WWI Digest 876 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS by "Randy J. Ray" 2) Aerocam: PC-10, etc. by Patrick Padovan 3) Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS by Charles Hart 4) Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS by Patrick Padovan 5) Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS by KarrArt@aol.com 6) Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS by Charles Hart 7) Re[2]: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS by REATON@ccmail.dsccc.com 8) RE: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " by Shane Weier 9) Re: Macchi M5 by Alberto Rada 10) Off for a week by Pedro Nuno Soares 11) Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS by KarrArt@aol.com 12) Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " by "David R.L. Laws" 13) Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " by "David R.L. Laws" 14) Re: Edmund Thieffrey by Bob Pearson 15) Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS by Bob Pearson 16) Re: Aerocam: PC-10, etc. by "Sandy Adam" 17) Re: Meikraft Models by "Sandy Adam" 18) Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " by mbittner@juno.com 19) Meikraft by Carlos Valdes 20) "Greatest Camel Ace" by REwing@aol.com 21) Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS by mbittner@juno.com 22) Re: "Greatest Camel Ace" by KarrArt@aol.com 23) RE: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS by Shane Weier 24) Re: not forgetful! by KarrArt@aol.com 25) Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS by KarrArt@aol.com 26) Re: "Greatest Camel Ace" by Bob Pearson 27) Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " by Bob Pearson 28) Re: Aerocam: PC-10, etc. by "Gillian & Ray Boorman" 29) Re: 1/48 Glencoe OEFFAG by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 30) Re: Meikraft by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley Barrett) 31) Re: Edmund Thieffrey by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 11:45:40 -0800 From: "Randy J. Ray" To: wwi Subject: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS Message-ID: <199802021945.AA285718740@i2496bs1.nafohq.hp.com> >>>>> "Patrick" == Patrick Padovan >>>>> wrote the following on Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:59:27 -0500 Patrick> Greetings: I find it interesting that the most recent issue Patrick> of FSM contains a full-page color advertisment for Patrick> Rimmell's Albatross Productions (i.e. Windsock, Data Files, Patrick> etc.) Reaching out to WWI enthusiasts who may be unfamiliar Patrick> with these products, I suppose. Goodness knows that most readers of FSM *would* be unfamiliar with the subject metter, as there is such a dearth of it presented in FSM, in general... Randy -- """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Randy J. Ray 408-343-7578 randyr@nafohq.hp.com "Reach up your hand, if your cup be empty/If your cup is full, may it be again" --Grateful Dead, "Ripple" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 12:16:55 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Aerocam: PC-10, etc. Message-ID: Dear Paul, Bob, Ray, Vedran and anyone else who's interested: I dug through my back issues of WS, and came up with the following, re Aerocam paints: Aerocam, 26 Broom Hill, Stoke Poges, Buckinghampshire, U.K., SL2 4PU. I've no idea if this address is still a going concern, or wether or not Aerocam still exists. I found 4 articles by Ian Huntley which appeared in the "Fabric" section of WS, and each was tied in to the Aerocam paint which supposedly "matched" the color being described. The articles were: PC-10A, Vol.5 No.4, Winter 1989, pg.22/ CDL, Vol.6 No.4, Jul-Aug 1990, pg.18/ PC-12, Vol.7 No.3, May-jun 1991, pg.2/ NIVO, Vol.8 No.2, Mar-Apr 1992, pg.14. Note: Ivan: these articles may or may not be helpful to you in creating your color chips. I'd be happy to copy and send them to you, if you like. Let me know, and send me your mailing address, if you are interested. Also, lest I be or have been misunderstood at some point re these paints: I've included a lot of caveats already, but let me add one more: I make no claims at to the accuracy of these colors, etc., I'm just reporting what was said about them by others, etc. They go on well, and they look good to me, and that's all I'm saying or have said. (Lest anyone think I'm trying to play "Color Policeman" here. Didn't, haven't, won't. Okay?) Regards, Patrick -------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 13:37:17 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS Message-ID: Anyone seen the German Lozenge article in newest FSM ? I understand it is a real groaner. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 12:41:45 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS Message-ID: Greetings: I forgot to mention that the curent issue also has an article on applying lozenge (which I haven't yet read.) I was wondering if the author of said article is one the list? Anybody read the article yet, and have any opinions to share? Regards, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Randy J. Ray wrote: > >>>>> "Patrick" == Patrick Padovan > >>>>> wrote the following on Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:59:27 -0500 > > Patrick> Greetings: I find it interesting that the most recent issue > Patrick> of FSM contains a full-page color advertisment for > Patrick> Rimmell's Albatross Productions (i.e. Windsock, Data Files, > Patrick> etc.) Reaching out to WWI enthusiasts who may be unfamiliar > Patrick> with these products, I suppose. > > Goodness knows that most readers of FSM *would* be unfamiliar with the > subject metter, as there is such a dearth of it presented in FSM, in > general... > > Randy > -- > """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > Randy J. Ray 408-343-7578 > randyr@nafohq.hp.com > "Reach up your hand, if your cup be empty/If your cup is full, may it be again" > --Grateful Dead, "Ripple" > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 15:21:00 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS Message-ID: In a message dated 98-02-02 14:46:40 EST, you write: << Goodness knows that most readers of FSM *would* be unfamiliar with the subject metter, as there is such a dearth of it presented in FSM, in general... Randy >> The cure may be for guys like us to ACTUALLY GET OFF OUR BUTTS , write an article and submit it.On several ocassions Bob Hayden has written about people requesting articles on this subject or that and his resonse has been that they can only print what is submitted- so- think about some WW I project, ask FSM if they're interested and go for it.You won't get rich, but the pay is not too bad.Many years ago I did an article about how I built my nose-art girls using the B-25 girl "Mitch the Witch" as an example and I think I got a couple hundred bucks! A long article is worth the trouble! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 14:09:57 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS Message-ID: >In a message dated 98-02-02 14:46:40 EST, you write: > ><< Goodness knows that most readers of FSM *would* be unfamiliar with the > subject metter, as there is such a dearth of it presented in FSM, in > general... > > Randy >> >The cure may be for guys like us to ACTUALLY GET OFF OUR BUTTS , write an >article and submit it.On several ocassions Bob Hayden has written about people >requesting articles on this subject or that and his resonse has been that they >can only print what is submitted- so- think about some WW I project, ask FSM >if they're interested and go for it.You won't get rich, but the pay is not too >bad.Many years ago I did an article about how I built my nose-art girls using >the B-25 girl "Mitch the Witch" as an example and I think I got a couple >hundred bucks! A long article is worth the trouble! >Robert I rememer this piece. Good work. I thought it was "Joltin' Josie" or some such. I know someone who had a piece accepted over three years ago and it has yet to see print. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 15:23:33 -0600 From: REATON@ccmail.dsccc.com To: Multiple recipients of list , Charles Hart Subject: Re[2]: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS Message-ID: <001E0B08.3370@ccmail.dsccc.com> --IMA.Boundary.707454688 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Anyone seen the German Lozenge article in newest FSM ? I understand it is a real groaner. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu --IMA.Boundary.707454688 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Charles and all, I read the lozenge article the other day. It seems to be complete as compared with information on the site. There are excessive "wait states" in between applications and steps. 48 hours in most cases. I'm sure the authors results would be good but it would take weeks to cover a 1/72 bird following his recomendations. The sources given were very complete. Anyway it is nice to see FSM spend some ink on a subject that is near and dear.I don't know if the author is a list member. I don't think so. Regards, Richard ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS Author: Charles Hart at smtplink Date: 2/2/98 3:36 PM Anyone seen the German Lozenge article in newest FSM ? I understand it is a real groaner. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu --IMA.Boundary.707454688-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 06:26:30 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: wwi Subject: RE: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " Message-ID: <199802022136.HAA01822@mimmon.mim.com.au> Charles answers: > I think that the "PUT BUS" kit was a Phoenix/Blue Rider release of 6 or >so years ago. Can't remember exactly since I've never seen one. Kits from >this producer are now pretty scarce to come by. Phoenix. Reviewed in the May 91 issue of Windsock Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 17:39:00 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Macchi M5 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980202173900.006ebb8c@pop.true.net> Hi Ira this is a set of 40 plans done by the Centro Documentazione Storica ( Historic Documentation Center ) of Aermacchi that gracefully sent me Franco Poloni , I am an old pilot and a so and so modeler, but up to my knowledge I would say you could, why ? you interested in the complete bunch ? SALUDOS Alberto At 11:35 PM 01-02-98 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Alberto! > > The Macchi M5 plans you mention--are these the ones available through WWI >AERO? I have often thought of getting them. Do they look fairly complete, >from the standpoint of building a 1/1, as far as you can tell? Thanks for any >comments . . . > >Have Fun!! > >IRA > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 22:17:20 +0100 From: Pedro Nuno Soares To: "'ww1 modeling list'" Subject: Off for a week Message-ID: <01BD3028.652B3F00@fei1-p13.telepac.pt> Hi guys I'll be unsubscribing now. Time has come to go to Old Albion. See you all soon. Happy modeling Um abraco Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 17:17:59 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS Message-ID: In a message dated 98-02-02 16:07:10 EST, you write: << I rememer this piece. Good work. I thought it was "Joltin' Josie" or some such. I know someone who had a piece accepted over three years ago and it has yet to see print. Charles >> "Joltin' Josie" was the surprise of the ages- I submtted her to Readers Gallery one December Day and a couple of months later they sent me the new issue with her as the "cover girl"! That may be a record for quick acceptance.(BTW- cover shots get more money). There's no guarantee about when and if they'll publish.It's been years since I wrote anything, but Readers Gallery submissions can take forever.My recent BE2 was sent in at least a year and a half before publication- I had forgotten about it. Anyway- you never know how it will turn out unless you give a try! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 09:39:10 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi Subject: Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " Message-ID: <34D6E5BE.446E@webtime.com.au> I wrote " BTW Still chasing a copy of the Harleyford Marine book - It's a hard one to find !!! If anyone's looking to sell a copy, PLEASE let me know !! > > REGARDS DAVID Sandy Adam wrote: > I know where there is (was?) a copy in the UK for 70GBP which is probably > the going rate (although it seems a bit high to me). They accepy credit cards etc. If you want it, drop me a note off-list and I can phone them for you to make sure its still there. > > Thanks Sandy, I'm obliged to you but the price way too rich for my blood REGARDS DAVID R.L. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 09:41:49 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi Subject: Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " Message-ID: <34D6E65D.1993@webtime.com.au> MATT, Might I impose on you for a copy of the 3 view If you can scan into JPEG we could save the post but will send SAE if you wish Thanks DaAVID R.L. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 15:44:37 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Edmund Thieffrey Message-ID: <23443767699073@KAIEN.COM> Paul, I have done a profile of this aircraft if you want a copy. The upper surfaces are in dark green with the fuselge sides and lower surfaces in aluminum. The wheel covers are white with a red stripe through the centre, the same marking (white disc, red stripe) appears on the turtleback. regards, Bob Pearson ---------- > From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Edmund Thieffrey > Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 13:26:43 -0500 > > Would anyone happen to have any info (3-views, colors, etc.) on the > Nie 17 flown by Belgian ace Edmund Thieffrey? I have one photo that > shows the Comet insignia of No. 1 Squadron, Belgian Air Service, on > the side of this aircraft, with what appears to be a "cross" (?) on > the upper fuselage behind the cockpit. TIA. > > Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 15:47:42 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS Message-ID: <23474236199081@KAIEN.COM> > .Many years ago I did an article about how I built my nose-art girls using > the B-25 girl "Mitch the Witch" as an example and I think I got a couple > hundred bucks! A long article is worth the trouble! > Robert That was yours? Cool ! ! ! ! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 00:20:20 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Aerocam: PC-10, etc. Message-ID: <199802030019.AAA15049@beryl.sol.co.uk> > Dear Paul, Bob, Ray, Vedran and anyone else who's interested: I dug > through my back issues of WS, and came up with the following, re Aerocam > paints: Aerocam, 26 Broom Hill, Stoke Poges, Buckinghampshire, U.K., SL2 > 4PU. I've no idea if this address is still a going concern, or wether or > not Aerocam still exists. Hi Patrick - I'm sure I read somewhere that Aerocam went bust. Shame, I would have liked to try them - please let us know what the results are like. FWIW I usually mix my own but think the best out-of-a-tin is the Xtracolour that somebody else has already mentioned. This is marketed by Hannants and available from them worldwide - but beware the minimum order levels! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 00:14:11 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Meikraft Models Message-ID: <199802030019.AAA15044@beryl.sol.co.uk> Well this has been an interesting thread. Some of you may remember I posted a question a few month's ago asking who would buy a 1/48 Caproni. This was instigated by a phone call out of the blue from John Meikrantz, who had my name from Mike Eacock at Skybirds - quite why he phoned me in Scotland from Texas for a half-hour blether I have no idea! Especially as I said quite clearly from the start that I knew nothing about 1/72 trends etc. Anyway he asked me to pose the question, who would buy the big Ca if he made it, but asked me not to say who the question came from - he said something about other folks in Texas that would bad-mouth him if they knew the source! I have been keeping shtum as requested until this last bit, but think my loyalties are to you helpful and stimulating people more than to Mr Meikraft. Besides he was supposed to phone me back to announce if he was going to build it but never did. (This probably doesn't surprise quite a few of you.) He sounded OK and I don't think he had any grand scam in mind - probably more of a dreamer than a dissembler, but I'm sure he could find somebody to talk to nearer home! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 18:39:21 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " Message-ID: <19980202.183944.5022.6.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 2 Feb 1998 11:00:38 -0500 "David R.L. Laws" writes: >Courtesy of Shane Weier's Windsock collection c. Vol 7 (Thanks again >Shane !! ) I recently came accross this rather dog-ugly all metal >float plane - Has anyone ever seen 1/ 72 or 1/48 Plans for this little >horror? Looks like an entertaining project. I only have the following in my database: Air Enthusiast #33, which includes some sort of line drawings Windsock Vol 7 No 3 HTH. Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:00:45 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Meikraft Message-ID: <34D23F7D.72C3@conted.gatech.edu> Speaking of the devil, I just found this post on RMS and thought I'd pass it along: Subject: Meikraft Kits Date: 3 Feb 1998 00:23:47 GMT From: maiesm72@aol.com (Maiesm72) Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: rec.models.scale I could not beleive my eyes when I opened the third box of the collection that I just bought. Thirty-five Meikraft kits, the company that I provided research and instruction sheets for until they got to the point of absurdity in breaking promises. (I gave the guy the nickname "Texas Chainsaw Modeler"). Here is what is available, all 1/72 unless otherwise noted): 2x SB2U Vindicator 1x H.B.W.29 1x P-35 4x Albatros D.I/II 2x Grumman FF-1 4x BE.2c 7x Pfalz D.III/D.IIIa 2x Albatros C.III 2x Dornier D.I 1x Spad 13C.1 1x Siemens-Schuckert D.I 5x Link Trainers 2x SB2U Vindicator 1/48 1x Pfalz D.III/D.IIIa no box,decals,instructions As with the other items mentioned I'll entertain offers until Friday,2/6/98, then they go to Milpitas. Offers for single, multiple or complete batch. Tom Young IPMS #3406 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 19:54:50 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi Subject: "Greatest Camel Ace" Message-ID: <747b5b8a.34d66adc@aol.com> Just received the March 1998 issue of Military History today and there is an article about Donald MacLaren in it. Have yet to read it, but it looks interesting. I never heard of this Canadian Ace before, and he had 54 "kills" to his credit. -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 18:23:39 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS Message-ID: <19980202.183944.5022.3.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 2 Feb 1998 15:37:03 -0500 Charles Hart writes: >Anyone seen the German Lozenge article in newest FSM ? I understand >it is a real groaner. The biggest problem I have is the paragraph: "Although the decal colors differ radically among manufacturers, the patterns are accurate. Modelers shouldn't worry much about which decals they choose." Ok, then what the author is telling me is that the lozenge that comes with the Eduard kits is fine to use? Granted, he does specifically mention the best (Aeromaster; Almark; Americal; Pegasus; and Superscale), but it's been my *opinion* that Superscale and Aeromaster are the worse in that lot. The colors of especially the Americal and Pegasus *appear to me* to be closest. (Notice my emphasis on my words.) Yes, Shane? Sandy? I do agree that there would have been fading and the loss of color, but as dramatic a shift of color as some of these decals are? Hmmm... The two best parts of the article are: (1) the author builds in 1/72nd, and (2) he chooses an unusual subject to show his technique; the Fokker D.VI. Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 20:52:05 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: "Greatest Camel Ace" Message-ID: In a message dated 98-02-02 20:18:30 EST, you write: << Donald MacLaren in it. Have yet to read it, but it looks interesting. I never heard of this Canadian Ace before, and he had 54 "kills" to his credit. -Rick- >> I believe he was interviewed in that hideous Richthofen documentary that was made, oh, it must be 12-15 years ago( NOT the A&E "Biography" episode about vR).This show used to pop up from time to time on cable. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:35:00 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: wwi Subject: RE: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS Message-ID: <199802030246.MAA03472@mimmon.mim.com.au> Matt, >Yes, Shane? Sandy? I do agree that there would have been fading and the >loss of color, but as dramatic a shift of color as some of these decals >are? Hmmm... Whoa !! Read the last part of my last message on this subject. And think back (or search over) earlier postings on loz. I *am not* a pedant, and can't stand people making unequivocal statements about this subject, but I certainly do care what loz I put on my models, and I certainly do have a personal opinion of what is closest to "correct". Indeed, I have posted here previously saying that the Superscale/Microscale loz I have owned is _in_my_opinion_ *absolute crap*, because a) It varies so widely from print run to print run that you can have light blue upper 4 colour and dark green upper 4 colour on the same plane - or toss half of every sheet out b) most of the sheets I've had, or seen, bear no relationship whatever with any sample of presumed real fabric (or certified real fabric) that I ever saw, nor in fact, could represent any fabric I ever saw photographed in B&W, whether with ortho or panchro film. BUT.... People will use the stuff - I have - and I for one can't satisfactorily prove it's wrong. I'd still say to folk that I prefer A/G , and will use Aeromaster 5 colour - but no more than that, Regards Shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:26:01 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: not forgetful! Message-ID: <5d02ce61.34d6803c@aol.com> In a message dated 98-02-01 18:44:09 EST, you write: << KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > The basic 0/400 fuselage is framed out of HO RailRoad scale 2x2 lumber. This works out almost perfectly for a scale 1/48 frame ROBERT, You fellas in the states are spoiled- What size is this HO scale railway timber and do you know what sort of wood is used by the manufacturers - For the Old Hardies who have to cut their own - I use 3 ply, a steel ruler and hobby knife to cut strips fromthe pine facing material, these are then gentley separated from the adjacent ply with a knife ..all internal detail added..then Fishingline bracing - then a skin of ..015 plastic. I"LL CHIP IN WITH A WRINKLE ( CREDIT TO ROBERT FOR THE INSPIRATION - IF YOU USE CLEAR INSTEAD OF WHITE ( OPAQUE ) FOR THE SKIN WHERE YOU ARE SEEKING TO EMULATE CDL, THE SLIGHTLY "SEE THROUGH " RESULTS ARE QUITE PLEASING ( ROBERT USED SOLID CLEAR FOR THE WINGS ON HIS BE 2 ) Shirt box lids can be a good scource of the clear plastic - but check the plastic used for the lids first !! The infamous Gotha had wings made the old fashioned way with dope-and-tissue over ribs and spars. ROBERT, IS THE GOTHA STILL IN " AS CRASHED " CONDITION ? REGARDS DAVID>> This precut scale "lumber" is found in most model railroad shops and it's bass wood, and usually a pretty good strong grade. It can be made even stronger by the application of superglue- this stuff kinda "capilaries" into the grain and makes it quite sturdy.BUT I have spent my time hand slicing strips out of thin birch ply! Much of the Gotha detail work was made from this. The 0/400 will have .015 white palstic skin.A disturbing pattern that shows up in H-Ps more than wrinkles is cracking.This almost looks like the spidery shatters in old laquer work. I'm pleased to say the Gotha has been restored to it's former self and is quite hale and hearty- it thanks you for asking! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:25:56 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: NEW FSM: ALBATROSS PRODUCTIONS Message-ID: <7edd4c4a.34d68036@aol.com> In a message dated 98-02-02 18:46:53 EST, you write: << > .Many years ago I did an article about how I built my nose-art girls using > the B-25 girl "Mitch the Witch" as an example and I think I got a couple > hundred bucks! A long article is worth the trouble! > Robert That was yours? Cool ! ! ! ! >> Yep! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 19:03:41 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: "Greatest Camel Ace" Message-ID: <03034172099603@KAIEN.COM> Rick, For a further insight into MacLaren, read VM Yeates Winged Victory, although a novel it does have a character based on Yeates former flight commander named *Mac* - yes it was MacLaren that Mac was based on, and when MacLaren was asked about it, he never denied that he was Mac. Regards, Bob Pearson ---------- > From: REwing@aol.com > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: "Greatest Camel Ace" > Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 20:16:48 -0500 > > Just received the March 1998 issue of Military History today and there is > an article about Donald MacLaren in it. Have yet to read it, but it looks > interesting. I never heard of this Canadian Ace before, and he had 54 "kills" > to his credit. > > -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 19:03:51 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " Message-ID: <03035115499604@KAIEN.COM> David, There is a tiny GA and article in WW1 Aero #119:30 regards, Bob Pearson ---------- > From: "David R.L. Laws" > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " > Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 11:00:38 -0500 > > Courtesy of Shane Weier's Windsock collection c. Vol 7 (Thanks again > Shane !! ) I recently came accross this rather dog-ugly all metal float > plane - Has anyone ever seen 1/ 72 or 1/48 Plans for this little horror > ? Looks like an entertaining project. > > Just getting out the solder and filling the butane torch now in the hope > someone might oblige ! > > REGARDS TO ALL > > DAVID R.L. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 18:59:18 -0800 From: "Gillian & Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Aerocam: PC-10, etc. Message-ID: <008e01bd304f$c1cc8e40$6010c2cf@rayboorm> Patrick, Thanks for going the extra yard for the info. I wish some of the people I work with were like the members of this list :-) . Ray Boorman (Gillian_Boorman@bc.sympatico.ca) -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, February 02, 1998 12:16 PM Subject: Aerocam: PC-10, etc. > Dear Paul, Bob, Ray, Vedran and anyone else who's interested: I dug lots snipped ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 19:39:43 -0800 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/48 Glencoe OEFFAG Message-ID: <34D6917F.961@ricochet.net> Ernest Thomas wrote: > Btw I think Riordan has the decal sheet from the oeffag. That's a fact,and since I've acquired the lovely Blue Rider A-H sheet the Glencoe example is up for swap. Cheers, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 00:21:41 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley Barrett) To: wwi Subject: Re: Meikraft Message-ID: Carlos broke the news on the following: > >Here is what is available, all 1/72 unless otherwise noted): >4x BE.2c Has anybody seen the Meikraft BE2c? Is it on the really bad side of the Meikraft scale (Alb DII), or the good side (Pfalz DIII)? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 20:26:07 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Edmund Thieffrey Message-ID: <199802030426.AA13121@ednet1.orednet.org> Paul writes: > >Would anyone happen to have any info (3-views, colors, etc.) on the >Nie 17 flown by Belgian ace Edmund Thieffrey? I have one photo that >shows the Comet insignia of No. 1 Squadron, Belgian Air Service, on >the side of this aircraft, with what appears to be a "cross" (?) on >the upper fuselage behind the cockpit. TIA. It looks to me like a white circle with a colored "bar" through it. I don't know hat the significance of this particular marking might be. So far as I'm aware, that is the only photo of that particular aircraft. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "If you can see the tracers, the little piss-ants have missed you." Chief Warrant Officer Emet "Stoney" Parker ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 876 *********************