WWI Digest 865 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: OT : Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 F by Carlos Valdes 2) Re: Mannock by Joey Valenciano 3) Sierra Scale Models Hansa Brandenburg C-I by Shane Weier 4) Re: New Smer Double Kit by kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley Barrett) 5) New Kits by Carlos Valdes 6) Re: God in Details, etc. by TPT PUMPER 7) D.VII Anthology by Dave Watts 8) Handley Page 0/400 by rnrniles@2xtreme.net (Russell W Niles) 9) Re: OT : Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 F by rnrniles@2xtreme.net (Russell W Niles) 10) Re: OT : Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 F by "Gillian & Ray Boorman" 11) Re: Revell Sopwith Tripe notes by Riordan and Michelle Goodwin 12) Re: Sierra Scale Models Hansa Brandenburg C-I by Joey Valenciano 13) Re: Revell Sopwith Tripe notes CORRECTION by Riordan and Michelle Goodwin 14) Re: OT : Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 F by Bob Pearson 15) Re: Handley Page 0/400 by KarrArt 16) day late by Charles Hart 17) Re: OT : Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 F by Ernest Thomas 18) Re: Americal French Markings: by Ernest Thomas 19) Re: Handley Page 0/400 by rnrniles@2xtreme.net (Russell W Niles) 20) Sqn.Cdr Reggie Marix by Bob Pearson 21) Re: New Kits by Graham Nash 22) Re: Handley Page 0/400 by mbittner@juno.com 23) Aeroclub Brisfit by "Sandy Adam" 24) April 21st by "Sandy Adam" 25) Re: Handley Page 0/400 by Kenneth Hagerup 26) Lindbergh Jenny by "Sandy Adam" 27) Re: OT : Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 F by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 28) Re: Lindbergh Jenny by "Paul Schwartzkopf" 29) reference by fedders 30) Re: Aeroclub Brisfit/Tom's Pfalz by TPT PUMPER 31) Re: Lindbergh Jenny by Suvoroff 32) Re: Americal French Markings: by fedders ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:43:20 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: OT : Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 F Message-ID: <34CD57D8.1705@conted.gatech.edu> Don RInker wrote: > > >> Sorry for this "off topic" request, but I'm looking for some > >>information about H-J M's Bf 109 F. Do you know if there is .. > > Oh, that pathetic wretch Marseille.. Just another overrated hun with myriad > metal problems, not at all like the God and Honor bound pilots of the UK. > I heard Marseille drowned puppies and kicked blind people too............. Good one, Don. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:22:27 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: Mannock Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980127112227.006ed010@philonline.com.ph> >(Sorry about the translation, best I could do in a hurry.) >The book is by: Helmer Grundt Spang and is titled "Den hemmelige kampen" >("The Secret Fight/Battle") Great reading Tom, thanks! ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:30:16 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: Sierra Scale Models Hansa Brandenburg C-I Message-ID: <199801270341.NAA08401@mimmon.mim.com.au> Hi all, I had cause last weekend to thumb through Barry's price list before ordering one of Bobs nice kits. Most of them it's reasonably clear what is what, but the H-B C-I is a mystery to me. Looking at FMP's giant A/H tome shows that there were several quite different series of this aircraft. Anyone got the kit and any idea *which* series? Bob, are you still out there? Regards Shane "I don't care how many times they go Up diddly Up Up, they're still gits" (Capt. Edmund Blackadder, RFC (attached) ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:33:20 -0500 From: kevinkim@interlog.com (Kevin & Kimberley Barrett) To: wwi Subject: Re: New Smer Double Kit Message-ID: Barry informed us: >The New Smer Double is the Eduard Trip & the old Smer/Aurora(Copy) Alb D-3. >Heck of a combo, one great kit ( Trip) & one 1960's Alb. > >Keep Modeling >Barry >Rosemont Hobby Barry, Thanks for the info. Too bad about the Albatros. Since we've got you on the line, what's your take on the new Schiffer Publishing Dr.I book? (Apologies if this subject has already been comprehensively delt with on the list.) Kevin Barrett. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:12:48 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: New Kits Message-ID: <34CD5EC0.7CF3@conted.gatech.edu> Just took a look at the Hannants site and found three interesting new releases: Eduard 1/72 stipped down Fokker D.VIII Flashback 1/48 naval Sop. Pup Merlin 1/72 FE8 That last one might attract some attention. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:33:52 EST From: TPT PUMPER To: wwi Subject: Re: God in Details, etc. Message-ID: Hi Matt Z! > I've noticed a slender stripe, probably > painted, running chordwise and near the tips of propellers on some Aus./Hun. > > aircraft. These prop. lines seem to be peculiar to A/H aircraft only, > perhaps an interesting distinction. What color are they? (They always > appear darker in value than the props.) This stripe denotes a factory owned prop, possibly an experimental model. You "shouldn't" see a stripe on a combat machine's prop, but I won't say never. I have seen references to such stripes being red, black, or white. Austria/Hungary conducted "cutting edge" research in propeller design, the result being that some of their props looked quite ahead of their time. As I am about to move, my references are in taped boxes, so I apologize about the short answer off the top of my head. I do not recall the third line you mention, but I would be glad to look it up once I get settled into the new shop--I mean house! For now, if it appears in a photo of the machine you are modeling, add it onto your model. (It is not a fuel line. That much I can say.) Have Fun!! IRA A/H fan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:52:25 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: D.VII Anthology Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980126225225.007bf7d0@192.168.0.5> This is definitely a fine work. A few points I would add, on page 6, 2nd column, end of 2nd paragraph, they state, "Two sheet aluminium boxes.....and the front one receiving the empty belts and ejected cartridge cases." To the best of my knowledge, the ejected cartridge cases were ejected out into the wind stream, and not reclaimed, or captured. on page 15, photograph/caption no.10, certainly this is a photo of an very early D.VII, I believe to be /250 to /255, but his point of the gun troughs being low because of motor height, and later being higher on the "D.IIIau", I can't believe to be correct. The D.IIIa and D.IIIau are the same height. The first D.IIIau was not fitted till aircraft /372, this was about the 140th D.VII made, and the 1st "au" motor wasn't shipped to Fokker till May 3rd. I believe these "recesses" were dropped much earlier. It may be possible the BMW motor is taller, but I don't know that. The first BMW fitted, was an experimental Nr.V5, installed on airframe no.4, aircraft Nr.231, and was certainly used for evaluation, and comparison. If there were spatial confines that presented problems, they would have been seen them at that time. I think it's possible that they dropped the recesses to simplify production, but it's possible the BMW motor was a factor. Certainly the later production D.IIIa's used in some of the early production, had a large vertical air pump, (you can identify it easily in photos, by seeing it beside the radiator filler), and it's possible in a attempt to keep it out of the pilots line of sight, they mounted the motor lower. On the late D.IIIa motors they had a double opposed horizontal air pump, and it no longer protruded up in the view of the pilot. Out of the first 20 motors shipped to Fokker only 3 had the double horizontal air pumps, by the time shipments reached 50, 18 were "double's", after this it quickly climbed. on page 15, photograph/caption no.11, this is an early D.VII with a Mercedes, with a exhaust that discharges on the lower side, and not a high saxophone type. It also has the early gas tank, with the oil tank built into it. One problem they had with this tank was, since the fuel was under pressure, if the inner partition seam gave out, the gas would be forced into the oil tank, rise to the top, vaporize, and stream out the oil breather, (visible at the lower left of the photo), and sometimes ignite, creating a flame thrower/blow torch effect. That'll wake you up at 10,000 meters, not to mention warm you up. on page 15, photograph/caption no.12, the point they don't make, while talking about the gun butt pads, is the fact that the guns are l.M.G. 08's, not l.M.G. 08/15's. That is highly unusual, and would be the extreme exception to the rule. on page 16, photograph/caption no.14, werk Nr.3384 is quoted as possible, but Fokker werk Nr.3384 was most likely a late Fok.D.VIII, maybe it's an O.A.W. werk Nr., not sure. on page 63, excellent 4 view drawings, the enlarged rigging label, this is good, but this was made from the Fokker archives, and is quite correct, but she made her drawing/copy directly from the Fokker draftsman's copy, and it shows the drawing title, Nr., date, etc. at the lower right. The version that would have been applied to the aircraft would not have had this information. My points are not so much errors with the work, as much as elaboration on a great work. Dave W., D.VIIologist ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:06:07 -0800 From: rnrniles@2xtreme.net (Russell W Niles) To: wwi Subject: Handley Page 0/400 Message-ID: <19980127040605984.AAA85@147.usr4.2xtreme.net> Greetings all. Someone, and I apologize for not remembering who it was, sent out a request not to long ago regarding info on the subject. I knew that I had the IPMS Quarterly that had the article, but could not find it anywhere in my den. This evening, in digging around for another article, I came across the lost issue of the Quarterly. Now, if the member who is out there still needs a copy of this article, I would be glad to photocopy it and get it out s-mail for him. Just let me know. Russ Niles IPMS 4450 rnrniles@2xtreme.net Too close for missles....switching to guns. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:10:37 -0800 From: rnrniles@2xtreme.net (Russell W Niles) To: wwi Subject: Re: OT : Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 F Message-ID: <19980127041036252.AAA225@147.usr4.2xtreme.net> > Hi all ! > > Sorry for this "off topic" request, but I'm looking for some information >about H-J M's Bf 109 F. Do you know if there is any decal sheet available >in 1/48 scale? > Any help would be appreciated. > > TIA ! > > Best regards, > > Alexandre - atcampos@nutecnet.com.br > > Yes Alexandre, Super Scale did his markings included in a sheet for 109F's and G's. However, you will have to look in their catalog as I do not know the exact sheet number. Hope this helps. Russ Niles IPMS 4450 rnrniles@2xtreme.net Too close for missles....switching to guns. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:11:29 -0800 From: "Gillian & Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: OT : Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 F Message-ID: <00da01bd2ad9$b9789840$6210c2cf@rayboorm> Ah that must be the 109 DR1 now was it bright red or did it have a yellow cowling. Running away very fast! :=) Ray Boorman -----Original Message----- From: mbittner@juno.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 6:47 PM Subject: Re: OT : Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 F >On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:15:03 -0500 "Alexandre " > writes: > >> Sorry for this "off topic" request, but I'm looking for some >>information about H-J M's Bf 109 F. Do you know if there is any decal >sheet >>available in 1/48 scale? > >AH...AH...AHHHHHHHHHHH > >My brain just stopped. Not only the Bf 10thingie was mentioned, but so >was Braille Scale! > >AH...AH...AHHHHHHHHHHH > > >Matt Bittner > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:17:36 -0800 From: Riordan and Michelle Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Revell Sopwith Tripe notes Message-ID: <34CD5FE0.707@ricochet.net> mbittner@juno.com wrote: > > One more item I wanted to point out. When I built mine years ago, I also > replaced the axel assembly to make it look more "Sopwith". Forgot to mention the axle. Thanks Matt. -- --------------------------------------- This e-mail has been brought to you by - Riordan and Michelle Goodwin - ***************************** Great Gift Ideas at Jewels of the Silk Road http://www.silkroadjewels.com ***************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:35:16 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: Sierra Scale Models Hansa Brandenburg C-I Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980127123516.006ef7b8@philonline.com.ph> Hi Shane, >I had cause last weekend to thumb through Barry's price list before >ordering one of Bobs nice kits. Most of them it's reasonably clear what >is what, but the H-B C-I is a mystery to me. Looking at FMP's giant A/H >tome shows that there were several quite different series of this >aircraft. If you've got an eye for this kit, it's a nice large one. >Anyone got the kit and any idea *which* series? The kit has parts to make a 29, 329, and 429 series, different top cowls and gun rings for these models. the rest of the parts are generic. A short review: Mind you, the parts are still on the mega flash so I don't know how it'll all match up. Here's what you get: sheet #1 - wing halves for upper & lower wing. sheet #2 - cockpit floor, bulkheads, dashboard, pilot seat, wheel halves for a pair, horiz. & vert. tail, fuselage halves bearing the series 29 cowl, series 329 & 429 cowls with their corresponing dasboards (dashboards are not much, just flat more or less crescent shaped pieces of plastic, no instrument positions), 2 gun rings, baby coffin halves, "bullet" topwing fuel tank halves, halves for a radiator, patterns for undercarriage axle and struts. Wing ribs on my kit are very subtle, almost non existent. They could be enhanced w/ some painting trick or colored pencils. injected plastic: prop, crankcase halves, cylinder heads, exhaust, manifold, Schwarzlose gun w/o jacket, ammo drum, mg handles. A lot of flash, bad news as far as the cylinder heads are concerned. I can't see the shape of the parts too clearly because it's moulded in semi transparent clear plastic, but the parts could prove to be nice ones once cleaned up and painted. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:49:17 -0800 From: Riordan and Michelle Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Re: Revell Sopwith Tripe notes CORRECTION Message-ID: <34CD674D.23E@ricochet.net> Toby and Michelle Goodwin wrote: > P.S. Testor's Rust + Testor's Rubber = fair match for PC10. PC10 > actually "iron oxide with a touch of lamp black." In case anyone has decided I'm finally off my nut and can't tell my PCs apart, the above is a typo and is actually about PC-12. For those of you who didn't correct me out of politeness, thanks. You other lot should be ashamed of yourselves! Cheers, -- --------------------------------------- This e-mail has been brought to you by - Toby and Michelle Goodwin - ***************************** Great Gift Ideas at Jewels of the Silk Road http://www.silkroadjewels.com ***************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:29:05 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: OT : Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 F Message-ID: <05290598581373@KAIEN.COM> Boy it sure sounds like we have an athletic bunch on the list with lots of running taking place. :-) ---------- > From: "Gillian & Ray Boorman" > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: OT : Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 F > Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:18:35 -0500 > > Ah that must be the 109 DR1 now was it bright red or did it have a yellow > cowling. > > Running away very fast! :=) > > Ray Boorman ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:47:42 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: Handley Page 0/400 Message-ID: <86c27771.34cd74ff@aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-26 23:26:44 EST, you write: << Greetings all. Someone, and I apologize for not remembering who it was, sent out a request not to long ago regarding info on the subject. I knew that I had the IPMS Quarterly that had the article, but could not find it anywhere in my den. This evening, in digging around for another article, I came across the lost issue of the Quarterly. Now, if the member who is out there still needs a copy of this article, I would be glad to photocopy it and get it out s-mail for him. Just let me know. Russ Niles IPMS 4450 rnrniles@2xtreme.net Too close for missles....switching to guns. Hello Russ 'twas I- Robert Karr. Thanks- could you tell me a little about the article? Is it about the 1/72 Airfix kit? Even though I'm scratchbuilding this monster in 1/48- ANY info might be useful. So, yes please, I would love to have a copy of the article and if there is anything you need, let me know and I'll try my best to see what I can do.Also let me know about photocopying and postage costs and I shall do right by you on this too. Thanks Much Robert Karr 6662 Sutton Westminster Ca 92683 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:16:11 -0700 From: Charles Hart To: wwi Subject: day late Message-ID: Wishing belated Happy Australia Day, January 26, to our list members in the Land Down Under. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:40:46 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: OT : Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 F Message-ID: <34CD816E.6E13@bellsouth.net> Gillian & Ray Boorman wrote: > > Ah that must be the 109 DR1 now was it bright red or did it have a yellow > cowling. > > Running away very fast! :=) ROTFL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 01:13:51 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: Americal French Markings: Message-ID: <34CD892F.54CF@bellsouth.net> mbittner@juno.com wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:40:37 -0500 Patrick Padovan > writes: > > >P.S. Say, wasn't that Rene Fonk a real stinker, or what? > > Cripes. Now you've done it, Patrick. Why don't we let the aces rest for > awhile? Let's get back to talking about the best series of planes ever > produced; the Nieuports! :-) > > Matt Bittner > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Speaking of N.'s I heard E.V.R. once straffed an orphanage. (duck!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:22:47 -0800 From: rnrniles@2xtreme.net (Russell W Niles) To: wwi Subject: Re: Handley Page 0/400 Message-ID: <19980127072245340.AAA243@65.usr6.2xtreme.net> > Hello Russ > 'twas I- Robert Karr. Thanks- could you tell me a little about the article? >Is it about the 1/72 Airfix kit? Even though I'm scratchbuilding this monster >in 1/48- ANY info might be useful. >So, yes please, I would love to have a copy of the article and if there is >anything you need, let me know and I'll try my best to see what I can do.Also >let me know about photocopying and postage costs and I shall do right by you >on this too. >Thanks Much >Robert Karr >6662 Sutton >Westminster Ca 92683 Robert Article is about the Airfix kit, and was written by IPMS UK in 1969. It has several photos including one of the interior. Also a general arrangement drawing of the tail bracing, and another drawing of how the bomb was slung. All in all a fair article considering its 30 years old. Hopefully the copy machine will do the photos well. I will get it off to you tomorrow or Wednesday. No problem on the postage or copy costs, I feel that the list helps each other out in these kind of things, and what I do for you today will be repaid some other day to me. Actually has already been, as I received some info on N17's many months ago from Riordan I believe. By the way, are you planning on attending IPMS Nationals in July? I would like to see as many of us as are going to try and get together for breakfast, lunch or dinner at least once while we are there. Russ Niles IPMS 4450 rnrniles@2xtreme.net Too close for missles....switching to guns. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:36:52 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Sqn.Cdr Reggie Marix Message-ID: <08365221581691@KAIEN.COM> Greetings All, After getting Richard Bell Davies' autobiography (number 2 guy in No.3 WIng RNAS), I now find I have a loose end to tie up in my No.3 Wing RNAS article. Sometime in early July 1916, Sqn.Cdr Reggie Marix lead the first contingent from Manston to Paris. While there he was offered the chance to test a new French aircraft and crashed, resulting in the loss of a leg. I haven't seen any mention of this in the records of No.3 Wing that I have, so am wondering if anyone can fill in the date and aircraft type. However I find a letter dated 15 September with a signature that looks like it says "Marix" giving totals of available aircraft in England. Would he have recovered from a bad crash and amputation by this date? regards, Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:00:56 -0800 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: Re: New Kits Message-ID: <199801270858.AA23936@egate2.citicorp.com> Carlos Valdes wrote: > > Just took a look at the Hannants site and found three interesting new > releases: > > Eduard 1/72 stipped down Fokker D.VIII > Flashback 1/48 naval Sop. Pup > Merlin 1/72 FE8 > > That last one might attract some attention. > Carlos You missed the Merlin Roland D.XVI. :^) God, rara avis, but dubious accuracy manufacturer. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 04:55:08 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Handley Page 0/400 Message-ID: <19980127.050416.14278.3.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 27 Jan 1998 02:26:47 -0500 rnrniles@2xtreme.net (Russell W Niles) writes: >By the way, are you planning on attending IPMS Nationals in July? I >would like to see as many of us as are going to try and get together for >breakfast, lunch or dinner at least once while we are there. We tried that in 1997. It didn't work. All of us couldn't seem to meet at one place, even though we had that place already picked out. However, there were some of us that did get a chance to meet. Eli, Brian, Erik, John and Jim Maas (is he still on the list?), et.al. I say organize it anyway; you could get a couple together. Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:59:38 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Aeroclub Brisfit Message-ID: <199801271120.LAA27490@beryl.sol.co.uk> I spoke to John Adams yesterday who told me the first 400 Brisfits are now made and just waiting for decals before being released. He wants to keep pricing details for release, but says he is very happy with way it has turned out. There are extra bits for a Mark IV as well as WW1. Should be in shops in February. (Sorry Shane!) I phoned him to ask about my Tom's Pfalz D.VIII which arrived with no lozenge transfers - although Windsock review shows them. John couldn't check his batch as they had all been sent out, but said he would speak to TW. Can anybody who has bought this kit in US tell me if loz trannies are included? The other subjects we spoke of were the TC Models 1/48 Short 184 and Felixstowe F2a which are pretty expensive and I wanted John's thoughts on them before buying unseen. He felt 70GBP was probably fair for a big F2a resin (and 38GBP for the 184) but said the kits were a bit heavy with chunky rib details. So all in all, I shall wait until I can see one of these before forking out the hard-earned. (This is typical of John to give a totally unbiased view, and part of the reason why I would buy from him as first choice UK supplier every time.) He also has the 1/48 DH5 and DH9 in his new catalogue with TBA dates so these look fairly certain! With Bob Norgren making vacs again (Rumpler C.IV -can't wait), things look pretty busy over the next few months! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:26:03 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: April 21st Message-ID: <199801271120.LAA27487@beryl.sol.co.uk> It is the 80th anniversary of the 80-ace's demise this April and WITHOUT SAYING ANOTHER WORD ABOUT THE MAN HIMSELF, are any of you doing anything re your models to mark the event? I ask since I have been asked to mount a display in our local public library during the month of April and suggest that many others may be doing something similar - but if not, it might be worth clubs or individuals considering this as a way of perhaps raising interest and bringing new modellers in by the usual MvR route. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 07:19:57 -0600 From: Kenneth Hagerup To: wwi Subject: Re: Handley Page 0/400 Message-ID: <34CDDEFD.271F@prodigy.net> Russell W Niles wrote: > Article is about the Airfix kit, and was written by IPMS UK in 1969. It has > several photos including one of the interior. Also a general arrangement > drawing of the tail bracing, and another drawing of how the bomb was slung. > All in all a fair article considering its 30 years old. Hopefully the copy > machine will do the photos well. Russell, I seem to be accumulating Airfix HPs (all of which I'll build someday, honest). Could I also get a copy of the article? Thanks, Ken Hagerup 11419 South 43rd Ave Omaha, NE 68123 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:25:16 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Lindbergh Jenny Message-ID: <199801271329.NAA02449@beryl.sol.co.uk> Isn't the quality of this kit astonishing for something that is now 40 years old? I was in the middle of my Sopwith series with the Eduard Tripe and BM Camels well advanced to main construction stage when suddenly the old JN-4 profile threw itself at me and demanded to be read. Actually so did the back volumes of C&C I'd just bought with Canadian Jenny plans etc. I couldn't stop thinking about the ambulance examples in the Profile and the thought of a nice big two-seater in white/brown with red crosses to sit amongst all the lozenges and PC-10 was just too much. Down off the shelf came Mr Lindbergh's creation and two weeks later I am about to give it the first overall white coat. I couldn't find internals for the ambulance but assumed there would be some sort of platform to lay the stretcher on under the removeable turtledecking and built a structure to represent this with belts etc. I am knocked out with enthusiasm again at how good the Jenny kit is. Even the troughs on upper wings filled easily and are invisible now. Lovely softish plastic to work with too. This must be about the ideal kit for anybody trying a biplane for the first time. Inexpensive, easy and impressive when built. The C&C plans are superb but isn't it strange how little has been published AFAIK on the JN-4, considering how many were built and the post-war uses they were put to. Would have thought the Jenny was due a Datafile before things like RE5's and Halb Cl.IV's. Do other people have this experience of something suddenly leaping out at you as a have-to-build, even in the middle of building something else? Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 07:56:50 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: OT : Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 F Message-ID: <199801271358.HAA26094@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> Several years ago, a decal sheet was issued with several (3?) different markings for his aircraft, and also included clear/metal parts for converting the 1/48 Airfix 109F. I believe it was issued by War Eagle and contained Scale Master decals. (I only know this because I covered my copy of the decal sheet with a recently purchased 1/72 MPM HB W29!) ;-) Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:00:31 +0000 From: "Paul Schwartzkopf" To: wwi Subject: Re: Lindbergh Jenny Message-ID: <199801271402.IAA26133@tscrypt1.transcrypt.com> > Do other people have this experience of something suddenly leaping out > at you as a have-to-build, even in the middle of building something > else? Sandy Most definitely! This usually occurs with me after watching an old movie or TV show, especially if I already have the kit on my shelves. I would be very interested is seeing some pictures once you get this conversion completed! Paul A. Schwartzkopf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:07:45 -0600 (CST) From: fedders To: models Subject: reference Message-ID: For Sandy and other interested parties. Yesterday I Said that the English produced more fighters than other types and the opposite was true of the Germans and French. In fact, the numbers of pursuit aircraft, observation aircraft, and bombers (respectively) for England in WWI are: 55%, 23%, and 22%. For France the numbers are 34%, 51%, and 15%. While for Germany they are 42%, 50%, and 8%. Reference is "The Great War in the Air" by John Morrow, page 346. Morrow is a real historian (makes his living at it at a university), and is an expert on aircraft production (and many other areas) in WWI. peter fedders ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:05:55 EST From: TPT PUMPER To: wwi Subject: Re: Aeroclub Brisfit/Tom's Pfalz Message-ID: <56cd832e.34cde9c5@aol.com> Hi Sandy! I bought the Tom's Pfalz D.VIII through Barry at Rosemont in September. The kit did indeed come with lozenge (by Aeromaster, I believe). FWIW, there can be found in WWI AERO #158 a several photos of the Pfalz production facility including at least one view of a D.VIII fuselage with only one half of the shell installed, revealing some interior detail. This is the only interior reference I have. Hope this helps . . . Have Fun!! IRA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:52:26 EST From: Suvoroff To: wwi Subject: Re: Lindbergh Jenny Message-ID: <6d022450.34cde69c@aol.com> "Do other people have this experience of something suddenly leaping out at you as a have-to-build, even in the middle of building something else?" Sandy Yes, that is why I have over a dozen projects working all at once and none of them ever seem to get finished. Yours, James ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:35:21 -0600 (CST) From: fedders To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Americal French Markings: Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Jan 1998, Patrick Padovan wrote: > Greetings, gents! As much as I hate to interupt the fascinating and > productive debate as to which historical figures were demonic assassins, > and which were shell-shocked basket cases, I'm going to do so anyway. A > few issues back, I saw a reference in FSM's "New Products" listing about a > recent addition to Americal's product line, in the way of French > Escadrille markings in 1/72 & 1/48 scale. I haven't gotten around to > ordering any of these yet, as I intend to do, but I'm wondering if any of > you have them or have seen them, and could provide some insight as to what > I might expect to find when I get mine? Anybody? I think that you can expect the decals to be very accurate peter > Regards, Patrick > > P.S. Say, wasn't that Rene Fonk a real stinker, or what? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Patrick Padovan > Interlibrary Loan Associate > > Timberland Regional Library Voice: 360-943-5001 > 415 Airdustrial Way SW FAX: 360-586-6838 > Olympia, WA 98501-5799 e-mail: ppadovan@timberland.lib.wa.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 865 *********************