WWI Digest 826 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) new years greeting from a new guy by Ernest Thomas 2) Re: new years greeting from a new guy by KarrArt 3) Re: Moran Saulnier Type H kit: by Joey Valenciano 4) Re: Re: New Thread/WWI Calendars by Jim Alley 5) Happy New Year by mbittner@juno.com 6) Re: Happy 98 guys by Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton 7) Re: Happy New Year by KarrArt 8) Re: Happy New Year by huggins@onramp.net (John Huggins) 9) Happy New Year by Bill Bacon 10) More New Year Wishes by Geoff Smith 11) Re: More New Year Wishes by KarrArt 12) an indulgence? by KarrArt 13) Re: an indulgence? by huggins@onramp.net (John Huggins) 14) Re: More New Year Wishes by Bob Pearson 15) Re: an indulgence? by Bob Pearson 16) HAPPY NEW YEAR ! ! ! by Bob Pearson 17) Re: an indulgence? by John & Allison Cyganowski 18) Re: an indulgence? by Joey Valenciano 19) Re: Fokker DII colors by "Erik" 20) [Fwd: Vac-forms] by Ernest Thomas 21) Re: Attn. Markings Sleuths! by mbittner@juno.com 22) Re: WWI Fighter Bombers by mbittner@juno.com 23) Re: Fokker DII colors by mbittner@juno.com 24) Re: Fokker DII colors by "Charles Duckworth" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 19:05:55 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi Subject: new years greeting from a new guy Message-ID: <34AAEBF3.CB0@bellsouth.net> Just signed one 2 nights ago but look forward to meeting everybody in the year to come. Happy New Year from a new guy on the list. Ernest Thomas aka; Polly Styrene ethomas6@bellsouth.net "Thinking is man's only basic virtue, from which all others proceed." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 20:49:04 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: new years greeting from a new guy Message-ID: In a message dated 97-12-31 20:11:34 EST, you write: << Just signed one 2 nights ago but look forward to meeting everybody in the year to come. Happy New Year from a new guy on the list. Ernest Thomas >> A great big howdy- I've been on the list for a couple of months and already these strange people have grown on me- may you also find this true! Welcome Robert Karr ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 09:57:57 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: Moran Saulnier Type H kit: Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980101095757.006b8b70@philonline.com.ph> At 04:48 PM 12/31/97 -0500, you wrote: >Greetings, gents! I thought some of you might be interested, and >especially in light of the recent discussion of the Temske/ Francesco >Morane Saulnier Type I/N kit in 1/72, to know that APC Hobbies, out of >Earlysville, VA, have the following listed in their most recent update: >"Russian Co (injected) > 1/72 Morane Saulnier Type I/N $6.00 > 1/48 Morane Saulnier Type H $9.00" > Now, I think we all know that the Type I is the much discussed Temske >offering, but is anybody familar with a 1/48 Type H kit? I think Francesco also had an add in Fine Scale for this kit sometime back. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 21:10:06 EST From: Jim Alley To: wwi Subject: Re: Re: New Thread/WWI Calendars Message-ID: >As far as a calendar goes, I know it may be a little late for this year, >but what about making our own for next year? There are several >artists on our list who have great profiles, and I know that a copy >service (such as Kinko's) will make calendars for a price. What >about a list collaboration to turn out one for 1999? We still might >be able to get 1998, too. Any inputs or volunteers? > >Paul A. Schwartzkopf I'd be happy to donate anything of mine which might be felt worthy. Jim Alley ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 20:01:24 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Happy New Year Message-ID: <19971231.202827.13214.0.mbittner@juno.com> In regards to the other wishes, I would like to wish everyone a Happy New Year. Sure hope I build more than two models in 1998 like I did in 1997. And only one of those was WW1! Don't worry, my penance is coming up. :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 15:34:37 -0800 From: Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton To: wwi Subject: Re: Happy 98 guys Message-ID: <34AC280D.A58@connectorsystems.co.nz> Pedro Nuno Soares wrote: > > Hi gang > > It's 23.30 around here and I'm raising my glass to you all. > > Thanks for sharing it all. > > Happy 98 > > Um enorme abraco > > Pedro And Feliz Ano Novo to yourself, and everybody else. NZ first again into the New Year:-) Aidrian Chch NZ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 22:30:36 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: Happy New Year Message-ID: <31f233b8.34ab0dde@aol.com> In a message dated 97-12-31 21:32:13 EST, you write: << Sure hope I build more than two models in 1998 like I did in 1997. And only one of those was WW1! Don't worry, my penance is coming up. :-) Matt Bittner >> Amen to that.I finished the Nieuport 28 diorama (I was working on that this time last year) but other than that- a big fat zero as far as WWI modeling goes.Lots of dreams and fantasys and planning though.I DID finish several paintings but no WW I. In 1998 I swear I'm gonna get around to that scratch HP 0/400 in 1/48th(sorry Matt!) One Bottle OF Champagne over the line in California Robert (and it's only 7:30 P.M. here) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 22:47:08 -0600 (CST) From: huggins@onramp.net (John Huggins) To: wwi Subject: Re: Happy New Year Message-ID: I would like to take this time to wish each and every one of you a Happy New Year. It has been a pleasure talking with you folks this past year and I look forward to the comming year, I have printed the next batch of List Buttons and will be mailing them to all who have requested them within the next 7 days. If any of the real new list members who have not sent me their address would do so in the next few days, I will send you a button also. Best wishef for a productive year of wonderfull modeling. John & Pat. Disclaimer: Any errors in spelling, tact, or fact are transmission errors. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 23:07:05 -0600 From: Bill Bacon To: WWI Aero Modelers Subject: Happy New Year Message-ID: <34AB2479.CD3F971D@netjava.net> May I add my wishes for a Happy, Peaceful and rewarding New Year to all of you. Life would be most dull without you. As with all of you, when the goes down, it is panicsville. May the next year be even better. Cheers, Bill B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 00:15:02 -0500 From: Geoff Smith To: WWI List Subject: More New Year Wishes Message-ID: <199801010015_MC2-2DA9-15C@compuserve.com> Hi Guys, Happy New Year to All a bit late 'cos it's 5 am. May you all get to do wh= at you most want to do. Geoff nl: " Cum on feel the noise" -Slade (No, I'm not joking) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 00:35:58 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: Re: More New Year Wishes Message-ID: <23c0c507.34ab2b40@aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-01 00:19:20 EST, you write: << nl: " Cum on feel the noise" -Slade (No, I'm not joking) >> Noddy- is that you? Robert(tripping over cheap Champagne empties) nl:"troutmask Replica" Captain Beefheart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 02:20:18 EST From: KarrArt To: wwi Subject: an indulgence? Message-ID: <129b1ddd.34ab43b4@aol.com> Oh heck- may I ask you all to humor me and go take a look at my web page?The wife, who maintains the site, has done something bizarre to the front page(in honor of the new year)- please humor me.Be sure and click where it says "click".She's a strange person! http://members.aol.com/karrart/ Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 04:43:41 -0600 (CST) From: huggins@onramp.net (John Huggins) To: wwi Subject: Re: an indulgence? Message-ID: Be sure and click where it says >"click".She's a strange person! >http://members.aol.com/karrart/ > Robert Thanks for the welcome to the new year. Disclaimer: Any errors in spelling, tact, or fact are transmission errors. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 05:45:58 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: More New Year Wishes Message-ID: <13455835913227@KAIEN.COM> Geoff, at least it isn't the Quiet Riot cover version :-) ---------- > From: Geoff Smith > nl: " Cum on feel the noise" -Slade (No, I'm not joking) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 05:47:31 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: Re: an indulgence? Message-ID: <13473177313228@KAIEN.COM> Cool, but as a vocalist you are now out of the List band, sorry. Bob ---------- > From: KarrArt > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: an indulgence? > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 02:24:12 -0500 > > Oh heck- may I ask you all to humor me and go take a look at my web page?The > wife, who maintains the site, has done something bizarre to the front page(in > honor of the new year)- please humor me.Be sure and click where it says > "click".She's a strange person! > http://members.aol.com/karrart/ > > Robert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 05:53:46 -0800 From: Bob Pearson To: WW1 Mailing list Subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR ! ! ! Message-ID: <13534699313229@KAIEN.COM> Greetings All, It is now 6am, so I apologize for being late in my New Year wishes to all, but I just got in the door after our band played a big NYE dance and afterwards we had a musicians get-together for a few hours - I think I will pass on the annual Polar Bear Swim in the ocean at noon today though. I would like to thank all of you for your friendship and indulgence over the past eight months, and I look forward to putting faces (and voices) to names at the OTF seminar in PHONIX (correct spelling) next year. Regards, Bob Pearson nl : the pounding in my head (does anyone have an aspirin?) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 08:48:49 -0500 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: wwi Subject: Re: an indulgence? Message-ID: <34AB9EC1.4C88@worldnet.att.net> KarrArt wrote: > > Oh heck- may I ask you all to humor me and go take a look at my web page?The > wife, who maintains the site, has done something bizarre to the front page(in > honor of the new year)- please humor me.Be sure and click where it says > "click".She's a strange person! > http://members.aol.com/karrart/ > > Robert And obviously talanted! Bon Ainee! John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 22:56:01 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi Subject: Re: an indulgence? Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980101225601.006c0454@philonline.com.ph> Hi Robert, >Oh heck- may I ask you all to humor me and go take a look at my web page? Being a musician, I am very sound oriented. Robert, seeing your photo on the webpage, I knew you sounded like that. I especially liked that added dynamic (volume) stress at the end. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 10:28:24 +0000 From: "Erik" To: wwi Subject: Re: Fokker DII colors Message-ID: <199801011827.KAA16508@glinda.oz.net> On 31 Dec 97, Charles Duckworth heroically postulated: > In looking through Ray Rimmel's Arms and Armor Press book there are > a couple of air to air shots (pix 52, 53 and 54) of a Fokker DII in a three > color > camouflage scheme, is this assumed to be green/brown and CDL? > Comparing the photo to other images, and taking into consideration the time-frame in which the machine appeared, I wonder if it might well be finished in the the Olive\Brick-Red\Pea-Green scheme as seen on D.III Albatros fighters. Stair and Grey suggest Olive/Brown in "Fokker Fighters of WWI", but I've always preferred the 'brick-ish' interpretation of the color to 'Chestnut'. Cheers, Erik ------------------------------------------------- "It is because Nations tend to stupidity and baseness that mankind moves so slowly; it is because individuals have a capacity for better things that it moves at all." G.R. Gissing ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 18:24:09 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: multiple recipients of list Subject: [Fwd: Vac-forms] Message-ID: <34AC33A9.62FE@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <34AC1E5E.584B@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 16:53:18 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas Reply-To: ethomas6@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-BLS20 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multiple recipients of list <"wwi"@pease1.sr.unh.edu,> Subject: Vac-forms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ho Everybody, My name is Ernest and I'm a brand new subscriber to the list. I've been moedling for over 25 years(since I was 5-even through the teenage years when most of us get distracted by girls). I've always been partial to WWI and bi-planes but there was so few kits available in 1/48 for so long. That's changed recently with the few DLM offerings and now with all the Eduard kits I've been able to focus on my primary interest in aviation. But I guess that's the same story a lot of us have. So now I'm starting on my very first ever Vac-form kit. It's the 1/48 Albatross DIII from Tom's modelworks. Anybody out there want to share some advice or tips on building vacs. in general or this model in particular. I've only cut out the fuselage halves so far, so I still have a long way to go. Any advice would be most appreciated. Also, anybody out made it to the IPMS Nationals in Columbus OH. this past summer? I entered two DML fokkers in absentia but I didn't win anything. Que sara! But I heard there was 37 entries in the 1/48 bi-plane catagory. I would have loved to have seen them in person and my friends who took my models up there didn't take much notice of what I was competeing against. Can someone get back to me and tell me what the field looked like? For those who were there, my entries were the DML Fokker D-VII(Udet w/lozenge on upper & lower wings) and the DML DrI. done in the Waldo Pepper Black & Yellow checkerboard scheme. Thanks. Ernest Thomas aka: Polly Styrene ethomas6@bellsouth.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 18:25:04 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Attn. Markings Sleuths! Message-ID: <19980101.182538.4278.5.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 30 Dec 1997 08:47:03 -0500 John & Allison Cyganowski writes: >I have heard a dirty rumor, that you might be, uh - you know, like >bi-scaler? Any truth to this? Nope. Not me. I'll deny it, if it was true. (What?! You mean there are pictures? Nope, must have been another "Matt Bittner", poor soul.) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 18:14:06 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI Fighter Bombers Message-ID: <19980101.182538.4278.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 30 Dec 1997 21:13:44 -0500 DavidL1217 writes: > My understanding that the Le Preir (sp?) rockets were used on > Nieuport 11's, N.16's and Pups in very limited numbers. Did > anybody else use rockets on the Western Front? The following have feature article's on the Le Prieur rockets: OtF, Vol 2 No 2 and Vol 4 No 1 I believe there was also an article on a Windsock, but I can't seem to find it in my database. HTH Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 18:08:39 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Fokker DII colors Message-ID: <19980101.182538.4278.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Wed, 31 Dec 1997 13:01:58 -0500 "Charles Duckworth" writes: >In looking through Ray Rimmel's Arms and Armor Press book there are >a couple of air to air shots (pix 52, 53 and 54) of a Fokker DII in a >three color camouflage scheme, is this assumed to be green/brown and CDL? Just as an FYI, here are some sources I show for Fokker D.II's. Sorry it took so long to type this in, but I installed the latest version of my development environment, and it seemed to throw everything off, including the "pointers" to my periodical database. Rimell's _German Army Air Service in WW1_ Vintage Warbirds No. 2 Windsock, Vol 7 No 1 Gray's _Fokker Fighters of WW1_ The Windsock article is the best one. I can't remember the details, but there is either a Datafile Special, or that new series that was launched by the Halberstadt book coming from Rimell. HTH Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 19:00:29 -0800 From: "Charles Duckworth" To: Subject: Re: Fokker DII colors Message-ID: <199801020059.SAA06690@mail.primary.net> Matt: Thanks for the information - when I was looking through the Windsock Volume 7 No. 1 with the D.I - D.IV I also thought it would be a nice followup in the same format as his Halberstadt Special. Charlie nb: 1/48th Pyro/Inpact AVRO Biplane 1911 (Type D) - spent this morning before wife and kids got up rigging with .006 fishing line - excellent strart for bringing in the new year! ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 826 *********************