WWI Digest 877

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Meikraft BE2c (Re: Meikraft)
	by Hirohisa Ozaki <ozaki@miln.mei.co.jp>
  2) Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
  3) Re: Meikraft
	by Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
  4) RE: Bomb source
	by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" <panz-meador@vsti.com>
  5) Re: Macchi M5
	by TPTPUMPER@aol.com
  6) PUTBUS Kit
	by Richard Humberstone <richardh@stratauk.demon.co.uk>
  7) Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS
	by mbittner@juno.com
  8) Loz colours - was NEW FSM 
	by "Sandy Adam" <cbbs@almac.co.uk>
  9) Re: Loz colours - was NEW FSM
	by Don Rinker <drinker@fast.net>
 10) Re: Loz colours - was NEW FSM
	by "Sandy Adam" <cbbs@almac.co.uk>
 11) Re: Edmund Thieffrey
	by "Paul Schwartzkopf" <pschwartzkopf@transcrypt.com>
 12) New Insignia Magazine now online 
	by Richard Humberstone <richardh@stratauk.demon.co.uk>
 13) WWI WWW Page on CD?
	by aew (Allan Wright)
 14) Re: Meikraft
	by Charles Hart <hartc@spot.colorado.edu>
 15) Re: Meikraft
	by Brian <NASAD003@SIVM.SI.EDU>
 16) message for Alberto Rada...
	by Joey Valenciano <joeyval@philonline.com.ph>
 17) Re: WWI WWW Page on CD?
	by Joey Valenciano <joeyval@philonline.com.ph>
 18) Re: Loz colours - was NEW FSM
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
 19) Re: Meikraft-Staggerwing
	by KarrArt@aol.com
 20) Re: Meikraft-Staggerwing
	by Charles Hart <hartc@spot.colorado.edu>
 21) Re: Loz colours - was NEW FSM
	by KarrArt@aol.com
 22) Re: Meikraft-Staggerwing
	by KarrArt@aol.com
 23) Re: Loz colours - was NEW FSM
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
 24) Re: Loz colours - was NEW FSM
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
 25) BUTTONS: THANKS JOHN!
	by Patrick Padovan <ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us>
 26) Re: Meikraft-Staggerwing
	by Brian Nicklas <NASAD003@SIVM.SI.EDU>
 27) Re: BUTTONS: THANKS JOHN!
	by KarrArt@aol.com
 28) Re[2]: Meikraft
	by REATON@ccmail.dsccc.com
 29) Re: Staggerwing
	by "Jim Lyzun" <aero@baynet.net>
 30) Off topic
	by "Bittner, Matthew (KTR) ~U" <BITTNERM@stratcom.af.mil>
 31) Re: Staggerwing
	by "Paul Schwartzkopf" <pschwartzkopf@transcrypt.com>
 32) Re: Aerocam: PC-10, etc.
	by Patrick Padovan <ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us>

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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 98 13:32:03 +0900
From: Hirohisa Ozaki <ozaki@miln.mei.co.jp>
To: wwi
Subject: Meikraft BE2c (Re: Meikraft)
Message-ID: <199802030434.NAA02013@zoo.miln.mei.co.jp>

kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley Barrett) wrote:
>Has anybody seen the Meikraft BE2c? Is it on the really bad side of the
>Meikraft scale (Alb DII), or the good side (Pfalz DIII)?
I have a kit and it is on the good side, I think.
I am hesitating about to get one more itbecause of price.

Hiro.

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Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 22:53:36 -0600
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS
Message-ID: <34D6A2D0.C36@bellsouth.net>

> The cure may be for guys like us to ACTUALLY GET OFF OUR BUTTS , write an
> article and submit it. 
Hear Hear!
Many years ago I did an article about how I built my nose-art girls
using
> the B-25 girl "Mitch the Witch" as an example and I think I got a couple
> hundred bucks! A long article is worth the trouble!
> Robert

Robert,

I still have that issue somewhere around here. Always thought it was
neat.

E.

Sweep on you fat and greasy citizens!

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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:01:34 -0800
From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.com>
To: WW1 Mailing list <wwi>
Subject: Re: Meikraft
Message-ID: <05013440099938@KAIEN.COM>


Carlos,

Many thanks for posting this. I am now the proud owner-to-be of a BE2c and
an Albatros C.III - I think I have a Dragodile in my future :-)

regards,
        Bob Pearson

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> From: Carlos Valdes <carlos.valdes@conted.gatech.edu>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> Subject: Meikraft
> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 20:13:27 -0500
> 
> Speaking of the devil, I just found this post on RMS and thought I'd
> pass it along:
> I could not beleive my eyes when I opened the third box of the
> collection that
> I just bought. Thirty-five Meikraft kits, the company that I provided

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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 00:36:48 -0600
From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" <panz-meador@vsti.com>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi>
Subject: RE: Bomb source
Message-ID: <01BD303B.D08F5520.panz-meador@vsti.com>

if anyone else is interested, i've scanned in the british bomb images from 
the octopus book "the bombers 1914-1945".  if  you'd like them (JPG 
format), let me know.

phillip

-----Original Message-----
From:	Tom Werner Hansen [SMTP:tomwerner.hansen@of.telia.no]
Sent:	Saturday, January 31, 1998 4:49 AM
To:	Multiple recipients of list
Subject:	Re: Bomb source

Would like that very much, thanks

----------
> From: Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador <panz-meador@vsti.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> Subject: RE: Bomb source
> Date: 30. januar 1998 18:46
>
> i can send you a scan from the 'bombers' book referenced previously in
this thread if you'd like.
>
> phillip
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Tom Werner Hansen [SMTP:tomwerner.hansen@of.telia.no]
> Sent:	Wednesday, January 28, 1998 4:51 PM
> To:	Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:	Re: Bomb source
>
> Could anybody supply me with a good set of drawings for some fo the more
> useful bombs. I'd like to try casting some myself, for common use if
> there's any interest.
> I assume there would be no restrictions on sending this kind of "letter
> bomb" through the mail.
> Tom
>
> ----------
> > From: Charles Hart <hartc@spot.colorado.edu>
> > To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> > Subject: Re: Bomb source
> > Date: 28. januar 1998 02:34
> >
> > >REATON@ccmail.dsccc.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I was looking up some info on wwi bombs for a kit I am finishing.
> (frog
> > >>vickers vimy) the bombs in the kit are poor. Has anyone heard of a
> source
> > >>of bombs of the period?  Am I missing something here?
> > >
> > >No, probably not. AFAIK, the only set of WWI bombs are RPM's 'Polish'
> > >(German) PuW set. Good for G, R, and maybe a few C-types.
> > >You may well have to resort to nicking the bombs (112 lb. size) from
an
> > >Airfix DH4 or two (these are the ones you're probably trying to cast).
> > >Even info on Brit/Allied bombs is rare. This is one of the saving
graces
> > >of the Phoebus Bombers 1914-1939 book. FWIW, the Revell Camel has a
> > >cluster of Coopers.
> > >
> > >Good luck,
> > >
> > >Toby
> >
> >
> >      Eduard 1/72 Sopwith Baby kit has some spiffy looking bombs with PE
> > fins.  Can't say what is found in the 1/48 version from this maker.
> >
> > Charles
> >
> > hartc@spot.colorado.edu
> >
> >
> 


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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 02:47:39 EST
From: TPTPUMPER@aol.com
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Macchi M5
Message-ID: <590e0825.34d6cb9d@aol.com>

Hi Alberto!

   I have wanted to learn to fly as long as I can remember!  There are only
two things I want to do in flying--WWI and seaplane.  I have the Walt Redfern
plans for a Fokker Dr.I, for reference.  While I do not think the world needs
yet another Dr.I, it is a proven design, if a bit unstable.  The instability
lends itself to aerobatics, which would be fun.  I have seen where WWI AERO
offers Macchi M5 drawings for sale, and I think they are the same as the ones
you have.  The M5 has always interested me as a feasible design to build--not
too big, etc.  It would satisfy both the WWI and the seaplane ideas, so yes, I
am interested in the set.  How much do you need for copy/post?

   That is another thing I like about Texas--I can finally learn to fly!  I
build model railroad equipment for a man in Florida who fixes private jets for
a living.  I asked him about flight lessons once and he told me not to learn
in Florida, as the air is just too congested and the airspace is all
controlled by one or another airport.  He told me to go to Texas and learn, as
there is much more open air and far less traffic.  (We did not know then about
our move.)  Well, now I am going to Texas, and there is a small airport near
the house.  Now all I need is an instructor with a "tail-dragger" . . .

   BTW, how is the Hippo Macchi kit?  I have the Aviatik D.I and love it.  Is
the M5 as nice?  I Iook forward to your pictures!  ;^)

Have Fun!!

IRA

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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 98 09:19:28 GMT
From: Richard Humberstone <richardh@stratauk.demon.co.uk>
To: wwi
Subject: PUTBUS Kit
Message-ID: <886497607.1018302.0@stratauk.demon.co.uk>

To all on the list.

It may be of interest that the only kit we still have significant stocks of is 
the V.19 Putbus. It retails at 5.50 pounds. (Maybe they'll all go now!)

Richard at Blue Rider
http://www.squadron.com/insignia


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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 04:23:09 -0600
From: mbittner@juno.com
To: wwi
Subject: Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS
Message-ID: <19980203.042314.15606.5.mbittner@juno.com>

On Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:41:57 -0500 Shane Weier <SDW@qld.mim.com.au>
writes:

>Whoa !!

I must apologise, as I only wanted to demonstrate the folly of the FSM
article in terms of color.


Matt Bittner

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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:24:11 -0000
From: "Sandy Adam" <cbbs@almac.co.uk>
To: <wwi>
Subject: Loz colours - was NEW FSM 
Message-ID: <199802031118.LAA29691@beryl.sol.co.uk>

 
> Yes, Shane? Sandy? I do agree that there would have been fading and the
> loss of color, but as dramatic a shift of color as some of these decals
> are?  Hmmm...

Who knows? I think you are right and there is a general consensus that the
Pegasus/Americal shades seem most accurate but I wouldn't criticise anybody
for using some of the others. I must admit my crediblity is stretched too
far by the wallpaper you get in DML kits, but I don't know where you draw
the line - and certainly wouldn't suggest to anybody else what they should
use. 

I was watching a glider against a beautiful red winter sunset on Sunday and
the reflections under the wings were a fabulous luminous pink colour - I
wished at the time that I were a good enough artist to capture the effect
and considered what such a sun would have done to a silver Nieuport or a
white D.VII. Who says what the lighting conditions we are trying to achieve
on our models might be?
If somebody covered the DML D.VII or D.VIII with the stock lozenge and put
a card in front of it saying it was caught in the evening sunshine, how
would you say they were wrong?

I painted my Dolphin in a PC-12ish brownish PC-10 mixture because I thought
this colour on the Datafile cover looked superb and that was the effect I
wanted. Its a different colour entirely from my Strutter and Snipe, but so
what?

Another point - the new colour schemes in the D.VII Anthology show
overpainted insignia visible through paintwork on aircraft we all thought
we knew. But surely we can live with either - who's to say that the
show-through isn't a trick of the film, for example. Don't jump on me on
this - I don't have strong views on it either way. All I'm saying is; if
the modeller has done some research and made his model according to his
findings then we should respect his beliefs, even if we might make it
differently ourselves.

> 
> The two best parts of the article are:  (1)  the author builds in 1/72nd,
> and (2) he chooses an unusual subject to show his technique; the Fokker
> D.VI.
I see you have made a typo here Matt - you obviously meant to say:
The two best parts of the article are:  (1)  the author builds a Fokker
D.VI, and (2) he chooses an unusual scale to show his technique; 1/72.

Never mind we know what you meant
Sandy

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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 06:43:21 -0500
From: Don Rinker <drinker@fast.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Loz colours - was NEW FSM
Message-ID: <34D702D9.270@fast.net>

Sandy Adam wrote:

> I was watching a glider against a beautiful red winter sunset on Sunday and
> the reflections under the wings were a fabulous luminous pink colour - I
> wished at the time that I were a good enough artist to capture the effect
> and considered what such a sun would have done to a silver Nieuport ...

Scale Judge: Hmmm what the hell is this? a dayglo pink Nieuport ????

Sandy : Ohh judgie, I was attempting to portray the glowing effect of a
        late evening sunset on silver wings

Judge:  Security, get this nutcake out of here...

Sandy :   What about my early morning purple Fokker ??

Whammm, Bappp.... , Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhh.

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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:01:04 -0000
From: "Sandy Adam" <cbbs@almac.co.uk>
To: <wwi>
Subject: Re: Loz colours - was NEW FSM
Message-ID: <199802031155.LAA01076@beryl.sol.co.uk>

> Sandy :   What about my early morning purple Fokker ??

I think he has just written to me! Have another rusk, Don.
Sandy

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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 07:43:55 +0000
From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" <pschwartzkopf@transcrypt.com>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Edmund Thieffrey
Message-ID: <199802031345.HAA19872@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com>

Bob,

Thanks, this would be most helpful.  I would appreciate a copy of your 
profile.  I enjoy doing models with what you could call "more obscure" 
markings.  

BTW, I presume the wing insignia are the same as the "modern" roundels?

Paul  

> I have done a profile of this aircraft if you want a copy. The upper
> surfaces are in dark green with the fuselge sides and lower surfaces
> in aluminum. The wheel covers are white with a red stripe through the
> centre, the same marking (white disc, red stripe) appears on the
> turtleback.
> regards,
>        Bob Pearson

Paul A. Schwartzkopf

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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 98 14:05:28 GMT
From: Richard Humberstone <richardh@stratauk.demon.co.uk>
To: wwi
Subject: New Insignia Magazine now online 
Message-ID: <886514766.101571.0@stratauk.demon.co.uk>

The fourth online Insignia Magazine is now live at

http://www.squadron.com/insignia

Features on the Lohner L40 Flugboot, plus other WW1 era aircraft in post WW1 
service


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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 10:33:58 -0500 (EST)
From: aew (Allan Wright)
To: wwi
Subject: WWI WWW Page on CD?
Message-ID: <199802031533.KAA05121@pease1.sr.unh.edu>

Hi Everyone!

   I was just wondering if there would be any interest in getting the WWW page
on CD? I'm thinking of burning a copy for myself, and If I do it wouldn't be
that much extra work to make some extra copies. I'd be using the CD writer
at work after hours, so turn around might not be really fast, but once you
got the CD you'd save yourself download time for all those images.

   I'm thinking the cost would be about $25, which would include US shipping,
but international shipping would be actual cost extra.

   If you're interested please respond to me, I'll decide weather to do it 
based on interest. Comments / discussion can go to the list. 'Me too' messages
to me personally: aew@unh.edu

Thanks,
Al

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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 09:08:08 -0700
From: Charles Hart <hartc@spot.colorado.edu>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Meikraft
Message-ID: <l03102800b0fcf1140bd7@[128.138.153.98]>

>Carlos broke the news on the following:
>
>>
>>Here is what is available, all 1/72 unless otherwise noted):
>>4x BE.2c
>
>
>Has anybody seen the Meikraft BE2c? Is it on the really bad side of the
>Meikraft scale (Alb DII), or the good side (Pfalz DIII)?

    The Meikraft kit of the Be-2c falls on the Albatros D-I/II side of the
scale.  Both kits were produced about the same time, 1988.  The Hansa
Brandenburg W-29 falls in this category also.

Charles

hartc@spot.colorado.edu



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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 98  11:21:52 EST
From: Brian <NASAD003@SIVM.SI.EDU>
To: <wwi>
Subject: Re: Meikraft
Message-ID: <199802031625.LAA05477@pease1.sr.unh.edu>

Gee Whiz,
I thought the D.II was rough, but not really BAD.
The W-29 struck me as much better, so much so that I don't plan
on getting the Pegasus or MPM kit, I think the W-29 looks fine.
My Pfalz D.III has a real rough texture, like sandpaper, so I wouldn't
rate it all that much higher then the others.  But it has a nice decal.
The roughest I have is their Douglas D-558-I, good shape, but detail
of small parts is horrible.  And the Beech Staggerwing is disappointing,
partly because I like Staggerwings so much, I guess.
Brian


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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 00:21:04 +0800
From: Joey Valenciano <joeyval@philonline.com.ph>
To: wwi
Subject: message for Alberto Rada...
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980204002104.006d7b2c@philonline.com.ph>

Hi Alberto,

Did you receive my email containing this phrase:

Ooooh, my many ......

It seems that something went a bit wrong between our servers.



*********************************************************************

Joey Valenciano               WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, 
joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph     sitarist 
tel. (632) 921-26-75
Metro-Manila, Philippines

            "The more you know, the more you don't know."

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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 00:35:33 +0800
From: Joey Valenciano <joeyval@philonline.com.ph>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: WWI WWW Page on CD?
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980204003533.006cab38@philonline.com.ph>

Allan,

Did you get my 2 emails w/ several attachments, some of them were the
Dragondiles in revised format? I sent them some weeks ago.

Please let me know....


*********************************************************************

Joey Valenciano               WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, 
joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph     sitarist 
tel. (632) 921-26-75
Metro-Manila, Philippines

            "The more you know, the more you don't know."

*********************************************************************


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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 10:57:38 -0600
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Loz colours - was NEW FSM
Message-ID: <34D74C81.70A9@bellsouth.net>

Don Rinker wrote:
> 
> Sandy Adam wrote:
> 
> > I was watching a glider against a beautiful red winter sunset on Sunday and
> > the reflections under the wings were a fabulous luminous pink colour - I
> > wished at the time that I were a good enough artist to capture the effect
> > and considered what such a sun would have done to a silver Nieuport ...
> 
> Scale Judge: Hmmm what the hell is this? a dayglo pink Nieuport ????
> 
> Sandy : Ohh judgie, I was attempting to portray the glowing effect of a
>         late evening sunset on silver wings
> 
> Judge:  Security, get this nutcake out of here...
> 
> Sandy :   What about my early morning purple Fokker ??
> 
> Whammm, Bappp.... , Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhh.

That's funny.

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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:12:45 EST
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Meikraft-Staggerwing
Message-ID: <f04d76a2.34d75010@aol.com>

In a message dated 98-02-03 11:23:26 EST, you write:

<< I like Staggerwings so much, I guess.
 Brian
  >>
A bit off topic, but it's good to know I'm not alone- a truly nifty machine!
Robert

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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 10:35:16 -0700
From: Charles Hart <hartc@spot.colorado.edu>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Meikraft-Staggerwing
Message-ID: <l03102804b0fd04a1a3ee@[128.138.153.98]>

>In a message dated 98-02-03 11:23:26 EST, you write:
>
><< I like Staggerwings so much, I guess.
> Brian
>  >>
>A bit off topic, but it's good to know I'm not alone- a truly nifty machine!
>Robert

    Straying frighteningly further off topic, has anyone ever seen one of
the Meikraft Staggerwing kits ?  Allegedly there was also a Merlin
Staggerwing kit, back in the days when Merlin kits were only marginally
crude instead of their extremely crude current standard.   I had sort of
figured that the master for both of these kits had been a Czech resin, but
I've never seen one of these either.  Is this just a figment of imagination
or is there some grain of reality in this ?

Any help appreciated.

Charles

hartc@spot.colorado.edu



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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:12:46 EST
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Loz colours - was NEW FSM
Message-ID: <baae8c22.34d75010@aol.com>

In a message dated 98-02-03 06:26:50 EST, you write:

<< I must admit my crediblity is stretched too
 far by the wallpaper you get in DML kits, but I don't know where you draw
 the line -  >>

Hmmm....lozenge wallpaper.... 
Robert

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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:49:18 EST
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Meikraft-Staggerwing
Message-ID: <b39d7b7.34d758a1@aol.com>

In a message dated 98-02-03 12:32:49 EST, you write:

<< Straying frighteningly further off topic, has anyone ever seen one of
 the Meikraft Staggerwing kits ?  Allegedly there was also a Merlin
 Staggerwing kit, back in the days when Merlin kits were only marginally >>

I want Ertl to re-re-release the old AMT 1/48 Staggerwing.That thing even had
stitching on the wings that was in scale.
Robert

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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 11:49:17 -0600
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Loz colours - was NEW FSM
Message-ID: <34D7589D.6679@bellsouth.net>

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I don't have strong views on it either way. All I'm saying is; if
> the modeller has done some research and made his model according to his
> findings then we should respect his beliefs, even if we might make it
> differently ourselves.
> 
Thank you. Case in point is my Udet DML D-VII with Aeromaster underside
lozenge on the top and Superscale underside on the bottom.
http://www.xnet.com/~tmblweed/D7model.html When researching it, I could
only find about 4 images of it in my small library. Three of them were
color drawings and one was a b/w photo and none of them mathched. So I
based my model on the drawings in the old "Color Profiles of WWI A/C"
book. It may not be accurate but it sure is pretty.> >
venting completed

Ernest

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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 11:53:02 -0600
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Loz colours - was NEW FSM
Message-ID: <34D7597E.1B0B@bellsouth.net>

KarrArt@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 98-02-03 06:26:50 EST, you write:
> 
> << I must admit my crediblity is stretched too
>  far by the wallpaper you get in DML kits, but I don't know where you draw
>  the line -  >>
> 
> Hmmm....lozenge wallpaper....
> Robert

Might be a little extreme. Try lozenge curtains first.

E.

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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 10:42:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Patrick Padovan <ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi>
Subject: BUTTONS: THANKS JOHN!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980203104028.4678A-100000@timber20.timberland.lib.wa.us>

Just a quick note to say that I received my buttons today, and they look
great! Thanks, John! Fantastic job. Let me know how I can repay you for
your work, effort, and postage.
                                                       Regards, Patrick

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Patrick Padovan
Interlibrary Loan Associate    
             
Timberland Regional Library     Voice:   360-943-5001   
415 Airdustrial Way SW            FAX:   360-586-6838
Olympia, WA  98501-5799        e-mail:   ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us
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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 98  13:47:02 EST
From: Brian Nicklas <NASAD003@SIVM.SI.EDU>
To: <wwi>
Subject: Re: Meikraft-Staggerwing
Message-ID: <199802031850.NAA06149@pease1.sr.unh.edu>

Charles,
I have the Meikraft Staggerwing, as I said, I looked forward to
it so much that perhaps it's flaws are somewhat smaller to my eyes.
But the fit is poor, the detail stinks, and the decal (American Embassy
markings) are very poor.  I've not seen a Czech resin, so if this is
based upon one, I wouldn't know.
Compared to other Meikrafts, I'd say the W-29 is better, the Pfalz
is much better.
But I do appreciate the effort.
Maybe Eduard or Hasegawa will oneday produce a Staggerwing.
And I'd like to see the AMT kit surface again myself!
Robert, I also love Dragon Rapides, maybe both of these
remind us of WWI aircraft, with a "modern" flavor.
Brian


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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 14:08:44 EST
From: KarrArt@aol.com
To: wwi
Subject: Re: BUTTONS: THANKS JOHN!
Message-ID: <646d8e70.34d76b3e@aol.com>

In a message dated 98-02-03 13:37:19 EST, you write:

<< Thanks, John! Fantastic job. Let me know how I can repay you for
 your work, effort, and postage.
                                                        Regards, Patrick >>
Ditto!
Robert

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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 14:35:00 -0600
From: REATON@ccmail.dsccc.com
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi>, Brian <NASAD003@SIVM.SI.EDU>
Subject: Re[2]: Meikraft
Message-ID: <001E2F90.3370@ccmail.dsccc.com>

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Gee Whiz,
I thought the D.II was rough, but not really BAD.
The W-29 struck me as much better, so much so that I don't plan
on getting the Pegasus or MPM kit, I think the W-29 looks fine.
My Pfalz D.III has a real rough texture, like sandpaper, so I wouldn't
rate it all that much higher then the others.  But it has a nice decal.
The roughest I have is their Douglas D-558-I, good shape, but detail
of small parts is horrible.  And the Beech Staggerwing is disappointing,
partly because I like Staggerwings so much, I guess.
Brian

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     I have to second Brian's vote on the Meikraft W-29. It built up well 
     and with a few extra improvements is a good representation. I also 
     will not go after the newer kits. (at least for now) The Alb CIII was 
     a good kit (even without the crock on one side) The Dornier D1? was a 
     clean build as well. 
     
     I wish Meikraft would get his act together again. He did some good 
     work there for a while. Not the most refined kits in the world but 
     unusual selection and worth the extra effort to clean up in most 
     cases. I believe I read on this list that he had a bad car accident 
     some time back  My local hobby shop says they still here from him, but 
     god knows when he will produce again. Anyone heard anything more about 
     this guys health? 
     
     Regards,
     Richard


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Author:  Brian <NASAD003@SIVM.SI.EDU> at smtplink
Date:    2/3/98 11:25 AM


Gee Whiz,
I thought the D.II was rough, but not really BAD.
The W-29 struck me as much better, so much so that I don't plan 
on getting the Pegasus or MPM kit, I think the W-29 looks fine.
My Pfalz D.III has a real rough texture, like sandpaper, so I wouldn't 
rate it all that much higher then the others.  But it has a nice decal. 
The roughest I have is their Douglas D-558-I, good shape, but detail
of small parts is horrible.  And the Beech Staggerwing is disappointing, 
partly because I like Staggerwings so much, I guess.
Brian
     
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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 15:49:40 -0500
From: "Jim Lyzun" <aero@baynet.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Staggerwing
Message-ID: <34D782E4.6672@baynet.net>

> I want Ertl to re-re-release the old AMT 1/48 Staggerwing.That thing even had
> stitching on the wings that was in scale.
> Robert

Glencoe has announced it will rerelease the old ITC(?) 1/48 Staggerwing
this Spring.

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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:02:03 -0600
From: "Bittner, Matthew (KTR) ~U" <BITTNERM@stratcom.af.mil>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi>
Subject: Off topic
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=USSTRATCOM%l=J2-J5HUB-U-980203210203Z-2251@emshub-u.stratcom.af.mil>

Not to toot our own horn, or anything, but for those with an interest,
Erik P. and I have created a web site devoted to WW2 VVS modeling.
Check out:

http://www.oz.net/~xopowo/VVS/vvs.htm


Matt Bittner


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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:15:09 +0000
From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" <pschwartzkopf@transcrypt.com>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Staggerwing
Message-ID: <199802032116.PAA27929@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com>

> > I want Ertl to re-re-release the old AMT 1/48 Staggerwing.That thing even had
> > stitching on the wings that was in scale.
> > Robert

The AMT kit was available a few years ago under the ESCI label.
 
> Glencoe has announced it will rerelease the old ITC(?) 1/48 Staggerwing
> this Spring.
 
If I am not mistaken, the ITC Staggerwing was 1/32 scale.
 

Paul A. Schwartzkopf

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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 13:22:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Patrick Padovan <ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Aerocam: PC-10, etc.
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980203131222.4678D-100000@timber20.timberland.lib.wa.us>

Dear Sandy: sorry to hear the Aerocam is OOB, but I kind of suspected as
much. A shame, really, as I find the paint quite excellent to use, with
good adhesion provided its left to dry properly. I have their PC-10A,
NIVO, PC-12, and CDL, and while I can't vouch for the accuracy of the
colors in regards to any other paints, they do look quite well on models,
and certainly seem to me to be well within the range of tone and values
for the colors they are meant to represent. I purchased my PC-10A back in
1989, and I'm still using it today. (15 ML goes a long way on 1/72nd scale
a/c. . . probably also a comment on how many a/c I actually get around to
building & painting in a year, as well!) In any event, it brushes and
air-brushes quite well, thinned with ordinary enamel thinner. Too bad. .
.I would have liked the option of obtaining more of this paint in the
future, and its always a shame when a business specifically aimed at the
WWI modeller goes bust!  
                                                  Regards, Patrick
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Patrick Padovan
Interlibrary Loan Associate    
             
Timberland Regional Library     Voice:   360-943-5001   
415 Airdustrial Way SW            FAX:   360-586-6838
Olympia, WA  98501-5799        e-mail:   ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us
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