker archive, of what I believe to be Fok. D.VII 252/18, or close to that production. It is a closeup of the cockpit. The interior of the right internal side is well lighted, and appears to be natural "white" fabric with the streaky green lightly bleeding through from the exterior application, internally mirroring the pattern. Best Wishes, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 00:22:32 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Fokker D.VII colors Message-ID: <08223430304080@KAIEN.COM> Dave Watts wrote . . . > For what's worth, I pulled out the color sample "chips" I bought from Dan > Abbott. He labels the streaky green as being a combination of the > following three colors; Dark Olive Brown 4F8 Fokker, Olive Brown 4E5 > Fokker, and Light Olive Brown 4D8 Fokker. The frame and struts are Pastel > Grey 1C1 Fokker. The Fokker under-surface sky-turquoise is 25C5 varnished. > I don't know if these are munsell numbers or made up Abbott numbers, he > showed me a small color reference book at the time, but I've forgotten what > it was, maybe someone can refresh my memory. > Dave That would be the METHUEN Handbook. The numbers are from the same. regards, Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 00:26:28 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: comparing the journals/mag Message-ID: <08262815004086@KAIEN.COM> Joey, The article on the Canadian Jenny (Canuck) is in 15/3 (1984) and contains many photos as well as GAs and colour notes (these are what I based a lot of my profiles on) regards, Bob Pearson ---------- > From: Joey Valenciano > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: comparing the journals/mag > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 00:34:24 -0500 > > Hi Sandy, everybody, > > >If you want to try it, I'd suggest you look at the web page index of > >volumes/issues; pick one of the volumes available on a special deal and > >send of for it - you get four issues for 8.50GBP that way. Probably the > >issue that contains the big fold-out plans for the Canadian Jennies would > >suit you? > > Which volume is this in? I looked through the C&C articles list last night > and couldn't find it. > > > > ********************************************************************* > > Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, > joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist > tel. (632) 921-26-75 > Metro-Manila, Philippines > > "The more you know, the more you don't know." > > ********************************************************************* > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:19:58 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: SMER kits, Pfalz non-silver finish Message-ID: <199802161051.KAA01981@beryl.sol.co.uk> > Wasn't the Smer Camel, et. al. orginally descended from the > Aurora "prototype"? (There was a thread on this subject not too long > ago.) .................. > Matt Z. Briefly; Aurora made original six planes and J&L Randall in UK copied these and issued them under Merit trade name. Aurora then made next three Pfalz, SPAD, Nie28 but Merit did not copy, instead made some original models of their own (Not copies, certainly not Inpact who weren't around for another 10 years!) - DH2, 504K, Walrus, Swordfish etc. Later when Artiplast bought Merit moulds they added their own original SVA and the whole lot was then sold to SMER. I always thought the Randall copying was legit - but why did they not then do the later releases? Looks like they were legally stopped perhaps - anybody know for sure? I also read somewhere that that the short-lived 1/48 Airfix Hawker Fury came from (I think) Merit moulds but was never issued by them. Most of the first six Auroras / Merits will not measure out too well against the plans as most are bigger than 1/48, like 1/46 or 1/43 (Dr1). Inpact made six "Magnificent men.." and four 30's Bipes (different Hawker) - then sold to Pyro then to Lindberg. Never made a 504. Perhaps we should stick this sort of stuff on the web page as it seems to come up pretty often? Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:27:48 GMT From: "Leonard Endy" To: wwi Subject: WWI Caisson Info Wanted Message-ID: <34e92242.1137970@legend.firstsaga.com> Thought the list members would be able to provide some info on this request for info: On Sun, 15 Feb 1998 00:21:43 -0600, Eric Nichols wrote: I have a friend who bought a WWI caisson. He's looking for any picture, models, plans, whatever so he'll have some kind of guide to rebuild it. (this isn't a model) The wooden parts are rotted away, but the metal is in good shape. He just needs something to show how it all goes together so he can restore it.=20 Any help would be appreciated, even if it's to another address that may have something like that. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Thank you! Eric Nichols enichols@nava-link.net =20 TIA Len Endy lfendy@firstsaga.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 07:21:54 EST From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI Caisson Info Wanted Message-ID: <548b848d.34e82f64@aol.com> What KIND of caisson? Does he know the gun for which this caisson was made? The nationality even? I have some information on the caisson for the M1897 French 75mm gun. Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 09:13:34 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: gjertsond@email.msn.com (dennis gjertson) Cc: wwi Subject: 144 WWI Message-ID: <199802161413.JAA14334@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Dennis, I'm at a loss too, but I'll forward this to the WWI modeling mailing list. If anyone knows they will. -Allan (List: CC dennis on any replies.) > i'm about at wits end allan...i've been trying to locate a source for a > small scale (1:144) die cast WWI aero modellismo company called Mamoli. the > name is on the instruction sheet (packed in bag), there are 32 models on the > reverse of the instructions, (written in 5 languages) there is also the > term - DIS. B. VOLONTE' under the Mamoli name...i've just built the Fokker > DR1 (their no. MA 8402) and it was quite relaxing to me...although my hands > feel like they're all thumbs of a giant when working at that scale...i can't > remember for the life of me where i got this little kit...they were very > reasonable if i remember, $5-6 around... i figured you, of all sources, > could possibly lead me in the right direction on this one...any clues about > this?...thanks for any help you can swing my way allan...i've been trying > this for about 6 mos. now... > dennis gjertson > gjertsond@msn.com =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:24:48 -0800 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: AEG D.I Message-ID: <199802161424.AA06326@egate2.citicorp.com> Does anyone have any details of the above, or the pilot Lt. Walter Hohndorf (the name has the double dots over the first 'o'), who may have flown the A.E.G. D.I in Jasta 14 from March 1917 until his death in the same plane on 5 September 1917? My source for this tid-bit was from the recently acquired Fighting Triplanes by Evan Hadingham. Information on colours/markings/victories &/or combats would be greatly appreciated as I'm a nut for obscure aircraft that were used operationally. The only references I show are: Air Enthusiast Vol 1 No 1 (not held) Eisernes Kreuz und Balken Krues (held) Fighter Aircraft of WW1 (Harleyford) (held) German Aircraft of WW1 (Putnam) (held) Vintage Warbirds No 8 (not held) Windsock Vol 2 No 4 (held) Windsock WW1 Warplanes No 2 (held) World War 1 Aeroplanes (held) Of the ones I hold, I'm fairly sure that I remember reading that a pilot was killed in the plane, but not that it was ever used operationally. Is there anything in the various Norman Franks' books, anyone? Thanx. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:35:27 GMT From: "Leonard Endy" To: gjertsond@msn.com Cc: wwi Subject: Mamoli Message-ID: <34e84d6d.12190695@legend.firstsaga.com> Hi Dennis, The company Model Expo that advertises in FSM once had a supply of these for sale. I rec'd a flyer a while back. (Sorry, it was tossed.) They are in Florida and this is the number: 800-222-3876. Mon - Fri 9 to 6 eastern time. They might still have some. Len Endy lfendy@firstsaga.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 08:44:13 -0600 (CST) From: fedders To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Caudron G.3 Message-ID: On Sat, 14 Feb 1998, Bill Shatzer wrote: > > > Phillip writes: > > -snips- > > >perhaps someone with the Flying Machines Press french AF book could > >corroborate the aluminum dope over CDL scheme??? > > No trace of aluminum dope in any of the photos in the FMP book. > Indeed, there seems to be a considerable translucency in > the wings which would seem to preclude any aluminum dope - > which was, after all, opaque - or nearly so. > > The illustrations section has one G.3 which is illustrated > in a CDL scheme as well - while I tend to distrust illustrations, > this one seems in accordance with the photographs. > > Cheers and all, Bill > > -- > Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org > > "If you can see the tracers, the little piss-ants have missed you." > Chief Warrant Officer Emet "Stoney" Parker > >From what I have read (and cannot remember references) the Al dope was regular dope with Al powder added. The color of the finish was NOT Al but the addition of the powder did change the colors somewhat. peter fedders ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:51:26 EST From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI Caisson Info Wanted Message-ID: <495aafde.34e86e90@aol.com> In a message dated 98-02-16 06:29:06 EST, you write: << have a friend who bought a WWI caisson. He's looking for any picture, models, plans, whatever so he'll have some kind of guide to rebuild it. (this isn't a model) The wooden parts are rotted away, but the metal is in good shape. He just needs something to show how it all goes together so he can restore it.=20 Any help would be appreciated, even if it's to another address that may have something like that. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Thank you! Eric Nichols enichols@nava-link.net >> Eric, please contact me "off list" at grbroman@aol.com. I can put you in contact with two gentlemen that can help. Nither, unfortunately, has email. Glen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:03:28 -0800 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: Harleyford Fighter Book Message-ID: <199802161703.AA09915@egate2.citicorp.com> Someone may want to check this out if its correct. My search on www.abebooks.com on Author Lamberton,W came up with: 3. Lamberton, W. M. & E. F. Cheesman. (Eds. ). Fighter Aricraft of the 1914-1918 War. Blue Ridge Summit Harleyford/Aero/Tab 1964. Very Good+, paperback, no dust jacket. Illustrated by b&w Photos. 2nd printing edition. Binding is Paperback. Book# 000514 US$ 15.00. Please contact Booksworth for more information about purchasing this book. Booksworth , 1003 21st Avenue North , St. Petersburg , FL , U.S.A. , 33704 Phone (813) 827-0110 , Email bookman@booksworth.com If it really is US$15, this is an excellent price (must be a typo I'd have thought). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:07:33 EST From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: "Coffee Table" Caudron G.3 Message-ID: I pick up one of these G3 Beasties. Nice "coffee table model". I am in the process of rebuilding the landing gear and boom assemblies with brass and wood. That pot metal is way too brittle. It will easily break in construction. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 01:08:00 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: comparing the journals/mag Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980217010800.006f0130@philonline.com.ph> Hi Bob, >The article on the Canadian Jenny (Canuck) is in 15/3 (1984) and contains >many photos as well as GAs and colour notes (these are what I based a lot of >my profiles on) Thanks for the tip! The article index in the C&C site shows only these features for 15/3: Vol.15 Number 3 The RFC/RAF (Canada) - Squadrons and Markings : Kenneth Molson Ace: Lt Col W A Bishop, VC, DSO and bar,MC, DFC, Ld'H and CdeG : Dennis Hyland Coastal PatrolAirships 1915-18, Part 2 : Brian J Turpin Ehrenbecher : Paul S Leaman No mention of any Jennies! ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 01:11:21 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: SMER kits, Pfalz non-silver finish Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980217011121.006f0130@philonline.com.ph> Hi all, >Inpact made six "Magnificent men.." and four 30's Bipes (different Hawker) >- then sold to Pyro then to Lindberg. Any one know where a Bleriot or Handasyde kit can be had? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 01:20:51 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: mamoli Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980217012051.006f0130@philonline.com.ph> Hi Dennis, >> i'm about at wits end allan...i've been trying to locate a source for a >> small scale (1:144) die cast WWI aero modellismo company called Mamoli. MAMOLI: 20149 Milano - viale Teodorico, 2 Tel. (01) 33.00.24.57/33.00.35.49 - FAX (02) 33.00.24.57 ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 01:27:40 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: Harleyford Fighter Book Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980217012740.006d488c@philonline.com.ph> >3. Lamberton, W. M. & E. F. Cheesman. (Eds. ). Fighter Aricraft of the >1914-1918 War. Blue Ridge Summit >Harleyford/Aero/Tab 1964. Very Good+, paperback, no dust jacket. >Illustrated by b&w Photos. 2nd printing edition. Binding is Paperback. >Book# 000514 US$ 15.00. Please contact Booksworth for more information >about purchasing this book. > >Booksworth , 1003 21st Avenue North , St. Petersburg , FL , U.S.A. , >33704 >Phone (813) 827-0110 , Email bookman@booksworth.com > >If it really is US$15, this is an excellent price (must be a typo I'd >have thought). I've seen another paperback of this book at $24 in one of the ABE (on the internet) member bookstores. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:57:59 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: SMER kits, Pfalz non-silver finish Message-ID: <199802161752.RAA23319@beryl.sol.co.uk> If you're desperate, Kingkit had a Handasyde (Pyro) at 19.99GBP, may also have Bleriot - try Malcolm on 106054.1147@compuserve.com Sandy PS - mind you he's a bit of an idiot - I tried to buy 2 Profiles from him a few weeks ago and he wanted as much for postage as for each pub! Postage is my pet hate and I resent paying 3.50GBP for two 8-page leaflets which would only need a 26p stamp between them. When I offered by e-mail to send him an SAE to drop them in, he replied with "Oh no you don't - you'll pay the same as everybody else" !!!!!! I decided "Oh no I won't". ---------- > From: Joey Valenciano > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: SMER kits, Pfalz non-silver finish > Date: 16 February 1998 17:28 > > Hi all, > > >Inpact made six "Magnificent men.." and four 30's Bipes (different Hawker) > >- then sold to Pyro then to Lindberg. > > Any one know where a Bleriot or Handasyde kit can be had? > > > ********************************************************************* > > Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, > joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist > tel. (632) 921-26-75 > Metro-Manila, Philippines > > "The more you know, the more you don't know." > > ********************************************************************* > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:43:52 -0800 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: AEG D.I Message-ID: <34E888E8.2DE2@ricochet.net> Graham Nash wrote: > > Does anyone have any details of the above? I have an entry in Green & Swanborough w/ tech data, 3-Vs and a photo. > Information on colours/markings/victories &/or combats would be greatly appreciated as I'm a nut for obscure aircraft that were used operationally. Well, the one in the picture looks to have CDL wings & horizontal tail surfaces and a very pale blue (?) fuselage. > I'm fairly sure that I remember reading that a pilot > was killed in the plane, but not that it was ever used operationally. "Difficult to fly, one prototype crashed during type testing. The D.I was nevertheless ordered as a pre-series of 20 for frontline evaluation. This contract was canceled, however, after a second prototype crashed on 5 September 1917." HTH, The Librarian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:22:27 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: Harleyford Fighter Book Message-ID: <199802161922.OAA15459@pease1.sr.unh.edu> This leaves me with some suspicious - the only copies I've ever seen have been hardcover. Was it printed in PAPERBACK?!? -Al > 3. Lamberton, W. M. & E. F. Cheesman. (Eds. ). Fighter Aricraft of the > 1914-1918 War. Blue Ridge Summit > Harleyford/Aero/Tab 1964. Very Good+, paperback, no dust jacket. > Illustrated by b&w Photos. 2nd printing edition. Binding is Paperback. > Book# 000514 US$ 15.00. Please contact Booksworth for more information > about purchasing this book. > > Booksworth , 1003 21st Avenue North , St. Petersburg , FL , U.S.A. , > 33704 > Phone (813) 827-0110 , Email bookman@booksworth.com > > If it really is US$15, this is an excellent price (must be a typo I'd > have thought). =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | You fell victim to one of the 'classic' blunders! University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:26:58 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Zivich To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: WWI Caisson Info Wanted Message-ID: You might try contacting the Imperial War Museum, London, UK. I have photographs that show a caisson in the background, but I don't know any more about it. On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Leonard Endy wrote: > Thought the list members would be able to provide some info on this > request for info: > > On Sun, 15 Feb 1998 00:21:43 -0600, Eric Nichols > wrote: > > I have a friend who bought a WWI caisson. He's looking for any > picture, models, plans, whatever so he'll have some kind of guide to > rebuild it. (this isn't a model) The wooden parts are rotted away, but > the metal is in good shape. He just needs something to show how it all > goes together so he can restore it.=20 > Any help would be appreciated, even if it's to another address that > may have something like that. > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Thank you! > Eric Nichols > enichols@nava-link.net > =20 > > TIA > Len Endy > lfendy@firstsaga.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:09:26 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: Harleyford Fighter Book Message-ID: The Fighters volume was printed in paperback edition, though I don't think this was a Harleyford produced edition. I have a hardbound copy of the Harleyford Fighter book, but it was published by Aero publishers in California sometime in the 1960s or perhaps as late as 1970. My edition is a facsimile edition and the quality of a number of the photos is rather poor. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu >This leaves me with some suspicious - the only copies I've ever seen have >been hardcover. Was it printed in PAPERBACK?!? > >-Al > >> 3. Lamberton, W. M. & E. F. Cheesman. (Eds. ). Fighter Aricraft of the >> 1914-1918 War. Blue Ridge Summit >> Harleyford/Aero/Tab 1964. Very Good+, paperback, no dust jacket. >> Illustrated by b&w Photos. 2nd printing edition. Binding is Paperback. >> Book# 000514 US$ 15.00. Please contact Booksworth for more information >> about purchasing this book. >> >> Booksworth , 1003 21st Avenue North , St. Petersburg , FL , U.S.A. , >> 33704 >> Phone (813) 827-0110 , Email bookman@booksworth.com >> >> If it really is US$15, this is an excellent price (must be a typo I'd >> have thought). > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 894 *********************