WWI Digest 866 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: reference by "Sandy Adam" 2) Re: reference by fedders 3) RE: OT : Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 F by "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" 4) Re: reference by Carlos Valdes 5) Re: More SPAD info requested by KarrArt 6) Re: Handley Page 0/400 by KarrArt 7) Re: April 21st by Patrick Padovan 8) Re: Americal French Markings: by Patrick Padovan 9) Bomb source by REATON@ccmail.dsccc.com 10) New MPM(?) 1/72 W.29 kit by "Randy J. Ray" 11) Schiffer DR-1 book- by BStett3770 12) RE: New MPM(?) 1/72 W.29 kit by Shane Weier 13) Re: Lindbergh Jenny by "Charles Duckworth" 14) Toko review by Carlos Valdes 15) Re: Americal French Markings: by mbittner@juno.com 16) Our web site by mbittner@juno.com 17) Re: Lindbergh Jenny by mbittner@juno.com 18) Re: Bomb source by Riordan and Michelle Goodwin 19) Re: Bomb source by Charles Hart 20) Re: D.VII Anthology by Carlos Valdes 21) Signing off list by Kr0i2 22) Re: Our web site by Carlos Valdes 23) Re: Toko review by mbittner@juno.com 24) Re: More SPAD info requested by bucky@mail.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 25) Re: Off topic - New WW2 types Book series by "David R.L. Laws" 26) Re: D.VII Anthology by Kenneth Hagerup 27) Re: New MPM(?) 1/72 W.29 kit by "Gillian & Ray Boorman" 28) RE: New MPM(?) 1/72 W.29 kit by Shane Weier 29) Re: Lindbergh Jenny by Ernest Thomas ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:43:29 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: Re: reference Message-ID: <199801271550.PAA08090@beryl.sol.co.uk> ... In fact, the numbers of pursuit aircraft, observation aircraft, and > bombers (respectively) for England in WWI are: 55%, 23%, and 22%. For > France the numbers are 34%, 51%, and 15%. While for Germany they are > 42%, 50%, and 8%. > peter fedders Thanks Peter. I wonder how he differentiates between obs and bombers since they were so often interchangeable. Also the German bomber figure of 8% looks awfully low, don't you think? This must surely be only G and R types and omit all the C's and Cl's which carried bombs too. Since the Brits had fewer HPs than the Germans had G's and R's this can't be comparing apples with apples. Does he list numbers by aircraft type? Which category does he put the Bristol Fighter in for example - it carried out all three roles. However if you compare single-seat with multi-seat, you get 55/45 and 42/58 which probably sounds about right to me given the German use of ground attack and long-range bombers; and remembering that the UK ramped up production of scouts later in the war, in reaction to the losses. Do you feel these figures contradict the widely reported observation that the RFC was committed to an offensive strategy and the German Air Service to a defensive one? I don't. After your mail yesterday I consulted a whole series of respected books which state exactly that. I can quote them all if you like - but the final summary of Ralph Barker's RFC in France sums the whole thing up where he highlights how Trenchard's use of the RFC in an offensive manner to try to reduce ground casualties resulted in a far higher loss of life than the corresponding use of the Luftstreitkraefte in a defensive manner. Barker also makes the point that RFC scouts were used in trying to protect the 2-seaters over German territory so we can't assume 2-seater = attack and scout = defence. Lest the Horst Wessel chapter assumes this is some glorification of things British, a moment's thought will show it is actually an indictment on the crass stupidity of the British High Command for which joe aircrew paid very, very dear. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:13:40 -0600 (CST) From: fedders To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: reference Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Sandy Adam wrote: > > .. In fact, the numbers of pursuit aircraft, observation aircraft, and > > bombers (respectively) for England in WWI are: 55%, 23%, and 22%. For > > France the numbers are 34%, 51%, and 15%. While for Germany they are > > 42%, 50%, and 8%. > > peter fedders > > Thanks Peter. > I wonder how he differentiates between obs and bombers since they were so > often interchangeable. Also the German bomber figure of 8% looks awfully > low, don't you think? This must surely be only G and R types and omit all > the C's and Cl's which carried bombs too. Since the Brits had fewer HPs > than the Germans had G's and R's this can't be comparing apples with > apples. Does he list numbers by aircraft type? Which category does he put > the Bristol Fighter in for example - it carried out all three roles. I agree that 8% looks awfully low and it probably includes only G andR aircraft, not the C aircraft. > > However if you compare single-seat with multi-seat, you get 55/45 and 42/58 > which probably sounds about right to me given the German use of ground > attack and long-range bombers; and remembering that the UK ramped up > production of scouts later in the war, in reaction to the losses. > I think that both sides ramped up scouts laer in the war. John Morrow may have the figures by year. I will write him and ask. However, there is no assurance that he will return my mail. > Do you feel these figures contradict the widely reported observation that > the RFC was committed to an offensive strategy and the German Air Service > to a defensive one? I don't. After your mail yesterday I consulted a whole > series of respected books which state exactly that. I can quote them all if > you like - but the final summary of Ralph Barker's RFC in France sums the > whole thing up where he highlights how Trenchard's use of the RFC in an > offensive manner to try to reduce ground casualties resulted in a far > higher loss of life than the corresponding use of the Luftstreitkraefte in > a defensive manner. I consider it beyond argument that the Germans fought a defensive war in the air (and on the ground in the west for most of the war). The only exceptions being a locally offensive war here and there for short periods. I also believe that Trenchards offensively policy cost many many lives and accomplished very little. I have seen no evidence that the British recon was better than the Germans or French. In fact, the Germans knew in advance about virtually every Allied attack but some of the German attacks were surprises since they move up the men and supplies at night. > > Barker also makes the point that RFC scouts were used in trying to protect > the 2-seaters over German territory so we can't assume 2-seater = attack > and scout = defence. I agree with this and you are right that 1-seater does not imply defense - esp for the English. Where I disagree is with the idea that the Germans were primarily intere4sted in shootin planes down. They were primarily interested in obtaining good recon information and in driving the Allies from the air in very selected areas over very short times. they didn't have the resources to do otherwise. Many of the English accounts that I have read show that the English (and Americans) sent up scouts to shoot down German planes even in places where there was very little ground action. I don't think that the Germans did (or could afford to) do much of this peter > > Lest the Horst Wessel chapter assumes this is some glorification of things > British, a moment's thought will show it is actually an indictment on the > crass stupidity of the British High Command for which joe aircrew paid > very, very dear. > Sandy > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:40:26 -0600 From: "Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador" To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: OT : Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 F Message-ID: <01BD2B0F.FB876460.panz-meador@vsti.com> Osprey's "Aircraft of the Aces" series has a book on either Bf109F aces or aces of n. africa (sorry, i forget which) which depicts a series of H-JM's various aircraft. as you might expect, the usual desert tan/light blue with markings, but not just the usual "yellow 14" that was his last aircraft (i think--before he was either shot down by australian infantry or by the RFC, er, RAF). might be useful in conjunction with whatever decal sets are out there... phillip -----Original Message----- From: Paul Schwartzkopf [SMTP:pauls@transcrypt.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 7:55 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: OT : Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 F Several years ago, a decal sheet was issued with several (3?) different markings for his aircraft, and also included clear/metal parts for converting the 1/48 Airfix 109F. I believe it was issued by War Eagle and contained Scale Master decals. (I only know this because I covered my copy of the decal sheet with a recently purchased 1/72 MPM HB W29!) ;-) Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:35:36 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: reference Message-ID: <2.2.32.19980127173536.006cd844@conted.swann.gatech.edu> >Lest the Horst Wessel chapter assumes this is some glorification of things >British, Gee, Sandy, if you think this mailing list is the haunt of nazis, maybe you shouldn't sully yourself by subscribing to it. I can't speak for any others, but I resent your implication associating me--or anyone else who happens to have an interest in German aviation history--with the nazis and the evil they stood for and perpetrated. If this is your opinion of me/us, let me simply tell you to go to hell; if the above reference is meant to be humorous, I didn't find it so. My apologies to the list for having to present this here, but some affronts should not be allowed to go unanswered. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:08:36 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: More SPAD info requested Message-ID: <751bbc63.34ce30b6@aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-24 13:45:30 EST, you write: << Someone recently mentioned an article on the 22nd Aero in C&C magazine but I lost the e-mail. Could someone let me know what issue that was and also if there is any source for getting my hands on a copy of this? Also, a back issue of Over the Front magazine I have has an excellent article on the 94th squadron N28s in Toul. In this article it mentions that there would be a second part in a future issue that would deal with the 94ths SPADs. Does anyone know if this article was ever done? Thanks, Patrick Gilmore >> I haven't forgotten! It may still take a day or two, but I've got the 22 C&C article.The OtF 94th SPAD is still in gestation with no firm date. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:08:35 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: Handley Page 0/400 Message-ID: <3337e053.34ce30b6@aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-27 02:27:59 EST, you write: << Robert Article is about the Airfix kit, and was written by IPMS UK in 1969. It has several photos including one of the interior. Also a general arrangement drawing of the tail bracing, and another drawing of how the bomb was slung. All in all a fair article considering its 30 years old. Hopefully the copy machine will do the photos well. I will get it off to you tomorrow or Wednesday. No problem on the postage or copy costs, I feel that the list helps each other out in these kind of things, and what I do for you today will be repaid some other day to me. Actually has already been, as I received some info on N17's many months ago from Riordan I believe. >> Sounds great- thanks.I've never seen this artucle but I've heard of it's existance.Last year an old friend presented my own sweet self with a ton of ancient and revered modeling info.Contained in this bounty was several years of IPMS UK magazine from about 1965 to early 1969. Apparantly his subcription cut out just before the 0/400 piece! Well, thnaks again- and let me know if you need anything Robert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:22:28 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: April 21st Message-ID: Dear Sandy: I just want to commend you on your admirable restraint! Well done, and BTW, and interesting point re April 21. No plans as yet, but your posting has stirred a few ideas! (Uh oh!) Regards, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Sandy Adam wrote: > > It is the 80th anniversary of the 80-ace's demise this April and WITHOUT > SAYING ANOTHER WORD ABOUT THE MAN HIMSELF, are any of you doing anything re > your models to mark the event? > > I ask since I have been asked to mount a display in our local public > library during the month of April and suggest that many others may be > doing something similar - but if not, it might be worth clubs or > individuals considering this as a way of perhaps raising interest and > bringing new modellers in by the usual MvR route. > > Sandy > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:41:53 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Padovan To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Americal French Markings: Message-ID: Re Rene Fonk remark: as Foghorn Leghorn used to say, That was a joke, Son! Regards, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Padovan Interlibrary Loan Associate Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 mbittner@juno.com wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:40:37 -0500 Patrick Padovan > writes: > > >P.S. Say, wasn't that Rene Fonk a real stinker, or what? > > Cripes. Now you've done it, Patrick. Why don't we let the aces rest for > awhile? Let's get back to talking about the best series of planes ever > produced; the Nieuports! :-) > > > Matt Bittner > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:13:15 -0600 From: REATON@ccmail.dsccc.com To: wwi Subject: Bomb source Message-ID: <001D653D.3370@ccmail.dsccc.com> I was looking up some info on wwi bombs for a kit I am finishing. (frog vickers vimy) the bombs in the kit are poor. Has anyone heard of a source of bombs of the period? I have seen lots of beautiful resin jobs for wwii but not much for those who model in our era. I am trying to cast some coopers from an airfix kit with only limited luck. With the wonderful engine and gun castings done by aeroclub you think someone would do bombs. Am I missing something here? Regards, Richard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:09:35 -0800 From: "Randy J. Ray" To: wwi Subject: New MPM(?) 1/72 W.29 kit Message-ID: <199801280009.AA070866175@i2496bs1.nafohq.hp.com> Or, at least, new to my eyes. I saw this in the shop last weekend, and was wondering how good it is. Seems nice in the box, typical of the east-bloc technology. Randy, who still lacks the tools and such to build, but that's never stopped me from buying more... -- """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Randy J. Ray 408-343-7578 randyr@nafohq.hp.com "Reach up your hand, if your cup be empty/If your cup is full, may it be again" --Grateful Dead, "Ripple" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:01:28 EST From: BStett3770 To: wwi Subject: Schiffer DR-1 book- Message-ID: <2457947d.34ce755a@aol.com> Hi Kevin The New Schiffer V5/Dr1 book is a translation of a book done in Germany about two years ago. Good Text, fair photos ( a few I havn't seen before) Only one color spread of Kemp' A/C . No real 3 views. All in all a good book for the price. Under $15. Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:27:45 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: wwi Subject: RE: New MPM(?) 1/72 W.29 kit Message-ID: <199801280038.KAA03889@mimmon.mim.com.au> Randy, >Or, at least, new to my eyes. I saw this in the shop last weekend, and >was wondering how good it is. Seems nice in the box, typical of the >east-bloc technology. It's pretty good actually. The only error of real note is the lack of the kink in the wings (at the position of the struts) where the wings go to a lesser dihedral. Easily cured in about 5 minutes. Paul Monteagle (writing in SMI's "Wind in the Wires" column) suggests that it lacks the thicker chord at that point as well. This may be so, but reading the cross sections in the datafile and dividing by 48 discovers that it *might* be out by a fraction of a millimetre, scarcely detectable by measurement and by eye only using vivid imagination. The struts are also somewhat suspect. The big problem here is that they don't actually fit the fuselage width - I replaced mine, but they may be salvageable. Otherwise any work I did was the usual fit and alignment problems of minor scope endemic with short run kits. I gave it 8/10 on the "short run injection" scale Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:45:29 -0600 From: "Charles Duckworth" To: Subject: Re: Lindbergh Jenny Message-ID: <199801280049.SAA01144@mail.primary.net> The Lindbergh Jenny is a great introduction kit for someone getting back into the WW1 hobby, cheap, accurate and not a complex kit until one get into the rigging. I built one acouple of years ago after not touching this model since I was probably 13. After thinking about it I believe I had more fun the second time around due to all the sources. It's just a shame that Lindbergh didn't pursue to WWI models more but am sure the JN was the money maker the HE-111 or many-riveted ME-262 were. If anyone is building this kit let me know and I'll list some book sources. Charlie ---------- > From: Paul Schwartzkopf > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Lindbergh Jenny > Date: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 7:58 AM > > > Do other people have this experience of something suddenly leaping out > > at you as a have-to-build, even in the middle of building something > > else? Sandy > > Most definitely! This usually occurs with me after watching an old > movie or TV show, especially if I already have the kit on my shelves. > > I would be very interested is seeing some pictures once you get this > conversion completed! > > > Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:07:59 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Toko review Message-ID: <34CE84EF.23C6@conted.gatech.edu> My order from Silverbird arrived today: the excellent 1/48 resin Hippo Berg D.I (as covered in recent issues of Windsock) and the two available Toko 1/72 kits, the Pfalz D.XII and SSW D.III/IV. If all further Toko WWI kits match these two in quality, I think it safe to say that munchkin-scale modelers are going to be quite pleased. The Toko kits come in colorful, lightweight, one-piece boxes with nice artwork on the front (available for viewing at the Silverbird and Hannants sites) and color painting instructions on the back; these are repeated in black, gray, and white in the rather complete multi-language instruction sheets which contain a short history of and tech specs for the type, a numbered parts diagram, a list of Humbrol colors (named and numbered), and step-by-step pictorial instructions, including interior colors. Very nice overall. Small decal sheets are provided (sans lozenge, as Ivan has pointed out) with markings for two a/c; hard to tell how the decals will behave, but they certainly look very usable. The kits themselves are molded in a not-too-soft, not-too-hard light gray plastic and come complete with all struts and basic interiors but without pilots; there are no photoetch or resin parts. Only a little flash is present, and sprue gates are not particularly thick; struts are delicate and very close to scale (they may prove a bit weak). Surface detail is fairly subdued and generally to scale, with a hint of fabric texture on the wings which will probably disappear under a coat of paint. The SSW's engine is very basic, but the Pfalz's is rather good, as are the guns. I compared the parts to the appropriate Datafile plans and found that the SSW was pretty much spot-on while the Pfalz was just a bit large in wing and tail span and short in fuselage length, but nothing really to worry about. All in all, these are very good little kits, and very affordable to boot. Now if only Toko would come out with 1/48 subjects . . . Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:18:18 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Americal French Markings: Message-ID: <19980127.191824.4094.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:39:17 -0500 Patrick Padovan writes: >Re Rene Fonk remark: as Foghorn Leghorn used to say, That was a joke, >Son! I know. See the smiley? :-) Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:45:23 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Our web site Message-ID: <19980127.191824.4094.0.mbittner@juno.com> I've been meaning to mention: Paul Schwatzkopf's Revell Fokker E.III, Eduard HB D.I, and Eduard Sopwith Triplane are up at our site: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3894/ww1.html Wonderful job, Paul! Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:46:18 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Lindbergh Jenny Message-ID: <19980127.191824.4094.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:39:46 -0500 "Sandy Adam" writes: >Do other people have this experience of something suddenly leaping out >at you as a have-to-build, even in the middle of building something else? Any and all Nieuports and Morane's. I have the Temens Type I sitting next to my workbench, just waiting to get back to it. Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:19:12 -0800 From: Riordan and Michelle Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Bomb source Message-ID: <34CE8790.3C78@ricochet.net> REATON@ccmail.dsccc.com wrote: > > I was looking up some info on wwi bombs for a kit I am finishing. (frog vickers vimy) the bombs in the kit are poor. Has anyone heard of a source of bombs of the period? Am I missing something here? No, probably not. AFAIK, the only set of WWI bombs are RPM's 'Polish' (German) PuW set. Good for G, R, and maybe a few C-types. You may well have to resort to nicking the bombs (112 lb. size) from an Airfix DH4 or two (these are the ones you're probably trying to cast). Even info on Brit/Allied bombs is rare. This is one of the saving graces of the Phoebus Bombers 1914-1939 book. FWIW, the Revell Camel has a cluster of Coopers. Good luck, Toby -- --------------------------------------- This e-mail has been brought to you by - Riordan and Michelle Goodwin - ***************************** Great Gift Ideas at Jewels of the Silk Road http://www.silkroadjewels.com ***************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:34:36 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: Re: Bomb source Message-ID: >REATON@ccmail.dsccc.com wrote: >> >> I was looking up some info on wwi bombs for a kit I am finishing. (frog >>vickers vimy) the bombs in the kit are poor. Has anyone heard of a source >>of bombs of the period? Am I missing something here? > >No, probably not. AFAIK, the only set of WWI bombs are RPM's 'Polish' >(German) PuW set. Good for G, R, and maybe a few C-types. >You may well have to resort to nicking the bombs (112 lb. size) from an >Airfix DH4 or two (these are the ones you're probably trying to cast). >Even info on Brit/Allied bombs is rare. This is one of the saving graces >of the Phoebus Bombers 1914-1939 book. FWIW, the Revell Camel has a >cluster of Coopers. > >Good luck, > >Toby Eduard 1/72 Sopwith Baby kit has some spiffy looking bombs with PE fins. Can't say what is found in the 1/48 version from this maker. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:33:10 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: D.VII Anthology Message-ID: <34CE8AD6.A79@conted.gatech.edu> Thanks for your comments, Dave. You're right about this being a great book, even if it isn't perfect. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:20:35 EST From: Kr0i2 To: wwi Subject: Signing off list Message-ID: <746be5c5.34ce87e6@aol.com> Can anyone give me info on what I have to do to sign off this list. The information I have does not seem to work so I am obviously doing something incorrectly. Thanks for any help, Ed MacDonald ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:38:16 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: Our web site Message-ID: <34CE8C08.7549@conted.gatech.edu> > Wonderful job, Paul! I'll second that. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:25:11 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Toko review Message-ID: <19980127.193612.4094.3.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:11:27 -0500 Carlos Valdes writes: Thanks for the review, Carlos. Can't wait for mine to show up. > All in all, these are very good little kits, and very >affordable to >boot. Now if only Toko would come out with 1/48 subjects . . . No, nononononononono...1/72nd only. :-) <-- just kidding, I think. Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:47:18 -0500 From: bucky@mail.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: More SPAD info requested Message-ID: <199801280147.UAA11156@pease1.sr.unh.edu> At 01:48 PM 1/24/98 -0500, Patrick Gilmore wrote: > >Also, a back issue of Over the Front magazine I have has an excellent >article on the 94th squadron N28s in Toul. In this article it mentions that >there would be a second part in a future issue that would deal with the >94ths SPADs. Does anyone know if this article was ever done? Pat I was wondering the same thing. That was a great issue annd the article on the N. 28 was teriffic. Haven't heard anything about the follow-up SPAD article. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:05:26 +0000 From: "David R.L. Laws" To: wwi Subject: Re: Off topic - New WW2 types Book series Message-ID: <34CF1F05.8BB@webtime.com.au> So you wanna build a decent model of a WW 2 TYPE ? A Japanese Publisher has a new super detailing series out on a wide variety of WW 2 aircraft SPIT to MK V HE III BF 109 E and G FW 190 A/F and D MACCHI ( 200, 202 & 205 ) ME 262 P 51 HAWKER HURRICANE JU 87 ARADO etc ... Theyr'e called AERO DETAIL and the quality is truely excellent. Colour with paint chips and camoflage all the way down to the last rivet, painted fuel/ electrical/ lift point and electrical connection - Great GA's and Plans ( with sections ! ) cockpit layouts and engine details and installations with differences between marks shown - Excellent DETAIL colour pics of surviving museum examples. Thoroughly recommended for the masochistic scratch builder or super detailer REGARDS DAVID ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:04:52 -0600 From: Kenneth Hagerup To: wwi Subject: Re: D.VII Anthology Message-ID: <34CE9244.5908@prodigy.net> The new issue of FSM has an ad on page 7 from Windsock. The D.VII Anthology is on sale for $29.00 post paid air mail. My check is already ready for the mail! Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:51:27 -0800 From: "Gillian & Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: New MPM(?) 1/72 W.29 kit Message-ID: <009b01bd2b97$b21f6560$4b10c2cf@rayboorm> Can anyone compare the MPM with the Pegasus offering. I can get the MPM in the local hobby store for $25 cdn, however I would have to mail order the Pegasus and the way the canuck dollar is going I might need a mortgage. Doesnt the MPM version have lozenge that you must apply over a base coat of grey? Does this work or is it a gimmick! Thanks Ray Boorman -----Original Message----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 4:29 PM Subject: RE: New MPM(?) 1/72 W.29 kit >Randy, > >>Or, at least, new to my eyes. I saw this in the shop last weekend, and >>was wondering how good it is. Seems nice in the box, typical of the > >east-bloc technology. > > It's pretty good actually. The only error of real note is the >lack of the kink in the wings (at the position of the struts) where the >wings go to a lesser dihedral. Easily cured in about 5 minutes. > > Paul Monteagle (writing in SMI's "Wind in the Wires" column) >suggests that it lacks the thicker chord at that point as well. This may >be so, but reading the cross sections in the datafile and dividing by 48 >discovers that it *might* be out by a fraction of a millimetre, scarcely >detectable by measurement and by eye only using vivid imagination. > > The struts are also somewhat suspect. The big problem here is >that they don't actually fit the fuselage width - I replaced mine, but >they may be salvageable. Otherwise any work I did was the usual fit and >alignment problems of minor scope endemic with short run kits. > > I gave it 8/10 on the "short run injection" scale > > Shane > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:31:23 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: wwi Subject: RE: New MPM(?) 1/72 W.29 kit Message-ID: <199801280341.NAA04677@mimmon.mim.com.au> Ray, >Can anyone compare the MPM with the Pegasus offering. Sorry, no but: >Doesnt the MPM version have lozenge that you must apply over a base coat of >grey? Does this work or is it a gimmick! Yes it does, and it works extremely well. The hex comes in two colours plus clear. MPM recommend a Humbrol paint colour which is equivalent to one of the FS range and so easily available in several other paint makers lines. Compared to Americal/Gryphon the two colours preprinted are excellent matches, while the Humbrol colour (for the light grey) is neutral compared to a slightly warmer tone on the A/G hex sheets. Decals went on like a dream though as with all the Propag stuff ,be quick because it goes down like a White House staffer ;-) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:50:27 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: Lindbergh Jenny Message-ID: <34CEAB03.4CB0@bellsouth.net> Charles Duckworth wrote: > > The Lindbergh Jenny is a great introduction kit for someone getting back > into the WW1 hobby, cheap, > accurate and not a complex kit until one get into the rigging. I built one > acouple of years ago after not touching this model since I was probably 13. > After thinking about it I believe I had more fun the second time around > due to all the sources. It's just a shame that Lindbergh didn't pursue to > WWI models more but am sure the JN was the money maker the HE-111 or > many-riveted ME-262 were. > > If anyone is building this kit let me know and I'll list some book sources. > > Charlie > > > > ---------- > > From: Paul Schwartzkopf > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Re: Lindbergh Jenny > > Date: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 7:58 AM > > > > > Do other people have this experience of something suddenly leaping out > > > at you as a have-to-build, even in the middle of building something > > > else? Sandy > > > > Most definitely! This usually occurs with me after watching an old > > movie or TV show, especially if I already have the kit on my shelves. > > > > I would be very interested is seeing some pictures once you get this > > conversion completed! > > > > > > Paul A. Schwartzkopf Charlie, I currently have a Lindberg Jenny on the back burner until I come up with a suitable powerplant(Robert K. Any word on those notes yet?). So far, all I have is a scratchbuilt cockpit within the joined fuselage halves. But I have since taken some photos of a half covered Jenny and the OX-5. My modeling skills have also improved since I started it so I may start all over from the beginning before I get too far. I don't want to build something I wouldn't be proud to show to the experts on this list. Ernest "I support the Theory of Evolution. And they can have my opposable thumb when they pry it from my cold dead hand." ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 866 *********************