WWI Digest 874 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Meikraft Models by DavidL1217@aol.com 2) Re: New Kilduff book by DavidL1217@aol.com 3) Re: RNAS Deperdussin No. 885 by Alberto Rada 4) Re: Meikraft Models by "Gillian & Ray Boorman" 5) Re: Meikraft Models by "Gillian & Ray Boorman" 6) Re: New Thread SE5 Greenhouse by KarrArt@aol.com 7) Re: Meikraft Models by mbittner@juno.com 8) Meikraft models by mbittner@juno.com 9) Shameless plug by "Chris Banyai-Riepl" 10) Re: DH-4 by "David R.L. Laws" 11) Re: Meikraft Models by "David R.L. Laws" 12) RE: Re: PC-10, ETC by Shane Weier 13) Re: Meikraft Models by bucky@mail.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 14) Re: not forgetful! by "David R.L. Laws" 15) Re: DEATH TO THE COLOUR POLICE !! WAS Re: PC-10, ETC by "David R.L. Laws" 16) Re: Meikraft Models by "David R.L. Laws" 17) Sierra news... by Joey Valenciano 18) Re: Meikraft Models by KarrArt@aol.com 19) Re: Re: PC-10, ETC by KarrArt@aol.com 20) Re: Sierra news... by Hirohisa Ozaki 21) Re: DH-4 by Ernest Thomas 22) Re: Re: PC-10, ETC by Ernest Thomas 23) Re: Re: PC-10, ETC by Joey Valenciano 24) AMT DH-4 by Joey Valenciano 25) Macchi M5 by Alberto Rada 26) Tom Werner Hansen by mbittner@juno.com 27) Re: Macchi M5 by mbittner@juno.com 28) Re: Shameless plug by KarrArt@aol.com 29) Re: OFF TOPIC - HELLCATS FLIGHT SIM by "David R.L. Laws" 30) RB.1 (was OFF TOPIC - HELLCATS FLIGHT SIM) by Bob Pearson 31) Re: AMT DH-4 by Ernest Thomas 32) Re: Macchi M5 by Alberto Rada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 11:24:15 EST From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Meikraft Models Message-ID: YOu got your Lloyd Triplane!!! I never got mine! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 11:25:04 EST From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: New Kilduff book Message-ID: <15fa981d.34d4a1e2@aol.com> Kilduff has a new book!. Tell me more. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 13:12:33 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: RNAS Deperdussin No. 885 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980201131233.006e7b70@pop.true.net> Hi Charlie I just revised the book Royal Naval Air Service by Brad King and there is no mention of a Deperdussin ? Please let me know your findings SALUDOS Alberto At 10:54 AM 01-02-98 -0500, you wrote: >Well after reading the threads on the DH4 I pulling J. M. Bruce's book on >DeHavilland Aircraft of WW1 >off the shelf and started flipping pages on the DH4; photo 43 of the sky >blue and buff looks neat..anyway >came to page 9 where the chapter starts on the D.H.1 and here's a photo (4) >of the DH1 prototype with a RNAS Deperdussin sitting behind it at Hendon. >Appears to be the same aircraft as the Inpact 1911 Deperdussin you can make >out the early red/white RNAS roundel and the 885 on the tail. Does anyone >know if this is the same as the 1911 Inpact/Pyro model to me it appears to >be the same but I'm looking at a small grey aircraft that not totally in >focus. Are their any other sources around showing the RNAS markings on >this aircraft. > >Currently working on the Inpact kit, one wing was really moulded badly with >deep impressions on the top and bottom - have filled with putty, primed >with automotive primer and wet/dry sanded at least four times and still am >not totally pleased, - may have to scratch build both wings to resolve - >keep telling myself THIS IS A HOBBY! > >If anyone has any additional data on No. 885 I'd appreciate it. > >Charlie > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 09:30:58 -0800 From: "Gillian & Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Meikraft Models Message-ID: <003001bd2f37$29f3eb40$9210c2cf@rayboorm> That's a really good idea, put it in the Faq, that Meikraft produce nice models but do not order in advance since the lead time could be severe. Have to watch how the wording was since you don't want commit slander. (which is it, is slander spoken and Libel written?) May save someone else from donating money on a term deposit. Ray Boorman (Gillian_Boorman@bc.sympatico.ca) -----Original Message----- From: TPTPUMPER@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Sunday, February 01, 1998 6:46 AM Subject: Re: Meikraft Models >Hi Rob! > > Don't do that again! As others on the List will tell you, go to the hobby >shop and pay full retail for Meikraft--that way you will have something in >return for your money. > > A few years back Meikraft started a "Collector Club". I sent in the >requisite $30 and received propaganda and an order form. I ordered. Now I'm >in for $115. Nothing arrives on my doorstep. I write. I call. Nothing. >After 1 year, 11 months, I send a postcard (My theory is that he tosses his >mail--tired of reading bitchy letters.) I said, essentially, It's been 2 >years. Send me 1.) my money, 2.) my kits, or 3.) kits totalling my $115. >If I receive no response in 30 days, I'm going to the modelling press, and you >do not need bad PR. Within 2 weeks I got kits totalling over $115, all but >one WWI, an apology, and a promise to send me free of charge 2 Lloyd Tripes >and 2 Fokker D.Is. (Never got the freebies, BTW.) > > Other sources say he spends his time crying tales of woe rather than >producing kits. Not my problem. Will I buy Meikraft again? Maybe, but at >the local hobby shop, NOT direct. > > Good luck. BTW, is Meikraft on the FAQ yet? ;^) > >Have Fun!! > >IRA > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 10:08:31 -0800 From: "Gillian & Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Meikraft Models Message-ID: <000201bd2f3c$a659fb20$2518c2cf@rayboorm> Not being from the US, but wouldn't it be better for everyone to write to the state Meikraft is in? However if everyone who has ordered models and not received them wrote to FSM, Windsock etc that might do just as much good. They may not publish all the letters but they might publish one and mention that they had many other compliants. In the interest of fairness what about adding one liners on all manufacturers to the FAQ. Example Blue Max; Limited run, excellent quality and very accurate. Cheapest bought direct 1/48 Merlin limited run, mouldings tend to be very rough :-), large selection 1/72 and 1/48 Meikraft, require clean up, however good models. Never order direct from Meikraft. 1/72 Pegasus; Limited run, excellent models, usually accurate. Cheapest bought direct. 1/72 Etc Ray Boorman (Gillian_Boorman@bc.sympatico.ca) -----Original Message----- From: Charles Duckworth To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Sunday, February 01, 1998 7:58 AM Subject: Re: Meikraft Models >Write to either your State Office of Consumer Affairs or even the US >Attorney in your >district if you sent things by the mail. > >Mike Muth > >Mike raises a good point and is the one of the powerful tools of this FAQ, >one knows from all the >readings that Meikraft is a poor business to deal with - our local hobby >shop stopped dealing with him several years ago do to the same problems. >I'd encourage anyone who's got money tied up at Meikraft to complaint to a >state consumer affairs office. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 13:38:09 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: New Thread SE5 Greenhouse Message-ID: <727e90e5.34d4c113@aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-31 14:44:56 EST, you write: << Ok guys, how come with all the aftermarket stuff out there, I've never seen the infamous SE5 "greenhouse", the quasi-canopy that was apparently removed by the guys as soon as possible? It seems made for a vac, but I've never seen them advertised. I don't dop vacs, but wouldn't it be simple...and if so any volunteers. Mike Muth nb: Hurricane Mk I and SE-5a nl: Buffalo Springsfield (I'm in a 60's kinda mood) >> no real content in my message other than "duh..why hasn't somebody thought of this before?" It should be an easy enough home vac project or even "stretch and squash" or whatever you call it.Now all you need is a decent SE5 (not "a") Robert nb: still slogging away on the 0/400 as I finish up the Eduard Pfalz in memory of IRA! nl:nothing- it's Sunday morning and too early to hear anything ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 14:02:55 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Meikraft Models Message-ID: <19980201.140545.8982.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 1 Feb 1998 11:27:54 -0500 DavidL1217@aol.com writes: >YOu got your Lloyd Triplane!!! > >I never got mine! Write him back. Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 14:02:24 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Meikraft models Message-ID: <19980201.140545.8982.0.mbittner@juno.com> Well, I think something should be added to the FAQ about Meikraft. However, I'm nor sure if I like all the suggestions made yet. I do like the small warning, but really dislike talking about all manufacturers. Primarily because I have to maintain it. :-) I will probably put in a warning like: "Meikraft models: A good source of WW1 limited run models. However, some people in the past have had problems dealing direct with them." I don't know. Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 12:17:16 -0800 From: "Chris Banyai-Riepl" To: Subject: Shameless plug Message-ID: <01bd2f4e$64044d40$a64ffbce@chrisban> February Aviation What-Not http://www.willapabay.org/~herper/aviation OK, I admit that this month there is no WWI content, but the February Aviation What-Not does feature a very nice profile of a Beaver by Bob Pearson, resident list resider (is that redundant?) At any rate, I am looking to increase the content of my site and would love to have some WWI stuff, so take a look, admire the work, glean facts from the information, and then send me an article for the March issue! Thanks, and now back to the discussions already in progress. Chris Banyai-Riepl .. "One must be a wise reader to quote wisely and well." A. Bronson Alcott (1799-1888), U.S. educator, social reformer. Table Talk, bk. 1, "Quotation" (1877). .. Alga Computer Systems http://willapabay.org/~herper/ .. Aviation What-Not http://www.willapabay.org/~herper/aviation ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 09:21:43 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi Subject: Re: DH-4 Message-ID: <34D59027.2EFF@webtime.com.au> Robert Karr is right - If you want a bit more more detail on the corrections ( sorry, no plans ) HARRY WOODMANS OLD(ER) BOOK " SCALE MODEL AIRCRAFT IN PLASTIC CARD " GIVES A FAIR OUTLINE - WANT A COPY OF THE SALIENT PARTS ? David ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 09:32:42 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi Subject: Re: Meikraft Models Message-ID: <34D592BA.1D86@webtime.com.au> Delays on production runs are fair enough - But don't you guys in the USofA have any legislation which deals with folks you say ( or represent ) that something's going to happen ( within about a 3 to 6 month period of time ) and then just don't deliver or only do so after a great deal of emotionally draining " to-do " In Australia we have a Federal legislation called the Trade Practices Act of 1974 - Naughty folk who seek money when they are not going to supply with reasonable promptitude are subject to to some pretty stiff Penalties and sanctions over here BTW This isn't supposed to be pointed - I'm just dealing with several US based suppliers now and am curious as to rights and recourse if anything were to go wrong. REGARDS DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 08:32:09 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: wwi Subject: RE: Re: PC-10, ETC Message-ID: <199802012342.JAA27381@mimmon.mim.com.au> Glen posts: >>( Late one dark and foggy night) >>"knock-knock" >>Shane: " who's there" >>"It's the color police, throw out your paint tins and come out with your >>brushes up!" You'll never take me aliiiiive !! (dresses quickly in anti-CP kilt and rainbow spotted sporran and arms self with blunt Xacto and empty Humbrol tinlets, places Eduard box on head and shouts defiantly....) "Who caaaaaares what colour it is. Nyah,nyah,nyah na na...." Shane (Lest anyone think I'm serious, here is my real position. It *is* worth worrying about the *proper* colours used on WW1 aircraft, lest we betray our obligation to history. But there is a point at which reality has to step in. What we really *do* know, and what we may *ever* know may not be complete, may not, after 80 years, even be accurate. For our sanity and that of those around us, it's sensible to admit that in some things, the "best guess" is as likely to be right as the hardest sought answer) S ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 18:42:48 -0500 From: bucky@mail.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Meikraft Models Message-ID: <199802012342.SAA27691@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 12:38 PM 2/1/98 -0500, Gillian & Ray Boorman wrote: . Have >to watch how the wording was since you don't want commit slander. (which is >it, is slander spoken and Libel written?) May save someone else from >donating money on a term deposit. Slander is spoken, libel is written. Both together comprise defamation. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 09:47:56 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi Subject: Re: not forgetful! Message-ID: <34D5964C.538C@webtime.com.au> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > The basic 0/400 fuselage is framed out of HO RailRoad scale 2x2 lumber. This works out almost perfectly for a scale 1/48 frame ROBERT, You fellas in the states are spoiled- What size is this HO scale railway timber and do you know what sort of wood is used by the manufacturers - For the Old Hardies who have to cut their own - I use 3 ply, a steel ruler and hobby knife to cut strips fromthe pine facing material, these are then gentley separated from the adjacent ply with a knife ..all internal detail added..then Fishingline bracing - then a skin of .015 plastic. I"LL CHIP IN WITH A WRINKLE ( CREDIT TO ROBERT FOR THE INSPIRATION - IF YOU USE CLEAR INSTEAD OF WHITE ( OPAQUE ) FOR THE SKIN WHERE YOU ARE SEEKING TO EMULATE CDL, THE SLIGHTLY "SEE THROUGH " RESULTS ARE QUITE PLEASING ( ROBERT USED SOLID CLEAR FOR THE WINGS ON HIS BE 2 ) Shirt box lids can be a good scource of the clear plastic - but check the plastic used for the lids first !! The infamous Gotha had wings made the old fashioned way with dope-and-tissue over ribs and spars. ROBERT, IS THE GOTHA STILL IN " AS CRASHED " CONDITION ? REGARDS DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 10:07:04 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi Subject: Re: DEATH TO THE COLOUR POLICE !! WAS Re: PC-10, ETC Message-ID: <34D59AC9.843@webtime.com.au> > (Lest anyone think I'm serious, here is my real position. > It *is* worth worrying about the *proper* colours used on WW1 aircraft, > lest we betray our obligation to history. But there is a point at which reality has to step in. What we really *do* know, and what we may *ever* know may not be complete, may not, after 80 years, even be accurate. For our sanity and that of those around us, it's sensible to admit that in some things, the "best guess" is as likely to be right as the hardest sought answer) > > S HEAR, HEAR !!! Is there not a case for establishing some conventions by way of ( [sic] " standard " ) colour mixes as an FAQ on the List for BOTH colours known with any certainty and colours about which there is either doubt ( or more general dispute ) with some notes to assist the newcommers about contraversy where serious doubt or dispute exists JUST A THOUGHT DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 10:13:36 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi Subject: Re: Meikraft Models Message-ID: <34D59C50.1B42@webtime.com.au> MIKE Slander is spoken, libel is written. Both together comprise defamation. > Mike Muth Is the Defence of Truth and/ or Public interest preserved accross the board in the US or does one " tip toe through a minfield " of inconsistant legislative framework between the various States and/ or Federally !! There are significant problems here in Australia with defamation and ther floavour of the month is forum shpping especially where newsprint or national media reporting ( or Internet ) is involved JUST CURIOUS REGARDS DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 08:26:50 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Sierra news... Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980202082650.006c3910@philonline.com.ph> Hi all, Bob Norgen of Sierra Scale Models just sent me this short note: ************ Will have to refund the Gotha and Rumpler. No time to finish the kits before the summer. Sorry, job is taking a toll. ************ We'll just have to wait.... ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 19:35:32 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Meikraft Models Message-ID: In a message dated 98-02-01 18:40:36 EST, you write: << Slander is spoken, libel is written. Both together comprise defamation. Mike Muth >> If you remove their skeleton, that's de-framation... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 19:35:31 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Re: PC-10, ETC Message-ID: In a message dated 98-02-01 18:32:22 EST, you write: << It *is* worth worrying about the *proper* colours used on WW1 aircraft, lest we betray our obligation to history. But there is a point at which reality has to step in. >> Well said- in all our ruminations about PC10 we should still attempt to deliver our best interpretations.Exactitude would be an accident and we probably wouldn't even be aware of a lucky colormatch.We're operating within limits- we know more about what's exactly wrong than what is exactly right- A Sop Camel most likely would never have been seen sporting flourecsent green wings with shocking pink spots. But still, a pox on the color police! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 98 09:41:43 +0900 From: Hirohisa Ozaki To: wwi Subject: Re: Sierra news... Message-ID: <199802020043.JAA01159@zoo.miln.mei.co.jp> >Bob Norgen of Sierra Scale Models just sent me this short note: > >************ >Will have to refund the Gotha and Rumpler. No time to finish the kits before >the summer. Sorry, job is taking a toll. >************ > >We'll just have to wait.... I am sorry much. Wait, and 'm looking forward release them, until the summer. off topic, I recieved Sierra Barracuda kit, fine! Hiro. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 18:53:25 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: DH-4 Message-ID: <34D51905.5783@bellsouth.net> David R.L. Laws wrote: > > Robert Karr is right - If you want a bit more more detail on the > corrections ( sorry, no plans ) HARRY WOODMANS OLD(ER) BOOK " SCALE > MODEL AIRCRAFT IN PLASTIC CARD " GIVES A FAIR OUTLINE - WANT A COPY OF > THE SALIENT PARTS ? > > David David, Thanks for the offer of a copy of the salient parts. I already have a real nice book,(the title escapes me)on the DH-4 that I bought to use on my AMT kit. But If I find I need something else, I'll get back to you. Thanks again. Ernest ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 18:56:30 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: Re: PC-10, ETC Message-ID: <34D519BE.289D@bellsouth.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 98-02-01 18:32:22 EST, you write: > > << It *is* worth worrying about the *proper* colours used on WW1 aircraft, > lest we betray our obligation to history. But there is a point at which > reality has to step in. >> > Well said- in all our ruminations about PC10 we should still attempt to > deliver our best interpretations.Exactitude would be an accident and we > probably wouldn't even be aware of a lucky colormatch.We're operating within > limits- we know more about what's exactly wrong than what is exactly right- A > Sop Camel most likely would never have been seen sporting flourecsent green > wings with shocking pink spots. > But still, a pox on the color police! > Robert That's true, But I did see once pictures of a P-40 with original paint at Oshkosh and the brown had turned pink. Ernest. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 09:08:06 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: Re: PC-10, ETC Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980202090806.006c2aa8@philonline.com.ph> >A >Sop Camel most likely would never have been seen sporting flourecsent green >wings with shocking pink spots. Unless it were a training machine..... ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 09:11:08 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: AMT DH-4 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980202091108.006a1a40@philonline.com.ph> >I already have a >real nice book,(the title escapes me)on the DH-4 that I bought to use on >my AMT kit. But If I find I need something else, I'll get back to you. How big a horror story is the AMT kit? I've been offered one. Should I just wait/look out for a Glencoe/Aurora/etc.? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 21:26:38 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Macchi M5 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980201212638.006e934c@pop.true.net> Hi Last week there was a thread on the Macchi M5 , unfortunately while reading it there was a power failure and I lost several messages, this one among them, I remember that our friend Franco Polony offered a copy of the original plans, Franco provided me with a copy some time ago, and it proved invaluable, as the Hippo model, although very accurate on wings and structure, has some flaws on the cabin, the dashboard is presented frontal, which would not be possible as this space was occupied by the Canonino Fiat, so the instruments where presented on starboard ( right wall) , I am now in the middle of making this kit, which is turning out to be a fine looking plane, or should I say boat. SALUDOS Alberto ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 19:47:41 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Tom Werner Hansen Message-ID: <19980201.194831.8974.0.mbittner@juno.com> Sorry to send this to the list, but messages to Tom Werner Hansen are bouncing back. In regards to the P-63A: >I have the ones in "Aircraft of the fighting powers vol.6" >I have no idea how reliable they are. But at least they are 1/72. >Let me know if you want them and I'll scan them. Yes, please! If you get problems with this address, could you send them to the following, please? bittnerm@stratcom.af.mil Thanks! Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 19:51:31 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Macchi M5 Message-ID: <19980201.195132.8974.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Sun, 1 Feb 1998 20:46:10 -0500 Alberto Rada writes: > Last week there was a thread on the Macchi M5 , unfortunately > while reading it there was a power failure and I lost several > messages, this one among them, I remember that our friend Franco > Polony offered a copy of the original plans, Franco provided me > with a copy some time ago, and it proved invaluable, as the > Hippo model, although very accurate on wings and structure, has > some flaws on the cabin, the dashboard is presented frontal, > which would not be possible as this space was occupied by the > Canonino Fiat, so the instruments where presented on starboard ( > right wall) , I am now in the middle of making this kit, which > is turning out to be a fine looking plane, or should I say > boat. Franco, could you send plans my way? With the imminent release of the Pegasus example, we may need these later on. I have another Macchi question, if you're willing to answer it. LMK off-line. Thanks! Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 22:11:54 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Shameless plug Message-ID: <53615f73.34d5397c@aol.com> In a message dated 98-02-01 15:18:28 EST, you write: << February Aviation What-Not http://www.willapabay.org/~herper/aviation OK, I admit that this month there is no WWI content, but the February Aviation What-Not does feature a very nice profile of a Beaver by Bob Pearson, resident list resider (is that redundant?) At any rate, I am looking to increase the content of my site and would love to have some WWI stuff, so take a look, admire the work, glean facts from the information, and then send me an article for the March issue! Thanks, and now back to the discussions already in progress. Chris Banyai-Riepl . >> Yes! Another fine effort and another shameless plug- check the illustration at the top of the links page...oh yeah- Chris- you've got a dead-picture red "x" where the links thingy should be! Anyway- read the 109 thingy article, 'tain't what you might think.All you WW I guys- seriously think about Chris' offer to publish your stuff. He does a first class job. AND- Bob, NICE BEAVER! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 13:33:43 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC - HELLCATS FLIGHT SIM Message-ID: <34D5CB36.544D@webtime.com.au> With apologies to all Drawn a blank elsewhere !! Has anyone out there got the Leyte Gulf module of this game and willing to do a short synopsis of the Mission Objectives for the 6-8 missions - Viz : What do I have to Kill/ Blow up to achieve a mission Award Anyone have a cheat to get Leyte pilots who have been killed etc... flying again I've got the cheat for Leyte v.1.oo but it doesn't work with Leyte v.1.2 Please reply off list to Regards and Thanks DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 19:42:43 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: RB.1 (was OFF TOPIC - HELLCATS FLIGHT SIM) Message-ID: <03424323097077@KAIEN.COM> While we are on the subject of flight sims - I have been given a copy of the original Red Baron for Macs. However although I got all the documentation and goodies that came with it, the disc containing the install file was missing. Would anyone have a copy of the RB.1 Install file for Macs? Regards, Bob Pearson ---------- > From: "David R.L. Laws" > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC - HELLCATS FLIGHT SIM > Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 22:30:47 -0500 > > With apologies to all Drawn a blank elsewhere !! > > Has anyone out there got the Leyte Gulf module of this game and willing > to do a short synopsis of the Mission Objectives for the 6-8 missions - > Viz : What do I have to Kill/ Blow up to achieve a mission Award Anyone > have a cheat to get Leyte pilots who have been killed etc... flying > again I've got the cheat for Leyte v.1.oo but it doesn't work with Leyte > v.1.2 > > Please reply off list to > > Regards and Thanks > > DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 21:40:18 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: AMT DH-4 Message-ID: <34D54022.663E@bellsouth.net> Joey Valenciano wrote: > > >I already have a > >real nice book,(the title escapes me)on the DH-4 that I bought to use on > >my AMT kit. But If I find I need something else, I'll get back to you. > > How big a horror story is the AMT kit? I've been offered one. Should I just > wait/look out for a Glencoe/Aurora/etc.? > > ********************************************************************* > > Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, > joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist > tel. (632) 921-26-75 > Metro-Manila, Philippines > > "The more you know, the more you don't know." > > ********************************************************************* Joey, Personally, I like it. It's a *gonna get to* project so I haven't done much with it besides look at the parts once or twice a year, but someone on the list told me it's not much of a DH-4 but a better base for a DH-9. It has some things I don't like about it, like the external elevator controls being molded on to the side of the fuselage. But all in all, I'm looking forward to building it-Someday. That doesn't mean I'm not gonna get at least one Glenco DH-4. Get the AMT kit if the price is reasonable. Ernest. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 23:43:26 -0400 From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Macchi M5 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980201234326.00761de0@pop.true.net> Hi I have an extra copy of the most important plans ( for modeling purposes ) that is about 6 diferent plans, 3 external, two of the cockpit, and one of the engine, the total group of plans is about 40 and although these would be indispensable for a 1/1 model or even a R/C , for modeling the 6 I separated are about it, anyone interested I'll send a copy and I will also send another one to the Librarian SALUDOS Alberto At 08:55 PM 01-02-98 -0500, you wrote: >On Sun, 1 Feb 1998 20:46:10 -0500 Alberto Rada >writes: > >> Last week there was a thread on the Macchi M5 , unfortunately >> while reading it there was a power failure and I lost several >> messages, this one among them, I remember that our friend Franco >> Polony offered a copy of the original plans, Franco provided me >> with a copy some time ago, and it proved invaluable, as the >> Hippo model, although very accurate on wings and structure, has >> some flaws on the cabin, the dashboard is presented frontal, >> which would not be possible as this space was occupied by the >> Canonino Fiat, so the instruments where presented on starboard ( >> right wall) , I am now in the middle of making this kit, which >> is turning out to be a fine looking plane, or should I say >> boat. > >Franco, could you send plans my way? With the imminent release >of the Pegasus example, we may need these later on. > >I have another Macchi question, if you're willing to answer it. >LMK off-line. Thanks! > > >Matt Bittner > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 874 *********************