WWI Digest 875 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Shameless plug by Bob Pearson 2) Re: AMT DH-4 by Hirohisa Ozaki 3) George Cronin Has Passed Away by ilyam@pipeline.com (Carl J. Bobrow) 4) Re: RB.1 (was OFF TOPIC - HELLCATS FLIGHT SIM) by "David R.L. Laws" 5) Re: AMT DH-4 by Ernest Thomas 6) Re: Macchi M5 by TPTPUMPER@aol.com 7) Re: AMT DH-4 by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 8) Re: New Kilduff book by Bill Bacon 9) Re: Airframe kits by Graham Nash 10) Re: Shameless plug by mbittner@juno.com 11) 1/48 Glencoe OEFFAG by vedrank@pro1.sjever.fsb.hr (Vedran Kalamiza) 12) Re: 1/48 Glencoe OEFFAG by TPTPUMPER@aol.com 13) Re: Reference numbers by fedders 14) Re: DH-4 by Matthew Zivich 15) Re: 1/48 Glencoe OEFFAG by Ernest Thomas 16) Re: 1/48 Glencoe OEFFAG by Matthew Zivich 17) Re: Sierra news... by fedders 18) Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " by "David R.L. Laws" 19) Re: DH-4 by Ernest Thomas 20) Re: 1/48 Glencoe OEFFAG by Charles Hart 21) Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " by Charles Hart 22) Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " by "David R.L. Laws" 23) Re: 1/48 Glencoe OEFFAG by Ernest Thomas 24) Re: Reference numbers by "Sandy Adam" 25) Re: Meikraft Models by Charles Stephanian 26) Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " by "Sandy Adam" 27) Bound volumes of Profiles by "Sandy Adam" 28) Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " by Matthew Zivich 29) Edmund Thieffrey by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 30) Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " by Charles Hart 31) Re: Meikraft Models by Brian 32) Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " by Matthew Zivich ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 19:46:42 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: Shameless plug Message-ID: <03464247497091@KAIEN.COM> Robert, Thanks for the comment about EYN. This is the first computer profile that I have completed - although the next FMP books will be done the same way - and is of the only aircraft I have been fortunate enough to be allowed to fly (45 minutes on a trip to the Queen Charlotte islands . . it was single control and we traded seats). Regards, Bob Pearson ---------- > From: KarrArt@aol.com > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Shameless plug > Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 22:29:10 -0500 > > In a message dated 98-02-01 15:18:28 EST, you write: > > << February Aviation What-Not > http://www.willapabay.org/~herper/aviation > > OK, I admit that this month there is no WWI content, but the February > Aviation What-Not does feature a very nice profile of a Beaver by Bob > Pearson, resident list resider (is that redundant?) At any rate, I am > looking to increase the content of my site and would love to have some WWI > stuff, so take a look, admire the work, glean facts from the information, > and then send me an article for the March issue! Thanks, and now back to > the discussions already in progress. > > Chris Banyai-Riepl > . >> > Yes! Another fine effort and another shameless plug- check the illustration at > the top of the links page...oh yeah- Chris- you've got a dead-picture red "x" > where the links thingy should be! > Anyway- read the 109 thingy article, 'tain't what you might think.All you WW I > guys- seriously think about Chris' offer to publish your stuff. He does a > first class job. > AND- Bob, NICE BEAVER! > Robert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 98 12:59:20 +0900 From: Hirohisa Ozaki To: wwi Subject: Re: AMT DH-4 Message-ID: <199802020401.NAA02329@zoo.miln.mei.co.jp> Ernest Thomas wrote: >someone　on the list told me it's not much of a DH-4 but a better base for a >DH-9. It has some things I don't like about it, like the external >elevator controls being molded on to the side of the fuselage. I got AMT DH-4 a few days ago. I think that an interval of cockpit and rear gunner's position too close, like DH-9/A. >I'm not gonna get at least one Glenco DH-4. Get the AMT kit if the price >is reasonable. I spent USD18.0. Is it reasonable price? Cheers, Hiro. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 23:10:58 -0500 (EST) From: ilyam@pipeline.com (Carl J. Bobrow) To: wwi Subject: George Cronin Has Passed Away Message-ID: >From: T191418@aol.com >Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 18:05:04 EST >To: ilyam@pipeline.com >Subject: George Cronin Has Passed Away > >Dear Carl, Lou, Tom, et al, > >I regret to report that our dear friend, George Harold Cronin, died in his >sleep yesterday. As you know, George had been ill for many months >but his passing was peaceful. > >George will be buried at Arlington Cemetery on Monday, February 9th. >Services will be held at the Old Chapel at 3PM. George's family has >requested that those wishing, may send a donation to the Hospice of >Northern Virginia in Falls Church, Virginia, in lieu of flowers. I will >forward more information to you when it becomes available. > >Regards, > >Ted Hamady ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 14:32:27 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi Subject: Re: RB.1 (was OFF TOPIC - HELLCATS FLIGHT SIM) Message-ID: <34D5D8FA.1229@webtime.com.au> Bob, Say no more - Will send a with stuffed copy+Stuffit expander Regards DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 22:28:27 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: AMT DH-4 Message-ID: <34D54B6B.4AC1@bellsouth.net> Hirohisa Ozaki wrote: > > Ernest Thomas wrote: > >someone　on the list told me it's not much of a DH-4 but a better base for a > >DH-9. It has some things I don't like about it, like the external > >elevator controls being molded on to the side of the fuselage. > I got AMT DH-4 a few days ago. > I think that an interval of cockpit and rear gunner's position too close, > like DH-9/A. > > >I'm not gonna get at least one Glenco DH-4. Get the AMT kit if the price > >is reasonable. > I spent USD18.0. Is it reasonable price? > > Cheers, Hiro. Hiro, I aquired mine in a swap so I got a hell of a deal(Aroura Fk.E-III & Bristol fighter with the AMT DH-4 in exchange for a 1/32 Matchbox Dauntless). I don't know what the market value is, but I would have paid $18.00 for it. Cheers, Ernest ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 23:27:22 EST From: TPTPUMPER@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Macchi M5 Message-ID: <792994ac.34d54b2c@aol.com> Hi Alberto! The Macchi M5 plans you mention--are these the ones available through WWI AERO? I have often thought of getting them. Do they look fairly complete, from the standpoint of building a 1/1, as far as you can tell? Thanks for any comments . . . Have Fun!! IRA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 20:34:46 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: AMT DH-4 Message-ID: <199802020434.AA20106@ednet1.orednet.org> Hiro writes: >I spent USD18.0. Is it reasonable price? A little high, but not outrageously so. Kit Collectors' Value Guide gives a value range of $12-$17 on this kit so $18 is on the high end of the price range. But, as always, what's reasonable depends on how bad you want it and how badly the seller wants to sell. You certainly didn't get "ripped off". Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "If you can see the tracers, the little piss-ants have missed you." Chief Warrant Officer Emet "Stoney" Parker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 02:39:27 -0600 From: Bill Bacon To: wwi Subject: Re: New Kilduff book Message-ID: <34D5863F.C8CD5A4C@netjava.net> David, Straight out of Squadron's page > WW-ST0266 The Red Baron Combat Wing (HB) $29.95 > Peter Kilduff. Explore Richthofen's charismatic personality, his > daring durning combat, and his abilities as a teacher and squad > leader. Includes rare and previously unpublished photos. 35 B&W > photos, 288 pages, 6x9 Hardbound. > Cheers, Bill B. DavidL1217@aol.com wrote: > Kilduff has a new book!. Tell me more. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 09:08:17 -0800 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: Re: Airframe kits Message-ID: <199802020847.AA11982@egate2.citicorp.com> Bill Shatzer wrote: > Charles writes: > > > John Tarvin, who kept a WW I modeling flame alive during the 1970's > >with his Airframe kits, did a Sopwith Schneider kit I believe. I thought > >that it had parts for the Tabloid as well. > My database indicates that separate kits were issued/to be issued, Baby (circa 1982) Schneider (circa 1979) and Tabloid (circa 1979), but as has been said, I can find no details of kit numbers, so the Schneider and the Tabloid may well be one kit. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 04:59:51 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Shameless plug Message-ID: <19980202.050125.14246.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 1 Feb 1998 22:29:10 -0500 KarrArt@aol.com writes: >AND- Bob, NICE BEAVER! Is there something you want to tell us, Bob? Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 13:33:16 +0100 From: vedrank@pro1.sjever.fsb.hr (Vedran Kalamiza) To: wwi Subject: 1/48 Glencoe OEFFAG Message-ID: <199802021233.NAA04433@pro7.sjever.fsb.hr> Can any of you `older` folks send me a brief rewiew of Glencoe`s 1/48 Albatross OEFFAG.Is it worth buying or should I wait for better kit to come.... Vedran Kalamiza vedrank@sjever.fsb.hr ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 08:53:02 EST From: TPTPUMPER@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/48 Glencoe OEFFAG Message-ID: <65292e9d.34d5cfc1@aol.com> Hi Vedran! > Can any of you `older` folks send me a brief rewiew of Glencoe`s 1/48 > Albatross > OEFFAG.Is it worth buying or should I wait for better kit to come.... > By "older", I'll just take it that you mean I have one of these kits . . . . For $10US retail, it's not the worst, but to make it look much like an Albatros will take considerable work. The fuselage halves look like they belong in separate kits, the overall fit is "not good". Bring lots of putty. My advice would be to wait for the announced Eduard kit of the D.III (will probably be out sometime this year) and convert it to an Oeffag. Unless they decide to release an Oeffag version, which so far has not been announced. In the meantime, may I suggest the Eduard Starstrutter or the Hippo Aviatik Berg D.I? Very nice, both. Or check out Sierra's vac form kits--he carries the Hansa Brandenburg C.I, among others, and his quality is excellent. Have Fun!! IRA Campbell "hopefully" moving this week ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 08:52:57 -0600 (CST) From: fedders To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Reference numbers Message-ID: On Sat, 31 Jan 1998, Sandy Adam wrote: > Hi Peter > I spent a coupla days looking up esoteric refs to try to put some meat on > the bones of Morrow's numbers and, of course last night, looking up > something entirely different, the answers leapt out at me from the most > standard ref of all - Thetford & Gray; German A/c of 1stWW. > > They quote German aircraft numbers for Western Front on 31 March 1918 as > follows: > > Recce & Photo Sections - total 505 > All Front-line Sections- total 1,488 > (Jastas and Schlachtstas - total 755) > > If you have based your surmise on Morrow's numbers, I suggest Gray & > Thetford shows the opposite: 475 scouts against 336 recce planes on the > British Front does not show that the principle aim of the German Air > Service was reconnaisance. Since we know that the scouts were used most of > the time defensively, these figures support Henderson and many others that > the principle aim of the GAS was to knock down allied aircraft. > > The strength of your point about officers making figures suit their case > is, I think, largely anachronistic. Without doubt it has figured strongly > in more recent conflicts where press coverage has helped shape strategy, > but back in 1917 in a private report, Henderson is surely unlikely to have > made such claims - which would actually have damaged his objective. > > (On the other hand, Morrow has obviously made some pretty arbitrary > decisions about what suits his case and what doesn't.) > > Sandy > What you are doing is slamming a noted historian because you don't like his facts. Morrows agenda is pretty much the truth. Your previous notices have pretty much told us what your agenda is. peter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 10:17:37 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Zivich To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: DH-4 Message-ID: Ernest, If it is the old Aurora I'd agree with the other list members who have responded. The interior detail is sketchy at best but presented an interesting challenge to accomplish correctly. Beware the molded-in rear wind screen. I didn't file it down and replace with a transparency. I just painted it blue to symbolize the real thing. Matt Z. On Sat, 31 Jan 1998, Ernest Thomas wrote: > Hey Bill & Robert > > Thanks for the reply on this kit. My local hobby shop is expecting them > real soon and I thought maybe one of you guys had one already. I guess > my shekels will be well spent. > > E. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 09:20:29 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/48 Glencoe OEFFAG Message-ID: <34D5E43D.3967@bellsouth.net> Vedran Kalamiza wrote: > > Can any of you `older` folks send me a brief rewiew of Glencoe`s 1/48 Albatross > OEFFAG.Is it worth buying or should I wait for better kit to come.... > > Vedran Kalamiza > > vedrank@sjever.fsb.hr Vedran, I only have the "Voss" issue of the D-III. The platic is crappy but the decal sheet is worth the $10.00 I paid for mine. I don't know what the Oeffag decal sheet looks like. Ernest ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 10:26:09 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Zivich To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: 1/48 Glencoe OEFFAG Message-ID: Wait for a better kit. The Glencoe Oeffag is a rip-off. The fuselage halves don't match, the upper wing was terribly warped, etc., etc. Matt Z. On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Vedran Kalamiza wrote: > > Can any of you `older` folks send me a brief rewiew of Glencoe`s 1/48 Albatross > OEFFAG.Is it worth buying or should I wait for better kit to come.... > > > Vedran Kalamiza > > vedrank@sjever.fsb.hr > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 09:48:56 -0600 (CST) From: fedders To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Sierra news... Message-ID: On Sun, 1 Feb 1998, Joey Valenciano wrote: > Hi all, > > Bob Norgen of Sierra Scale Models just sent me this short note: > > ************ > Will have to refund the Gotha and Rumpler. No time to finish the kits before > the summer. Sorry, job is taking a toll. This terrible news. Worse than the sack of Rome peter > ************ > > We'll just have to wait.... > > > > ********************************************************************* > > Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, > joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist > tel. (632) 921-26-75 > Metro-Manila, Philippines > > "The more you know, the more you don't know." > > ********************************************************************* > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 02:03:18 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi Subject: Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " Message-ID: <34D67AE6.50FF@webtime.com.au> Courtesy of Shane Weier's Windsock collection c. Vol 7 (Thanks again Shane !! ) I recently came accross this rather dog-ugly all metal float plane - Has anyone ever seen 1/ 72 or 1/48 Plans for this little horror ? Looks like an entertaining project. Just getting out the solder and filling the butane torch now in the hope someone might oblige ! REGARDS TO ALL DAVID R.L. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 10:15:09 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: DH-4 Message-ID: <34D5F10D.3AC0@bellsouth.net> Matthew Zivich wrote: > > Ernest, > > If it is the old Aurora I'd agree with the other list members who > have responded. The interior detail is sketchy at best but presented an > interesting challenge to accomplish correctly. Beware the molded-in rear > wind screen. I didn't file it down and replace with a transparency. I > just painted it blue to symbolize the real thing. > > Matt Z. > > On Sat, 31 Jan 1998, Ernest Thomas wrote: > > > Hey Bill & Robert > > > > Thanks for the reply on this kit. My local hobby shop is expecting them > > real soon and I thought maybe one of you guys had one already. I guess > > my shekels will be well spent. > > > > E. > > Thanks E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 09:34:10 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/48 Glencoe OEFFAG Message-ID: >Vedran Kalamiza wrote: >> >> Can any of you `older` folks send me a brief rewiew of Glencoe`s 1/48 >>Albatross >> OEFFAG.Is it worth buying or should I wait for better kit to come.... >> >> Vedran Kalamiza >> >> vedrank@sjever.fsb.hr > >Vedran, > >I only have the "Voss" issue of the D-III. The platic is crappy but the >decal sheet is worth the $10.00 I paid for mine. I don't know what the >Oeffag decal sheet looks like. > >Ernest With all due respect, I would dispute this last statement. The decal sheets included in the Glenco Albatros kits are very well printed, but the proportions of some of the crosses on these sheets are not terribly accurate. To my eye, at least, they look a bit funny on the finished models. My US$ 0.02 worth. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 09:36:16 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " Message-ID: >Courtesy of Shane Weier's Windsock collection c. Vol 7 (Thanks again >Shane !! ) I recently came accross this rather dog-ugly all metal float >plane - Has anyone ever seen 1/ 72 or 1/48 Plans for this little horror >? Looks like an entertaining project. > >Just getting out the solder and filling the butane torch now in the hope >someone might oblige ! > >REGARDS TO ALL > >DAVID R.L. David, I can check my copy of the Harleyford Marine a/c book and see if there is any help there. You might have to resort to drawing your own plans from photos if you are really hard core about this one. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 02:52:05 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi Subject: Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " Message-ID: <34D68655.7D86@webtime.com.au> Charles wrote > > David, > > I can check my copy of the Harleyford Marine a/c book and see if there is any help there. You might have to resort to drawing your own plans from photos if you are really hard core about this one. > > Charles Never inflexible but may even go to the point of drawing this one - Thanks for offering to look it up - BTW Still chasing a copy of the Harleyfor Marine book - It's a hard one to find !!! If anyone's looking to sell a copy, PLEASE let me know !! REGARDS DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 10:58:42 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/48 Glencoe OEFFAG Message-ID: <34D5FB42.662E@bellsouth.net> Charles Hart wrote: > > >Vedran Kalamiza wrote: > >> > >> Can any of you `older` folks send me a brief rewiew of Glencoe`s 1/48 > >>Albatross > >> OEFFAG.Is it worth buying or should I wait for better kit to come.... > >> > >> Vedran Kalamiza > >> > >> vedrank@sjever.fsb.hr > > > >Vedran, > > > >I only have the "Voss" issue of the D-III. The platic is crappy but the > >decal sheet is worth the $10.00 I paid for mine. I don't know what the > >Oeffag decal sheet looks like. > > > >Ernest > > With all due respect, I would dispute this last statement. The decal > sheets included in the Glenco Albatros kits are very well printed, but the > proportions of some of the crosses on these sheets are not terribly > accurate. To my eye, at least, they look a bit funny on the finished > models. > > My US$ 0.02 worth. > > Charles > > hartc@spot.colorado.edu Charles, I haven't done anything with mine yet so I hadn't noticed. Thanks for the warning. Btw I think Riordan has the decal sheet from the oeffag. E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 17:08:35 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: Reference numbers Message-ID: <199802021703.RAA01970@beryl.sol.co.uk> > What you are doing is slamming a noted historian because you don't like= =20 > his facts. Morrows agenda is pretty much the truth. Your previous=20 > notices have pretty much told us what your agenda is. > peter I'm not slamming anybody, Peter - but I find your assertion that the GAS was principally involved in recce untenable. You have quoted somebody I'm afraid I haven't heard of (sorry) with "facts", which when we examined th= em you agreed to be suspect (8% bombers). So how can his agenda be "pretty much the truth"? I have quoted a contemporary report to the contary and backed this up with independent facts from a source (G&T) that nearly everyone o= n this list will know and respect. I repeat 4 scouts to every 3 recce planes does not support the principle aim being recce does it? Sandy (Sorry, I won=92t rise to the last bit) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 09:12:32 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Stephanian To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Meikraft Models Message-ID: > Rob > (Rant mode on) > By now you have gotten the replies from others on the list who sent > $$ to the guy and got little or nothing to show for it. I've had clients go > to jail for the same type of scam this guy seems to perpetrate. When you > take someone's money and don't give them what they paid for, it comes close > to theft. I don't care if the guy is making stuff from a era we love. I've > never been burned by him, so maybe I'm not the one to talk. However, this > same thread has regrettably(sp?) been on the list before, and I get the > suspicion it will continue to show up unless something is done. Write to > either your State Office of Consumer Affairs or even the US Attorney in your > district if you sent things by the mail. > (Rant mode off) > Mike Muth I believe Mike couldn't be more right about this.....it's one thing to announce upcoming kits and have them appear later (very frustrating, i.e. Accurate Miniatures..) but to take money and not deliver promptly or at all is criminal. I thank this list for alerting me to Meikraft's 'Ponzi ' scheme, I would have ordered kits and wondered what happened. Regardless of how wonderful the subjects are, supporting Meikraft's business practices just perpetuates his shady dealings. Charles Stephanian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 17:27:29 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " Message-ID: <199802021723.RAA02882@beryl.sol.co.uk> I know where there is (was?) a copy in the UK for 70GBP which is probably the going rate (although it seems a bit high to me). They accepy credit cards etc. If you want it, drop me a note off-list and I can phone them for you to make sure its still there. Sandy > Charles wrote > > > > David, > > > > I can check my copy of the Harleyford Marine a/c book and see if there is any help there. You might have to resort to drawing your own plans from photos if you are really hard core about this one. > > > > Charles > > > Never inflexible but may even go to the point of drawing this one - > Thanks for offering to look it up - BTW Still chasing a copy of the > Harleyfor Marine book - It's a hard one to find !!! If anyone's looking > to sell a copy, PLEASE let me know !! > > REGARDS > > DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 17:45:46 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Bound volumes of Profiles Message-ID: <199802021739.RAA03509@beryl.sol.co.uk> I was on business in Aberdeen on Friday and found a bookshop with some bound volumes of Profiles which they were offering for 22GBP each. The volumes were 1,2,3,4 & 6 and in good nick but no dustcovers. If anybody is interested drop me a line. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 13:11:31 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Zivich To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " Message-ID: I have this plane in 1/72 scale vacuform. It was relatively inexpensive, about $16-$17 (us). I thought it would be a good introduction to vac. building. It probably is, but it remains in its plastic bag. I think it's a Sierra brand with 3-view drawings, average in detail, etc. OK decals, some metal parts. An interesting history of the plane is included. It doesn't say whether it ever saw active service or not. This 1/72 model may have been discontinued. This model was one of 3 vacs I purchased in 1/72 scale, all about the same price range. The Put Bus is shelved for the time being. A Junkers J-1 was built, my only vac. to come off the assembly line. And an early Brit. FE pusher type was returned to the shop where it still hangs in its wrapper. Matt Z. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 12:28:31 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Edmund Thieffrey Message-ID: <199802021830.MAA09995@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> Would anyone happen to have any info (3-views, colors, etc.) on the Nie 17 flown by Belgian ace Edmund Thieffrey? I have one photo that shows the Comet insignia of No. 1 Squadron, Belgian Air Service, on the side of this aircraft, with what appears to be a "cross" (?) on the upper fuselage behind the cockpit. TIA. Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 11:29:49 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " Message-ID: > > > I have this plane in 1/72 scale vacuform. It was relatively >inexpensive, about $16-$17 (us). I thought it would be a good >introduction to vac. building. It probably is, but it remains in its >plastic bag. I think it's a Sierra brand with 3-view drawings, average >in detail, etc. OK decals, some metal parts. An interesting history of >the plane is included. It doesn't say whether it ever saw active service >or not. This 1/72 model may have been discontinued. This model was one >of 3 vacs I purchased in 1/72 scale, all about the same price range. The >Put Bus is shelved for the time being. A Junkers J-1 was built, my only >vac. to come off the assembly line. And an early Brit. FE pusher type >was returned to the shop where it still hangs in its wrapper. > >Matt Z. I think that the "PUT BUS" kit was a Phoenix/Blue Rider release of 6 or so years ago. Can't remember exactly since I've never seen one. Kits from this producer are now pretty scarce to come by. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 98 13:32:04 EST From: Brian To: Subject: Re: Meikraft Models Message-ID: <199802021835.NAA01419@pease1.sr.unh.edu> My experiences with Meikraft pretty much echo everyone else, buy from dealers, not direct. If Steve Hustad was still on the list, perhaps he could comment more clearly, but I believe a firm has an obligation to send you a note after a certain period of time after you place an order stating that the item will be delayed for a specified period of time (not "in the future") and/or offer you a refund. Otherwise it is mail fraud and your local postal inspector would LOVE to hear from you. The only people I do advance ordering from anymore is Monogram Aviation Publications, when things get delayed, Tom Hitchcock sends out postcards stating what is going on. Of course finding a dealer who puts up with Meikraft is rare now as well. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 13:58:40 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Zivich To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: LVG V 1 - " PUT BUS " Message-ID: Correction noticed: yes, Charles, I believe it was the Phoenix-B. Rider brand. Perhaps it was some sort of close-out sale at the time. On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Charles Hart wrote: > > > > > > I have this plane in 1/72 scale vacuform. It was relatively > >inexpensive, about $16-$17 (us). I thought it would be a good > >introduction to vac. building. It probably is, but it remains in its > >plastic bag. I think it's a Sierra brand with 3-view drawings, average > >in detail, etc. OK decals, some metal parts. An interesting history of > >the plane is included. It doesn't say whether it ever saw active service > >or not. This 1/72 model may have been discontinued. This model was one > >of 3 vacs I purchased in 1/72 scale, all about the same price range. The > >Put Bus is shelved for the time being. A Junkers J-1 was built, my only > >vac. to come off the assembly line. And an early Brit. FE pusher type > >was returned to the shop where it still hangs in its wrapper. > > > >Matt Z. > > I think that the "PUT BUS" kit was a Phoenix/Blue Rider release of 6 or > so years ago. Can't remember exactly since I've never seen one. Kits from > this producer are now pretty scarce to come by. > > Charles > > > hartc@spot.colorado.edu > > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 875 *********************