WWI Digest 887 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) German Purple (was RE: WWI wins big. etc) by Shane Weier 2) Re: Know these books? by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 3) Re: German Purple by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley Barrett) 4) Re: German Purple & Pfalz DIII by "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." 5) Re: Know these books? by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 6) Re: German Purple & Pfalz DIII by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 7) Re: German Purple & Pfalz DIII by Bob Pearson 8) Re: Jasta 15 D.VII underside colors by Charles Hart 9) Re: German Purple & Pfalz DIII by KarrArt@aol.com 10) Re: German Purple & Pfalz DIII by REwing@aol.com 11) Caudron G.3 by REwing@aol.com 12) Toko Kits by huggins@onramp.net (John Huggins) 13) Re: German Purple & Pfalz DIII by "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." 14) Fok.D.7 interior by Joey Valenciano 15) Re: Caudron G.3 by mbittner@juno.com 16) UTD Book List by "Douglas R. Jones" 17) Re: UTD Book List by Carlos Valdes 18) Re: Jasta 15 D.VII underside colors by Carlos Valdes 19) Re: Caudron G.3 by Ernest Thomas 20) RE: Caudron G.3 by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 21) Hasegawa 1/8 Scale Kits. by "John Glaser" 22) dragondiles, etc. by Joey Valenciano 23) Re: Hasegawa 1/8 Scale Kits. by Bob Pearson 24) MvR last flight & Dragodiles by Bob Pearson 25) Re: Hasegawa 1/8 Scale Kits. by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 26) Re: Hasegawa 1/8 Scale Kits. by Charles Hart 27) Re: UTD Book List by djones@iex.com (Doug Jones) 28) Re: dragondiles, etc. by lothar@televar.com (mark) 29) RE: dragondiles, etc. by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 30) Re: German Purple & Pfalz DIII by Patrick Padovan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 09:20:16 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: wwi Subject: German Purple (was RE: WWI wins big. etc) Message-ID: <199802110030.KAA10466@mimmon.mim.com.au> Mark comments, both thoughtfully, and with impeccable good taste: >That said, the people who make them must also be a better class of >people, for having such elegant tastes. This means they are also very >obviously superior modellers! ;{) Naturally. And being such a fine class of people, generous with their knowledge and tolerant of opposing opinion. Usually ;-) Back to my question. Unfortunately I don't have a Methuen, so it's difficult to get a handle on the range of possible colours for the German mauve/lilac/purple. It seems from Xtracolour and Humbrols interpretations that the colour is a rather dismal degraded brownish purple, yet much artwork appears with quite bright colours, and some (eg, on the DFW C.V datafile) have pale bright colours. Allowing that I'm not all that pedantic, and that artists impressions might not be within miles of reality, does anyone care to publish *their* personal choice or mix for the colour? Regards Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 17:35:57 -0800 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Know these books? Message-ID: <34E1007D.21DA@ricochet.net> > "If you can see the tracers, the little piss-ants have missed you." > Chief Warrant Officer Emet "Stoney" Parker Is this quote from a real person or from the pages of somehting like Goshawk Squadron? Tobias ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:45:50 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley Barrett) To: wwi Subject: Re: German Purple Message-ID: Shane asks: >Allowing that I'm not all that pedantic, and that artists impressions >might not be within miles of reality, does anyone care to publish >*their* personal choice or mix for the colour? Shane, I use the Polly S colour (German Mauve) straight-up. Because I brush-paint, I have some trouble with this paint's coverage, which is so-so, but after a few coats, it turns out right to my eye. Sort of a medium-intensity light purple. Good contrast to the Dark Green which accompanies this camoflage. Kevin Barrett. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 20:29:34 -0800 From: "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." To: wwi Subject: Re: German Purple & Pfalz DIII Message-ID: At 08:47 PM 2/10/98 -0500, you wrote: > >I use the Polly S colour (German Mauve) straight-up..... > Good contrast to the Dark Green which accompanies this camoflage. > >Kevin Barrett. > Speaking of mauve-green camouflage.... The underside of the box of the Glencoe Pfalz D.III illustrates 8 color schemes. One is listed as only Jasta 10 in the instructions but is identified (out of sequence and by process of elimination) as that of Lt. Gustav Beller (sic) of Jasta 10. "Jasta Pilots" lists a Lt. Gustav Bellen of Jasta 10 as being wounded and retired from flying on 11 Oct 1917 while flying Pfalz DIIIa 8168/17. The illustrated aircraft has a yellow nose as would be expected in a Jasta 10 aircraft. However, it is in mauve-green camouflage instead of silbergrau. It looks very attractive but is there any documentation of Pfalz D.III's in mauve-green camouflage or of Bellen's aircraft in particular? The Glencoe kit came with a nice selection of decals. Unfortunately, the crosses are all too thin and the sheet is all off register. Fernando Lamas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 20:33:42 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Know these books? Message-ID: <199802110433.AA26813@ednet1.orednet.org> >> "If you can see the tracers, the little piss-ants have missed you." >> Chief Warrant Officer Emet "Stoney" Parker >Is this quote from a real person or from the pages of somehting like >Goshawk Squadron? A real person - he flew guns and slicks with the 1st Air Cav out of Tay Ninh, RVN 1968-'69. The quote is from a book "Easy Target" by Tom Smith from which I shamelessly stole. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "If you can see the tracers, the little piss-ants have missed you." Chief Warrant Officer Emet "Stoney" Parker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 20:46:13 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: German Purple & Pfalz DIII Message-ID: <199802110446.AA01568@ednet1.orednet.org> Fernando Lamas writes: > Speaking of mauve-green camouflage.... > > The underside of the box of the Glencoe Pfalz D.III illustrates 8 color >schemes. One is listed as only Jasta 10 in the instructions but is >identified (out of sequence and by process of elimination) as that of Lt. >Gustav Beller (sic) of Jasta 10. "Jasta Pilots" lists a Lt. Gustav Bellen >of Jasta 10 as being wounded and retired from flying on 11 Oct 1917 while >flying Pfalz DIIIa 8168/17. The illustrated aircraft has a yellow nose as >would be expected in a Jasta 10 aircraft. However, it is in mauve-green >camouflage instead of silbergrau. > It looks very attractive but is there any documentation of Pfalz D.III's >in mauve-green camouflage or of Bellen's aircraft in particular? Two photos of Bellen's Pfalz D.III appears on page 32 of the Albatros JG 1 special ("von Richthofen's Flying Circus - Colours and markings of Jagdgeschwader No.1") by Greg VanWyngarden. The nose is hidden in the photos so the yellow nose can't be confirmed but it is most definitely camouflaged and not silbergrau. VanWyngarden indicates the camouflage was most likely green/mauve with the undersurfaces silbergrau. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "If you can see the tracers, the little piss-ants have missed you." Chief Warrant Officer Emet "Stoney" Parker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:01:47 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: German Purple & Pfalz DIII Message-ID: <05014760906585@KAIEN.COM> Fernando, The first Pfalz D.IIIs to reach the front were in Mauve/Green finish. Photographs show Bellen's D.III on its nose in camouflage finish and bearing a white band under the fuselage cross (the cross is outlined in silbergrau) and others show Heldmann up beside D.III 1395/17. I don't have the Glencoe box handy, but recall the profile as being accurate. Regards, Bob Pearson ---------- > From: "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." > The underside of the box of the Glencoe Pfalz D.III illustrates 8 color > schemes. One is listed as only Jasta 10 in the instructions but is > identified (out of sequence and by process of elimination) as that of Lt. > Gustav Beller (sic) of Jasta 10. "Jasta Pilots" lists a Lt. Gustav Bellen > of Jasta 10 as being wounded and retired from flying on 11 Oct 1917 while > flying Pfalz DIIIa 8168/17. The illustrated aircraft has a yellow nose as > would be expected in a Jasta 10 aircraft. However, it is in mauve-green > camouflage instead of silbergrau. > > It looks very attractive but is there any documentation of Pfalz D.III's > in mauve-green camouflage or of Bellen's aircraft in particular? > > The Glencoe kit came with a nice selection of decals. Unfortunately, the > crosses are all too thin and the sheet is all off register. > > Fernando Lamas > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 22:28:25 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: Jasta 15 D.VII underside colors Message-ID: > I am starting a Fokker D. VII but would like to avoid tackling lozenge at >the current time. I have skull decals for Hantelmann's plane and winged >cross decals for Berthold's plane so I am thinking of doing a red-blue-white >Jasta 15 color scheme. However, I have not been able to find out about the >underside colors on these aircraft. Were they painted (and in what pattern) >or were they left in lozenge? > > Fernando Lamas This inquiry has coincided with the arrival in my mail box of a new set of decals from Americal/Gryphon. Sheets #138, 139 and 140 cover 40 different machines from Jagdgeschwader II, Jagdstaffel 15. Sheet #138 is in 1/72, sheets 139 and 140 cover 1/48. These sheets were accompanied with an informative booklet describing all the covered machines. Research data came from the photo archives of Peter Grosz and the color notes text was reviewed by Greg Van Wyngarden. Users of these decals are also referred to a series in OTF by Richard Duiven (OTF vol. 9 #3 & #4, vol. 10 #1). Markings are included for tow of Berthold's winged sword machines, a Pfalz D-IIIa and the Fokker D-VII. The notes for the latter state the following: "This was an early production Fokker-built D-VII with streaked camouflage on the fuselage and closed end crosses. The rear fuselage and tail assembly were blue ... and the blue color was extended to the upper surfaces of both wings (a common Jasta 15 practice), except for the center section of the upper wing - cutout plus one rib bay each side - that was painted white. We hold out the possibility that the center section was not simply white, but may have had an emblem painted within it. The fuselage blue color terminated at mid-cockpit and the remainder of the forward fuselage fabric, when photographed, was left in the factory streaked camouflage, only the forward metal panels (plus struts and wheels) being painted red. It is possible, even likely, that the red color was later extended aft to meet the blue. The fuselage cross shows though the blue paint and the tip of the rear wing of the winged sword is over the front arm of the cross." Later on in the description of the famous Hantelmann/Wusthoff machine, there is mention of the fact that fabric from this machine survives in the Imperial War Museum. The blue color is quoted as being quite dark, corresponding to Methuen value 24F8. Other notes in the booklet point suggest that underside finishes on the Fokkers were left in factory applied markings. For early Fokker-built machines these would mean that the wings were finished either with blue undersides or 4-color lozenge. Which finish would depend on the Werk. Number and for most of Jasta 15 (please correct me if I'm wrong here) we don't know the serials of their overpainted machines. Berthold's D-VII may have been something of an exception with its blue painted wings. Hope this helps. These decals are rather well printed with sufficient national insignia to produce quite a few of the subject offerings. Decals are available from: Americal/Gryphon Decals 4373 Varsity Lane Houston TX 77004 USA Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 00:23:05 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: German Purple & Pfalz DIII Message-ID: <3e41411b.34e135bb@aol.com> In a message dated 98-02-10 23:31:36 EST, you write: << It looks very attractive but is there any documentation of Pfalz D.III's in mauve-green camouflage or of Bellen's aircraft in particular? The Glencoe kit came with a nice selection of decals. Unfortunately, the crosses are all too thin and the sheet is all off register. Fernando Lamas >> Yes- the DataFile has 2 photos of Bellen's mauve-green Pfalz after it crashed.Seemingly some of the first Pfalz D IIIs left the factory this way.The bottom color is in dispute- maybe light blue, maybe silver-gray. Those Glencoe decals look good except for the thin crosses.I had 2 sheets- both were on register, but when I tried to use them ,all the black ink cracked off and floated away! Nastiest mess I ever got into with decals. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 01:25:44 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: German Purple & Pfalz DIII Message-ID: <7539c5d7.34e1446b@aol.com> In a message dated 98-02-10 23:31:36 EST, you write: << It looks very attractive but is there any documentation of Pfalz D.III's in mauve-green camouflage or of Bellen's aircraft in particular? >> Fernando, The Pfalz D.III Datafile shows the green and mauve plane on the cover and there are a couple of photos of an aircraft inside. I don't know the pilot's name off-hand, but will try to locate it, unless someone else comes up with it. The undersurfaces could be light blue, but Ray Rimell states it is more likely silbergrau. HTH, -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 01:34:08 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Caudron G.3 Message-ID: <929d6c59.34e14663@aol.com> Can anyone possible direct me to or send me details and/or photos of this aircraft. I would appreciate any and all help. TIA, -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 01:19:53 -0600 (CST) From: huggins@onramp.net (John Huggins) To: wwi Subject: Toko Kits Message-ID: Squadron got the Toko Pfalz D.XII (Lt Klein & Bavarian Fighter Sq a/c) and the SS D III/DIV(DIII Udet & DIV Lerner) kits in today. They are $9.95 plus post each. The SS has both wings and spinners in the kit. Both have Laz. decals. Th eupper and lower colors are the same, with no rib tapes. Both kits have the basic cockpit parts. The Pfalz has a very nice engine and both have some pretty good looking guns in them. The rib detail is very light with a hint of fabric texture on the plastic. Early look showed some light flash on trailing edges, but overall they look very nice. I will take a closer look in the next few days and post more at that time. John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 23:42:14 -0800 From: "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." To: wwi Subject: Re: German Purple & Pfalz DIII Message-ID: >Fernando, > >The Pfalz D.III Datafile shows the green and mauve plane on the cover and >there are a couple of photos of an aircraft inside. Thanks to everyone who replied. I am still polishing my rusty modeling skills on Glencoes and Monograms before I move on to the Eduards and DMLs I bought. I am going to finish the Glencoe Pfalz DIII in this scheme and put the Fok. DVII on hold as I am not yet ready to deal with lozenge. Can anyone mail me a Xerox copy of the photos of the mauve-green Pfalz D.III in the Datafile? I can send a Xerox copy of the Fok. Dr.I Datafile in return. Fernando Lamas lamas@olympus.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:13:02 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Fok.D.7 interior Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980211211302.006c91dc@philonline.com.ph> Hi all, A question: What were the interior colours of the Fokker D.VII in the engine area. What colour were the engine bearers, the insides of the metal cowls, etc.? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 04:52:27 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Caudron G.3 Message-ID: <19980211.045322.7038.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 01:38:01 -0500 REwing@aol.com writes: >Can anyone possible direct me to or send me details and/or photos of >this aircraft. I would appreciate any and all help. I show the following of interest in my database: WW1 Aero: #115 (3-view drawing); #120 (Cockpits/Instruments); #151 (more cockpit photo's) The FMP book Unfortunately, a type needed serious documentation above and beyond that already given. The G.4 has had much better exposure. BTW, are you building the wonderful Rosemont kit? Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 09:51:46 -0600 From: "Douglas R. Jones" To: wwi Cc: mcaspari@utdallas.edu Subject: UTD Book List Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980211095144.006b5b30@deimos.tx.iex.com> I have sent the MS Word form of the list to everyone who has asked for one. If I missed you drop me a note and I will send a zipped copy along. I can also send a text copy if anyone wants one. It is VERY long so be forewarned. For those with internet capabilities I have placed the info on the web at http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/aeroclassics/Page1.html The pages are crude but I think they convey the info. Sorry it was all I had time for! Doug -------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (972)301-1307 | djones@iex.com -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 11:13:33 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: UTD Book List Message-ID: <34DB36AD.7C4E@conted.gatech.edu> Thanks for the list, Doug. Now there's no excuse for anyone not to have copies of Ferko's Fliegertruppe series. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 11:13:49 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: Jasta 15 D.VII underside colors Message-ID: <34DB36BD.6EED@conted.gatech.edu> Fernando, The new D.VII Anthology 1 from Albatros has a "chapter" on this a/c. The wings, tops and bottoms, are covered in the appropriate 5-color lozenge fabric, while the axel winglet is turqouise underneath and streaky Fokker green on top; tailplane undersides are shown as fabric-covered, with upper surfaces dark blue. Struts are gray-green. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:18:03 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: Caudron G.3 Message-ID: <34E1DD4B.2A7D@bellsouth.net> REwing@aol.com wrote: > > Can anyone possible direct me to or send me details and/or photos of this > aircraft. I would appreciate any and all help. > TIA, > -Rick- Rick, I can copy the G.3 chapter out of the WWI Color profiles book and mail it to you if you give me your snail-mail address. Ernest "nothin like a bath of fire to get this deep down dirt outta me" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:36:02 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Caudron G.3 Message-ID: <01BD36E1.3BE13B80.panz-meador@vsti.com> if anyone is interested in the g.3, i've got the old "combat aeroplanes of ww1" which features a color 3-view and 2 pages of profiles of this bird (french, chinese republic, and finnish markings, i believe, for both land and hydro-planes). about 3 pages of text, operational history, etc. drop me a line if you'd like it. phillip anz-meador -----Original Message----- From: mbittner@juno.com [SMTP:mbittner@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 9:41 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Caudron G.3 On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 01:38:01 -0500 REwing@aol.com writes: >Can anyone possible direct me to or send me details and/or photos of >this aircraft. I would appreciate any and all help. I show the following of interest in my database: WW1 Aero: #115 (3-view drawing); #120 (Cockpits/Instruments); #151 (more cockpit photo's) The FMP book Unfortunately, a type needed serious documentation above and beyond that already given. The G.4 has had much better exposure. BTW, are you building the wonderful Rosemont kit? Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:06:44 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: "World War 1 Mail List" Subject: Hasegawa 1/8 Scale Kits. Message-ID: <19980211180725.AAA27451@johng> Has any list member built or attempted one of these kits? I'm tempted to get one but the price certainly is a BIG hurdle. Since I lack the refined skills of the avid scratch builder, I view these large kits as a means to an impressive display piece without scratch work. I'm most interested in the Fokker. Are the kits accurate? Should I plan on giving up the rest of my life while building one? TIA - John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 02:28:14 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: dragondiles, etc. Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980212022814.006dd048@philonline.com.ph> Hi all, Ah! Allan's webpage containing my artwork is finally functioning as it should. Right now it's got artwork for the Alb.C.III dragondiles as well as the "jester" insignia of the French Br/Sop 287 (I like this insignia, cute). But I overlooked the fact that many of us build in 1/72 :-0, easy to correct if you have graphics software, just resize to 66.666%. But for those who don't use such software, I could email you .jpg images of the artwork. Or would you suggest posting 1/72 images on the webpage? Any requests for other artwork? I may be interested in drawing up what you are interested in. Right now I'm drawing up instrument faces. I'll get a photographer to shoot them and resize them onto slide film. But I only have instrument photos from the back cover (Cockpit Curios No.10) of Windsock Vol.11#6 to work on. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:01:52 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Hasegawa 1/8 Scale Kits. Message-ID: <19015263807906@KAIEN.COM> I seem to recall that Rimell started the SE5a a decade ago and still isn't finished :-) Bob ---------- > From: "John Glaser" > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Hasegawa 1/8 Scale Kits. > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:27:52 -0500 > > Has any list member built or attempted one of these kits? I'm tempted to > get one but the price certainly is a BIG hurdle. Since I lack the refined > skills of the avid scratch builder, I view these large kits as a means to > an impressive display piece without scratch work. I'm most interested in > the Fokker. > > Are the kits accurate? Should I plan on giving up the rest of my life > while building one? > > TIA > > - John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:04:05 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: MvR last flight & Dragodiles Message-ID: <19040554907907@KAIEN.COM> Greetings all, CBC Radio is running a feature on the death of MvR as I type. They are interviewing Alan Bennet (co-author with Norman Franks on the recent last flight of MvR book). He just gave the startling news that Brown didn't shoot down MvR . . . . . One thing I did find interesting was that the 'bullet' holes in the back of the seat are in fact rivet holes for mounting the seat - you learn something every day. For those able to receive it, THIS MORNING TONIGHT will most likely rebroadcast this later tonight between 8-9pm local time (they don't have it up on the wbebsite yet, so I couldn't tell for sure). * I just saw Joey's Dragodile page and would like to say the page looks good. But one thing we should perhaps change is to stop calling it a DRAGODILE (or whatever), as I seem to recall that Bohme called it a TERRIBLE DRAGON, and if we continue to persist in calling it a dragodile (my fault I know) we may be causing future generations to assume that this is what C766/16 was known as in 1916. A minor trivaling point I know, but on such is history built. Having said that, I like the name Dragodile - why else would I have used it? :-) Regards, Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:19:39 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: Hasegawa 1/8 Scale Kits. Message-ID: <199802111921.NAA17998@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> John, I have not seen the 1/8 kits, but a friend of mine has the Hasegawa 1/16 Wright Flyer kit. It has wood, brass, and (I believe) metal parts. If I recall correctly, this kit also has "linen" for the wings, but don't quote me on that. It looks like a beautiful kit, if you have the time & money, so I would imagine that the 1/8 kits are very similar. I seem to also recall that the Camel was the "most accurate", but again I am working only from memory. Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:27:10 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: Hasegawa 1/8 Scale Kits. Message-ID: >I seem to recall that Rimell started the SE5a a decade ago and still isn't >finished :-) > >Bob Yeah, I think that sometime after he started building that kit he began another project, I think it was publishing his own magazine. I seem to recall that sometime after the magazine got started he began publishing a series of thin books also, to the tune of 6 or so a year. I suppose that he values his sleep. Charles >---------- >> From: "John Glaser" >> To: Multiple recipients of list >> Subject: Hasegawa 1/8 Scale Kits. >> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:27:52 -0500 >> >> Has any list member built or attempted one of these kits? I'm tempted to >> get one but the price certainly is a BIG hurdle. Since I lack the refined >> skills of the avid scratch builder, I view these large kits as a means to >> an impressive display piece without scratch work. I'm most interested in >> the Fokker. >> >> Are the kits accurate? Should I plan on giving up the rest of my life >> while building one? >> >> TIA >> >> - John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:27:34 -0600 (CST) From: djones@iex.com (Doug Jones) To: wwi Subject: Re: UTD Book List Message-ID: <9802111927.AA04244@deimos.tx.iex.com> > Thanks for the list, Doug. Now there's no excuse for anyone not to have > copies of Ferko's Fliegertruppe series. !!!! Doug -- ------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (972)301-1307 | djones@iex.com ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:31:34 -0800 (PST) From: lothar@televar.com (mark) To: wwi Subject: Re: dragondiles, etc. Message-ID: <199802111931.LAA19743@concord.televar.com> >But I overlooked the fact that many of us build in 1/72 :-0, easy to >correct if you have graphics software, just resize to 66.666%. Aha! Proof positive of the *evil* one must resort to in order to corrupt plans in the One True Scale down to the Nefarious Scale of Munchkins! I can almost smell the brimstone now.... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:12:46 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: dragondiles, etc. Message-ID: <01BD36F7.3BC17C80.panz-meador@vsti.com> one subject that might be fun to do is the fuesalage artwork for the fokker d-vii "the seven swabians". i believe that the artwork featured on the replica d-vii at old rheinbeck airdrome is incorrect, but is depicted correctly on a model i've seen on the web (robt. karr??). phillip -----Original Message----- From: Joey Valenciano [SMTP:joeyval@philonline.com.ph] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 12:38 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: dragondiles, etc. Hi all, Ah! Allan's webpage containing my artwork is finally functioning as it should. Right now it's got artwork for the Alb.C.III dragondiles as well as the "jester" insignia of the French Br/Sop 287 (I like this insignia, cute). But I overlooked the fact that many of us build in 1/72 :-0, easy to correct if you have graphics software, just resize to 66.666%. But for those who don't use such software, I could email you .jpg images of the artwork. Or would you suggest posting 1/72 images on the webpage? Any requests for other artwork? I may be interested in drawing up what you are interested in. Right now I'm drawing up instrument faces. I'll get a photographer to shoot them and resize them onto slide film. But I only have instrument photos from the back cover (Cockpit Curios No.10) of Windsock Vol.11#6 to work on. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:27:55 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: German Purple & Pfalz DIII Message-ID: Dear Fernando: I can send you copies of the green/mauve Pfalz, if you still need them. I have a copy of the Dr.I datafile, thanks, so you needn't send it in return. If you post me your address, I'll get the copies in the mail in the next day or so. Regards, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Fernando E. Lamas, M.D. wrote: > > >Fernando, > > > >The Pfalz D.III Datafile shows the green and mauve plane on the cover and > >there are a couple of photos of an aircraft inside. > > Thanks to everyone who replied. I am still polishing my rusty modeling > skills on Glencoes and Monograms before I move on to the Eduards and DMLs I > bought. I am going to finish the Glencoe Pfalz DIII in this scheme and put > the Fok. DVII on hold as I am not yet ready to deal with lozenge. > > Can anyone mail me a Xerox copy of the photos of the mauve-green Pfalz > D.III in the Datafile? I can send a Xerox copy of the Fok. Dr.I Datafile in > return. > > Fernando Lamas > lamas@olympus.net > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 887 *********************