WWI Digest 890 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Caudron G.3 docs & Belgian Camel question by perrysm@juno.com 2) Re: Hasegawa 1/8 Scale Kits. by TPTPUMPER@aol.com 3) Books Found-13 February 1998 by Graham Nash 4) Re: dragondiles, etc. by bucky@mail.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 5) RE: WWI digest 889("Schweinhund" SE5a?) by "Denest, Michael J" 6) Americal / Gryphon by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 7) SE-5a Schweinhund by James Gibbons 8) Re: SE-5a Schweinhund by Suvoroff@aol.com 9) Re: Americal / Gryphon by "John Glaser" 10) comparing the journals/mag by Joey Valenciano 11) Re: dragondiles, etc. by Joey Valenciano 12) Re: Books Found on the net-13 February 1998 by Graham Nash 13) Re: Jasta 15 D.VII underside colors by Carlos Valdes 14) Re: Jasta 15 D.VII underside colors by Charles Hart 15) Blue Max Roland by "Sandy Adam" 16) Hanriot HD1 by Franco Poloni 17) Blue Max Aircraft by "Denest, Michael J" 18) Re: Hanriot HD1 by Alberto Rada 19) Re: Blue Max Roland by Patrick Padovan 20) Re: Books Found-13 February 1998 by djones@iex.com (Doug Jones) 21) Re: comparing the journals/mag by Charles Hart 22) RE: German Purple (was RE: WWI wins big. etc) by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 23) Ferko Photos by djones@iex.com (Doug Jones) 24) Re: Ferko Photos by Carlos Valdes 25) Re: Ferko Photos by Charles Hart 26) Re: Ferko Photos by djones@iex.com (Doug Jones) 27) Re: Books Found on the net-13 February 1998 by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 28) Re: German Purple (was RE: WWI wins big. etc) by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 29) Book list by mbittner@juno.com 30) Propagteam/Smer Decals by perrysm@juno.com 31) Re: Caudron G.3 by REwing@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 23:10:22 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Caudron G.3 docs & Belgian Camel question Message-ID: <19980212.231023.16430.0.perrysm@juno.com> I was able to pick up a 1:24 scale Caudron G.3 kit. The model is by Arnaldo Pocher and put out by a Swiss company, Metrop. The instructions show some rigging detail that might be hard to see on photos. I'd be happy to send a copy to anyone who sends me a snail mail address. Probably be pestering those who have posted information about documentation for this aricraft. I suppose when I get around to building the thing, I'll have to make up a 1:24th scale Neil Armstrong figure to go with it. Does anyone know which model Camel the Belgians flew, 1F1 or 2F1? I have the 1:48 Smer kit. According to the Wylam drawings the Smer kit is too big in some dimensions to be either a 1F1 or a 2F1. I need to know how much plastic to hack. Thanks Steven Perry perrysm@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 01:43:13 EST From: TPTPUMPER@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Hasegawa 1/8 Scale Kits. Message-ID: <45532bfd.34e3eb83@aol.com> Hi Guys! I built up the Bentley kit a fw years back. I was quite pleased with the kit--very nice. Sorry, I don't remember what I paid for it. Have Fun!! IRA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 08:58:22 -0800 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: Books Found-13 February 1998 Message-ID: <199802130858.AA03837@egate2.citicorp.com> My meanderings have found: Sopwith Camel, King of Combat-Chaz Bowyer Its an earlier print than the Aston Publications book, being about the same height and width as a Datafile but a lot thicker, with the same high quality paper used, as least on the photos. From memory, the pictures look nicer than than the later re-issue. D/J is whole, but has stains. Cost was GBP20, if interested. Aces and Aircraft of World War I-Chris Campbell, Treasure Press Found for GBP4.50. Not highly recommended, as colour profiles (Banfield etc.) are suspect, and probably says nothing you don't already know. Not a bad price though! Any one on the list like to give a better critique for those unfamiliar with it? Aircraft and Flyers of the First World War, Joseph Phelan, Patrick Stephens Ltd About GBP12 I think. I'm happy to re-check if anyone's interested. Winged Warfare-Autobiography of Billy Bishop (H/b with good d/j) About GBP8 I think. Off-Topic Books A number of WW2 Harleyfords have been seen around (L*nc*st*r, M*ss*rschm*tt, F*ck*-W*lf), plus various 'Aircraft of the Flying Powers' and what appeared to be almost complete sets of U.S. Civil Aircraft books by Aero Press(?). Plus: issues of FANA (Fanatique de l'Aviation) at GBP1.00! each. French magazine for Aviation Enthusiasts. If you want these, give me issue numbers plus the article you are looking for, as I think there's a similarly named magazine, and wouldn't want to get the wrong one. Issues I saw had articles in French by Harry Woodman on WW1 Junkers planes, Serbian & Bulgarian WWI aviation, and Guynemers planes. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 07:28:46 -0500 From: bucky@mail.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: dragondiles, etc. Message-ID: <199802131228.HAA03715@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 10:12 PM 2/12/98 -0500, Joey Valenciano wrote: > >>>>Any requests for other artwork? I may be interested in drawing up what >>>>you >>>>are interested in. >> Just a thought, but wasn't there a face drawing for the front of the >>radiator on (drawing a blank on Pilot's name...wrote Wind in the Wires) 's >>"Schweinhund" SE5a? >>In 1/72 that might be nice.... > >Hi Mike, read this somewhere. I could do it, but would be more confident >with something a photo to copy from. Great. I'll see if I can find it. If so, I'll mail it to you. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 08:31:28 -0500 From: "Denest, Michael J" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: WWI digest 889("Schweinhund" SE5a?) Message-ID: <21A9C368581DD011986600805FEABAD4019BD5DE@xch-phl-01.he.boeing.com> Mike, There is a left side profile of "Schweinhund" in the appendix section of "High In The Empty Blue". There is no mention of a face on the radiator. I am curious about the color scheme for the upper surfaces, etc. Are the upper surfaces of the wings and tailplane PC 10? Are the bottom surfaces CDL? It's a very unusual color scheme. I would sure like to see three views of this aircraft. Mike > >On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:38:17 -0500 Joey Valenciano > > writes: > > > >>Any requests for other artwork? I may be interested in drawing up > what > >>you > >>are interested in. > Just a thought, but wasn't there a face drawing for the front > of the > radiator on (drawing a blank on Pilot's name...wrote Wind in the > Wires) 's > "Schweinhund" SE5a? > In 1/72 that might be nice.... > Mike Muth > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 07:41:29 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Americal / Gryphon Message-ID: <199802131343.HAA10077@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> Does anyone happen to know the current price (number of postage stamps) for Americal / Gryphon's catalog? TIA Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 08:44:02 -0500 From: James Gibbons To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: SE-5a Schweinhund Message-ID: <01BD385B.8E61DEC0.jgibbons@vppsa.com> Mike "Schweinhund" was the aircraft flown by Duncan Grinnell-Milne. I believe he was the last wartime commander of 56 Squadron (though I seem to recall reading somewhere that the "schweinhund" paint scheme was post-war). Allan (our long suffering list-administrator) built me an SE-5a with this paint scheme (I had a friend in Iowa hand paint the words on the nose so my model has logged quite a few air miles). I don't remember ever seeing anything about a face on the front (radiator) though. Do you have a reference for this? I may have to get my model "accurized" See ya, James Gibbons ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 09:02:00 EST From: Suvoroff@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: SE-5a Schweinhund Message-ID: <53879095.34e4525a@aol.com> Quoth Mr. Gibbons; "I don't remember ever seeing anything about a face on the front (radiator) though. Do you have a reference for this? I may have to get my model 'accurized'". Grinnell-Milne says, "in addition I hoped soon to have sketched out a portrait of the Kaiser on the radiator, painted so that when the shutters were opened and closed rapidly, the Imperial moustaches would wiggle and the eyes blink-the idea being that a picture of the All Highest might put the enemy machine-gunners off their aim." However, as he does not mention this idea again and because of the official attitude of the RFC against personal markings on aircraft, I doubt that this was actually done. Yours, James D. Gray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 09:30:43 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: Re: Americal / Gryphon Message-ID: <19980213153326.AAA12033@johng> Paul: From my order form: "three first class stamps (no envelopes please), $1.00 or 3 International return coupons (surface mail)." - John ---------- > From: Paul Schwartzkopf > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Americal / Gryphon > Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 7:39 AM > > Does anyone happen to know the current price (number of postage > stamps) for Americal / Gryphon's catalog? TIA > > > Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 23:32:05 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: comparing the journals/mag Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980213233205.006f6b00@philonline.com.ph> Greetings fellow fellows, I'd like to start (or resume) a thread here. How would you appraise the journals/mag below? What are their respective strong points? I know that this type of thread has been tackled before and is somewhere in the archive. Just thought that a more current appraisal would be useful. I have only seen a few pages of some of the journals and own only one copy of Windsock International, so I shouldn't contribute much to the thread. But let me start it off by giving the subscription rates that I know of. If incorrect, please alter. Cross & Cockade - $34 Over the Front - $37 WWI Aero - ? Windsock International - ? Datafiles - ? (Is there a discount if you subscribe to both WindI and DataF?) ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 00:26:47 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: dragondiles, etc. Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980214002647.00703f44@philonline.com.ph> >>Hi Mike, read this somewhere. I could do it, but would be more confident >>with something a photo to copy from. > > Great. I'll see if I can find it. If so, I'll mail it to you. Roger ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:17:32 -0800 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: Re: Books Found on the net-13 February 1998 Message-ID: <199802131717.AA22842@egate2.citicorp.com> Aviation Awards of Imperial Germany in WWI, Vol 2 - Prussia O'Connor (WWI Aviation Foundation 1990) 8.5"x11", 285p illus; retail 29.95 [A-] $24.00 Bombers 1914-1939 Cooper & Batchelor (BAC 1973) 64p illus [B+] 3.50 This is the one with some bomb details per the recent thread. De Havilland DH-4 Boyne (Smithsonian 1984) 8.5"x11", 120p illus; ex-lib stamp. [B] $7.50 Profiles (Profile Publ): 5. Vickers Vimy; 55. Fokker Dr.1; 74. Short 184; 85. R.E.8; 91.DH.2; 181. DH.5; all [B] or better. $5.00 ea, plus some others at http://members.tripod.com/~Eckland/sbbooks.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 21:45:55 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: Jasta 15 D.VII underside colors Message-ID: <34DD1C63.6F5A@conted.gatech.edu> Charles, > These decals are rather well printed with sufficient national insignia to > produce quite a few of the subject offerings. Decals are available from: > > Americal/Gryphon Decals > 4373 Varsity Lane > Houston TX 77004 USA What are the prices, including domestic shipping, for these sheets? TIA. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:32:12 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: Jasta 15 D.VII underside colors Message-ID: >Charles, > >> These decals are rather well printed with sufficient national insignia to >> produce quite a few of the subject offerings. Decals are available from: >> >> Americal/Gryphon Decals >> 4373 Varsity Lane >> Houston TX 77004 USA > > What are the prices, including domestic shipping, for these sheets? >TIA. > Carlos The Jasta 15 Sheets, A/G #s 138, 139 and 140 are US$12.50 each. Postage is US$ 2.00 for up to three sheets within the US. HTH Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:52:18 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Blue Max Roland Message-ID: <199802131846.SAA06051@beryl.sol.co.uk> Scoot on over to the Hannant's New Arrivals page to see the box top for the new Blue Max Roland C.II, they now have in stock. Looks nice! Sandy (Gads can I get one of these past the wife when I've still not built the beautiful Sierra one yet!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 06:33:30 GMT From: Franco Poloni To: wwi Subject: Hanriot HD1 Message-ID: <199802110633.GAA25257@lo.itline.it> Hi all I'm looking for JMGT Hanriot HD1. Do you have any info about where can I find it? Thanks Franco ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 14:05:29 -0500 From: "Denest, Michael J" To: "'WW1 Mailing list'" Subject: Blue Max Aircraft Message-ID: <21A9C368581DD011986600805FEABAD4019BD5E1@xch-phl-01.he.boeing.com> I was just doing some sniffing around on the web and found this link. http://www.lx.net/rwilson/bluemax.html There are pilots notes written by Derek Pigott for flying the Blue Max aircraft and photos of same. There's not much for modeling but the reading may be interesting. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:23:32 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Hanriot HD1 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980213152332.00e75e48@pop.true.net> Hi Franco I think Sopwith Hobbies has it SALUDOS Alberto At 01:59 PM 13-02-98 -0500, you wrote: >Hi all >I'm looking for JMGT Hanriot HD1. >Do you have any info about where can I find it? >Thanks > > > Franco > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 11:38:17 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Blue Max Roland Message-ID: Sandy: Terrific news! This means I should soon be finding one in my mail box! (via Air Mail, of course!) Ciao! Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, Sandy Adam wrote: > Scoot on over to the Hannant's New Arrivals page to see the box top for the > new Blue Max Roland C.II, they now have in stock. > Looks nice! > Sandy > (Gads can I get one of these past the wife when I've still not built the > beautiful Sierra one yet!) > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:51:36 -0600 (CST) From: djones@iex.com (Doug Jones) To: wwi Subject: Re: Books Found-13 February 1998 Message-ID: <9802131951.AA22695@deimos.tx.iex.com> > Sopwith Camel, King of Combat-Chaz Bowyer > Its an earlier print than the Aston Publications book, being about the > same height and width as a Datafile but a lot thicker, with the same > high quality paper used, as least on the photos. From memory, the > pictures look nicer than than the later re-issue. D/J is whole, but has > stains. Cost was GBP20, if interested. > I was at UTD today browsing through the "for sale" stack. They have this book there. I thumbed through it for a bit. It is in excellent shape. Dust Jacket is intact. Nice book. Bit more than what Graham found at US $50. Doug -- ------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (972)301-1307 | djones@iex.com ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:22:05 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: comparing the journals/mag Message-ID: Joey Valenciano inquires: > >I'd like to start (or resume) a thread here. How would you appraise the >journals/mag below? What are their respective strong points? I know that >this type of thread has been tackled before and is somewhere in the >archive. Just thought that a more current appraisal would be useful. I have >only seen a few pages of some of the journals and own only one copy of >Windsock International, so I shouldn't contribute much to the thread. But >let me start it off by giving the subscription rates that I know of. If >incorrect, please alter. > >Cross & Cockade - $34 You can subscribe to C&CI via direct credit card payment to them, the price is just over US$31 via surface mail anywhere in the world. This journal covers the historical aspects of WW I aviation. There is no modeling content to this journal apart from very occasional kit or decal reviews. Color is limited to the covers. What do you get ? Some very well written and edited articles on lesser known personalities who flew during WWI. Being a British publication, coverage of RFC/RAF personell is emphasized. Photo content is very good, you see things not seen in other publications or not previously published. Overall, this is not as "slick" in appearance as other WW I oriented journals. C&CI is also known for good inserts of scale a/c plans on occasion. In my rather partisan view this is a very good publication and a source for otherwise unpublished information on WW I aviation. >Over the Front - $37 > >WWI Aero - ? Subscription price is US$30.00 per year in the US, about US$35.00 overseas surface mail. This publication is heavily oriented on historical aspects of aviation technology for the period 1900-1919. There is substantial pre-WWI content in a year's worth of journals. Again, production values aren't as "slick" as found in other journals, it was only about a year ago that they discovered computer typesetting for their issues, prior to that I think they were knocked out on a type writer. Certainly some unique and original material makes its way into the pages of this journal like copies of long lost factory drawings and there is a nice continuing series on photos of a/c cockpit interiors. This journal features a modeling column, which in this month's issue appears to have just "dicsovered" the existence of Sierra Scale Models. >Windsock International - ? >Datafiles - ? >(Is there a discount if you subscribe to both WindI and DataF?) Combined surface mail subscription price to the US for 1998 is on the order of US$130.00, I think. These aren't cheap for the paltry number of pages this purchases. My partisan US$ 0.02 worth. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 14:24:44 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: German Purple (was RE: WWI wins big. etc) Message-ID: <01BD388B.227144A0.panz-meador@vsti.com> so polly-S or Xtracolor it is for purple. i see polly-S also makes a color described as french/fokker dark green (FS34096), which is an agressively dark green. is there agreement that this is a good shade? any paint recommendations for the brown that the purple/mauve replaced in 1917? TIA, phillip anz-meador -----Original Message----- From: Mary-Ann/Michael [SMTP:bucky@mail.ptd.net] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 1998 7:20 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: German Purple (was RE: WWI wins big. etc) At 07:22 PM 2/10/98 -0500, Shane Weier wrote: > >Back to my question. >Allowing that I'm not all that pedantic, and that artists impressions >might not be within miles of reality, does anyone care to publish >*their* personal choice or mix for the colour? Shane I've aalways liked the Poly S version...dark but clearly a deep purple...please no Duh Duh Duh, Duh Duh Duh Duh threads!!!!! Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:10:23 -0600 (CST) From: djones@iex.com (Doug Jones) To: wwi@pease1.unh.edu Subject: Ferko Photos Message-ID: <9802132110.AA24627@deimos.tx.iex.com> I was at UTD today. I was given the opportunity of looking through a box of photos of Dr1s. Oh boy! Neat stuff. Many of the photos are copies from Nowarra (sp ?). Or Ferko had the same photo. There were notes on the backs of many of them indicating that they were the same as Nowarra. SOme had Nowarra's copyright on them. There were also some from Puglisi. The rest I assume are originals. There were several Sanke cards. There was a couple of really cool airial shots of Jastas. He also had in this box 2 or 3 shots of Dr1s in the raw, so to speak. I saw a couple of prototypes, one of the workers at the factory all standing on a middle wing, numerous pilot shots, and pictures of aircraft with markings I have never seen or dreamed of! I am ready to break out my 1/6 R/C model and get started! He has at least 30 small boxes like this divied up into aircraft types. I was also told they have several boxes of Sanke Cards. He also, apparently, was a collector of plastic models. Seems they have about 4 moving size boxes of plastic models. From what I could tell they are of all kinds of planes. Not just WWI. They are supposed to catalog them and get me a lit that I will pass on. There is also some talk of taking them to IPMS (?) event next month here in DFW. Folks, I am no authority or expert on any of this stuff. I do not pretend to be. So I will try and pass along what I see for you folks to digest. Almost all of you are more qualified to discuss these photos etc than I am. If I get a chance to view anything else in the future I will take along a notebook and try and get some notes on what I am looking at. Doug -- ------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (972)301-1307 | djones@iex.com ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 01:51:12 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: Ferko Photos Message-ID: <34DD55E0.4DBA@conted.gatech.edu> > If I get a chance to view anything else in the future I will take along > a notebook and try and get some notes on what I am looking at. Please do, Doug (you lucky bum!). Many thanks again. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 14:40:26 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: Ferko Photos Message-ID: You are very fortunate to have such access to this material. I personally know someone who contributed US$500.00 toward the purchase of these materials (total purchase price was over US$100,000) who has been completely shut out from doing research in these collections. The claim by the library staff is that the collection must be cataloged before research is permitted. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu >I was at UTD today. I was given the opportunity of looking through a box of >photos of Dr1s. Oh boy! Neat stuff. Many of the photos are copies from >Nowarra (sp ?). Or Ferko had the same photo. There were notes on the backs >of many of them indicating that they were the same as Nowarra. SOme had >Nowarra's copyright on them. There were also some from Puglisi. The rest >I assume are originals. There were several Sanke cards. There was a couple >of really cool airial shots of Jastas. He also had in this box 2 or 3 shots >of Dr1s in the raw, so to speak. I saw a couple of prototypes, one of the >workers at the factory all standing on a middle wing, numerous pilot shots, >and pictures of aircraft with markings I have never seen or dreamed of! I >am ready to break out my 1/6 R/C model and get started! He has at least >30 small boxes like this divied up into aircraft types. > >I was also told they have several boxes of Sanke Cards. He also, apparently, >was a collector of plastic models. Seems they have about 4 moving size >boxes of plastic models. From what I could tell they are of all kinds of >planes. Not just WWI. They are supposed to catalog them and get me a lit >that I will pass on. There is also some talk of taking them to IPMS >(?) event next month here in DFW. > >Folks, I am no authority or expert on any of this stuff. I do not pretend >to be. So I will try and pass along what I see for you folks to digest. >Almost all of you are more qualified to discuss these photos etc than I >am. If I get a chance to view anything else in the future I will take along >a notebook and try and get some notes on what I am looking at. > >Doug > >-- >------------------------------------------------- >'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones > both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation > Led Zeppelin | (972)301-1307 > | djones@iex.com >------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 16:04:55 -0600 (CST) From: djones@iex.com (Doug Jones) To: wwi Subject: Re: Ferko Photos Message-ID: <9802132204.AA25781@deimos.tx.iex.com> > You are very fortunate to have such access to this material. I personally > know someone who contributed US$500.00 toward the purchase of these > materials (total purchase price was over US$100,000) who has been > completely shut out from doing research in these collections. The claim by > the library staff is that the collection must be cataloged before research > is permitted. > This I think is the typical sceanario. I am lucky! Very lucky. I was there to buy a book and talk about the books that had been sold. Nothing more. I was asked if I had een the models that Mr. Ferko had that they would like to sell. I hadn't so I was shown them. It is in this room that the small boxes exist that are labeled by aircraft type. I was given permission to look at one. Quite by chance. It was NOT my intention to go looking for such an opportunity. I know the rules by which the collection operates. I learned today what the purchase price was. To say I was taken aback is an understatement! I feel very badly that your friend who contributed hard cash is being denied access to the collection. I wish I could change that. I feel doubly bad that I have on two occassions been given an opportunity (quite by chance) to look at some photos. In reality this is exactly what I was doing. No research just looking. I know they are anxious to get the materials catalogued so they can be made generally available. I hope to work with UTD further where I can. I plan on updating my web site to reflect the books that the members of this list have so graciously purchased. I appreciate your buying them and so does UTD. This sentiment has been expressed to me more than once. I can understand that people who made REAL contributions that allowed Mr. Ferko's collection to be bought would be a bit miffed that I have seen some of the materials. To that end I shall continue to not persue viewings of the materials until they are available for research. And if I should have another rare opportunity (which I doubt) I will keep it to myself! Those who contributed should have the first access and should get to speak of it in public. List members, please accept my personal thanks (for what it is worth) for helping UTD dispose of their books. It will help get the various materials in the collections cataloged and made available so we can all benefit. Doug -- ------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (972)301-1307 | djones@iex.com ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:56:00 -0800 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Books Found on the net-13 February 1998 Message-ID: <34E4DD90.3AEE@ricochet.net> Graham Nash wrote: > > Aviation Awards of Imperial Germany in WWI, Vol 2 - Prussia O'Connor > (WWI Aviation Foundation 1990) 8.5"x11", > 285p illus; retail 29.95 [A-] $24.00 > > Bombers 1914-1939 Cooper & Batchelor (BAC 1973) 64p illus [B+] 3.50 This > is the one with some bomb details per the recent thread. > > De Havilland DH-4 Boyne (Smithsonian 1984) 8.5"x11", 120p illus; ex-lib > stamp. [B] $7.50 > > Profiles (Profile Publ): 5. Vickers Vimy; 55. Fokker Dr.1; 74. Short > 184; 85. R.E.8; 91.DH.2; 181. DH.5; all [B] or better. $5.00 ea, Data hounds and dilettantes alike should bear in mind that the list library / librarian has all but the 1st of the above. Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 16:06:57 -0800 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: German Purple (was RE: WWI wins big. etc) Message-ID: <34E4E021.D0C@ricochet.net> Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador wrote: > any paint recommendations for the brown that the purple/mauve replaced in 1917? FWIW, My personal choices are: Floquil Italian brown, Testors rust or burnt sienna. Tone to taste, serve either brickish or brownish with dark green on the side. Prosit, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 19:04:27 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Book list Message-ID: <19980213.191822.16286.1.mbittner@juno.com> Doug, Could you email me your booklist again, please? I just trashed a bunch of stuff; your list was one of them. Sorry, and thanks. Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:00:49 -0500 From: perrysm@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Propagteam/Smer Decals Message-ID: <19980213.170104.16710.1.perrysm@juno.com> Has anyone evolved any good techniques for working with the decals that come in Smer kits? Will spraying or daubing them with something cure their tendency to turn under themselves, rip and otherwise make themselves useless? TIA sp _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 00:15:15 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Caudron G.3 Message-ID: <96ac8c9b.34e52865@aol.com> << BTW, are you building the wonderful Rosemont kit?>> Thanks Matt, I'm thinking of building the 1/24th Metrop kit, but without usint the fabris paper they provide. I've had this kit for about 12-15 years and think it could look fairly grand. I'll have to see if I can get the references you quoted at the local library. -Rick- ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 890 *********************