WWI Digest 857 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: JvBertrab's purple Albatross by Joey Valenciano 2) Fabric wrinkles by Joey Valenciano 3) Re: Color decals NEW info by mbittner@juno.com 4) Cooper State Spandau's by mbittner@juno.com 5) Star Strutter/Hat In The Ring by "Leonard Endy" 6) RE: Active & Passive Undersides by Shane Weier 7) Web page by mbittner@juno.com 8) Brandenburg D.I's by mbittner@juno.com 9) Re: Brandenburg D.I's by Joey Valenciano 10) Re: Brandenburg D.I's by Hirohisa Ozaki 11) help pleeeeease!!!! by Joey Valenciano 12) Re: Brandenburg D.I's by mbittner@juno.com 13) Re: Web page by KarrArt 14) Re: Fabric wrinkles by KarrArt 15) spad 13 colours by "michell steel" 16) Re: spad 13 colours by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 17) Re: spad 13 colours by Bob Pearson 18) Re: spad 13 colours by Ernest Thomas 19) Re: 1/72 FE-8 by Graham Nash 20) One more to make the syndicate by Graham Nash 21) Photos by Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton 22) Re: Fabric wrinkles by Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton 23) RE: Active & Passive Undersides by Mick Fauchon 24) Re: Active & Passive Undersides by mbittner@juno.com 25) Re: Photos by mbittner@juno.com 26) Re: Web page by mbittner@juno.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:25:59 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: JvBertrab's purple Albatross Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980120192559.006bad88@philonline.com.ph> >Hawker died because he made the most basic of all fighter >pilot errors - he and his compatriots were so eager to >"jump" the German observation planes that they were >pursuing that they failed to "check their six" and got >"jumped" themselves. MvR was simply a fine fighter pilot >who took maximum advantage of a tactical opportunity >but he was no murderer. Right, well put. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 05:31:45 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Fabric wrinkles Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980121053145.006dcfa8@philonline.com.ph> >One thing I do see is the fuselage wrinkling which I sometimes will try to >duplicate. And what are the ways that this could be done? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:36:00 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Color decals NEW info Message-ID: <19980120.164012.4062.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 20 Jan 1998 13:58:40 -0500 Don RInker writes: >THey have a nice site that talks about using a Thermal wax >or Color Copier to transfer designs to their heat resistant >decal paper. You could still do the design on your art soft >ware, and either print it out on a bubblejet, or save it >to disk and take it to a store like knkos that has software >and color copying cabability. Not an option at our Kinko's. They refuse to put anything put paper in their color copiers. You might want to try a smaller "mom and pop" store. Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:15:33 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Cooper State Spandau's Message-ID: <19980120.181729.4230.3.mbittner@juno.com> I received my first set of Cooper State Spandau's in the mail today. These are beautiful. If you don't mind rolling p/e, and attaching all the other fiddly bits, these are for you. Great detail, and they even include an ammo belt! A few gripes: the p/e is nickel silver and not brass, stronger yes, but in 1/72nd a little more difficult to roll; no barrel; and last a minor quibble - it should have come in a "zip-lock" bag. Overall, though, this is a great set, a must for building German a/c with exposed Spandau's. Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 00:35:49 GMT From: "Leonard Endy" To: wwi Subject: Star Strutter/Hat In The Ring Message-ID: <34c64237.810977@legend.firstsaga.com> On Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:06:28 -0500, you wrote: > >I for one would like to know which version is makes (28 or 65; which = 65). > > >Matt Bittner It's a 28 series w/o a doubt. The third order of the 28's, 28.49 thru 28.72, have a few minor differences. Stay tuned... Also thanks to everyone who offered info for the Hat In The Ring markings. Len Endy lfendy@firstsaga.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:28:46 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: wwi Subject: RE: Active & Passive Undersides Message-ID: <199801210138.LAA05390@mimmon.mim.com.au> Bob, >Attention Shane ! ! ! ! Please repost your thesis on this subject for the >enlightenment of the newcomers, or direct them to the date you originally >sent it. :-) Oh God, not again. Every time I open my mouth on this subject it starts a catfight. Okay, here we are, from last June - but please note that in many modelling things we seek to represent things in a fashion which the eye expects to see, whether or not it's really that way at all. Also, the fabric is *taut* not *saggy* at any point on any flying surface which is expected to fly - it simply won't provide lift if the fabric can flap and balloon about. Any argument that an aircraft sitting about in the damp of a French airfield might have saggy fabric is also a load of tosh - all combatants took great care to ensure they could house the aircraft away from such ill effects just so the damn things *would* still fly. Wrinkles on laced fuselages are another kettle of fish of course. >regards, >The Foul Imposter (read your archives to see where this is from) Yerrrs, well that'd be 11 July ;-) I dare say that despite your intimation on that occasion I now concede you to be a WW1 modeller Shane > ---------- > From: Shane Weier[SMTP:sdw@qld.mim.com.au] > Sent: Monday, 23 June 1997 10:40 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Now, will I wish I never brought it up? > > GDay all, > > <> > > With the memories of my recent trip to Canberra fresh in mind I'd like > to recount a small experiment I did whilst in the aircraft hall at the > AWM. > > Subject: Albatros D.Va wing > > The wing is covered in doped fabric, as taught as a drum and > thoroughly > doped to the point where no texture whatever is apparent (though the > wave of the cloth is visible through the clear dope) > > Part One: Take one small flashlight and have a research assistant hold > it at the wingtip glancing along the fabric on the underside of the > wing. Result, the shadowed areas are along each wing rib position, > most > notably at about half chord. > > Part Two: Place a 1 metre straight edge along the wing at mid chord, > so > that it lightly touches the fabric at each high point along its > length. > Measure the indentations along the way to find out the maximum > variation > from a straight line. Result, at three points the fabric was indented > 4mm from the high points. > > Not to put too fine a point on it, the RIBS are INset by 4mm from the > highest points of the fabric. In 1/48 scale this equates to about 3 > thousandths of an inch, so any model with ribs indicated had better > have > them mighty fine. And one should be very careful about *raised* ribs > on > the underside of any WW1 wing, however subtly it is done, because it's > probably wrong. > > FWIW the reason that the ribs show on the upper surface is that the > doped fabric, as it tightens, seeks to form a straight line between > the > front and rear of the wing. Since the upper rib contour is convex, the > fabric pulls below the line of the ribs which stick OUT. > > On the undersurface, same deal, except the surface is concave. The > fabric taughtens and tries to form a straight line between leading > (LE) > and trailing (TE) edges. Since it's attached to the ribs, it stays put > along the ribs, but in between it pulls below the line of the ribs. > However, it's less obvious because the undersurface curve is flatter > (and has to be of course). > > I looked for this effect on *all* the aircraft wings while I was > there. > The greater the undercamber, the greater the effect. The shorter the chord the greater the effect. But most of them > look virtually flat (along the span, not the chord) unless you take > steps to check it. However, where riblets are present along the LE, > they tend to stick out, as do the undersurfaces of the ribs in up to > about the first 1/5 of the chord because the underside is sometimes > convex at that point. > > Me, I'm going to sand the undersides of all my wings flat and paint in > tapes - it seems that all the old 1/72 vacforms I built have the most > accurate wing > > Regards > > Shane > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:36:03 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Web page Message-ID: <19980120.193603.4230.2.mbittner@juno.com> I have updated both the Revell/ESCI Nie.17 correction/conversion article, as well as the Nieuport 28 article. All are under a new web page on my site: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3894/ww1articles.html Plus, all WW1 images are at: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3894/ww1.html Link to them if you must. ;-) Matt Bittner P.S. Sorry about the commercial at the end of my mail. Looks like Juno added their own sig without letting the membership know, nor have any control over it. Ah well, that's business. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 20:07:51 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Brandenburg D.I's Message-ID: <19980120.200752.4230.3.mbittner@juno.com> Attached is an HTML page I created to show the various Brandenburg D.I models, and what type they build out of the box. As you can see, there are a number of holes in the models I don't have direct contact with. Can anyone help? Matt Bittner

Brandenburg D.I Models

There were two major type of Brandenburg D.I's: the Type 28 - manufactured by Phönix - and the Type 65 - manufactured by Brandenburg. The Type 65 was broken out even further. There were two major sub-types of the Type 65: the Type 65.5 series, and the 65.7 series. For a good reference on the differences, please see the Flying Machines Press book, Brandenburg D.I in their Great War Aircraft in Profile #2 series. The following is a break down of known Brandenburg D.I kits, and what type they build into "out of the box".

Kit Manufacturer Scale Brandenburg D.I Type Production Status Production Medium
C.A. Atkins 1/72nd ??? No Longer In Production White Metal
Classic Plane 1/72nd Type 28 In Production? Vacuform
Formaplane 1/72nd ??? No Longer In Production Vacuform
Pyrangelo 1/72nd ??? No Longer In Production White Metal
Toko 1/72nd ??? Not Yet In Production Injected Plastic
Eduard 1/48th Type 28 In Production Injected Plastic
Sierra Scale 1/48th ??? No Longer In Production Injected Plastic
_____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:32:59 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: Brandenburg D.I's Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980121103259.0068cf70@philonline.com.ph> Hi Matt, This is from your html file: Kit Manufacturer: Sierra Scale Scale: 1/48th Brandenburg D.I Type: ??? Production Status: No Longer In Production Production Medium: Injected Plastic I haven't seen this kit but if it's from Sierra, it's probably a vacform and not injected plastic, right? Thanks for the html file, hope you complete it soon. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 98 11:30:30 +0900 From: Hirohisa Ozaki To: wwi Subject: Re: Brandenburg D.I's Message-ID: <199801210232.LAA02716@zoo.miln.mei.co.jp> Matt, >Attached is an HTML page I created to show the various Brandenburg D.I >models, and what type they build out of the box. As you can see, there >are a number of holes in the models I don't have direct contact with. >Can anyone help? Sierra kit is vacuform. I don't know about differences of H.B D.I subtype and don't have FMP's book. Appearances of Sierra kit are looked as like Eduard kit. Hiro. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:45:44 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: help pleeeeease!!!! Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980121104544.0069d208@philonline.com.ph> Hi all, I give up, I'm on the lookout for some off topic info. Went searching over the rest of the internet to no avail. My last resort was to resort the the best group of guys on the list [me inclusive :-)]. I hope that you could help, of course, the info, being of an "off topic" nature, I wouldn't want to insinuate that you are in possesion of such info but that you may have a friend who does. Ira and I.... (errrrr, I mean our friends) are trying to locate a clear image of a DLV [Deutscher Luftsportverband] logo, Germany used it in the 1930's. I (uhhhh, my friend) want to use it to make into a decal for Udet's Hawk II. The logo looks like it's a swastika (an nice, kind looking swastika) surrounded by some lettering, the whole thing having wings. I hope someone out there can help. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:05:17 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Brandenburg D.I's Message-ID: <19980120.210550.15886.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:36:38 -0500 Hirohisa Ozaki writes: >Sierra kit is vacuform. >I don't know about differences of H.B D.I subtype and don't have FMP's >book. >Appearances of Sierra kit are looked as like Eduard kit. Thanks! That means it's a Type 28. Thanks again, Hiro! Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:12:40 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: Web page Message-ID: <2726eb8b.34c567ab@aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-20 21:24:02 EST, you write: << http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3894/ww1articles.html Plus, all WW1 images are at: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3894/ww1.html >> Hmm... I just tried to get there 3 times only to be told by geocities that there is no such site.I double checked the address, then triple checked.I have to go rest now after killing off all those cookies. Sadly wishing to see the site Robert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:50:46 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: Fabric wrinkles Message-ID: <261d2b9f.34c57099@aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-20 16:33:05 EST, you write: << >One thing I do see is the fuselage wrinkling which I sometimes will try to >duplicate. And what are the ways that this could be done? >> The infamous Gotha Windsock also showed my scratch-Lindberg-Monogram SE 5a hybrid.On this particular model I Dremeled out the valleys and built up the hills with putty, matching the inside to the outside. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:29:24 +1100 From: "michell steel" To: "ww1" Subject: spad 13 colours Message-ID: <199801210741.CAA03431@pease1.sr.unh.edu> I know that the Italians used the Spad 7 during the war but did they use the Spad 13 and if so any great decals out there. This would have to be the later version with the squared off wing tips as I wish to build this aircraft out of the box. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 00:00:18 -0800 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: spad 13 colours Message-ID: <199801210800.AA25925@ednet1.orednet.org> michell steel writes: >I know that the Italians used the Spad 7 during the war but did they use >the Spad 13 and if so any great decals out there. This would have to be the > later version with the squared off wing tips as I wish to build this >aircraft out of the box. The Italian 77a and 91a Squadriglie were equipped with SPAD XIII's prior to the end of the war. I'm pretty sure most, if not all, were of the later variety with the squared wing tips. The only Italian SPAD XIII decals I'm aware of are for Barraca's SPAD XIII - which was included in one of the ESCI 1/72 kits. Americal might have something else available but, after frantic shuffling, I'm unable to locate my Americal list. Cheers and all, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 00:17:18 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: spad 13 colours Message-ID: <08171880665041@KAIEN.COM> The Glencoe SPAD includes decals for Baracca's SPAD XIII regards, Bob Pearson ---------- > From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: spad 13 colours > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 03:09:12 -0500 > > > > michell steel writes: > > >I know that the Italians used the Spad 7 during the war but did they use > >the Spad 13 and if so any great decals out there. This would have to be the > > later version with the squared off wing tips as I wish to build this > >aircraft out of the box. > > The Italian 77a and 91a Squadriglie were equipped with SPAD XIII's > prior to the end of the war. I'm pretty sure most, if not all, > were of the later variety with the squared wing tips. > > The only Italian SPAD XIII decals I'm aware of are for Barraca's > SPAD XIII - which was included in one of the ESCI 1/72 kits. > Americal might have something else available but, after frantic > shuffling, I'm unable to locate my Americal list. > > Cheers and all, > > > -- > Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org > > "This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 02:28:09 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: Re: spad 13 colours Message-ID: <34C5B199.54AF@bellsouth.net> michell steel wrote: > > I know that the Italians used the Spad 7 during the war but did they use > the Spad 13 and if so any great decals out there. This would have to be the > later version with the squared off wing tips as I wish to build this > aircraft out of the box. Michell, Aeromaster has decals for a spad 13 of 91e Sq.IAS, Trieste, Italy Aug 1918. Aeromaster #48-075 spads. Ernest ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:50:38 -0800 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/72 FE-8 Message-ID: <199801210849.AA24400@egate2.citicorp.com> James Gibbons wrote: > > Does anyone know of a company manufacturing (or planning to manufacture) a > 1/72 FE-8 kit? Any medium is acceptable. I seem to rmember reading about > one somewhere but for the life of me I can't remember where. > > James Gibbons I have three listed on my database Aeroclub Injected Announced Only circa 1996 Airframe Vacuform 1981 Scaleplanes Vacuform 1987 None of which I've ever seen around. Regards ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:03:44 -0800 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: One more to make the syndicate Message-ID: <199801210902.AA24694@egate2.citicorp.com> As a follow-up to previous messages, there's just a buyer for 'Aircraft of the 1914-1918 War' needed. For those still uncertain about it's pedigree, and not wishing to over-sell it, below is the text of its contents, copied from a specialist 2nd hand Aviation bookseller. Quote Harborough 1946-1st edition: pp (v) 126. Fully illustrated. Another of the superb early Harleyfords, this one being accepted as the definitive book covering every type of Allied and enemy aircraft which saw service in the Great War, plus an appendix listing over 100 lesser-known experimental aircraft. B&W photographs plus excellent full-page or fold-out 3-view GA drawings. VG+ in slightly worn Nr-VG+ d/w. GBP45.00 Unquote Given the vintage of this book, do not expect the accuracy seen in Datafiles etc. Now, I do not know if the book on offer is the first edition, or if there is a dust jacket. However the price is good at =A322.50 (IMHO) if we can find a buyer. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:48:21 -0800 From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton To: wwi Subject: Photos Message-ID: <34C6DDA5.7DD6@connectorsystems.co.nz> Matt, Thank you very much for the F2A cockpit photos, they will really help in the push to get this thing FINISHED at last. I hope I will be able to return the favour at some stage, please let me know if there is anything you are after. Aidrian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:32:36 -0800 From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton To: wwi Subject: Re: Fabric wrinkles Message-ID: <34C6E804.6208@connectorsystems.co.nz> Joey Valenciano wrote: > > >One thing I do see is the fuselage wrinkling which I sometimes will try to > >duplicate. > > And what are the ways that this could be done? The most succesful effort I have had so far was to use aluminium kitchen foil attached with epoxy resin -use the 24 hour stuff not the 5 minute variety, since this will give you more time to work the winkles in using a couple of round nosed tools -the end of an old paintbrush and a toothpick with the point sanded off works fine. Apply the epoxy to the fuselage side, just a thin smear in the centre of the panel, but a little thicker in the corners. Lay your foil over the glued area - you should cut it a bit over sized and trim it when the glue is dry. While the epoxy is still wet, work in the wrinkles using your round nosed tools. It would possibly improve the appearance if you **gently** gouge a few wrinkly depressions in the fuselage surface before you apply the foil -I didn't last time but wish I had done so. With care and patience the resin will completely fill the gap between the foil and the underlying structure, leaving a genuinely wrinkled fuselage covering. Care is the watchword when working with foil, handled gently it stretches most realistically, but get too keen and it tears. Please make sure that there is no air trapped between the foil and the fuelage by working the outside with a soft cloth, and finish the wrinkly bits with a damp cotton bud worked along the line of the wrinkles. This will help to eliminate any overly sharp edges . Clean up any excess epoxy with detergent and water and leave it alone till the glue goes off. When it is dry, trim the foil to size, and do the other side. It is worth doing a dummy run on an old model or a piece of scrap beforehand HTH Aidrian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:12:46 +1100 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Active & Passive Undersides Message-ID: > >Attention Shane ! ! ! ! Please repost your thesis on this subject for > Oh God, not again. Every time I open my mouth on this subject it starts > a catfight. > >The Foul Imposter (read your archives to see where this is from) > Yerrrs, well that'd be 11 July ;-) I dare say that despite your > intimation on that occasion I now concede you to be a WW1 modeller Siiiigh! I'd hoped you blokes weren't going to get up to any mischief while I was away for the week 80) Mick. -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 04:55:37 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Active & Passive Undersides Message-ID: <19980121.045641.14166.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Wed, 21 Jan 1998 05:12:50 -0500 Mick Fauchon writes: > Siiiigh! I'd hoped you blokes weren't going to get up to any >mischief while I was away for the week 80) That's funny, and - it seems - entirely impossible. :-) Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 04:56:17 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Photos Message-ID: <19980121.045641.14166.2.mbittner@juno.com> Aidrian, >Thank you very much for the F2A cockpit photos, they will really help >in the push to get this thing FINISHED at last. Glad to have helped. What good is all this reference material if it just gathers dust. :-) >I hope I will be able to return the favour at some stage, please let >me know if there is anything you are after. Will do! Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 04:52:25 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Web page Message-ID: <19980121.045641.14166.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:43:56 -0500 KarrArt writes: ><< http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3894/ww1articles.html > > Plus, all WW1 images are at: > > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3894/ww1.html > > >> >Hmm... I just tried to get there 3 times only to be told by geocities >that >there is no such site.I double checked the address, then triple >checked.I have >to go rest now after killing off all those cookies. >Sadly wishing to see the site Hmm... Let's see if this works again: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3894 is the main page http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3894/ww1.html is the "gallery" http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3894/ww1articles.html is the page with the articles on it. If that doesn't work, I'm stumped. Matt Bittner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 857 *********************